I can understand different manufactures wanting to put there own little spin on android for there devices to distingush them from others. But why can't I, If I choose to, just install whatever is the latest stock version of Android on my device?
Is Android so fragmented that there is no way for Google to release a standerd version of the OS that we can install and have whatever drivers we need downloaded/pushed to the device so that it will just work?
Just wondering
android is a system built to run on many different processors and other hardware specs and because it is a mobile os it would take up tonnes of space to include all the drivers for every hardware.
there for manufactures have to build their own kernel and drivers run the android virtual machine on top of that
and manufactures for some reason like to put their own spin on it to try and differentiate from other manufactures. as Andy Rubin said its a feature that android can look so different and the apps still work
and androids not that fragmented any more most of the devices are running 2.x
so basically you cant just install android because it is built to be device specific.
if you want you can hope a cyanogen mod is made for your device thats the closest you will get to stock
hope that helps
Maybe this has been answered in the past and in this case I apologise.
I have a few questions, because there are quite a lot of busybox (BB) versions available to install. What I am asking is, does it matter which version you choose in terms of system performance, compatibility and system stability or other factors?
For example: Currently I'm using Redux2 TEST ROM (I have a rooted S-OFF device) which by default uses 1.16.2 BB version. To my knowledge this version is quite old in contrast to the ROM itself, which is GB 2.3.5.
To my confusion also contribute conflicting information about this topic. Some say if everything works, leave it alone, other recommend the latest stable version. To my knowledge there are 2 apps intended solely to the BB installation. So, by advice of the app I moved to the latest stable BB version - 1.18.5, installed successfully, but then my system refused to reboot and I had to perform a NAND restore.
The other app listed the latest BB version as 1.19.1 but according to author of the previous mentioned app this version is unstable, but I do not have any problems with it.
To a degree, I learned to solve such problems by trial and error, but especially in this case I'm left confused and without reliable answers.
Thank you for your help.
For example: Currently I'm using Redux2 TEST ROM (I have a rooted S-OFF device) which by default uses 1.16.2 BB version. To my knowledge this version is quite old in contrast to the ROM itself, which is GB 2.3.5.
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Well you compare busybox version to android version?? Seems odd considering they have nothing in common what so ever.
Busybox is simply a linux script/tool containing a bunch of mainstream commands allowing for simple commandline actions. Usually those are only accessed by the system and some root apps, so in general i'd recommend to keep the one bundled with your rom since that's the one it's meant to use. Some apps like titanium backup might require a newer one though.
So if it works, keep it if some app require a newer one, try it out but backup first
Helpful info
Thank you for your answer.
After all this comparison without sense turned out to be useful after all
Now I learned something new, and you gave me an excelent example.
But try to in my shoes for a minute. By profession I'm a physician and I have been trained to do my job with competence. If someone does not know something I try to pass on my knowledge. That is all I can do.
In contrast, about Android or Linux I know almost nothing (only so much, what I had to learn alone, to have a phone, which is functional and uses all of its capabilities).
So for the end I can only say thank you for your advice.
Hello XDA!
I recently traded my iPhone 4S about 2.5 weeks ago. I am in love with the Samsung Galaxy SIII. I love the sleek style and touchwiz is much more active and more "fun" than iOS. I love the google integration and all the cool features out of the box.
Since I'm new to android I'm really overwhelmed in the amount of information available to "modify or root."
I was a constant jailbreaker and had over 50-100 tweaks/jailbroken apps. I would like to get the same functionality on the SIII.
I wasn't afraid of jailbreaking and it was a one-button press jailbreak.
With android there are so many different versions and terminology to jailbreak and so many instructions and updates and in general just a lot of stuff.
About my new phone:
- Samsung Galaxy SIII
- AT&T
- 8GB miroSD card
- Model: SAMSUNG-SGH-1747
- Android Version: 4.0.4
- Baseband Version: 1747UCLH9
- Kernel version: (IS THIS CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION?)
- I have installed a couple of root apps that I didn't know where root apps and so they don't work obviously.
- Ones I installed: Lucky Patcher, Titanium Backup
- It's not rooted yet I haven't modified it at all besides themes and settings
The reason why I'm posting:
- Can anyone please tell me EXACTLY which updated guides I need to follow for my specific device?
- How can I backup my device? I'd like to keep all the apps (and app data), contacts, everything if possible.
- I read as much as possible but I'm still not sure which guide to follow and which steps I need to take as some are dated and not recent. I'm scared I'll mess up my phone what are the chances of messing up my IMEI, bricking, bad stuff happening.
- Anything else I should know?
- What are some popular ROMS I can install on my phone that are supported (preferrably with JB)?
- Can I always go back to my original settings and apps like a restore but with a backup?
- Once I root what BLOATWARE can I UNINSTALL on my AT&T SIII? How do I do this as well?
Thank you for your patience, I am definitely going to stick with Android (stock iOS sucks balls and android is so much more aesthetically pleasing) I just want to make sure I'm doing everything right and that there is a proper way to do this.
Bronos said:
Hello XDA!
I recently traded my iPhone 4S about 2.5 weeks ago. I am in love with the Samsung Galaxy SIII. I love the sleek style and touchwiz is much more active and more "fun" than iOS. I love the google integration and all the cool features out of the box.
Since I'm new to android I'm really overwhelmed in the amount of information available to "modify or root."
I was a constant jailbreaker and had over 50-100 tweaks/jailbroken apps. I would like to get the same functionality on the SIII.
I wasn't afraid of jailbreaking and it was a one-button press jailbreak.
With android there are so many different versions and terminology to jailbreak and so many instructions and updates and in general just a lot of stuff.
About my new phone:
- Samsung Galaxy SIII
- AT&T
- 8GB miroSD card
- Model: SAMSUNG-SGH-1747
- Android Version: 4.0.4
- Baseband Version: 1747UCLH9
- Kernel version: (IS THIS CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION?)
- I have installed a couple of root apps that I didn't know where root apps and so they don't work obviously.
- Ones I installed: Lucky Patcher, Titanium Backup
- It's not rooted yet I haven't modified it at all besides themes and settings
The reason why I'm posting:
- Can anyone please tell me EXACTLY which updated guides I need to follow for my specific device?
- How can I backup my device? I'd like to keep all the apps (and app data), contacts, everything if possible.
- I read as much as possible but I'm still not sure which guide to follow and which steps I need to take as some are dated and not recent. I'm scared I'll mess up my phone what are the chances of messing up my IMEI, bricking, bad stuff happening.
- Anything else I should know?
- What are some popular ROMS I can install on my phone that are supported (preferrably with JB)?
- Can I always go back to my original settings and apps like a restore but with a backup?
- Once I root what BLOATWARE can I UNINSTALL on my AT&T SIII? How do I do this as well?
Thank you for your patience, I am definitely going to stick with Android (stock iOS sucks balls and android is so much more aesthetically pleasing) I just want to make sure I'm doing everything right and that there is a proper way to do this.
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hey there welcome to XDA and more importantly to the world of android.
first off rooting can be relatively simple depending on the method you use. ive rooted mine twice using odin. i just followed the video here ON Galaxys3root . com all the things you need are in the description.
rooting your phone using this process will not wipe any data, contacts, pics, etc.
once you complete the root process and get rom manager installed it will allow you to make a back up of the current system with all your data like texts phone call logs etc.
the most popular roms are aokp based and cyanogen based roms. ( just look at threads with [ROM] before it ) roms are personal preference. if you flash a cyanogen based rom you will not have the features of touchwiz. stock based roms are always good too right not im just running stock i747uclh9 rooted.
going back to your original rom is simple all you do is boot to recovery (rom manager) and do a restore. before restoring you should wipe data, cache partition and dalvik cache. (dalvik is under the advanced menu.
removing bloatware just use no bloat free this will let you remove and also create a back up of all apps incase you have an issue.
for right now i personally just use ics based roms if you want to stick to stock since there has not been an att jb leak. however if you want jb i recommend cyanogen nighties basic jelly bean roms never had an issue personally.
if you have any more questions feel free to PM me.
IF THIS POST HELP YOU IN ANYWAY PLEASE CLICK THANKS
aboveusonlysky said:
hey there welcome to XDA and more importantly to the world of android.
first off rooting can be relatively simple depending on the method you use. ive rooted mine twice using odin. i just followed the video here ON Galaxys3root . com all the things you need are in the description.
rooting your phone using this process will not wipe any data, contacts, pics, etc.
once you complete the root process and get rom manager installed it will allow you to make a back up of the current system with all your data like texts phone call logs etc.
the most popular roms are aokp based and cyanogen based roms. ( just look at threads with [ROM] before it ) roms are personal preference. if you flash a cyanogen based rom you will not have the features of touchwiz. stock based roms are always good too right not im just running stock i747uclh9 rooted.
going back to your original rom is simple all you do is boot to recovery (rom manager) and do a restore. before restoring you should wipe data, cache partition and dalvik cache. (dalvik is under the advanced menu.
removing bloatware just use no bloat free this will let you remove and also create a back up of all apps incase you have an issue.
for right now i personally just use ics based roms if you want to stick to stock since there has not been an att jb leak. however if you want jb i recommend cyanogen nighties basic jelly bean roms never had an issue personally.
if you have any more questions feel free to PM me.
IF THIS POST HELP YOU IN ANYWAY PLEASE CLICK THANKS
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will this Jellybean ROM work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1869300
Do you know if it has a lot of problems?
EDIT: Also does the root method at this website still work for my version which is UCLH9?
http://galaxys3root.com/galaxy-s3-r...gh-t999sgh-i747sph-l710-fail-proofnoob-proof/
Bronos said:
will this Jellybean ROM work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1869300
Do you know if it has a lot of problems?
EDIT: Also does the root method at this website still work for my version which is UCLH9?
http://galaxys3root.com/galaxy-s3-r...gh-t999sgh-i747sph-l710-fail-proofnoob-proof/
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Hello, welcome to the android side of the world! Glad you decided to switch over! first things first, in order to root all you need to do is flash a root able kernel via Odin. Tutorial for this method can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426 Second, I would not recommend that rom as I just came from it and while it is very stable for a leak it is still quite buggy as it is built from a sprint leak. If you are that anxious to have a jellybean I recommend using aokp by task650 in the original development forum, however this will take away all of the touchwiz things that you said you liked so much. I am currently running kyanrom which I have used before and find myself returning to quite frequently because it is originally bone dry and he has whatever files you would like to add back you can add them through flashing zips. I am assuming you are wanting jellybean primarily for the Google now feature? If you will go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1823194 it is a thread by me on how to replace s voice with Google now and as far as I can tell it seems to be working just as well as with jellybean!
Lastly, have a bunny!
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This is a little advice that has helped me and some friends of mine that have came from iPhone. Don't root and rom unless you absolutely have to or willing to pay the price to learn the ends and outs of it. Stock Android or in our case touchwized android can provide a complete satisfactory experience alone without rooting. But some tweaks and mods require root and if that can be bundled in a single rom then great. But if you have jail broken before or ever have to restore an iPhone firmware then rooting will be relatively easy, it's just learning how to self troubleshoot when something goes wrong.
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Take a look at this post for rooting LH9:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32218479
The method is mrRobinson's thread (the one mentioned in a previous post) requires downgrading to an older stock version (LG1) so you would need to upgrade again after doing that. Also, people have reported problems downgrading from LH9 to LG1 without doing a factory reset.
Edit: The method in the post I referenced is roughly the same as the one from the galaxysroot site the OP mentioned.
Make sure when you root your device, that the files are for your current build, android version, carrier and etc. If one thing is out of place you can possibly brick your phone. I'm still learning myself. The most important thing is make sure that you read everything 3 times. Make a check list. It helps.
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Bronos said:
will this Jellybean ROM work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1869300
Do you know if it has a lot of problems?
EDIT: Also does the root method at this website still work for my version which is UCLH9?
http://galaxys3root.com/galaxy-s3-r...gh-t999sgh-i747sph-l710-fail-proofnoob-proof/
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The best jellybean rom I think is ParanoidAndroid. It's CyanogenMod 10 based. CM10 is short hand.
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Hey guys when i switched to CWM recovvery and selected backup to external sdcard it said 'android.secure' couldn't be found skip backup of applications.
So it did not backup my app data, what should I do?
Titanium Backup. Make friends with it. In my opinion a must have for any Android device. For backing up everything you'd need when trying out roms to freezing/deleting (be careful with the latter) 'bloatware' (carrier nonsense) it will be a necessity. And life saver.
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hompsar said:
Titanium Backup. Make friends with it. In my opinion a must have for any Android device. For backing up everything you'd need when trying out roms to freezing/deleting (be careful with the latter) 'bloatware' (carrier nonsense) it will be a necessity. And life saver.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using xda premium
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I couldn't agree with this more. TB is an amazing piece of software and a real lifesaver. Also, since we have external sd cards, make sure to change the settings in TB so your backups are saved on it (if you save it to your internal storage your backup might get wiped during a session of flashing another ROM). If you purchase TB Pro, it includes an option to save your backup to Dropbox (it's well-worth the money and supports the developer too).
OP, I was a longtime iPhone user (I've still got the 4S in a drawer) and I always jailbroke too. Android can be confusing at first, because the terminology is different and just because it's a different operating system. But if you read (and read and read as someone suggested earlier), you'll get the hang of it. Once you do, you'll realize how much easier it is to root and play than it ever was with jailbreaking an iPhone. Another plus...you aren't in constant fear of losing your jailbreak (or root, in this case) because of an update. :good:
You think you know, but you have no idea...
First things first...
Did you understand what you were really doing when you were jailbreaking your iPhone?
What was going on in the background, how the jailbreak was working, what was involved in the jailbreak process or even what the different types of jailbreaks were e.g. userland vs. bootloader (hardware level) exploits [are you familiar with the term "exploit"].
If you think what I am talking about is confusing and if you weren't aware of these things, you might want to avoid rooting and/or flashing custom ROMs.
Android as a platform is much more open than iOS, so lots of features and functions don't require rooting or flashing custom ROMs.
Before I purchased my GS3, I was a die hard iPhone owner, year after year since the first iPhone (with the exception of the recently released 6th gen iPhone and a few diviations here and there to blackberry and old Android phones).
Before I even considered messing with my Galaxy, I read, read some more, and then a little bit more. Regardless of all the reading I did, I had a moderate level of understanding of what I was doing and how my actions were affecting my phone.
All the advice in the world won't save you from bricking your phone if you don't have a general understanding of what these tools are doing to your phone.
In the iOS jailbreak community, the developers behind the tools leverage Apple's fall-back restore features to nearly eliminate the possibility of bricking your phone. But that is also inherent to the platform since there aren't custom ROMs available to install to an iPhone (for many reasons).
To summarize,
It sounds like you need to learn a little more about the world you've been playing in previously before you start playing in the Android world.
Bronos said:
Hello XDA!
I recently traded my iPhone 4S about 2.5 weeks ago. I am in love with the Samsung Galaxy SIII. I love the sleek style and touchwiz is much more active and more "fun" than iOS. I love the google integration and all the cool features out of the box.
Since I'm new to android I'm really overwhelmed in the amount of information available to "modify or root."
I was a constant jailbreaker and had over 50-100 tweaks/jailbroken apps. I would like to get the same functionality on the SIII.
I wasn't afraid of jailbreaking and it was a one-button press jailbreak.
With android there are so many different versions and terminology to jailbreak and so many instructions and updates and in general just a lot of stuff.
About my new phone:
- Samsung Galaxy SIII
- AT&T
- 8GB miroSD card
- Model: SAMSUNG-SGH-1747
- Android Version: 4.0.4
- Baseband Version: 1747UCLH9
- Kernel version: (IS THIS CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION?)
- I have installed a couple of root apps that I didn't know where root apps and so they don't work obviously.
- Ones I installed: Lucky Patcher, Titanium Backup
- It's not rooted yet I haven't modified it at all besides themes and settings
The reason why I'm posting:
- Can anyone please tell me EXACTLY which updated guides I need to follow for my specific device?
- How can I backup my device? I'd like to keep all the apps (and app data), contacts, everything if possible.
- I read as much as possible but I'm still not sure which guide to follow and which steps I need to take as some are dated and not recent. I'm scared I'll mess up my phone what are the chances of messing up my IMEI, bricking, bad stuff happening.
- Anything else I should know?
- What are some popular ROMS I can install on my phone that are supported (preferrably with JB)?
- Can I always go back to my original settings and apps like a restore but with a backup?
- Once I root what BLOATWARE can I UNINSTALL on my AT&T SIII? How do I do this as well?
Thank you for your patience, I am definitely going to stick with Android (stock iOS sucks balls and android is so much more aesthetically pleasing) I just want to make sure I'm doing everything right and that there is a proper way to do this.
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www.galaxys3root.com <---- This is the website you need, just click on the Galaxy S3 FAQ and look under your model for all the information.
mathewrice said:
First things first...
Did you understand what you were really doing when you were jailbreaking your iPhone?
What was going on in the background, how the jailbreak was working, what was involved in the jailbreak process or even what the different types of jailbreaks were e.g. userland vs. bootloader (hardware level) exploits [are you familiar with the term "exploit"].
If you think what I am talking about is confusing and if you weren't aware of these things, you might want to avoid rooting and/or flashing custom ROMs.
Android as a platform is much more open than iOS, so lots of features and functions don't require rooting or flashing custom ROMs.
Before I purchased my GS3, I was a die hard iPhone owner, year after year since the first iPhone (with the exception of the recently released 6th gen iPhone and a few diviations here and there to blackberry and old Android phones).
Before I even considered messing with my Galaxy, I read, read some more, and then a little bit more. Regardless of all the reading I did, I had a moderate level of understanding of what I was doing and how my actions were affecting my phone.
All the advice in the world won't save you from bricking your phone if you don't have a general understanding of what these tools are doing to your phone.
In the iOS jailbreak community, the developers behind the tools leverage Apple's fall-back restore features to nearly eliminate the possibility of bricking your phone. But that is also inherent to the platform since there aren't custom ROMs available to install to an iPhone (for many reasons).
To summarize,
It sounds like you need to learn a little more about the world you've been playing in previously before you start playing in the Android world.
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Hey man thanks for the advice!
I figured it out eventually. I just had to read and actually try Rooting. I now know most of the terminology of android. It's pretty straightforward. Of course there are some errors. But seriously Android is absolutely unbelievable (especially 4.1.1 and JB) have features I could only dream of getting supported on the iPhone.
If I do get errors there is usually a fix or something I can look up on how to avoid it. If a day comes when I do brick I should be alright if I do brick AT&T should be able to replace it for me. I've been a loyal customer to them and my family included.
I highly recommend this guide to rooting. I used it just a few days ago and it worked perfectly.
I tried AOKP and CM10 but have actually settled on this stock ROM for now. I like being able to maintain the 'motion' features which aren't standard on the others. Google Wallet works well too which is a big plus for me. There should be an update in the next 24 hours to "Milestone 5".
That'd the same one I'm using.
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Titanium Backup
Spend those dollars on this App its worth every penny. Read all the FAQs under the links others already gave you.
Hi. I'm not very well versed in Android. I got a Galaxy Tab 3 7.0 for free as a promo from my bank a year or so ago. I've always been frustrated that there was no multi-user support. A year ago I tried correcting that by upgrading to 4.2.2 which required rooting because there was no official upgrade at the time. I thought that would fix it, but it didn't. I recently revisited my problem and found a guide suggesting to install Xposed Installer's Multi Users module and I did that but the module again tells me to simply go to Settings->Users (if that setting were there, I'm not sure why you need the Xposed thing, but anyway). It still isn't there.
I don't know if its because I have a bank promo model or what, but I don't have the option and all the guides seem to suggest 4.2+ simply DOES have it. Well mine doesn't.
Is this something that a custom ROM would fix? If so, is there a Absolute Moron's Guide to Custom ROMs out there for this device?
Thanks for any insight.
Edit: I guess some specs might be useful, as I see there are different model numbers associated with "Tab 3 7.0". The model number is SM-T210R. Android version 4.2.2 (rooted). Kernel is 3.4.5-blackhawk+
Nevermind.
For some reason my unit wasn't receiving the 4.4 update. I manually updated to 4.4 and I now have the Users menu.
Hello,
I won a Nexus 7 at auction and didn't realise how old it was, it has a cracked screen so changing the screen. Hardware I can do and have done for many years however having a look at things like roms is leaving me a bit confused. As far as I know it has the stock android that came with it.
What would I need to install to bring it up to the latest version? When I say latest I mean what is the newest version of whatever rom( I think they are called) that will give me an up to date working tablet rather than one using android from many moons ago.
Thank you for any help
You would need to install TWRP to flash custom roms and i think u should take a look at the Unlegacy rom
Would one of the builds on this page be suitable? - https://builds.unlegacy-android.org/aosp-8.1/flo/
Once I install it am I still able to use the Play store etc? I have several paid for games and apps I would like to use.
Thanks