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Hi All,
After being a iPhone fan since they first launched, I am getting my first android phone tomorrow. The price of the iPhone 4 put me off purchasing one and to be honest iOS is rubbish without a jailbreak to set it free.
So tomorrow i'll be getting the HTC Desire via Orange. I have some questions if that's ok.
1) Since it's Orange giving me the phone, is it likely that it'll have some kind of horrendous customized Orange ROM on it like they used to do with all of their phones ? If so, how do I get rid of it and put on a standard Desire ROM ?
2) Assuming it does have just a standard Desire ROM, is it best to flash to one of the customized ROM's ?
3) Can I use my Desire as a wifi router via some software ? (MyWi and PDAnet on iPhone)
4) I've been reading about "rooting"....is that the equivalent of jailbreaking? What benefits does it have ? On an iPhone it is of course essential so that you can install Apps which apple don't approve of (amongst other things).
Thank you
I'm sure i'll have 100's more questions when I actually get it but that'll do for now. haha
1) Mild branding, Bot screen, some game demos I belive, and a frew orange apps.
2) Can't help you there
3) I don't belive you can untill Android 2.2 FroYo.
4) Can't help you here either
ok basically the guy above was of no help whatsoever..
1) the orange roms that first came out were packed with orange branding and apps and widgets which would take up space even on the home screens, with the new releases this has been greatly reduced. yes, you can simply flash a generic rom by HTC or one of the custom ones posted in these forums.
2) if it's from orange it wont have a standard htc rom, it is personal preference as to which rom you choose to install as some will have certain features which are more appealing to you. once you are rooted you can just sample around until you find one you like.
3) although this is confirmed to come out with the froyo 2.2 release, it is available on these forums, it comes with most customized roms, and in fact i believe it is even available in the android market.
4) rooting simply allows you to install roms which would usually be locked by your phone, this means that you can flash your phone with literally anything you want (at your own risk ) this also means that as well as roms, certain apps can use this root access in order to provide more features
1. I don't know. (I have no branding)
2. The default is good while IMHO the customised 2.1 roms are better.
3. A custom or rooted rom can have wifi tethering. (I use Oclocks rooted 1.21.405.2 rom)
4. I have never had an Iphone. But I think it's kinda the same. Rooting sets your android phone free (or in the desires case, A little more free) you will be able to install custom roms. New themes. Root only apps + more I can't remember.
I hope that helped
dayloon said:
4) I've been reading about "rooting"....is that the equivalent of jailbreaking? What benefits does it have ? On an iPhone it is of course essential so that you can install Apps which apple don't approve of (amongst other things).
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Its not quite the same,
Without rooting, you can still install what you like with Android.
Fon22
2) i would recommend MOdaCO R3.1 Until Offcial Release Of Froyo 2.2 For Desire , cause current port do have little bugs !
3) Yes U Can , if u ROOT Ur Device , there is an app that does what u want , and it's already included when u flash modaco R3.1 Rom
4) no rooting is not like Jailbreaking , an Android device is usable without rooting , but an iphone without jailbreaking is not !
About the jailbreaking/rooting thing you'll be pleasantly suprised with Android, a simple tick in one of the menus allows you to install anything you like and from any source you care to trust. You'll be treated like a grown-up actually, a nice addition is HTC's relative tolerance of rooting and flashing roms, as long as you don't try and port their proprietary Sense UI. Freedom awaits my friend.
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Hello XDA!
I recently traded my iPhone 4S about 2.5 weeks ago. I am in love with the Samsung Galaxy SIII. I love the sleek style and touchwiz is much more active and more "fun" than iOS. I love the google integration and all the cool features out of the box.
Since I'm new to android I'm really overwhelmed in the amount of information available to "modify or root."
I was a constant jailbreaker and had over 50-100 tweaks/jailbroken apps. I would like to get the same functionality on the SIII.
I wasn't afraid of jailbreaking and it was a one-button press jailbreak.
With android there are so many different versions and terminology to jailbreak and so many instructions and updates and in general just a lot of stuff.
About my new phone:
- Samsung Galaxy SIII
- AT&T
- 8GB miroSD card
- Model: SAMSUNG-SGH-1747
- Android Version: 4.0.4
- Baseband Version: 1747UCLH9
- Kernel version: (IS THIS CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION?)
- I have installed a couple of root apps that I didn't know where root apps and so they don't work obviously.
- Ones I installed: Lucky Patcher, Titanium Backup
- It's not rooted yet I haven't modified it at all besides themes and settings
The reason why I'm posting:
- Can anyone please tell me EXACTLY which updated guides I need to follow for my specific device?
- How can I backup my device? I'd like to keep all the apps (and app data), contacts, everything if possible.
- I read as much as possible but I'm still not sure which guide to follow and which steps I need to take as some are dated and not recent. I'm scared I'll mess up my phone what are the chances of messing up my IMEI, bricking, bad stuff happening.
- Anything else I should know?
- What are some popular ROMS I can install on my phone that are supported (preferrably with JB)?
- Can I always go back to my original settings and apps like a restore but with a backup?
- Once I root what BLOATWARE can I UNINSTALL on my AT&T SIII? How do I do this as well?
Thank you for your patience, I am definitely going to stick with Android (stock iOS sucks balls and android is so much more aesthetically pleasing) I just want to make sure I'm doing everything right and that there is a proper way to do this.
Bronos said:
Hello XDA!
I recently traded my iPhone 4S about 2.5 weeks ago. I am in love with the Samsung Galaxy SIII. I love the sleek style and touchwiz is much more active and more "fun" than iOS. I love the google integration and all the cool features out of the box.
Since I'm new to android I'm really overwhelmed in the amount of information available to "modify or root."
I was a constant jailbreaker and had over 50-100 tweaks/jailbroken apps. I would like to get the same functionality on the SIII.
I wasn't afraid of jailbreaking and it was a one-button press jailbreak.
With android there are so many different versions and terminology to jailbreak and so many instructions and updates and in general just a lot of stuff.
About my new phone:
- Samsung Galaxy SIII
- AT&T
- 8GB miroSD card
- Model: SAMSUNG-SGH-1747
- Android Version: 4.0.4
- Baseband Version: 1747UCLH9
- Kernel version: (IS THIS CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION?)
- I have installed a couple of root apps that I didn't know where root apps and so they don't work obviously.
- Ones I installed: Lucky Patcher, Titanium Backup
- It's not rooted yet I haven't modified it at all besides themes and settings
The reason why I'm posting:
- Can anyone please tell me EXACTLY which updated guides I need to follow for my specific device?
- How can I backup my device? I'd like to keep all the apps (and app data), contacts, everything if possible.
- I read as much as possible but I'm still not sure which guide to follow and which steps I need to take as some are dated and not recent. I'm scared I'll mess up my phone what are the chances of messing up my IMEI, bricking, bad stuff happening.
- Anything else I should know?
- What are some popular ROMS I can install on my phone that are supported (preferrably with JB)?
- Can I always go back to my original settings and apps like a restore but with a backup?
- Once I root what BLOATWARE can I UNINSTALL on my AT&T SIII? How do I do this as well?
Thank you for your patience, I am definitely going to stick with Android (stock iOS sucks balls and android is so much more aesthetically pleasing) I just want to make sure I'm doing everything right and that there is a proper way to do this.
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hey there welcome to XDA and more importantly to the world of android.
first off rooting can be relatively simple depending on the method you use. ive rooted mine twice using odin. i just followed the video here ON Galaxys3root . com all the things you need are in the description.
rooting your phone using this process will not wipe any data, contacts, pics, etc.
once you complete the root process and get rom manager installed it will allow you to make a back up of the current system with all your data like texts phone call logs etc.
the most popular roms are aokp based and cyanogen based roms. ( just look at threads with [ROM] before it ) roms are personal preference. if you flash a cyanogen based rom you will not have the features of touchwiz. stock based roms are always good too right not im just running stock i747uclh9 rooted.
going back to your original rom is simple all you do is boot to recovery (rom manager) and do a restore. before restoring you should wipe data, cache partition and dalvik cache. (dalvik is under the advanced menu.
removing bloatware just use no bloat free this will let you remove and also create a back up of all apps incase you have an issue.
for right now i personally just use ics based roms if you want to stick to stock since there has not been an att jb leak. however if you want jb i recommend cyanogen nighties basic jelly bean roms never had an issue personally.
if you have any more questions feel free to PM me.
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aboveusonlysky said:
hey there welcome to XDA and more importantly to the world of android.
first off rooting can be relatively simple depending on the method you use. ive rooted mine twice using odin. i just followed the video here ON Galaxys3root . com all the things you need are in the description.
rooting your phone using this process will not wipe any data, contacts, pics, etc.
once you complete the root process and get rom manager installed it will allow you to make a back up of the current system with all your data like texts phone call logs etc.
the most popular roms are aokp based and cyanogen based roms. ( just look at threads with [ROM] before it ) roms are personal preference. if you flash a cyanogen based rom you will not have the features of touchwiz. stock based roms are always good too right not im just running stock i747uclh9 rooted.
going back to your original rom is simple all you do is boot to recovery (rom manager) and do a restore. before restoring you should wipe data, cache partition and dalvik cache. (dalvik is under the advanced menu.
removing bloatware just use no bloat free this will let you remove and also create a back up of all apps incase you have an issue.
for right now i personally just use ics based roms if you want to stick to stock since there has not been an att jb leak. however if you want jb i recommend cyanogen nighties basic jelly bean roms never had an issue personally.
if you have any more questions feel free to PM me.
IF THIS POST HELP YOU IN ANYWAY PLEASE CLICK THANKS
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will this Jellybean ROM work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1869300
Do you know if it has a lot of problems?
EDIT: Also does the root method at this website still work for my version which is UCLH9?
http://galaxys3root.com/galaxy-s3-r...gh-t999sgh-i747sph-l710-fail-proofnoob-proof/
Bronos said:
will this Jellybean ROM work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1869300
Do you know if it has a lot of problems?
EDIT: Also does the root method at this website still work for my version which is UCLH9?
http://galaxys3root.com/galaxy-s3-r...gh-t999sgh-i747sph-l710-fail-proofnoob-proof/
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Hello, welcome to the android side of the world! Glad you decided to switch over! first things first, in order to root all you need to do is flash a root able kernel via Odin. Tutorial for this method can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426 Second, I would not recommend that rom as I just came from it and while it is very stable for a leak it is still quite buggy as it is built from a sprint leak. If you are that anxious to have a jellybean I recommend using aokp by task650 in the original development forum, however this will take away all of the touchwiz things that you said you liked so much. I am currently running kyanrom which I have used before and find myself returning to quite frequently because it is originally bone dry and he has whatever files you would like to add back you can add them through flashing zips. I am assuming you are wanting jellybean primarily for the Google now feature? If you will go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1823194 it is a thread by me on how to replace s voice with Google now and as far as I can tell it seems to be working just as well as with jellybean!
Lastly, have a bunny!
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This is a little advice that has helped me and some friends of mine that have came from iPhone. Don't root and rom unless you absolutely have to or willing to pay the price to learn the ends and outs of it. Stock Android or in our case touchwized android can provide a complete satisfactory experience alone without rooting. But some tweaks and mods require root and if that can be bundled in a single rom then great. But if you have jail broken before or ever have to restore an iPhone firmware then rooting will be relatively easy, it's just learning how to self troubleshoot when something goes wrong.
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Take a look at this post for rooting LH9:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32218479
The method is mrRobinson's thread (the one mentioned in a previous post) requires downgrading to an older stock version (LG1) so you would need to upgrade again after doing that. Also, people have reported problems downgrading from LH9 to LG1 without doing a factory reset.
Edit: The method in the post I referenced is roughly the same as the one from the galaxysroot site the OP mentioned.
Make sure when you root your device, that the files are for your current build, android version, carrier and etc. If one thing is out of place you can possibly brick your phone. I'm still learning myself. The most important thing is make sure that you read everything 3 times. Make a check list. It helps.
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Bronos said:
will this Jellybean ROM work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1869300
Do you know if it has a lot of problems?
EDIT: Also does the root method at this website still work for my version which is UCLH9?
http://galaxys3root.com/galaxy-s3-r...gh-t999sgh-i747sph-l710-fail-proofnoob-proof/
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The best jellybean rom I think is ParanoidAndroid. It's CyanogenMod 10 based. CM10 is short hand.
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Hey guys when i switched to CWM recovvery and selected backup to external sdcard it said 'android.secure' couldn't be found skip backup of applications.
So it did not backup my app data, what should I do?
Titanium Backup. Make friends with it. In my opinion a must have for any Android device. For backing up everything you'd need when trying out roms to freezing/deleting (be careful with the latter) 'bloatware' (carrier nonsense) it will be a necessity. And life saver.
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hompsar said:
Titanium Backup. Make friends with it. In my opinion a must have for any Android device. For backing up everything you'd need when trying out roms to freezing/deleting (be careful with the latter) 'bloatware' (carrier nonsense) it will be a necessity. And life saver.
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I couldn't agree with this more. TB is an amazing piece of software and a real lifesaver. Also, since we have external sd cards, make sure to change the settings in TB so your backups are saved on it (if you save it to your internal storage your backup might get wiped during a session of flashing another ROM). If you purchase TB Pro, it includes an option to save your backup to Dropbox (it's well-worth the money and supports the developer too).
OP, I was a longtime iPhone user (I've still got the 4S in a drawer) and I always jailbroke too. Android can be confusing at first, because the terminology is different and just because it's a different operating system. But if you read (and read and read as someone suggested earlier), you'll get the hang of it. Once you do, you'll realize how much easier it is to root and play than it ever was with jailbreaking an iPhone. Another plus...you aren't in constant fear of losing your jailbreak (or root, in this case) because of an update. :good:
You think you know, but you have no idea...
First things first...
Did you understand what you were really doing when you were jailbreaking your iPhone?
What was going on in the background, how the jailbreak was working, what was involved in the jailbreak process or even what the different types of jailbreaks were e.g. userland vs. bootloader (hardware level) exploits [are you familiar with the term "exploit"].
If you think what I am talking about is confusing and if you weren't aware of these things, you might want to avoid rooting and/or flashing custom ROMs.
Android as a platform is much more open than iOS, so lots of features and functions don't require rooting or flashing custom ROMs.
Before I purchased my GS3, I was a die hard iPhone owner, year after year since the first iPhone (with the exception of the recently released 6th gen iPhone and a few diviations here and there to blackberry and old Android phones).
Before I even considered messing with my Galaxy, I read, read some more, and then a little bit more. Regardless of all the reading I did, I had a moderate level of understanding of what I was doing and how my actions were affecting my phone.
All the advice in the world won't save you from bricking your phone if you don't have a general understanding of what these tools are doing to your phone.
In the iOS jailbreak community, the developers behind the tools leverage Apple's fall-back restore features to nearly eliminate the possibility of bricking your phone. But that is also inherent to the platform since there aren't custom ROMs available to install to an iPhone (for many reasons).
To summarize,
It sounds like you need to learn a little more about the world you've been playing in previously before you start playing in the Android world.
Bronos said:
Hello XDA!
I recently traded my iPhone 4S about 2.5 weeks ago. I am in love with the Samsung Galaxy SIII. I love the sleek style and touchwiz is much more active and more "fun" than iOS. I love the google integration and all the cool features out of the box.
Since I'm new to android I'm really overwhelmed in the amount of information available to "modify or root."
I was a constant jailbreaker and had over 50-100 tweaks/jailbroken apps. I would like to get the same functionality on the SIII.
I wasn't afraid of jailbreaking and it was a one-button press jailbreak.
With android there are so many different versions and terminology to jailbreak and so many instructions and updates and in general just a lot of stuff.
About my new phone:
- Samsung Galaxy SIII
- AT&T
- 8GB miroSD card
- Model: SAMSUNG-SGH-1747
- Android Version: 4.0.4
- Baseband Version: 1747UCLH9
- Kernel version: (IS THIS CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION?)
- I have installed a couple of root apps that I didn't know where root apps and so they don't work obviously.
- Ones I installed: Lucky Patcher, Titanium Backup
- It's not rooted yet I haven't modified it at all besides themes and settings
The reason why I'm posting:
- Can anyone please tell me EXACTLY which updated guides I need to follow for my specific device?
- How can I backup my device? I'd like to keep all the apps (and app data), contacts, everything if possible.
- I read as much as possible but I'm still not sure which guide to follow and which steps I need to take as some are dated and not recent. I'm scared I'll mess up my phone what are the chances of messing up my IMEI, bricking, bad stuff happening.
- Anything else I should know?
- What are some popular ROMS I can install on my phone that are supported (preferrably with JB)?
- Can I always go back to my original settings and apps like a restore but with a backup?
- Once I root what BLOATWARE can I UNINSTALL on my AT&T SIII? How do I do this as well?
Thank you for your patience, I am definitely going to stick with Android (stock iOS sucks balls and android is so much more aesthetically pleasing) I just want to make sure I'm doing everything right and that there is a proper way to do this.
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www.galaxys3root.com <---- This is the website you need, just click on the Galaxy S3 FAQ and look under your model for all the information.
mathewrice said:
First things first...
Did you understand what you were really doing when you were jailbreaking your iPhone?
What was going on in the background, how the jailbreak was working, what was involved in the jailbreak process or even what the different types of jailbreaks were e.g. userland vs. bootloader (hardware level) exploits [are you familiar with the term "exploit"].
If you think what I am talking about is confusing and if you weren't aware of these things, you might want to avoid rooting and/or flashing custom ROMs.
Android as a platform is much more open than iOS, so lots of features and functions don't require rooting or flashing custom ROMs.
Before I purchased my GS3, I was a die hard iPhone owner, year after year since the first iPhone (with the exception of the recently released 6th gen iPhone and a few diviations here and there to blackberry and old Android phones).
Before I even considered messing with my Galaxy, I read, read some more, and then a little bit more. Regardless of all the reading I did, I had a moderate level of understanding of what I was doing and how my actions were affecting my phone.
All the advice in the world won't save you from bricking your phone if you don't have a general understanding of what these tools are doing to your phone.
In the iOS jailbreak community, the developers behind the tools leverage Apple's fall-back restore features to nearly eliminate the possibility of bricking your phone. But that is also inherent to the platform since there aren't custom ROMs available to install to an iPhone (for many reasons).
To summarize,
It sounds like you need to learn a little more about the world you've been playing in previously before you start playing in the Android world.
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Hey man thanks for the advice!
I figured it out eventually. I just had to read and actually try Rooting. I now know most of the terminology of android. It's pretty straightforward. Of course there are some errors. But seriously Android is absolutely unbelievable (especially 4.1.1 and JB) have features I could only dream of getting supported on the iPhone.
If I do get errors there is usually a fix or something I can look up on how to avoid it. If a day comes when I do brick I should be alright if I do brick AT&T should be able to replace it for me. I've been a loyal customer to them and my family included.
I highly recommend this guide to rooting. I used it just a few days ago and it worked perfectly.
I tried AOKP and CM10 but have actually settled on this stock ROM for now. I like being able to maintain the 'motion' features which aren't standard on the others. Google Wallet works well too which is a big plus for me. There should be an update in the next 24 hours to "Milestone 5".
That'd the same one I'm using.
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Titanium Backup
Spend those dollars on this App its worth every penny. Read all the FAQs under the links others already gave you.
Hi,
I am really full of compliments about the good work of some guys that have done a good job in building the actual CyanogenMod versions for Wildfire S.
Thank you sooo much!!
But what I currently do not completly understand...
Why are most of the CM users really happy about version 10.2 or version 11.0 (like orig. CyanogenMod or WFSY) when those versions - last version of CM 9.2.2 included - do not even have GooglePlay/PlayStore and Data2SD (or Link2SD) installed?...
The last (and obviously most advanced CM version) CM9 (alpha9, v.9.2.2) would already be a wonderful solution for the WFS phone (I tested it!!) and it is said to be nearly finished (even video camera is working now at the version of Olivier) BUT both mentioned, absolutly necessary components are missing (and nobody mentioned it yet). Or what can I do with a phone where I cannot install new apps at all?..
So what is it that I misunderstand?...
I would be very happy if anybody could inform me about how I can find a version that has a complete set of system apps or how/where I can find both missing components to complete them by myself. (and even more happy if the cyanogenmod update function would still find some updates)
Otherwise I would guess that not any of the existing CM-based versions for Wildfire S can be used at all...
Should all the past work for creating a CM version (Android 4.x !!) for the (unfortunately!) one and only COMPACT smartphone on the world, 'Wildfire S' (I must admit, it is in fact!!) should have been completly in vain ???... I couldn't believe it.
Thank you guys very much for your nice explanations!
All the best to this wonderful community,
from Falk
CyanogenMod said:
Google Apps are the proprietary Google-branded applications that come pre-installed with most Android devices, such as the Play Store, Gmail, Maps, etc. Due to licensing restrictions, these apps cannot come pre-installed with CyanogenMod and must be installed separately.
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Hi Olivier,
many thanks for your tip. You did not mention the point directly but I could answer most of my questions by mayself then.
Now I installed CM9 'cm-9-20140720-Olivier-marvel' together with 'CronMod-INT2EXT+_signed'. Works pretty fine!
Only little questions have been left now...
1.) How can I sort my app icons by subjects/folders (s. HTC Sense)? This Trebuchet launcher does not seem to support anything like that. If there is no chance, which launcher would you suggest instead?
2.) There is no really 'useful' version of CM10 or CM11 for WFS yet, is there? I couldn't find. Do you think there will be s.o. still working for a final version next time?... (why is Wildfire but not Wildfire S an official CM development?)
2b.) At your current version CM9, is there any problem left that should still be fixed? Everything works fine here yet...
3.) Therefore the OTA updater for CM would be a fine feature like in CM9 vers. 9.1.0 (but no updates found yet!). But your current CM9 version does not support it any more. Any reason for that?
3a.) Are updates possible anyway without flashing the whole ROM?
3b.) Is there anybody managing OTA any update of CM (v. 9..11) for WFS?
3c.) Are OTA updates from cm9 to cm11 possible?
4.) Skype does not react when clicking the icon to start it. Any idea what is the problem?...
5.) Some system programs (e.g. contacts or call manager) do not have that nice design than before. There is no chance/choice to exchange them?... (if yes, how and where to find alternatives?)
Thank you again for your final responses!
First of all this really does not belong in the development section, in Q&A perhaps.
And you just can't ask every single think that comes up in your mind, you gotta search a little bit and try it out for yourself.
Now, 1. Trebuchet does support folders but not auto-arranging. Most of the popular launchers support this.
2. The current CM10 and CM11 are perfectly functional and working. Though they lag a bit (which is fair considering our old device). And the wildfire only had an official CM7 which is very old now.
2b. If you don't have a problem it does not contain a problem.
3. OTA is working for CM11. But for CM9 a OTA makes less sense considering that its stable now.
4. No idea.
5. Again you have to look for yourself, nobody can babysit you all the time.
thanks very much!
Okay, maybe question 1 might belong to Q&A. That's it. Sorry.
To make you understanding (sorry to write again so much!)...
to 1.) Did not expect that it would support it. So I did not even search for!... Thanks, this drag/drop solution is more than perfect!!
to 2.) Sorry, then I am not able to find them. I searched a lot and found actual version like 'WFSY11.0-WFS-V5.5, 20140723' or 'cm-11-20140726-NIGHTLY-marvel' where not even back button or Android option menu worked. Lots of functions are missing. I did not try 'cm-11-20140810-NIGHTLY-marvel' but do not expect more within one month. The same with cm version 10.2. In a thread I read that it was give up because cm11 is already working better.
**** So would you please give me the link to the finished versions of cm10 and cm11, please? ****
(a patch for the video camera problem seems to be existing shortly now...)
to 2b.) My first problem I saw was missing updater in cm9 for version 10 and 11. And the strange Skype problem. And video problem was fixed JUST before!! BT seems to have restrictions as well. So there is good reason to ask this question!?..
to 3.) It seems as if simple updating from Android 4.0 to 4.2 (cm10) and 4.4 (cm11) isn't possible!?... Officially it seems to work. E.g. OTA of Samsung offered update from 4.2.2 to 4.4. Strange!... How/why does it work here?...
Remark: So I suppose it is CyanogenMod which does not support it... It will not work without 'Titanium Backup' here...
to 4.) I suppose you will have the same problem!? Maybe you have opportunity to try out quickly!?... Skype really does not seem to run on WFS cm9+INT2EXT+. Isn't that strange?... (I reinstalled it already. No chance.)
to 5.) I asked this HERE because it belongs to SYSTEM apps (contacts or call manager) that cannot easily be exchanged, as far as I know!... Can they?...
There is one thing I would like to add, after your remarks to my point 2... Maybe I could not find the right sources. But this is because there is no resource pool (about WFS at XDA anywhere. Instead there just appear 'lonely' links in some threads. And instead of telling/explaining the systematics (if there is one) you guys generally just mention the fact (e.g. a link). So this makes it hard for non-insiders. You understand what I mean?...
(so e.g. I will have to ask (in another thread) how I can find the 'FM radio' app (no streaming!) which is missing in CM9 - instead of just looking at the right page where they are collected)
I would be really happy to get to know at least where you guys have found the informations for all what you do when 'cooking' new versions, etc.!...
Cause then I would have read about all that much more!... Instead of blaming me. Sorry, if I do not have that general info that you got already.
Maybe you understand better now!?... Would be fine.
Anyway, thanks a lot for your short repsonses. Have a nice day!
Again only things that are directly related to development are to be placed in development section. And NO if you have a problem with a rom you have to ask it in Q&A. Read the development forum rules in the stickies attached to the top of the section.
And you could also try reading through the stickies in the general section. It will give you some understanding.
Now CM10 and CM11 works, the threads are pretty high in the development section, you can find them if you look. The version of CM11 you used is the right one (the NIGHTLY) and back button does work. Try the later versions. Officially updating to a higher version is different and large corporations can spend time and money to make it work. But it just is not possible (or rather safe) with the variety of unofficial roms. You could try but most probably fail. You can install different apps for call and messaging and they will work. Search for those apps. CM9/10 works fine and have very less amount of problems. Now remember that this is a very old device and the devs are doing it NOT as a profession. So every single thing will never work.
Now as a last your largest problem is you think everything will be written somewhere in front of your eyes. It will not be. You have to use Google before asking a question. And also you just have to calm down and fix your attitude.
aWFSuser said:
First of all this really does not belong in the development section, in Q&A perhaps.
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That was my fault, I'd moved this out of a thread and mistakenly put it in the Development section. All sorted now.
thanks again for your time to answer!!
I know, I sound as if I would not know which hard work you guys do. But I do, aWF Suser. And I mentioned that already in the beginning.
And I have heard already from your collegues that it would be a good idea if things could be organised some better. The official cm versions e.g have a central resource pool. Or the android-Wiki and CM-Wiki notes are all out-dated (from 2012) !!... Etc.
But PLEASE understand this more as a suggestion than a criticism - from a user that in your eyes only expects and criticises but cannot give. This is not the case!
Thank you!
I know it is an old smartphone I have. And I would have bought a new one already a long time ago. But even Samsung Galaxy Mini is too big in size and some important functions you will only find in the big version. Why is that so? Nobody can explain!... (i would pay the same price for a small phone!!! Handy devices must not be worse and more expensive than big ones!!)
The WFS is just the only really COMPACT smartphone all over. And I am sad that the industry detected a trend to bigger displays. The opposite is the trueth. Nearly all my friends e.g. like to have a compact phone but those always a beginner versions/hardware which cannot be understood at all.
Really sad. It is a big strange hole in products on market, isn't it?...
Unfortunately you did not give me tips how I could find a way to get more familiar with what and how you guys are doing. Is it a secret? I could imagine to do some work here as well. I am very interested in how you are doing your development work!...
Thank you again...
Now it is sure...
Olivier's last CM9 version still has bugs, not only the problem with lgCamera and Skype but also at the akku loading status.
It seems as if it is not correctly refreshing. The loading curve (s. settings) slows down a lot and shows e.g. after 4 hours loading still 43%. But after rebooting it changed to the right value finally: 100%.
So again my question before, as Olivier unfortunately put away the OTA update function (but ment that it is not necessary anymore):
How can this version be fixed?
As far as I know you don't offer patches but only complete ROMs...
Okay first sorry for being rude as posting in the development section was not your fault.
Now the main problem with our device is not that its old but that it has a armv6 cpu which is not supported by later android versions. So development for developers is tougher and bugs will remain. I mentioned the general stickies before there you can find some useful guides.
And have you installed GAPPS in CM9 because some apps depend on it and won't work without it.
And just to be clear, I'm not really a developer but just a user like you.
I never said CM9 doesn't have bugs. It's is clearly stated in its OP that:
modpunk said:
This ROM is not meant for daily use!
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Hallo Olivier,
never mind. But I just understood it like that. As you gave the reason for the OTA non-support in your ROM.
So if I misunderstood you... what is your reason then?...
In fact it would bring us forward if you could please comment my questions and/or give tips to solve the mentioned problem.
@so please give me a chance to fix the akku status bug. This is really annoying.
Can you confirm that problem? And if so will you fix it?
And if so how can I update it by OTA updater? Or alternatively at least by a patch but not by a new complete ROM !?...
@TO the Skype problem...
First of all: can you confirm my problem?...
To your question: I used your ROM from 20th Aug. (119.518 KB) This one contains already gapps, I suppose. Cause Google Play and the other stuff was already installed!...
@TO lgCamera...
This wonderful camera app worked fine with EQDKP (v.2.3.5) but now it is too slow and hops a lot. Can you confirm that?
And if so do you have any idea why this is a problem?...
@how can I add FM Radio (analog) support?...
Thank you very much for your feedback!
PS: So if the last version of CM9 is not ment for daily use... which CMx version is it then? Is there none?...
Currently your cm9 works fine. Only those three problems so far...
Do you care for my bug messages?... (or where can I post them?)
Hallo aWF Suser,
yes, I know the problem with the arm version. You must not excuse for any bug in CM.
I do not have problems with bugs. I have more problems when they cannot be fixed easily (missing OTA updater) or errors are not heard or cared for so that bugfixes will not be available at all...
By the way the phone Wildfire (without 'S') is supported by Standard CyanogenMod and also has an ArmV6 processor!...
You mean I should read again the forum rules?... What is it that is is still annoying you in my style of writing?...
Olivier's ROM I used (s. previous message) obviously contained GAPPs already. GooglePlay atc. was already installed. So this should not be the reason, should it?...
First of all: can you confirm my Skype problem, aWF Suser?... I expect it to be in each CM9 version!...
Thank you very much for your support!
PS: By the way, I have compatibility problems when flashing ROMs. For nearly each ROM I have to change the recovery. Is there any that can read all 'formats' of zip files?...
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Hallo aWF Suser,
yes, I know the problem with the arm version. So you must not excuse for any bug in CM.
I do not have problems with bugs. I have more problems when they cannot be fixed easily (missing OTA updater) or bugfixes are not available at all...
By the way the phone Wildfire (without 'S') is normally supported at CyanogenMod and also has an ArmV6 processor!...
You mean I should read again the forum rules?... What is it that is is still annoying you in my style of writing?...
Olivier's ROM I used (s. next message) obviously contained GAPPs already. GooglePlay atc. was already installed.
So this should not be the reason, should it?...
First of all: can you confirm my Skype problem, aWF Suser?... I expect it to be in each CM9 version!...
Thank you very much for your support!
PS: By the way, I have compatibility problems with ROMs. For every second ROM I have to change the Recovery. Is there any that can read all 'formats' of zip files?...
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The Wildfire is listed officially only for CM7 (gingerbread) . After that it has not been supported. I am not asking you to read the rules, in the stickies in general section there is a thread that lists some guides to some useful things. And is OTA that necessary because in most cases a dirty flash is enough to upgrade from one version to another as long as its the same android version. Upgrades between different android version would not be possible even with OTA (as lots of things change, it will probably end in a bootloop). I am not using CM9 currently so can't speak for that.
So then which CM version are you using on your WFS? And why?
I flashed cm11 shortly but it still has too many problems. E.g. the camera app crashes after successfully recording a video, the launcher only has two pages, launcher does not seem to support folders, etc.
Do you know where I can find the actual todo list? (AndroidWiki unfortunately is not maintained anymore!)
I will give Paranoid 4.45 a try yet. Maybe this is better!?...
Otherwise I will keep cm9 and hope that we can find out why Skype is not running.
Oooh, that is important... I can make a 'dirt flash'? This is very fine!! Then OTA is not that necessary, of course. But there is still no reason to left it away, is it? Especially because all this observing and searching for the update is NOT necessary! Can't understand Olivier here...
Could you comment my PS as well, please?...
(error log: "cannot load volume /misc. Can't partition non-vfat: /sto .. (vfat)")
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-wildfire-s/development/cyanogenmod-10-t2908631
is there any better rom than this rom? how can i improve battery life with screen on? i want it for daily driver, i do not use bluetooth ad2p but i dont know what armv7 features means...
for me its affordable atm and give a new life to the oldie and shiny wfs
Which rom is the most stable for everyday use?
(With working wi-fi tethering)
Hi guys, I have a HTC M8 AT&T (Actually version. Android: 5.0.2 | Software: 4.28.502.1) bought in the United States but use in Brazil, but it is not possible to automatically update and I always down by the site the latest version. I always wanted to modify the phone but was always afraid of not liking too. But now I'm trying to change and unlock it.
I have some doubts about the ROM.
- Everything works the same as the original?
- It will take some bug during use?
- Can I have the visual theme of the original?
- If I want to go back to the original, it is possible?
I apologize for the questions, but it is something I want to solve.
I read a lot here, see topics ROMS but always have some doubts, I see a lot of people talking about problems, etc.
Thank you all.
My responses below in red font:
diigodr said:
I have some doubts about the ROM. What ROM(s) are you considering? If you don't specify, it makes all your following questions too vague to possibly answer!
- Everything works the same as the original? Too vague to know what you are asking about. What specific features are you concerned about? The basic functionality (what you can do with the phone) will be the similar or same; but obviously there will be some differences, otherwise why install the ROM at all? In fact, many custom ROMs will be "better" than stock in many ways (which is the main point). For instance, performance tweaks, removed bloatware, and most will remove AT&T's limitation on being able to use WiFi hotspot (tethering).
- It will take some bug during use? Its possible to have bugs. But the official stock ROMs have bugs, too. ROMs based on HTC baseline ROMs (Sense or GPE) are typically very stable, and with very few bugs (are if any, they are very minor). More on "bugs" below.
- Can I have the visual theme of the original? It depend on what ROM you are talking about. It will typically state in the ROM threads if it has been themed, if it has tools built-in to change the theme, etc.
- If I want to go back to the original, it is possible? Of course. In fact, you can and should make a TWRP (custom recovery) backup of the stock ROM before you flash any custom ROMs, in case you want to revert to stock(as doing a TWRP backup makes it much easier to revert).
I read a lot here, see topics ROMS but always have some doubts, I see a lot of people talking about problems, etc. Again, too vague to know what you are referring to. Sometimes "bugs" are due to user error, such as having outdated firmware, not doing proper wipes before flashing, etc.
Whether to flash a custom ROM is a good idea for you as an individual, is a very personal choice. It depends on what you hope to obtain, which you really haven't mentioned at all. But custom ROMs are obviously worthwhile to a large number of folks. Otherwise, XDA wouldn't exist in the first place.
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Hi everyone!
First of all, forgive me for all my noobish mistakes as I have never had a HTC branded phone.
I'm about to buy this phone for a quite decent price and use it as my main and daily driver so before paying I want to know some basic things beforehand.
My main point is to get the rom "ViperOne" working in the M9 with root as I want the best performance from stock HTC firmware and because I need their drivers to be as good as possible ( sound wise).
I have already read the entire OP on the thread rom of ViperOne and I haven't seen a word about S-on/off so I'm guessing that I will not have to mess around with that kind of security right?
So to sum up things, will I need S-Off for this?
-Custom Recovery (twrp)
-ViperOne rom with root.
-Maybe installing another kernel over ViperOne.
-Thermal (software) mod.
-Audio mods.
Thanks everyone by advance.
Just need to have an unlocked M9
S-off is for downgrade firmware, change CID/MID... (more risk to brick )
dirtyl0lharry said:
Hi everyone!
First of all, forgive me for all my noobish mistakes as I have never had a HTC branded phone.
I'm about to buy this phone for a quite decent price and use it as my main and daily driver so before paying I want to know some basic things beforehand.
My main point is to get the rom "ViperOne" working in the M9 with root as I want the best performance from stock HTC firmware and because I need their drivers to be as good as possible ( sound wise).
I have already read the entire OP on the thread rom of ViperOne and I haven't seen a word about S-on/off so I'm guessing that I will not have to mess around with that kind of security right?
So to sum up things, will I need S-Off for this?
-Custom Recovery (twrp)
-ViperOne rom with root.
-Maybe installing another kernel over ViperOne.
-Thermal (software) mod.
-Audio mods.
Thanks everyone by advance.
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dirtyl0lharry said:
Hi everyone!
First of all, forgive me for all my noobish mistakes as I have never had a HTC branded phone.
I'm about to buy this phone for a quite decent price and use it as my main and daily driver so before paying I want to know some basic things beforehand.
My main point is to get the rom "ViperOne" working in the M9 with root as I want the best performance from stock HTC firmware and because I need their drivers to be as good as possible ( sound wise).
I have already read the entire OP on the thread rom of ViperOne and I haven't seen a word about S-on/off so I'm guessing that I will not have to mess around with that kind of security right?
So to sum up things, will I need S-Off for this?
-Custom Recovery (twrp)
-ViperOne rom with root.
-Maybe installing another kernel over ViperOne.
-Thermal (software) mod.
-Audio mods.
Thanks everyone by advance.
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You don't need s-off but it is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED to do so if you're rooting the device and messing with roms. It gives that extra level of recovering the device should you cabbage it.
This but is a slight education into custom roms and why "I" believe you shouldn't do it on ANY device:
Custom roms/firmwares are built using "open source" code. Stock roms/firmwares are built using "proprietary" code. "proprietary" code is code that is specifically written for 'x' device by a team of software engineers using "proprietary" software and hardware specifically built for 'x' brand. For example, htc have their own stuff and samsung have theirs, so on and so forth. This makes the software "married/tailor made" to the hardware so it comes as optimised as it can possibly be while weighing in factors of carrier "bloatware". No-one wants to lose a customer because of a device that is inherently slow. No-one will buy a device that is inherently slow.
Then you have custom roms and firmware. Because proprietary code is private and not for the public domain, this "open source code" is more or less "trial and error" process to get all the features of a rom or firmware to run efficiently and effectively. This results in non optimised bad code, bugs, long processes, excess code and therefore "CAN" be slower than stock roms. Couple this with deodexed and it'll bog the device down in no time.
So as you can see, I don't really like custom roms or firmware just for the fact it is no faster or no better than the software that came with the device in the first place. It was designed specifically.
My advice is to leave the phone stock rooted and s-off if you MUST have them. Otherwise don't touch it at all and continue to get updates as they are released with no hassle!.
Beamed in by telepathy.
I need to correct some of the information that got posted previously in this thread.
First of all: There are only custom roms but no custom firmwares for HTC devices (c.f. the difference between rom and firmware).
Second: S-OFF increases the risk of a hard-brick dramatically since it removes security checks of the phone (c.f. this article, the 5th post/the first page of Sneakyghost's firmware thread and the article that I already linked above). S-ON phones will refuse to accept broken files (e.g. RUUs that got corrupted due to a bad download). A phone with S-OFF on the other hand will get flashed with such a broken file and you won't get notified with any error outputs. Another example are those NoRedText aboots which remove the read warning that appears during the boot if the bootloader got unlocked. You can only flash them with S-OFF but if the hex edits didn't get executed correctly this can actually lead to unrecoverable damages.
Don't get me wrong. I'm using a S-OFF phone, too. However, you need to be aware of the risks and that you don't need S-OFF for recovering a phone. Keeping a RUU at hand for your current firmware version (if one exists) or at least a TWRP backup of the stock rom is more than enough. Damages that can't get repaired with either a RUU or a backup can't get repaired with S-OFF, either, in most of the cases.
Third: You need to differentiate between stock rom based custom roms (e.g. ViperOne or ICE) and those custom roms that are developed from source (those are the roms that shivadow mentioned in his post - e.g. Lineage or Resurrection Remix).
Those roms that are based on the stock rom deliver the same perfomance (or maybe an almost not noticeable better/worse performance) than the stock rom does. There are no differences between the core of these roms and the stock rom. (On the other hands this means that bugs of the stock rom are present in these roms, as well.) Therefore the performance differences are minimalistic. However, you don't flash such roms due to their performance differences (in comparison with the stock rom) but due to the additional features that they provide on top of the stock rom experience.
Causes for disadvantages of the other group of custom roms already got explained by shivadow in his post. A perfect example is the bad perfomance of HTC's cameras (the hardware of the phones not the app) on CM/Lineage roms. Nevertheless, I've never seen an HTC phone being incredibly slower on a custom rom than it was on the stock rom. My One S for example is much snappier on Lineage 14.1 than it would be on its android 4.1.1 stock rom and its battery is lasting much longer (well, android 7 has way more battery optimizations than android 4.1.1 so that isn't such a surprise). The only thing that I can complain about is (as mentioned before) the picture quality of the camera.
In other words, it's not always black and white. The best advice that I can give is to test all roms that are available and to use that custom/stock rom that suits your needs best.
Fourth and last: The M9 is more than two years old. HTC normally doesn't support any phone longer than this time period. There probably won't be any more updates than the nougat updates for those SKUs that haven't received firmware 4.x, yet.
TL;DR: What got written in post #2.
I tried to generalise, thats why i mentioned custom firmwares AND roms as some devices have custom firmware, rather than custom roms. Some have both, some have none.
Absolutely right that s-off is a double edged sword that you don't really want to fall on so I highly recommend that it is best to keep the device as stock but if you must root it it's worth s-off. I've seen plenty of posts for devices being screwed regardless of s-off. Also don't you need s-off to be able to restore your system backup from twrp?.
THE only reason I rooted my phone is to block "intrusive" ads. I don't want ads on my homescreen, lockscreen or really anything but apps that are good enough to warrant being paid for their efforts. Now that there is an abundance of adblocking software that no longer requires root I have absolutely no reason to keep my phone modded. I'd flash back to stock but my luck says I'll f**k the phone beyond recognition. It'll probably burn my house down, crash my car and kill my dog too!.
Nowadays root isn't necessary if you're not a dev. Thats the point I'm trying to get across!.
Beamed in by telepathy.
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Also don't you need s-off to be able to restore your system backup from twrp?
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No, you don't (and never did). It doesn't make any sense to S-OFF the phone just because you can if you don't need it for any of the purposes that are mentioned in the articles/posts that I linked in my last post. It only highers the risk of bricks due to what I wrote in my last post.
And there are other uses for custom roms/root aside from ad blocking but that would be an off-topic discussion in this thread.
Sent from my HTC One M9 using XDA Labs
@Flippy498 @shivadow thank you guys for all the links and the extra informations. I really appreciate it since there are things about HTC that I haven't seen on any other brands.
To get things clearer, since my Moto G XT1039 is getting old ( low performance and battery barely keeps up with the day) and I'm really into music and sound (spotify premium and lots of flacs) and a Fiio X7 android based mp4 is too expensive, I wanted to get a top sound-chip phone, actually, a phone with a top Digital to Analogic Converter.
Of course I do know that if I want to use all the power and features that the M9 makes for its sound, I need to be on stock firmware because of the drivers. I'm guessing that the audio behaves like the camera once using and AOSP based rom ( LOS, Slim, RRemix...) getting worse.
Thats why I want this phone, it basically is much more powerful than my Moto G SD400, it has way better camera, it has a 64bit SoC and official Nougat update and I'll end up with a great DAP on my pocket to use with Spotify.
As I said, I like to get everything as minimal as possible, I hate when the home screen is full of icons and widgets, I hate having lots of icons and indicatos on the status bar, I hate having all sensor toggled on ( gpu, nfc, bluetooth...), thats why I was looking for a stock rom that let me custom all the things to keep it as minimal as possible.
If you know any other updated, stock based rom, just let me know and link it to me as I'll disable as many things as I can to get extra battery on the phone. Yes, you can guess it, even on battery saving mode, the M9 would beat the hell out of the Moto G, so I'm giving up on everything but the sound, just to get more battery time.
I hope you can understand me now.