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I've been reading up on all the possible issues so far and the list goes on and on. Is it worth the risk? From random reboots, to even wifi range.
IMO, I think it is worth the risk. I think all the problems are addressable and will eventually be solved either by ASUS/Google or our intrepid developers here. It is really an amazing piece of hardware. It is just going through some teething pains at the moment.
Also, even if you don't like it and even if you exceed the take-back period, I think you would be able to sell it for enough to come close to recovering your cost, so the risk is minimal either way.
PJ Clifford said:
IMO, I think it is worth the risk. I think all the problems are addressable and will eventually be solved either by ASUS/Google or our intrepid developers here. It is really an amazing piece of hardware. It is just going through some teething pains at the moment.
Also, even if you don't like it and even if you exceed the take-back period, I think you would be able to sell it for enough to come close to recovering your cost, so the risk is minimal either way.
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No problem with mine. Poor iPad is gettin dusty though!
No need to worry. I would recommend only buying the tablet from a place that will allow you to easily exchange it. In case you get a unit with dust under the screen or light bleed. I personally had to go through 4 until I had gotten a perfect unit. Hopefully they have worked out the kinks with the new batches shipping out. Just note a good amount of tablet manufacturers, not just Asus, seem to skimp on the quality.
I am really happy with my tablet! It is everything that I need it to be for the price.
Bought mine from Amazon on release day and it's had no issues. I wouldn't be worried...remember that usually the only people to speak up are ones that are having problems. Most people aren't going to come to a forum just to post that their device is working as it should.
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Bought mine from Amazon on release day and it's had no issues. I wouldn't be worried...remember that usually the only people to speak up are ones that are having problems. Most people aren't going to come to a forum just to post that their device is working as it should.
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Agreed. Mine is working great... although my first unit did have faulty speakers... Returned it and exchanged at BB no problem. So not really much to worry about as the return/exchange policies at most reputable places are very good.
From what I've read GPS and multi touch issues might be fixed as long as they're not hardware related. It's very much possible that there are different hardware combinations for different batches of the n7.
How do I know if my unit has a wifi problem out of the box? I live in the Philippines so it's a long way from the US if I have to return it lol! But aside from the note 10.1 2013, there arent really any alternatives to good high end android tablets.
My phone is out of warranty, because I have had it for a year and a half. A couple of weeks ago, lines appeared on my screen, and I couldn't use it. I sent it into HTC support for a repair diagnosis. Comes back that I need a touch panel replacement. They want me to pay freaking 200$ to replace it. What do you guys think?
Given how hard it is to replace the display, yes. You might be able to find it for less - a quick Google search found offers from $110 to $190, so I don't believe they are cheating you at the price quoted. Yes, the quote is a little higher than average, but it's also being done by HTC, not a high-school kid who has watched a lot of Youtube videos. I would imagine they are going to use genuine components and return the phone to like-new condition as well.
The real question is whether it is worth it or not. For the price of repair, you have a substantial percentage of the cost of a new device. I love my M8, but if I was looking down the barrel of an expensive repair, I'd be saving it for a new device instead.
I agree on all points in the previous response. You can probably find a lower price at a local repair shop, but might only be saving $50 or so. And I've seen some horror stories on these forums of some shops botching such screen replacements. Its not an easy repair to perform, and also easy to damage other components in the process. Its basically a gamble what kind of results a local repair shop will give you. Do they guarantee the phone is in perfect working condition after the repair? What happens if they scratch it up, or damage something in the process?
With HTC, you have a pretty good guarantee that they will do a good job (and with genuine parts, as mentioned).
$200 is a good chunk of cash, for sure. As also stated in the previous post, it might be better spent toward an upgrade. The M8 is a great phone, for sure. But its over 2 years old, and you may be looking for an upgrade soon, anyway.
What's going to happen to the million returned Note 7's ?
Landfill or refurbish?
It would be a massive job to open up the phones and replace the battery, and probably not worthwhile for used phones.
But there will be thousands of phones in the distribution channels that have not be sold and are in factory condition. How can someone buying a new Note 7 in say a month's time be sure it hasn't been opened up, battery replaced and repackaged? I wouldn't want one for sure.
Just think - if the battery was still removable like the Note 4 the whole thing would be so much simpler. Send out new batteries, job done.
scrapped for parts?
I'd think most of it would be in near mint condition. So a little bit of cleaning up and resold as new units or refurbished. They did just start this refurbished program very recently.
Seriously? Landfill? Do people think before posting? They are replacing the battery in the units. Then selling refurbished.
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BozQ said:
I'd think most of it would be in near mint condition. So a little bit of cleaning up and resold as new units or refurbished. They did just start this refurbished program very recently.
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The same refurbished program that has them selling a refurb T-Mobile S6 edge for $499, while T-Mobile themselves are selling new ones for $499.
Good luck with that, lol.
Selling as refurbished would be fine. But selling as new would not. How would you tell the difference?
Turns into note 8
The refurbished ones would show as such when checked with the proper app.
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Turns into note 8
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Note 8 sounds right for us, maybe not for them.
Fix battery problem, fix GG5 problem = the premium phone it is supposed to be.
I would think they'd examine their batteries to get a full picture of the problem for their own records. Probably they'll exchange the batteries and use them as refurbs after this.
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Depends who sold your phone to you.
I expect Carphone Warehouse will require customers to take their faulty phones to the heart of Mordor and there cast them down in to the fires of Mount Doom, before they'll consider providing a replacement.
And even then it'll be four weeks late.
if they send me a refurb after 3 days use before the recall was announced i'd expect a hefty refund for receipt of a second hand phone! h
I would assume they would come up with a way to read the serial and maker of the battery pack without opening up the phone, then replace only the needed ones.
I'm thinking if they had lot control of the batteries and which phones they were installed in or thought they could be identified via any means they would have done so already and then issued a recall for affected units rather than a global recall. At a guess I would venture that trying to figure out if they could do exactly that accounts for the delay between the global recall and the time it was first determined that batteries were going boom. And yes, they will become refurbs. I hadn't thought of the fact that they could be sent out as replacement units...
I'm wondering what happens to the phones you buy and then return them just cause you didn't like them, what do they do with them? Not just Note, but every phone. Do they resell them?
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I'm wondering what happens to the phones you buy and then return them just cause you didn't like them, what do they do with them? Not just Note, but every phone. Do they resell them?
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most suppliers run their own refurb programs, so they will likely polish them up and sell them on as nearly new. (like when you buy a display model out of a shop)
as for the recalled units, chances are they will use them for parts or refurbish the phones and then use them for warranty claims and such also probably sell some on at a slight discount as certified refurbished phones.
there is just too much cost in the couple of million devices for them just to scrap them, probably way more than it will cost to debond the back replace the battery and rebond the back.
They go to heaven.
locate the faulty , remove
test and check all used recalled one then might just return back to original owner after fixing any issues such as a scratched glass
looking at other issues threads
there is a batch or bad battery
and another batch of a less bad battery since lots have reported lagging and reeboots
thoses will be replaced too
but total healthy units might just come back to you as the fixing process is taking place in each country locally
but yet each country has its trading law , so they work accordingly
thats just my guess coming out from my own overthinkful head ?
Easily refurbished and make money off of them. Samsung hasn't had profits in a bit since the s7 s7edge and the note 7 was doing well, it's a hickup but they are doing the right thing. I read a story from 2009 where a teen girl in uk had a iPhone explode and glass in her eye, Apple said not our fault. Since then tons of cases Apple does nothing. They lawyer up and keep profits.
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I think Isis are going to buy them all
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Without considering the current state of facts. Imagining I am going to buy the Samsung note 7 in October. What I will do when in a couple of years as hard user the battery have to be replaced? I saw on youtube that is extremely hard to open it , and small fix shops could have some problems. How much it cost to ask Samsung to change it? And will the water resistant feature restored? I mean after all there is any guarantee for water damages. Thanks
You won't care, because the Note 9 will have just come out.
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you are absolutely right!
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You won't care, because the Note 9 will have just come out.
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I do not have any replacement program, if I spend 850 Euro, I would be glad to know how much cost a decent battery substitution
Then with the money I can make selling the unit, maybe I could consider the samsung 9( if touchwiz keep going to be)
Always implying that Sam will give me in Europe the phone the first decade of October. I am in pre-order since end of August:laugh::laugh::laugh:
You'll have to deal with Samsung Repair Centre in 2 years. They will change the battery ... if you put away 5 bucks every month, this should be enough for the service
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Without considering the current state of facts. Imagining I am going to buy the Samsung note 7 in October. What I will do when in a couple of years as hard user the battery have to be replaced? I saw on youtube that is extremely hard to open it , and small fix shops could have some problems. How much it cost to ask Samsung to change it? And will the water resistant feature restored? I mean after all there is any guarantee for water damages. Thanks
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Customer Irreplaceable batteries are the direction most of the major flagship mobiles have headed.
This is not an isolated situation to Samsung.
As the mobile is water resistant such a mobile should only be repaired by Samsung officially recognised technicians. After a battery or other repair has been carried out an OFFICIAL authorised store will pressure test the device to ensure its continued water and dust resistance complies with the IP rating.
This will cost. That's one of the facts of life we accept when we make such a purchase.
At present technology can't produce what all customers want without compromise.
The majority of today's technology has built in obsolescence. Its the speed this technology is developing due to customer demands that causes such situations.
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This will cost.
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Ryland
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Fair enough. But how much?
OK is not nice, but you accept if you like Samsung.
But do I have the right, when I buy the device to know how much it will be? And even to know if this means I have to ship my telephone incurring in further cost, and not have the telephone in the time being.
nb. Imagine that sam employees are human beings and can make a mistake, as the telephone is not insured against water damage.. how can I prove that they did not do a proper work if when come back to me is not water resistant anymore?
Anyway at least i am grateful to samsung that give me the possibility to put an sd card afterall
look at the cost of the S6/S7 it will probably be similar.
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Fair enough. But how much?
OK is not nice, but you accept if you like Samsung.
But do I have the right, when I buy the device to know how much it will be? And even to know if this means I have to ship my telephone incurring in further cost, and not have the telephone in the time being.
nb. Imagine that sam employees are human beings and can make a mistake, as the telephone is not insured against water damage.. how can I prove that they did not do a proper work if when come back to me is not water resistant anymore?
Anyway at least i am grateful to samsung that give me the possibility to put an sd card afterall
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Hi. I cant answer your question and further doubt anyone can. In two years who knows the cost of manual labour and parts?
Your second point is rather moot as when we make the initial purchase we are trusting Samsung that what they claim regarding the IP of their mobile is correct. Same trust would apply after an official repair had been made. There are no 100€ guarantees in life.
Out of interest why do you mention a specific two year period? Battery life will depend on user use and could, theoretically, be from 1 year (?) to.........who knows?
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look at the cost of the S6/S7 it will probably be similar.
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Indeed but the poster is asking about prices in two years time, sort of requesting a forecast that I don't think can be given today?
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Ryland Johnson said:
Hi. I cant answer your question and further doubt anyone can. In two years who knows the cost of manual labour and parts?
Your second point is rather moot as when we make the initial purchase we are trusting Samsung that what they claim regarding the IP of their mobile is correct. Same trust would apply after an official repair had been made. There are no 100€ guarantees in life.
Out of interest why do you mention a specific two year period? Battery life will depend on user use and could, theoretically, be from 1 year (?) to.........who knows?
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Ryland thank you again for the interest. Well I calculated 400 cycles of 1,5 days, that make roughly 2 years.
I hope samsung will be smart enough to embrace an eink real time screen cover( they are NOT really smart in my opinion to not do it, they would make much more money, also if this means batteries will be substitute less, but in the end I am sure people will go also to cheap 3d parties that give guarantee of not exploding batteries, after all the water resistant thing is nice, but for years we survived without it, even because at the current state of facts, nobody can bring the samsung under the shower or having a bath, because the guarantee does not cover, so is for incidental problems the water resistance, exactly the same risk I buy the screen even if could shatter)
and it depends on how intesive you use your device. if you need to load it every second or third day, you'll have a nice battery in two years. If you need to charge it twice a day, you might really need to replace it ...
your working on needing a new battery in 2 years from charging less than once a day? I charged my S6 some days up to 3 times a day for about 18 months and the battery is still working fine.
the batteries are a lot more durable than a lot of people make out.
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your working on needing a new battery in 2 years from charging less than once a day? I charged my S6 some days up to 3 times a day for about 18 months and the battery is still working fine.
the batteries are a lot more durable than a lot of people make out.
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True. Specially if you keep them between 40% - 80%.
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True. Specially if you keep them between 40% - 80%.
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guys please I cannot understand this.
It is maybe undoubtedly true that charging more times the battery during the day at the condition that you maintain between 40 and 80% will last more than if I charge from 5 to 100% every two days?
Please shed some scientific light on that, specifically for samsung fast charging context
thanks
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guys please I cannot understand this.
It is maybe undoubtedly true that charging more times the battery during the day at the condition that you maintain between 40 and 80% will last more than if I charge from 5 to 100% every two days?
Please shed some scientific light on that, specifically for samsung fast charging context
thanks
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There you go:
https://www.wirelessdesignmag.com/b...hould-stop-fully-charging-your-smartphone-now
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/archive/the_high_power_lithium_ion
In the U.S., Samsung charges $45 for an out of warranty battery replacement for a S6. The battery is warranted to hold an 80% charge for a year and if it doesn't replacing it is free. Apple charges $75 for an iPhone battery replacement. So I'd imagine the 7-series phones are somewhere between $45-75.
come on, please, think ! in two years, all your concerns will be wayyyy differernt!, so, start enjoying your really beatyful device, and forget all innesesary future concerns
thank you everyone,
up to 80 EU is fine considering the product, I am counting the days they will start to sell.
How do you feel about Samsung's mass recall of the note 7?
Obviously peiple could be angry, but this event raises the question of device safty.
This doesnt happen all that often and im interested in your opinion.
My personal opinion is that Samsung failed miserably here.
From the high price, one would expect competence and qualify control. Nope.
From the high price, one would expect better facilities to make these things. Nope
Smartphones are incredibly overpriced.
OEMs dont offer QC.
They dont offer a valuable long lasting product.
Only 18 months of sofware support.
One year of warranty.
Non removable batteries. This recalll eouldnt even be a thing if this phone had removable batteries. Or aka planned obsolescence.
This isnt a problem with just samsung however, but they made an excellent poimt about what i raised here.
I am extremely disappointed by this situation.
Id nothing else, people should be angry at samsung for wasting their time with the note 7.
Disappointed. But not angry at Samsung about what happened to the Galaxy Note 7.
I applaud them for creating such an exciting device. Such a massive recall wouldn't have happened if they didn't create an outstanding smartphone.
If the battery fires befell on another brand's smartphone, let's say HTC 10, I don't think they would handle it as well as Samsung did.
Okay, back to Samsung. Clearly, they I overlooked something. If SDI and the replacement units with ATL batteries are catching fire, then something else is triggering it.
I strongly suspect the dual curve design is the main culprit setting the battery on fire. But that's me speculating. I sincerely hope Samsung will be able to find the root of this problem and be transparent about it to everyone. And what measures they will take to prevent such disaster from happening again.
I'm seeking a full refund from them instead of exchanging for an S7 Edge. I'll be getting the LG V20 next month. But I'll be keeping a close eye on Samsung. And also keeping an open mind about their S8 and Note 8.
I think Samsung did the right thing during the first recall.
I think the second recall was done more because of pressure from the media, than that it would've been done if there was no recall presiding there issues. They needed to protect their brand at large, and considering the Note is only a small part of everything they sell, it was likely better to take this loss rather than placing the trustworthiness of their brand at risk.
All in all I'm not happy with it, but it is what it is, I don't blame them either way.
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If it's anything, I think the replacement unit with the supposedly "safe" ATL batteries are more prone to combusting than the original.
Btw, I'd like to add that I'm not dismissing that there may still be an issue with the phone, it's just that I have my doubts that the 2nd recall would've happened without the media playing it's part.
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this was all media`s fault, some years ago there would no be a fuss so great as this, this is to be expected in the future with other brands as well