Still using? - Pixel C Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Still using? - Pixel C Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey anyone still using this bad boy? My screens got some cracks. Anywhere in Australia can get it fixed? Awesome tablet.

I still have it but do not use it too often, just keeping it updated and sometimes play some retro games on it.

Still use it everyday. Bought a Brand New Google Keyboard Cover on eBay a few months ago for real cheap (like $45 lol) and now it's even better. Typing this message on it now.
Thinking of doing a factor reset and starting fresh, but not sure what that would gain me.

I just picked one up used with a keyboard so I will be using it for the foreseeable future. What's the best ROM and kernel?

Use it every day, all day. It's my main Android device. Love it and don't see anything else I'd rather have.

I use it every day. Sometimes a lot. As it ages I have become annoyed that my system decided my battery is ruined and so it throttles the SOC pretty badly below ~80% charge and replacement parts are not really available but other than that it's been pretty good to me. I went through 2 magnetic keyboards and both had terrible key repeating problems but I happened to find the folio keyboard at a thrift store and it's been solid ever since. Wish it had GPS, haptics, better touch screen, and exposed more of its hardware to the /sys folder so I could tweak more things with root but that's the ChromeOS blood showing.
Next time I'll go for max storage though. 32gig was a mistake.

pjcons said:
Hey anyone still using this bad boy? My screens got some cracks. Anywhere in Australia can get it fixed? Awesome tablet.
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My daily driver.
I purchased a second on ebay last year for a backup

pjcons said:
Hey anyone still using this bad boy? My screens got some cracks. Anywhere in Australia can get it fixed? Awesome tablet.
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Hey I have the same problem. Been using it for 2-3 years and screen cracks have appeared - don't know how actually. Not found anywhere you can find to repair, regrettably. :crying:

i used mine mostly daily for basic stuff. I have a pixel slate and honestly prefer this. I personally have out I dislike ChromeOS and prefer android. I think its way more versatile.

Use mine all the time. Almost don't use my laptop anymore. Even do word processing on it, Microsoft Word for Android, great program. Very lightweight, comfortable to put on lap, and easily transportable. Not an expert, but as far as I can tell best device that I've noticed even today. Not sure what I'll do when these get too old. Still getting updates from Google. Don't understand how this device didn't get popular. The Google colored line probably should have been in the shape of a G. Hard to tell what brand it is so losing advertising at coffee shops. Search key on keyboard not necessary. Should have been another key, like caps lock. Delete button would have been nice. Has some problems, but overall very nice device and should have been developed. No demand for it I guess for whatever reasons.

I also use mine all the time. Most of the time for basic things like Netflix, reading/annotating pdfs, reading ect. But sometimes also for multitasking, like code reviews and stuff. The best tablet I ever used!

Of course. Nearly every day.

I still use it, bought it as soon as released.
locuturus said:
I use it every day. Sometimes a lot. As it ages I have become annoyed that my system decided my battery is ruined and so it throttles the SOC pretty badly below ~80% charge and replacement parts are not really available but other than that it's been pretty good to me.
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Mine is around 70% ... Nothing to do to avoid that ?

En Kee said:
I still use it, bought it as soon as released.
Mine is around 70% ... Nothing to do to avoid that ?
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So far as I know a new battery is the only way out of this problem.* Apparently they are out there on the internet to buy. But it looks like the repair is pretty challenging to pull off without breaking the screen.
*Maybe a root solution could be cooked up but the Pixel C does not conform to most other Android systems so pre existing solutions don't often work well.

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My phone now belongs to the State of Massachussets

So yeah, I did it again, I've lost my phone. Please flame me.
The other day I was at concert in Turin (Dropkick Murphys, wohoo), and probably due to the fact that I was right in front of the stage, drunk like hell and dancing like a fool for a couple hours I've lost my phone in the middle of the crazy-jumping-punching crowd. No chance, I couldn't find it anywhere after the show, and looking for it while it was still going would have been like looking for a quick but painful death, it must have been totally destroyed after a few seconds anyway. So when I got home I called my carrier and blocked my number, then (smart as hell) I tried tracking/blocking my phone on windowsphone.com, but that didn't work. Yesterday I went to the police station so that I was able to report the fact in order to be able to get a new sim-card with my old number from my carrier. That's it, now I'm still pissed but I can handle it.
Anyway, here are some (probably pretty lame) questions. Now I got my phone blocked via IMEI and I have my number, so that's quite fine, but what about the data I had on my phone? In particular, what about the apps I bought and stuff like that? In the coming weeks I'm getting paid for a random work I did so I'll be definitely getting another WP7 device, but I still don't know much about this platform so I don't know how this works. On Android when I switched phone I had all my apps, contacts and stuff linked to my Google account and I've never lost a thing, how does that work here exactly?
Sorry for the dumb questions...

vnvman said:
So yeah, I did it again, I've lost my phone. Please flame me.
The other day I was at concert in Turin (Dropkick Murphys, wohoo), and probably due to the fact that I was right in front of the stage, drunk like hell and dancing like a fool for a couple hours I've lost my phone in the middle of the crazy-jumping-punching crowd. No chance, I couldn't find it anywhere after the show, and looking for it while it was still going would have been like looking for a quick but painful death, it must have been totally destroyed after a few seconds anyway. So when I got home I called my carrier and blocked my number, then (smart as hell) I tried tracking/blocking my phone on windowsphone.com, but that didn't work. Yesterday I went to the police station so that I was able to report the fact in order to be able to get a new sim-card with my old number from my carrier. That's it, now I'm still pissed but I can handle it.
Anyway, here are some (probably pretty lame) questions. Now I got my phone blocked via IMEI and I have my number, so that's quite fine, but what about the data I had on my phone? In particular, what about the apps I bought and stuff like that? In the coming weeks I'm getting paid for a random work I did so I'll be definitely getting another WP7 device, but I still don't know much about this platform so I don't know how this works. On Android when I switched phone I had all my apps, contacts and stuff linked to my Google account and I've never lost a thing, how does that work here exactly?
Sorry for the dumb questions...
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If you go to my phone on windowsphone.com - and your account you will have the list of apps you installed. It might look a little painful process as not all apps and settings are going to restored by a single click. Settings - manually. Apps - one by one. Also if you had any unlocks they are gone! So all those side loading apps, won't be there. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news! But see the positive - it looks like you had a good night

drupad2drupad said:
If you go to my phone on windowsphone.com - and your account you will have the list of apps you installed. It might look a little painful process as not all apps and settings are going to restored by a single click. Settings - manually. Apps - one by one. Also if you had any unlocks they are gone! So all those side loading apps, won't be there. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news! But see the positive - it looks like you had a good night
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Thanks for the tips, I feel better already. Too bad for sideloaded apps, but that was something I expected. I only had the basic windowbreak unlock so that's not too bad. The only thing that really bothers me is that I wasn't in the mood for an upgrade at all right now, the phone worked fine and the day I've lost it I had just received my brand new case...I was already saving money for some superphone releasing in Q4. Oh well, I guess this is what you get for being a reckless fool...you're right tho, that was some real fun

vnvman said:
Thanks for the tips, I feel better already. Too bad for sideloaded apps, but that was something I expected. I only had the basic windowbreak unlock so that's not too bad. The only thing that really bothers me is that I wasn't in the mood for an upgrade at all right now, the phone worked fine and the day I've lost it I had just received my brand new case...I was already saving money for some superphone releasing in Q4. Oh well, I guess this is what you get for being a reckless fool...you're right tho, that was some real fun
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I would recommend since it's your temporary replacement, probably get some second-hand Samsung phone on which Windowsbreak works. That way you can be sideloading in no time and have some money for the super Apollo!

drupad2drupad said:
I would recommend since it's your temporary replacement, probably get some second-hand Samsung phone on which Windowsbreak works. That way you can be sideloading in no time and have some money for the super Apollo!
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I'd second that, also the LG Optimus 7 costs about 140€ here right now, that's pretty cheap for a new phone, but it has that fugly LCD...anyway a friend of mine rocking a brand new Lumia 800 (Cyan) is teasing me like hell. Maan, that phone is overpriced...I have to...resist...ugh!
I'm using my old Nokia N70 now, it owns!

vnvman said:
I'd second that, also the LG Optimus 7 costs about 140€ here right now, that's pretty cheap for a new phone, but it has that fugly LCD...anyway a friend of mine rocking a brand new Lumia 800 (Cyan) is teasing me like hell. Maan, that phone is overpriced...I have to...resist...ugh!
I'm using my old Nokia N70 now, it owns!
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Nice thing about LG is that it has a registry editor built in, so it is easy to dev unlock yourself.
Plus you can do any other tweaks, such as real instant resume and fix the blue tooth audio for video issue.
Real instant resume keeps the app in actual memory, so when you go back to it, it does not need to rehydrate. Negative of course, is that you need to make sure to back out of apps that you don't want consuming your memory.

JVH3 said:
Nice thing about LG is that it has a registry editor built in, so it is easy to dev unlock yourself.
Plus you can do any other tweaks, such as real instant resume and fix the blue tooth audio for video issue.
Real instant resume keeps the app in actual memory, so when you go back to it, it does not need to rehydrate. Negative of course, is that you need to make sure to back out of apps that you don't want consuming your memory.
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Not to mention the bad impact it has on battery life.

HTC One X potential issues?

Hey,
Im interested in purchasing a HTC One X and would like to know if there are any issues or problems with the phone, what and why should I choose this phone over competing phones?
Thanks in advance
Hyflex

Hyflex said:
Hey,
Im interested in purchasing a HTC One X and would like to know if there are any issues or problems with the phone, what and why should I choose this phone over competing phones?
Thanks in advance
Hyflex
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use search and you will find everything you need...

Hyflex said:
Hey,
Im interested in purchasing a HTC One X and would like to know if there are any issues or problems with the phone, what and why should I choose this phone over competing phones?
Thanks in advance
Hyflex
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Personally I think the One x is the best phone around at the moment and have been more than happy with my choice of mobile, for some mixed reviews have a read through this thread and post back your thoughts
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821976

matt95 said:
use search and you will find everything you need...
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I do use and did use search but was unable to find anything what sufficed my needs.
McBeaker said:
Personally I think the One x is the best phone around at the moment and have been more than happy with my choice of mobile, for some mixed reviews have a read through this thread and post back your thoughts
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That was quite a read and looks promising, I do see some posts what are a bit of a second thought but I'm not sure if they're iphone fanboys.
- GPS?
- Wi-Fi?
- Screen Flickering? (Seen this one quite a few times on the internet)
- Overheating (Seen this one a lot too)

Hyflex said:
I do use and did use search but was unable to find anything what sufficed my needs.
That was quite a read and looks promising, I do see some posts what are a bit of a second thought but I'm not sure if they're iphone fanboys.
- GPS?
- Wi-Fi?
- Screen Flickering? (Seen this one quite a few times on the internet)
- Overheating (Seen this one a lot too)
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every phone is different, someone is facing dead digitizer, someone wifi iussue (i also faced this too), i do not have overheating and sceend flickering should be gone in the newer one x thanks to ota updates

Hyflex said:
Hey,
Im interested in purchasing a HTC One X and would like to know if there are any issues or problems with the phone, what and why should I choose this phone over competing phones?
Thanks in advance
Hyflex
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Hi. I have had iphone 3gs, iphone 4, iphone 4s, galaxy s2 and now HOX and it is the best I of all those (it was kind of lousy at software at the start , laggy and awful battery) but the recent upgrades have made it super smooth and very decent battery wise. Hands down has the best screen ever, easily beating the Galaxy S3 and beating the iphone 4s by a hair (better whites IMHO). The phone is super smooth, screen is AMAZING, gps works great, is stylish.
However, make sure you can easily return your phone in case some of these show up :
- Weak wifi signal, know production issue on early batches, it is a design flaw.
- Yellow spots on screen
- Flickering on screen
I think those are the most common issues you might face. If you think a return/exchange will be difficult, I would advise you buy the SHS3 or iphone 5.

What potential issues (that has not been mentioned already on the board) would you like to have mentioned to suffice your need?
Hyflex said:
I do use and did use search but was unable to find anything what sufficed my needs.
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matt95 said:
every phone is different, someone is facing dead digitizer, someone wifi iussue (i also faced this too), i do not have overheating and sceend flickering should be gone in the newer one x thanks to ota updates
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True but with some devices there are issues what plague the entire model and I'd rather avoid phones which are bug happy.
Garoto1973 said:
Hi. I have had iphone 3gs, iphone 4, iphone 4s, galaxy s2 and now HOX and it is the best I of all those (it was kind of lousy at software at the start , laggy and awful battery) but the recent upgrades have made it super smooth and very decent battery wise. Hands down has the best screen ever, easily beating the Galaxy S3 and beating the iphone 4s by a hair (better whites IMHO). The phone is super smooth, screen is AMAZING, gps works great, is stylish.
However, make sure you can easily return your phone in case some of these show up :
- Weak wifi signal, know production issue on early batches, it is a design flaw.
- Yellow spots on screen
- Flickering on screen
I think those are the most common issues you might face. If you think a return/exchange will be difficult, I would advise you buy the SHS3 or iphone 5.
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Thank you very much for your lovely reply, the yellow spots and flickering wouldn't bother me that much but a weak-wifi would be a problem as I'd be using wi-fi a hell of a lot, however you mention it was in early batches so I would assume it wouldn't be the case in a newly purchased one but yeah warranty returns/exchanges would be fine so I could get them resolved fairly easy.
You might of just convinced me to buy a HTC One X

Hyflex said:
True but with some devices there are issues what plague the entire model and I'd rather avoid phones which are bug happy.
Thank you very much for your lovely reply, the yellow spots and flickering wouldn't bother me that much but a weak-wifi would be a problem as I'd be using wi-fi a hell of a lot, however you mention it was in early batches so I would assume it wouldn't be the case in a newly purchased one but yeah warranty returns/exchanges would be fine so I could get them resolved fairly easy.
You might of just convinced me to buy a HTC One X
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Wifi is normal, it weakens when you block the edge on top of the phone with your hand. Normally it is good
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

That's why I'm asking this question.
You will get the same answers as are already mentioned so many times.
Hyflex said:
True but with some devices there are issues what plague the entire model and I'd rather avoid phones which are bug happy.
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Laurentius26 said:
What potential issues (that has not been mentioned already on the board) would you like to have mentioned to suffice your need?
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I think all issues software wise have been fixed with the 2.17 update, the only thing that's left ,I mean if you develop the fault, is Wi-Fi signal for me it got weaker couple of metres from modem and the gap that the screen has where dust is gathering,I send it to repair , should get to repair center today, believe me or not I had 4 hoxes , all were faulty which pissed me off big time , so switched to gs3 but missed the hox after 1 month ,so I bought another one and guess what ? It has the issues mentioned above ,I like to think that I'm unlucky but I think the problems with hox are widespread and HTC should have done the descent thing and issue a recall

AboulSAM said:
Wifi is normal, it weakens when you block the edge on top of the phone with your hand. Normally it is good
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I see, I just didn't want a device with massive drop offs in wi-fi strength.
Laurentius26 said:
That's why I'm asking this question.
You will get the same answers as are already mentioned so many times.
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True, but it looks like I'm sold on the One X already.
atrako1973 said:
I think all issues software wise have been fixed with the 2.17 update, the only thing that's left ,I mean if you develop the fault, is Wi-Fi signal for me it got weaker couple of metres from modem and the gap that the screen has where dust is gathering,I send it to repair , should get to repair center today, believe me or not I had 4 hoxes , all were faulty which pissed me off big time , so switched to gs3 but missed the hox after 1 month ,so I bought another one and guess what ? It has the issues mentioned above ,I like to think that I'm unlucky but I think the problems with hox are widespread and HTC should have done the descent thing and issue a recall
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The dust issue wouldn't be a problem at all for me, if it got severe enough I'd open it up myself and clean it out. I have a few spare Void stickers laying around but yeah a lot of fixes seemed to come with the 2.17 update by a lot of peoples feedback.
My next thing to find and decide is what tablet should I get? I might try my luck with a Windows 8 RT Tablet because the ASUS Transformer TF700 (Infinity) seems to have it's only array of issues which are really really putting me off, I already had a TF201 what was fault crazy.

I personally wished that i had bought an S3/Note2/nexus-phone now, latest JB Sense roms are only available for certain devices with specific CIDs, others with CIDS not on the list will have to wait for the official update.
Screen:
Brilliant, bright, clear & solid
me:
I run at the lowest setting to save battery -_-
I have a screen protector on mines after scratches showed up, so it doesn't feel as silky smooth.
Battery:
Poor.. with careful management you can get good results but that kind of defeats the purpose of having a top end device right?
me:
I carry an external usb charger now, only viable solution for days when you need to have your phone run all day and more.
Storage:
I can live with the ~28GB usable space but who doesn't want more? microsd would be awesome.
If my phone dies (my previous desire just started having the 7 vibrate problem/dead mobo problem) there's absolutely no easy way to recover the data.
Sending it off to HTC will only result in the device getting repaired/wiped + charge for having it rooted right?
me:
dropbox sync/regular backups
..what are the benefits of rooting again?

Hyflex said:
I see, I just didn't want a device with massive drop offs in wi-fi strength.
True, but it looks like I'm sold on the One X already.
The dust issue wouldn't be a problem at all for me, if it got severe enough I'd open it up myself and clean it out. I have a few spare Void stickers laying around but yeah a lot of fixes seemed to come with the 2.17 update by a lot of peoples feedback.
My next thing to find and decide is what tablet should I get? I might try my luck with a Windows 8 RT Tablet because the ASUS Transformer TF700 (Infinity) seems to have it's only array of issues which are really really putting me off, I already had a TF201 what was fault crazy.
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I dont have wifi problems since my router is on ground level and i live on seccond flor i still have 2 solid bars without speed drops, dont have dust issues too. But if you happen to have something like that trust me you wont be opening it since ih has unibody without screews. You must unglue it wich is not easy task. All that is covered in waranty if it does happen. And jellybean comes soon to and trust me it runns lot better than on s3 . since i have acces to both phones. And for tablets i must say , dont go for windows. Android is much better and i think apps are better.

Hyflex said:
True but with some devices there are issues what plague the entire model and I'd rather avoid phones which are bug happy.
Thank you very much for your lovely reply, the yellow spots and flickering wouldn't bother me that much but a weak-wifi would be a problem as I'd be using wi-fi a hell of a lot, however you mention it was in early batches so I would assume it wouldn't be the case in a newly purchased one but yeah warranty returns/exchanges would be fine so I could get them resolved fairly easy.
You might of just convinced me to buy a HTC One X
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No problem, good luck with it! It is an amazing phone, after 6 months of having it I would say it is the best one I have ever had. It takes amazing photos too.
I have discovered one thing with Android phones, you need to work a little to get the most of them, customize them the way you like, do a little research to optimize its speed and battery, nothing out of this world but thats why I always end up recommending the iphone to my non-techie friends and family. I remember how much I hated my SGS2 at first and how I could not let go of it before I sold it!
One last piece of advise with the HOX though, do get a case for it that protect the screen edges, I dropped mine and because the glass goes to the edges it broke easily and getting a replacement screen is very time consuming!
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atrako1973 said:
I think all issues software wise have been fixed with the 2.17 update, the only thing that's left ,I mean if you develop the fault, is Wi-Fi signal for me it got weaker couple of metres from modem and the gap that the screen has where dust is gathering,I send it to repair , should get to repair center today, believe me or not I had 4 hoxes , all were faulty which pissed me off big time , so switched to gs3 but missed the hox after 1 month ,so I bought another one and guess what ? It has the issues mentioned above ,I like to think that I'm unlucky but I think the problems with hox are widespread and HTC should have done the descent thing and issue a recall
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It is a stupid design flaw, I opened mine and repaired it in 10 min (the wifi antenna needs to be lifted up a little). However, I dont recommend doing that . I did it only as a last recourse as I am out of warranty and there is no HTC service center in my country.
Apparently this has been fixed on recent batches. However looks like the old damaged batches are still plentiful and are still being sold.

kennylovesyou said:
I personally wished that i had bought an S3/Note2/nexus-phone now, latest JB Sense roms are only available for certain devices with specific CIDs, others with CIDS not on the list will have to wait for the official update.
Screen:
Brilliant, bright, clear & solid
me:
I run at the lowest setting to save battery -_-
I have a screen protector on mines after scratches showed up, so it doesn't feel as silky smooth.
Battery:
Poor.. with careful management you can get good results but that kind of defeats the purpose of having a top end device right?
me:
I carry an external usb charger now, only viable solution for days when you need to have your phone run all day and more.
Storage:
I can live with the ~28GB usable space but who doesn't want more? microsd would be awesome.
If my phone dies (my previous desire just started having the 7 vibrate problem/dead mobo problem) there's absolutely no easy way to recover the data.
Sending it off to HTC will only result in the device getting repaired/wiped + charge for having it rooted right?
me:
dropbox sync/regular backups
..what are the benefits of rooting again?
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All those points are valid kenny.
I don't have a problem with storage as I only need it for photos and a little for music, heck I'd be fine with 8GB, this is huge for me.
Keeping the screen at low brightness (even at 0%) isn't a huge deal to me because the One X's screen seems to be quite a bit brighter than say the one on iPhone 4S (I remember seeing that in a tech article/YouTube video). Which means it'll still look beautiful regardless of how low you set the brightness (and upping it a bit when exposed to direct sunlight won't be a huge deal for the battery).
As for the battery - seeing as how this charming device wants you to keep using it - it leaves a lot to be desired:
The bad:
-it's non-removable; this fact alone scares me to this day...after a year or two it might become unusable and I'm not sure I'll be able to replace it anywhere in my country
-you won't get more than 4hrs screen-on time if you keep switching the apps and menus, browse the internet or play games
-when you know that the battery will seldom last over a day if you use the phone, you'll never feel a lot like gaming, which just halves the battery life
The good:
-reading on the One X, which is simply a lovely experience at 312 dpi, is quite possible for 6 hours while making a few calls and sending a few texts, and having your battery last through the day
-the stand-by time is impressive
-phone calls and music don't seem to use up a lot of juice on this phone at all
One more thing to note is that although this phone is a beauty without a match, it is slippery as hell and without a case, you're bound to drop it sooner or later, and then it will most likely shatter. Personally, I take the case off when I'm home and hold it carefully, and put it back on when I go outside.

May I know how come no xperia play replacement?

It boggles my mind to think there has been no xperia play current. What stops other manufacturers (eg. samsung?) from making a similar phone? Is there a patent issue? license problem? there is a market for it, and technology is there.

There are replacements, made buy companies in shenzhen, china.
The most recent is the 78p01 or MUCH w1 I just bought it from aliexpress.com and it will be shipped in the coming weeks. I am excited to try it out. As the last MUCH product i bought was better than expected

I never knew that. I never check the forum for the updates. thanks for you input
I was keen on known manufacturers.

fenix8 said:
I never knew that. I never check the forum for the updates. thanks for you input
I was keen on known manufacturers.
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Much W1 / iReadyGo 78dian p01 Gaming Phone - Quic…: http://youtu.be/QvfvqGr26P4
Looks good to me.

those chinese phones look hideous. the controls sticking out and the size just ain't doing it for me. looks like a psp first generation step child. 3g only? that's worse than the 4g play.

I actually like the design. I think it is the best designed gaming phone since the xperia play. Can't wait to try it out.
I guess it is different strokes for different folks.

Yes. The design is good, but I read from another forum that this device has showed many problems. I quote the user here:
"Now that I've used the device for a few days, I regret purchasing it, here's why:
*The analogues have a huge deadzone, it doesn't feel comfortable using them
*The L shoulder button feels different to the R shoulder button. The L shoulder button feels soft and easy to press, whereas the R shoulder button clicks down and sometimes gets caught.
*The battery cover doesnt fit on properly, its missing a clip or something
*Battery life is TERRIBLE, one moment its on 50% idle, one hour later its dead (FROM NOT USING IT)
*Frequent disconnects from wifi, the internet doesnt work properly, I'm having to reboot the device to get it to run again.
*Frequent app crashes, reboots
*SD Card JUST NOW refuses to register for no reason, the device just doesn't read it anymore.
*Phone features are in chinese, with no language settings
Very disappointed with the device, it doens't help that theres also no english support for this phone, very frustrating."
I hope this issue will be resolved.

The much i5 is better than the w1 Imo, but harder to fit in your pocket. Maybe you can stick with your old xperia play.
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thanks. I am

fenix8 said:
thanks. I am
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fenix8, you have a W1? Gold bezel or chrome?

Done with the Turbo 2

Well, it was a nice device, in concept. But, after 5 replacements for various defects, I'm done. I ordered the Samsung S7. Never owned a Samsung before, but I have to assume the support is better than the new Lenovo owned Motorola. I've been a loyal Moto customer since the OG Droid in 2010. Plus, these phones are too big. I'm not a huge guy, so a screen that is hard to hold, and fit in my pocket is a non starter. Hopefully, the battery is decent on the S7, and the phone reception is good. Otherwise, I can live without some of the great Moto software features, as nifty as they are. Software isn't much use when the screen is defective, or people can't hear me talking.

I must admit when I saw the title, I thought you were gonna leave because of the lack of MM update. Sorry to hear you've had so many problems with this phone, I hope the S7 brings you good luck.

You will hate how locked down the s7 is. Should of went 6p. I sold my turbo 2 for a 6p and love it. I had 2 turbo 2's never had an issues but the battery life on my 6p is about the same and I get USB type c unlocked and a fingerprint reader so this is more of what I wanted.

Martingitdave said:
Well, it was a nice device, in concept. But, after 5 replacements for various defects, I'm done. I ordered the Samsung S7. [...]
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I had the S5 and I really miss it. I thought I would like the Turbo 2 but it hasn't lived up to any of the promises so far, except I haven't tested the toughness of the screen. My replacement Turbo 2 came in today and I'll get it setup tonight. If it fails me, I'll get the S7 Edge because of the larger battery than the regular S7.
I've only had this phone for 2 months and it's developed hardware problems. I never had a hardware problem with the S5, just some stupid lack of updates from Samsung AND Verizon. I was lured by Motorola's false advertising of 3 days of battery life. I can't get 1 day of battery life if I actually use the phone. If I leave it face down and don't touch it, I could probably get 3 days. Face up, the stupid motion sensor (that I haven't figured out how to turn off) wakes up the screen all the damn time. The battery lasts 1 day, less than a day or just over a day and a half in my experience over the last 2 months. A day and a half was with VERY minimal phone usage.
I wish you the best with the S7 and I hope it's far better than this POS.

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Face up, the stupid motion sensor (that I haven't figured out how to turn off) wakes up the screen all the damn time. T
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Start moto app, tap right top corner, actions, first option on the list...

I don't believe Verizon ever said 3 days of battery. What I saw was up to 48 hours with mixed usage.
I average almost 20 hours and 5.5 OST.
Much better than the M8 I had before it.
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Martingitdave said:
I'm not a huge guy.
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I guess the GF isn't too happy 'bout dat.......sorry, had to go there

xbxjunkie said:
I guess the GF isn't too happy 'bout dat.......sorry, had to go there
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Cute. How old are you? I'm a grown man with a family and a job.
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Cute. How old are you? I'm a grown man with a family and a job.
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me too.....boss......relax

xbxjunkie said:
I guess the GF isn't too happy 'bout dat.......sorry, had to go there
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Sadly we don't have girls (or they're really rare) here to confirm the size really matters

The 6P is a huge phone and ugly as sin. Great for updates, but if you aren't a front speaker aficionado (which I'm not) then it is just ugly and wasted space.
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I've had my Verizon turbo 2 since about 2 weeks after release and have had 0 hardware problems and haven't replaced it once. You're either really clumsy or really unlucky. People don't know how to take care of their phone and I'm assuming you're one of those people, considering you've replaced it 5 times. As far as the battery life I'm a heavy user and push 24 hrs before I'm out of battery. Learn how to train it and uninstall stuff that eats up the battery. I see so many people leave like 100 different apps open in the task manager (the built in one of course) and it kills me. They wonder why their phone is so slow or why it's always dead so quick and their too ****ing lazy to click a button and kill tasks. Anyways I'm sure you don't have the ignorance of people like that otherwise you wouldn't be browsing and posting on XDA. The only reason I would see me moving on from this phone is for root and BL unlock. I love my Roms and kernels. When I was still in school I had a gs3 that I had a new ROM on every day I came to school lol. I miss that **** but I just don't wanna go back to Samsung's mediocre feeling phones, just not a trade-off I'm willing to make. But if that's what you want, all power to you man and gl.

Believe it or not, people have been unlucky and have had hardware issues (green line issues and power button issues to name a few), consider yourself lucky.

mjones73 said:
Believe it or not, people have been unlucky and have had hardware issues (green line issues and power button issues to name a few), consider yourself lucky.
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I can attest to this, my first turbo 2 had a green line the first time I turned the phone on 2 days after release, fortunately I hadn't walked out the door yet so they swapped it out immediately. as for the power button issue, surprisingly making a seal with your mouth and blowing hard seems to dislodge whatever dust might be getting stuck and fixes the issue (found this solution online, it has worked like a charm)

This is truly unbelievable, I paid off my DT2 600.00 that I got in October. Nothing wrong with it, excellent shape. I pre ordered the s7 edge and was going to trade it in and knock down the price a little on my new one. ISYN, they only offered me 36.53 for it! I thought was a mistake so I asked several times. Looks like I will keep this one as a backup.

They always say NOT to use task killers
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just for the recordd, i think the hardware issues probably have more to do with how verizon handles. stores and ships devices cuz its nvr seemed to matter what kind of phone ive had ive always had 3-6 warranty exchanges, and we all know those dnt come brand new in the box, usually actually someone elses defect return. there arnt 10000 dt2 out there that are defective, there are 1000 and vzw has sent them to 10 people each :/

Unfortunately, the only way to have a brand new phone is to be first in line opening morning release day. And even then, that you don't receive a phone that has already been tested/used by a Verizon employee and repackaged. Fortunately, knock on wood, I have my original purchased opening morning.
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I'm sorry to hear you're having issues with your phone sir. I've had nothing but awesomeness with mine. I will admit I'm a bit disappointed in the lack of dev support for the DT2. I would love to learn how to Dev for this, but I'm way too busy with life. I left Samsung bc I got tired of the VERY SLOW AND LAGGING OS. I would've gone the Nexus route, but I've really been impressed with Lenovarola lately. I know some of you aren't but I'm having good luck.
Anyway best of luck to you on your Samsung!

Okay, had the T2 since 3 days after launch. The Green Line appeared about two months ago, got a replacement. The mic would not work unless on speakerphone. Got a replacement and now the phone all too often heats up, and I get instant battery drain. When this happens, I lose about 30% of the charge in 20 minutes... Plus, little tiny scratches on the phone screen. I have never had a screen saver on any phone, and never had a problem...

Question Google sucks !!

So coming from a Pixel 3xl and then the Pixel xl and then before that the Nexus 6 and then before that every moto phone all the way down to the og droid. Where does Google get off sending out a phone to the public that doesn't work. I've had this piece of junk now for 2 weeks and it is garbage. 1st thing right out of the gates the fingerprint scanner doesn't work but may maybe 1 in 5 trys. Why would they move it to the front. Who decided that was better. Cause it isn't. The fingerprint scanner sensors whatever they are on my previous two pixels worked fine once in awhile they didn't work they just worked this one just doesn't work. It's the most basic form of the phone it's the first thing you do when you turn the phone on. It's the first thing you do when you pick up the phone and to open it with your finger you would think that they would at the very least have that part right. Then 5G I don't know about where you are I live in Southern California, Ventura county which is just North of Los Angeles county. In every instance that I've used 5G to have 5G on my phone and I'm trying to do something on internet it is slower than 3G it's like we've taken two steps back. I have to wonder if it's like this for everybody I mean all the phones all the manufacturers I got a feeling this 5G wasn't ready yet and they just pushed it out anyway cuz they had to have the next good best thing but then work though it doesn't work. Why would Google push out a phone that just didn't work I thought the whole point of the pixel experience was that everything just worked. It didn't have to have the best specs they didn't have to have the greatest screen or the most memory. But they worked well without all those specs and screens. They worked and worked well cause they were well put together on proven hardware. Then Google brought in their software unmolested. Completely vanilla and the phone's working they worked better than the other phones that had all those high specs and lots of memories high refresh rate screens. The original Pixel XL and the Pixel 3XL they worked ? I'm starting to think that that was in spite of Google. Whoever ran their phone department put one past the bosses there and sent out some phones that just actually worked. My brand new Pro pixel 6 it doesn't work and I'm writing this on my pixel 3 xl you know why ? Cuz I'm done with it. After 2 weeks I put it in the drawer I'm done with it and it will stay there until there is some kind of major update they going to fix everything. I want nothing to do with that piece of junk. But here's the deal there's nothing else out there unless you want Samsung and I dont. I've had a plastic Samsung before I was not impressed I sent that back after about 2 weeks as well. I feel like I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place what happened to the good old days of Motorola and HTC when the phone companies were competing against each other to actually put out good product and we'd have root for these phones before even they came out. Before they even hit the streets. What happened to the good old days when they had cheesecake..I had the bionic I don't know if you guys remember the whole story with the bionic but we had we had cheesecake for it for over a year before before they finally released what 4.0 or something like that. But I think they skipped ice cream and went straight to jelly bean ( os's ) because Verizon couldn't pull their heads out of their butt in and approve the final version of the os...but Motorola was writing a new one every day and since we had cheesecake and we would take it every single night we would have a new rom just about every morning. We were overclocking our phones.. they were cracked flashing ROMs. These phones were fun I miss those days of samurai and living chaos all those guys there's a different form once you guys probably don't even know about I probably shouldn't say the name of here but it was we had them we had a thread it was probably the busiest thread on all the internet in regards to phones and it was pretty much run by a guy named samurai and he had designed some tool ( House of bionic ? ) to help you root your phone and put these new ROMs in it. Anyways the thread went sideways after a while to say the least but drama was fun and it was over these phones we all lived for these phones now it is these phones are Just junk they don't even work anymore and no one cares no one cares they justice deal with it to do a work around where to work around barely work too I'm not going to do a workaround anything either. The fingerprint scanner should just work and it doesn't.. It's so frustrating. Why did Google even send this phone out to the wild...is ridiculous they should have had the fingerprint scanner running first thing. That should have been the first priority but it's not and then they send it out to the wild with a broken feature like that ? Just seems to me like they're cutting their own throat by doing that back in the day Google would have cared today they don't care. Just get it out there start selling it make money lie to the people. . It's a crying shame what this whole community has turned into and not I'm not speaking about us I'm speaking about the equipment they're forcing us to use. We choices do we have anymore we really don't whatever happens to that phone Google is going to make where you can buy your bits and pieces and put together yourself whatever happened to that that was a good idea. It was probably too good of an idea.. but doing that that way they probably would not make amy money. The bits of pieces we provide will probably be too good in the last forever .I'm going to rant again. I'm going to stop sorry guys. Just just how I feel about things now. I'm just so very very disappointed in this phone to say the very least very disappointed..

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So coming from a Pixel 3xl and then the Pixel xl and then before that the Nexus 6 and then before that every moto phone all the way down to the og droid. Where does Google get off sending out a phone to the public that doesn't work. I've had this piece of junk now for 2 weeks and it is garbage. 1st thing right out of the gates the fingerprint scanner doesn't work but may maybe 1 in 5 trys. Why would they move it to the front. Who decided that was better. Cause it isn't. The fingerprint scanner sensors whatever they are on my previous two pixels worked fine once in awhile they didn't work they just worked this one just doesn't work. It's the most basic form of the phone it's the first thing you do when you turn the phone on. It's the first thing you do when you pick up the phone and to open it with your finger you would think that they would at the very least have that part right. Then 5G I don't know about where you are I live in Southern California, Ventura county which is just North of Los Angeles county. In every instance that I've used 5G to have 5G on my phone and I'm trying to do something on internet it is slower than 3G it's like we've taken two steps back. I have to wonder if it's like this for everybody I mean all the phones all the manufacturers I got a feeling this 5G wasn't ready yet and they just pushed it out anyway cuz they had to have the next good best thing but then work though it doesn't work. Why would Google push out a phone that just didn't work I thought the whole point of the pixel experience was that everything just worked. It didn't have to have the best specs they didn't have to have the greatest screen or the most memory. But they worked well without all those specs and screens. They worked and worked well cause they were well put together on proven hardware. Then Google brought in their software unmolested. Completely vanilla and the phone's working they worked better than the other phones that had all those high specs and lots of memories high refresh rate screens. The original Pixel XL and the Pixel 3XL they worked ? I'm starting to think that that was in spite of Google. Whoever ran their phone department put one past the bosses there and sent out some phones that just actually worked. My brand new Pro pixel 6 it doesn't work and I'm writing this on my pixel 3 xl you know why ? Cuz I'm done with it. After 2 weeks I put it in the drawer I'm done with it and it will stay there until there is some kind of major update they going to fix everything. I want nothing to do with that piece of junk. But here's the deal there's nothing else out there unless you want Samsung and I dont. I've had a plastic Samsung before I was not impressed I sent that back after about 2 weeks as well. I feel like I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place what happened to the good old days of Motorola and HTC when the phone companies were competing against each other to actually put out good product and we'd have root for these phones before even they came out. Before they even hit the streets. What happened to the good old days when they had cheesecake..I had the bionic I don't know if you guys remember the whole story with the bionic but we had we had cheesecake for it for over a year before before they finally released what 4.0 or something like that. But I think they skipped ice cream and went straight to jelly bean ( os's ) because Verizon couldn't pull their heads out of their butt in and approve the final version of the os...but Motorola was writing a new one every day and since we had cheesecake and we would take it every single night we would have a new rom just about every morning. We were overclocking our phones.. they were cracked flashing ROMs. These phones were fun I miss those days of samurai and living chaos all those guys there's a different form once you guys probably don't even know about I probably shouldn't say the name of here but it was we had them we had a thread it was probably the busiest thread on all the internet in regards to phones and it was pretty much run by a guy named samurai and he had designed some tool ( House of bionic ? ) to help you root your phone and put these new ROMs in it. Anyways the thread went sideways after a while to say the least but drama was fun and it was over these phones we all lived for these phones now it is these phones are Just junk they don't even work anymore and no one cares no one cares they justice deal with it to do a work around where to work around barely work too I'm not going to do a workaround anything either. The fingerprint scanner should just work and it doesn't.. It's so frustrating. Why did Google even send this phone out to the wild...is ridiculous they should have had the fingerprint scanner running first thing. That should have been the first priority but it's not and then they send it out to the wild with a broken feature like that ? Just seems to me like they're cutting their own throat by doing that back in the day Google would have cared today they don't care. Just get it out there start selling it make money lie to the people. . It's a crying shame what this whole community has turned into and not I'm not speaking about us I'm speaking about the equipment they're forcing us to use. We choices do we have anymore we really don't whatever happens to that phone Google is going to make where you can buy your bits and pieces and put together yourself whatever happened to that that was a good idea. It was probably too good of an idea.. but doing that that way they probably would not make amy money. The bits of pieces we provide will probably be too good in the last forever .I'm going to rant again. I'm going to stop sorry guys. Just just how I feel about things now. I'm just so very very disappointed in this phone to say the very least very disappointed..
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I've had my pixel 6 Pro since launch!! And yes I do agree with the finger print scanner. Had my share of disappoints with it but update after update it just get better... I'm on custom ROM my preference.. it's actually closer to stock with minimal tweaks added.. Also note I've had all the pixel including the nexus line and by far this is the best pixel I've used... And the 5 g problems none here I live in Canada Telus network.. everyone has their gripe!! Best thing just return it

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Bro... Samurai? You talking the Droidrzr forum that I WAS A PART OF? Dude...that was like 10 years ago...let it die...the thing is they were INNOVATIVE back then, they were creating new things that have never been tried before, and pumping out things that "could" work. We are now at the point where we just want a good screen, long lasting battery and a great camera. All of which the Pixel 6 Pro do NOT do
As the owner of the pixel 6 pro, from a LAUNCH DAY T-Mobile oneplus 6T, I am not going to lie. The 6T was faster after 3 years. I just couldn't stand the camera anymore. But my SERVICE on that phone was great. And the battery life I would squeeze 10+ hours SOT like I do basically every phone that I have anymore.
For overclocking, you realize we're pushing over 2GHZ right? Overclockimg back theb was taking an 800mhz chip and pushing it to 1Ghz. That was MONUMENTAL for such a small chip back then. But you need to google a few things before you rage over some abilities. The CPUS back then were 45+nm small!!. That's effing TINY compared to a human hair of 80,000nm! But we are at 5nm in THIS phone. That's 9 times smaller. There's only so much heat you can push through a chip, but we're also running wayyyy more complex screens, GPU's, GPS, bluetooth, everything. It's all done on one tiny chip. So there's going to be some give and take.
As for the fingerprint scanner, you gotta put the same finger in the phone at least twice and move it around, slight movements alllll around the finger and you will have a perfect scanner. Mine only fails if it is laying on the table and I try to unlock it without picking it up. But in hand? Every. Time. It works. Also? Wash your hands.
And for 5G? Fam...I get wicked stupid fast speed...the problem is if you are in an area that is congested...which it totally sounds like you are, your speeds are going to be horrific. Terrible radio aside, this is just the gamble you're in and you're losing. I recommend just switching it to 4G anyways since battery life increases by a literal hour or two just by that move andddd 4G travels further.
And did you mean "Cupcake"? Wth is cheesecake? I have been with android since Froyo, and don't remember cheesecake I could be wrong.
But my thing is reality vs. expectations piss even ME off at times, and usually it's like,"Okay...my bad...I figured for $1200 this phone would be great."
My biggest disappointment? The 50MP sensor. It's just 12mp. Just like everyyyyy other pixel. My 3a XL takes better pictures than the 6 pro. Fight me. It does. But I gave it to my mom. Are the 6 pro pictures bad? Not really. But it's not as capable as they touted it to be. And considering MY PHONE overheats anytime I try to use it really blows. But because my phone decided to crack itself in the heat one day google wants me to pay for the screen to fix their hardware BS which I refuse for the 4th time.
And Samsungs are not plastic anymore my dude...you need to get in your time machine...my girlfriend's S21 Ultra is wayyyyyy more premium feeling compared to my 6 Pro hand in hand. A better phone all around. It is faster, charges faster, takes better pictures, wayyy better video, last longer SOT, doesn't EVER get hot, charges STUPID. QUICK. He phone was at 20% and she has it capped st 85 for longevity but we started using the "fast charge" with my Easeus 100 watt cables and charger? Bro...her phone charges in 20 minutes. If that. We were BLOWN. AWAY. and it DOES NOT GET HOT. So I recommend trying then again and not letting past experiences from 7+ years ago fool you...
But yes, you're correct in some ways, they went backwards with "quality of feel" but you did get what you paid for...a phone that is overpowered with a slightly underpowered chip. But without proper thermal handover, an "overclock" would just throttle and ruin the experience more...
Sorry fam.

Oh yeah, the old Bionic days...that phone was a little tank! And then you get a forum like droidrzr where the devs and owners were all easily accessible and incredibly helpful and yeah we had a lot of fun there. The landscape has changed a lot since then (like Gytole said), and imho I think the rom scene took the worst hit when Google shut down G+. G+ was the one stop shop for roms and their devs, and when they shut G+ down everyone just kind of scattered like ants on a destroyed anthill although most of them came here. But yeah, although I am disappointed with my P6P I won't rage about how things have gotten worse because, hey, at least Google hasn't gone the Apple route and completely locked down their phones and ecosystem (yet lol) and they still do offer AOSP and we still have awesome devs around who are willing to use their time to give us our custom rom fix.

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My fingerprint scanner is about 98% accurate these days, it is very rare for it not to unlock my Pixel 6 Pro on the first attempt. that said i'd still prefer a capacitive on in the rear.

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So coming from a Pixel 3xl and then the Pixel xl and then before that the Nexus 6 and then before that every moto phone all the way down to the og droid. Where does Google get off sending out a phone to the public that doesn't work. I've had this piece of junk now for 2 weeks and it is garbage.
1st thing right out of the gates the fingerprint scanner doesn't work but may maybe 1 in 5 trys. Why would they move it to the front. Who decided that was better. Cause it isn't. The fingerprint scanner sensors whatever they are on my previous two pixels worked fine once in awhile they didn't work they just worked this one just doesn't work. It's the most basic form of the phone it's the first thing you do when you turn the phone on. It's the first thing you do when you pick up the phone and to open it with your finger you would think that they would at the very least have that part right.
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Funny you say that. It takes 1-5 times for the Fingerprint scanner to unlock the phone, but put it in you cargo pants pocket and it will open half your apps, turn Bluetooth off, DND on, and call 3 different people on your contacts list
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Then 5G I don't know about where you are I live in Southern California, Ventura county which is just North of Los Angeles county. In every instance that I've used 5G to have 5G on my phone and I'm trying to do something on internet it is slower than 3G it's like we've taken two steps back. I have to wonder if it's like this for everybody I mean all the phones all the manufacturers I got a feeling this 5G wasn't ready yet and they just pushed it out anyway cuz they had to have the next good best thing but then work though it doesn't work.
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5G is probably the carrier. You said VZW?? I had VZW, but the 5G was crap as well as the insane billing. I have T-Mobile and my 5G is fast but yeah, the radios in the P6 have been criticized from Day 1
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Why would Google push out a phone that just didn't work I thought the whole point of the pixel experience was that everything just worked. It didn't have to have the best specs they didn't have to have the greatest screen or the most memory. But they worked well without all those specs and screens. They worked and worked well cause they were well put together on proven hardware. Then Google brought in their software unmolested. Completely vanilla and the phone's working they worked better than the other phones that had all those high specs and lots of memories high refresh rate screens. The original Pixel XL and the Pixel 3XL they worked ? I'm starting to think that that was in spite of Google. Whoever ran their phone department put one past the bosses there and sent out some phones that just actually worked. My brand new Pro pixel 6 it doesn't work and I'm writing this on my pixel 3 xl you know why ? Cuz I'm done with it.
After 2 weeks I put it in the drawer I'm done with it and it will stay there until there is some kind of major update they going to fix everything. I want nothing to do with that piece of junk. But here's the deal there's nothing else out there unless you want Samsung and I dont. I've had a plastic Samsung before I was not impressed I sent that back after about 2 weeks as well. I feel like I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place what happened to the good old days of Motorola and HTC when the phone companies were competing against each other to actually put out good product and we'd have root for these phones before even they came out. Before they even hit the streets.
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I miss HTC!
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What happened to the good old days when they had cheesecake..I had the bionic I don't know if you guys remember the whole story with the bionic but we had we had cheesecake for it for over a year before before they finally released what 4.0 or something like that. But I think they skipped ice cream and went straight to jelly bean ( os's ) because Verizon couldn't pull their heads out of their butt in and approve the final version of the os...but Motorola was writing a new one every day and since we had cheesecake and we would take it every single night we would have a new rom just about every morning. We were overclocking our phones.. they were cracked flashing ROMs.
These phones were fun I miss those days of samurai and living chaos all those guys there's a different form once you guys probably don't even know about I probably shouldn't say the name of here but it was we had them we had a thread it was probably the busiest thread on all the internet in regards to phones and it was pretty much run by a guy named samurai and he had designed some tool ( House of bionic ? ) to help you root your phone and put these new ROMs in it. Anyways the thread went sideways after a while to say the least but drama was fun and it was over these phones we all lived for.
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For me, it was SDX-Developers and guys like Joey Krim who were the masterminds of early Android development, when everything was open source and amateur development was encouraged.
tombaldwin6 said:
These phones now it is these phones are Just junk they don't even work anymore and no one cares no one cares they justice deal with it to do a work around where to work around barely work too I'm not going to do a workaround anything either.
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tombaldwin6 said:
The fingerprint scanner should just work and it doesn't.. It's so frustrating. Why did Google even send this phone out to the wild...is ridiculous they should have had the fingerprint scanner running first thing. That should have been the first priority but it's not and then they send it out to the wild with a broken feature like that ? Just seems to me like they're cutting their own throat by doing that.
Back in the day Google would have cared today they don't care. Just get it out there start selling it make money, lie to the people. . It's a crying shame what this whole community has turned into and not I'm not speaking about us I'm speaking about the equipment they're forcing us to use.
We choices do we have anymore we really don't whatever happens to that phone Google is going to make where you can buy your bits and pieces and put together yourself whatever happened to that that was a good idea. It was probably too good of an idea.. but doing that that way they probably would not make amy money. The bits of pieces we provide will probably be too good in the last forever .I'm going to rant again. I'm going to stop sorry guys. Just just how I feel about things now. I'm just so very very disappointed in this phone to say the very least very disappointed..
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Did you notice the cool thing I did to your post?? They're called line breaks, It makes it easier to read without your eyes wanting to start bleeding

Man, I can't read that poop. Ever heard of paragraphs?
Want your phone to work well? Ditch the factory OS builds and install graphene.
Set it to enable fingerprint security, but NOT fingerprint UNLOCK.
You should never use biometric unlock because it isn't knowledge based and therefore not protected by your right aginst self incrimination.

Holy wall of text Batman!

Fingerprint sensor was slow on mine, but the first update I got in April, corrected that.

I totally agreed with your answer. My Problem is Solved
Have a nice day to all

HipKat said:
Funny you say that. It takes 1-5 times for the Fingerprint scanner to unlock the phone, but put it in you cargo pants pocket and it will open half your apps, turn Bluetooth off, DND on, and call 3 different people on your contacts list
5G is probably the carrier. You said VZW?? I had VZW, but the 5G was crap as well as the insane billing. I have T-Mobile and my 5G is fast but yeah, the radios in the P6 have been criticized from Day 1
I miss HTC!
For me, it was SDX-Developers and guys like Joey Krim who were the masterminds of early Android development, when everything was open source and amateur development was encouraged.
Umm English???
Did you notice the cool thing I did to your post?? They're called line breaks, It makes it easier to read without your eyes wanting to start bleeding
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You're right, I needed to put brakes in there absolutely right? I was on a tirad. I was on a rant. I'm sorry I was so frustrated with that stupid phone. But thanks all your all your points are well taken..

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You're right, I needed to put brakes in there absolutely right? I was on a tirad. I was on a rant. I'm sorry I was so frustrated with that stupid phone. But thanks all your all your points are well taken..
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It’s all good man, I could feel the rant when I was reading it. I was like, this dude is voice to texting with furious anger right now lol

Gytole said:
Bro... Samurai? You talking the Droidrzr forum that I WAS A PART OF? Dude...that was like 10 years ago...let it die...the thing is they were INNOVATIVE back then, they were creating new things that have never been tried before, and pumping out things that "could" work. We are now at the point where we just want a good screen, long lasting battery and a great camera. All of which the Pixel 6 Pro do NOT do
As the owner of the pixel 6 pro, from a LAUNCH DAY T-Mobile oneplus 6T, I am not going to lie. The 6T was faster after 3 years. I just couldn't stand the camera anymore. But my SERVICE on that phone was great. And the battery life I would squeeze 10+ hours SOT like I do basically every phone that I have anymore.
For overclocking, you realize we're pushing over 2GHZ right? Overclockimg back theb was taking an 800mhz chip and pushing it to 1Ghz. That was MONUMENTAL for such a small chip back then. But you need to google a few things before you rage over some abilities. The CPUS back then were 45+nm small!!. That's effing TINY compared to a human hair of 80,000nm! But we are at 5nm in THIS phone. That's 9 times smaller. There's only so much heat you can push through a chip, but we're also running wayyyy more complex screens, GPU's, GPS, bluetooth, everything. It's all done on one tiny chip. So there's going to be some give and take.
As for the fingerprint scanner, you gotta put the same finger in the phone at least twice and move it around, slight movements alllll around the finger and you will have a perfect scanner. Mine only fails if it is laying on the table and I try to unlock it without picking it up. But in hand? Every. Time. It works. Also? Wash your hands.
And for 5G? Fam...I get wicked stupid fast speed...the problem is if you are in an area that is congested...which it totally sounds like you are, your speeds are going to be horrific. Terrible radio aside, this is just the gamble you're in and you're losing. I recommend just switching it to 4G anyways since battery life increases by a literal hour or two just by that move andddd 4G travels further.
And did you mean "Cupcake"? Wth is cheesecake? I have been with android since Froyo, and don't remember cheesecake I could be wrong.
But my thing is reality vs. expectations piss even ME off at times, and usually it's like,"Okay...my bad...I figured for $1200 this phone would be great."
My biggest disappointment? The 50MP sensor. It's just 12mp. Just like everyyyyy other pixel. My 3a XL takes better pictures than the 6 pro. Fight me. It does. But I gave it to my mom. Are the 6 pro pictures bad? Not really. But it's not as capable as they touted it to be. And considering MY PHONE overheats anytime I try to use it really blows. But because my phone decided to crack itself in the heat one day google wants me to pay for the screen to fix their hardware BS which I refuse for the 4th time.
And Samsungs are not plastic anymore my dude...you need to get in your time machine...my girlfriend's S21 Ultra is wayyyyyy more premium feeling compared to my 6 Pro hand in hand. A better phone all around. It is faster, charges faster, takes better pictures, wayyy better video, last longer SOT, doesn't EVER get hot, charges STUPID. QUICK. He phone was at 20% and she has it capped st 85 for longevity but we started using the "fast charge" with my Easeus 100 watt cables and charger? Bro...her phone charges in 20 minutes. If that. We were BLOWN. AWAY. and it DOES NOT GET HOT. So I recommend trying then again and not letting past experiences from 7+ years ago fool you...
But yes, you're correct in some ways, they went backwards with "quality of feel" but you did get what you paid for...a phone that is overpowered with a slightly underpowered chip. But without proper thermal handover, an "overclock" would just throttle and ruin the experience more...
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Gytole said:
Bro... Samurai? You talking the Droidrzr forum that I WAS A PART OF? Dude...that was like 10 years ago...let it die...the thing is they were INNOVATIVE back then, they were creating new things that have never been tried before, and pumping out things that "could" work. We are now at the point where we just want a good screen, long lasting battery and a great camera. All of which the Pixel 6 Pro do NOT do
As the owner of the pixel 6 pro, from a LAUNCH DAY T-Mobile oneplus 6T, I am not going to lie. The 6T was faster after 3 years. I just couldn't stand the camera anymore. But my SERVICE on that phone was great. And the battery life I would squeeze 10+ hours SOT like I do basically every phone that I have anymore.
For overclocking, you realize we're pushing over 2GHZ right? Overclockimg back theb was taking an 800mhz chip and pushing it to 1Ghz. That was MONUMENTAL for such a small chip back then. But you need to google a few things before you rage over some abilities. The CPUS back then were 45+nm small!!. That's effing TINY compared to a human hair of 80,000nm! But we are at 5nm in THIS phone. That's 9 times smaller. There's only so much heat you can push through a chip, but we're also running wayyyy more complex screens, GPU's, GPS, bluetooth, everything. It's all done on one tiny chip. So there's going to be some give and take.
As for the fingerprint scanner, you gotta put the same finger in the phone at least twice and move it around, slight movements alllll around the finger and you will have a perfect scanner. Mine only fails if it is laying on the table and I try to unlock it without picking it up. But in hand? Every. Time. It works. Also? Wash your hands.
And for 5G? Fam...I get wicked stupid fast speed...the problem is if you are in an area that is congested...which it totally sounds like you are, your speeds are going to be horrific. Terrible radio aside, this is just the gamble you're in and you're losing. I recommend just switching it to 4G anyways since battery life increases by a literal hour or two just by that move andddd 4G travels further.
And did you mean "Cupcake"? Wth is cheesecake? I have been with android since Froyo, and don't remember cheesecake I could be wrong.
But my thing is reality vs. expectations piss even ME off at times, and usually it's like,"Okay...my bad...I figured for $1200 this phone would be great."
My biggest disappointment? The 50MP sensor. It's just 12mp. Just like everyyyyy other pixel. My 3a XL takes better pictures than the 6 pro. Fight me. It does. But I gave it to my mom. Are the 6 pro pictures bad? Not really. But it's not as capable as they touted it to be. And considering MY PHONE overheats anytime I try to use it really blows. But because my phone decided to crack itself in the heat one day google wants me to pay for the screen to fix their hardware BS which I refuse for the 4th time.
And Samsungs are not plastic anymore my dude...you need to get in your time machine...my girlfriend's S21 Ultra is wayyyyyy more premium feeling compared to my 6 Pro hand in hand. A better phone all around. It is faster, charges faster, takes better pictures, wayyy better video, last longer SOT, doesn't EVER get hot, charges STUPID. QUICK. He phone was at 20% and she has it capped st 85 for longevity but we started using the "fast charge" with my Easeus 100 watt cables and charger? Bro...her phone charges in 20 minutes. If that. We were BLOWN. AWAY. and it DOES NOT GET HOT. So I recommend trying then again and not letting past experiences from 7+ years ago fool you...
But yes, you're correct in some ways, they went backwards with "quality of feel" but you did get what you paid for...a phone that is overpowered with a slightly underpowered chip. But without proper thermal handover, an "overclock" would just throttle and ruin the experience more...
Sorry fam.
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Cheesecake was a tool they used to go after the Motorola servers to pull down the latest ROM every night. Motorola was rewriting the ROM for Verizon every single day and they used cheesecake to pull those rewritten ROMs off of the Motorola servers that were used to send it out to the wild on thier test phones. Something like that. That's how we had it. If you were part of it you would have remembered that. It ended on Droid razr.com. It all
started on the droidforms.net and it went to Razrforums afterwards after we got kicked off Droid forums. I was talking about the overclocking only because it was something we were doing then I'm not saying we need to do it now. My whole point about bringing up those times was because it was so much fun. Everyday was something new and the drama and then The politics of it. We had daily reports from livingchaos who had like an insider inside Motorola of it was just it was all fun. I don't know how much a part of it you were, but I was right in the middle of it. I was one of reasons it all got switched from one form to the next. I had a fight with a guy named foxcat He was a moderator on Droid forms. He said something to me. Samurai thought he said it to him and it all blew up. The next day, the whole thing that moved to Droid razr forms. Anyhow, sorry if I perturbed anybody with my rant. My my ill written rant next time I just won't..

Welcome to the 36% (https://tradingplatforms.com/blog/2...s-with-36-planning-to-switch-to-other-brands/)
I made it 4 months between January and May before I got fed up and gave my phone away. I went back to my pixel 3 xl. Just like you and I'm currectly in the market for a non-pixel phone. They have completely ruined the brand for me.
My previous phone was the nexus 6 and I still have it. I turned it on a week ago and it is so buttery smooth compared to even my pixel 3 with whatever ROM I put on it. If it wasn't for the old battery and camera I would love to switch back. It has Android 11 on it thanks to the modding community. It might support later versions but I haven't tinkered with it much lately. I'm getting off track.
I say I'm going to leave the brand but it is tough. It's all the small things that you get from Google that I'm afraid I'm going to miss. The notification of what song is playing, call screening, and call hold are all features I use regularly.
I've ordered a new phone and I'm going to test the waters. See what it is like outside of the Google ecosystem. I'm afraid but what choice has Google given me. I either try an alternatives or get stuck with an aging phone.

icanrule said:
My previous phone was the nexus 6 and I still have it. I turned it on a week ago and it is so buttery smooth compared to even my pixel 3 with whatever ROM I put on it. If it wasn't for the old battery and camera I would love to switch back. It has Android 11 on it thanks to the modding community. It might support later versions but I haven't tinkered with it much lately. I'm getting off track.
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Android 12 works well on the Nexus 6, but anything close to that recent is pretty slow on it. Battery is not hard to swap on it since unlike newer phones where you have to probably destroy the display to open up, you can just peel the back cover off of it.

icanrule said:
Welcome to the 36% (https://tradingplatforms.com/blog/2...s-with-36-planning-to-switch-to-other-brands/)
I made it 4 months between January and May before I got fed up and gave my phone away. I went back to my pixel 3 xl. Just like you and I'm currectly in the market for a non-pixel phone. They have completely ruined the brand for me.
My previous phone was the nexus 6 and I still have it. I turned it on a week ago and it is so buttery smooth compared to even my pixel 3 with whatever ROM I put on it. If it wasn't for the old battery and camera I would love to switch back. It has Android 11 on it thanks to the modding community. It might support later versions but I haven't tinkered with it much lately. I'm getting off track.
I say I'm going to leave the brand but it is tough. It's all the small things that you get from Google that I'm afraid I'm going to miss. The notification of what song is playing, call screening, and call hold are all features I use regularly.
I've ordered a new phone and I'm going to test the waters. See what it is like outside of the Google ecosystem. I'm afraid but what choice has Google given me. I either try an alternatives or get stuck with an aging phone.
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Hey I had the Nexus 6 too and loved that phone. It's been downhill since. Goodluck on your venture. I hope you find a phone that suits your needs. If you do come back here and tell us about it. I'm nearly desperate at this point....goodluck !!!

icanrule said:
Welcome to the 36% (https://tradingplatforms.com/blog/2...s-with-36-planning-to-switch-to-other-brands/)
I made it 4 months between January and May before I got fed up and gave my phone away. I went back to my pixel 3 xl. Just like you and I'm currectly in the market for a non-pixel phone. They have completely ruined the brand for me.
My previous phone was the nexus 6 and I still have it. I turned it on a week ago and it is so buttery smooth compared to even my pixel 3 with whatever ROM I put on it. If it wasn't for the old battery and camera I would love to switch back. It has Android 11 on it thanks to the modding community. It might support later versions but I haven't tinkered with it much lately. I'm getting off track.
I say I'm going to leave the brand but it is tough. It's all the small things that you get from Google that I'm afraid I'm going to miss. The notification of what song is playing, call screening, and call hold are all features I use regularly.
I've ordered a new phone and I'm going to test the waters. See what it is like outside of the Google ecosystem. I'm afraid but what choice has Google given me. I either try an alternatives or get stuck with an aging phone.
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When I had my Nexus 6, (Sitting in the drawer next to me), the last phone I could easily root and modify, a co-worker seeing it told me my phone was like a Muscle Car, and she was right. It was.

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