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So I currently have the Samsung Fascinate on verizon, and it finally running great with latest superclean, gingerbread.
But I am able to upgrade, I went to the store and at first I was not very impressed. Then went back just today, and realized someone made the fonts extra Large, and once I changed it back to normal, wow what a difference. I just thought something wrong with my eyes on that phone.
I was trying to compare the nexus to the razr and htz rezound. After trying all 3 phones for an hour I am 100% sure I don't want the rezound or razr even if they do get ICS. The main reason is I think the screen looked the best on nexus, and bigger. I just liked having more real estate, of course other big reason is it is ASOP Google which is main reason for looking at nexus.
But I was curious do your phones get hot? I noticed after playing with this nexus in the store it got very warm / to hot when I tried to make a call to see sound quality I could barely keep it on my face.
I downloaded the temperature monitor from market and it showed it at 110.
While razr and rezound was mostly cool compared to nexus. I think temp showed around 98-105
Some other concerns is I saw a thread here where getting scratched easily, I refuse to put a screen protector on, I just hate it, I have never had one on my fascinate and not one scratch. So while at the store I tried as hard to scratch with my nails, and bang it, basically doing what I can to see if anything happened, and I did not see one scratch, so I guess that is good, though not sure what happens when I put it in my front pants pocket.
I also made a call from the store and sounded really good, and person on other end said I sounded great, of course in the store I am sure the reception is great. I was curious how is the speakerphone? I use that a lot, since I am always losing my bluetooth.
I tried to it use while in the store but way too noisy to get a good feeling.
A lot of the questions you're having can be answered by watching video reviews on YouTube or reading reviews of the phone.
HTC Rezound vs. Galaxy Nexus P1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvaVZPH7Sgg
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfvUGk63o8Q
RAZR vs. Galaxy Nexus P1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVZrSYPGn-M
P2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwUQ_LhTBjc&feature=player_embedded
Engadget Review: http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/16/verizon-galaxy-nexus-review/
We already knew more-or-less what we were getting with the Verizon rendition of the Galaxy Nexus, and ultimately it delivers. Yes, battery life predictably takes a hit compared to the HSPA+ when you enable LTE, and it's safe to say this version of the phone has a bit more to love than the earlier release, but neither of those are deal-breakers. This, like the other version, is a great phone. At $300 with a two-year contract ($650 without) it is not cheap, but if you must have the best, it's well worth it.
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HSPA+: http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/24/galaxy-nexus-hspa-review/
Let's not beat around the bush. The Galaxy Nexus is definitely the best Android phone available today -- it's possibly even the best phone available today, period. Sure, it's not perfect -- we're disappointed that the camera doesn't deliver the same wow factor as the rest of the handset. It's an alright shooter, but it's just no match for the state-of-the-art. There's also room for improvement in terms of build and materials quality. Still, there's no denying the satisfying look and feel, the stunning display, the impressive performance, the excellent battery life -- the whole is far greater than the sum of its parts.
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.. and yes the phone does get hot when you play games, although it has stopped getting that hot when I started using franco kernel because the phone is being undervolted. GPU is also increased to 386 MHz (or something like that.. a boost from clock GPU). The speaker is kind of low but getting Volume+ (or flashing DSP Manager) will fix that straight up. Set volume+ to +8 and all will be good.
This is a stock Google experience and is a far better experience than what the RAZR and Rezound can offer. ICS 4.0.3/4.0.2 is simply amazing.
Thanks I already looked at all reviews...at this point in time it either the Nexus or wait to see what else will be coming out with ICS, kind of curious what will be announced at CES this week.
So razr and rezound is out, definitely not getting them even if they get ICS.
Well I wasn't even playing games, just using the browser and it got hot. So this is normal.
I have to really think about this then, I mean if it gets so hot I cannot talk on it, that might not be so good.
tannor said:
Thanks I already looked at all reviews...at this point in time it either the Nexus or wait to see what else will be coming out with ICS, kind of curious what will be announced at CES this week.
So razr and rezound is out, definitely not getting them even if they get ICS.
Well I wasn't even playing games, just using the browser and it got hot. So this is normal.
I have to really think about this then, I mean if it gets so hot I cannot talk on it, that might not be so good.
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They'll most likely be phones releasing with 2.3.7 and will say "upgradable to Ice Cream Sandwich." Previous phones release with older versions of Android, all of these phones have been planned since last quarter. They're just being announced today. With the "nexus" brand they will last for a long time with exceptional support from the dev community as well as Google themselves as it is their flagship device. All updates come directly from Google.
And my phone doesn't get hot when I'm browsing the web or anything. Only time it gets hot for me is when it's playing games like GTA III. But all of that have stopped after using a third-party kernel. I'm not sure if this is fixed with the latest update but it could be. I was on 4.0.1 when this happened, the latest ICS build is 4.0.3 now.
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They'll most likely be phones releasing with 2.3.7 and will say "upgradable to Ice Cream Sandwich." Previous phones release with older versions of Android, all of these phones have been planned since last quarter. They're just being announced today. With the "nexus" brand they will last for a long time with exceptional support from the dev community as well as Google themselves as it is their flagship device. All updates come directly from Google.
And my phone doesn't get hot when I'm browsing the web or anything. Only time it gets hot for me is when it's playing games like GTA III. But all of that have stopped after using a third-party kernel. I'm not sure if this is fixed with the latest update but it could be. I was on 4.0.1 when this happened, the latest ICS build is 4.0.3 now.
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Cool thanks for info. Yeah I am 95% sold on it..just trying to make sure. I refuse to ever buy a phone again where they say it will be upgraded to ICS at some point like razr or rezound I am sure they will get it the question is when, I was burned with Fascinate because of that.
I should have looked in the store to see what version it was running. I forgot to check.
Is 4.0.3 officially released or you put on a leaked version?
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Cool thanks for info. Yeah I am 95% sold on it..just trying to make sure. I refuse to ever buy a phone again where they say it will be upgraded to ICS at some point like razr or rezound I am sure they will get it the question is when, I was burned with Fascinate because of that.
I should have looked in the store to see what version it was running. I forgot to check.
Is 4.0.3 officially released or you put on a leaked version?
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Well Gingerbread (2.3.X) came out a long time ago. And phones said "upgradable to 2.3.X" and didn't get it until 6-7 months later. I mean you can use a custom ROM and all that but development is limited when kernels aren't open-sourced that are used for that specific Android version and blah blah blah (too technical to type out).
I've used a Samsung Vibrant, and it heavily relied on leaked Samsung builds by samfirmwares. It was getting really old.
4.0.3 is officially released on the Nexus S but the update was halted due to bugs. But I've been running 4.0.3 with custom ROMs and battery life has been amazing. I'm currently using a leaked bootloader update (PRIMEKL01) and battery life is even better with this bootloader.
4.0.3 is officially released in AOSP, so anyone can compile AOSP 4.0.3. But the latest OTA is 4.0.2 as 4.0.3 is halted (as mentioned previously). So it's not necessarily leaked in any way.
I'd personally recommend you to use custom ROMs + franco kernel. You can check the GSM/CDMA forums and view users' feedback. Idle is amazing with that kernel. If you wish to not root right away, at least unlock the bootloader first so if you change your mind. You can root it and use Titanium Backup (or any other app that does the same) and backup your stuff. Otherwise you'll lose your data when you do decide to root.
Keep in mind, I believe you should have a 14 (or 30 day) return if you are unsatisfied with the phone.
Great info and I agree they take way too long to come out with updates in general which is why I want the nexus...I was curious who controls these updates? Verizon or Google?
Meaning if google says they are ready for update it goes? Or it still has to be officially approved by verizon?
Who halted the update verizon or google?
tannor said:
Great info and I agree they take way too long to come out with updates in general which is why I want the nexus...I was curious who controls these updates? Verizon or Google?
Meaning if google says they are ready for update it goes? Or it still has to be officially approved by verizon?
Who halted the update verizon or google?
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Well there are different variants of the Galaxy Nexus. But I'm assuming since you mentioned a bunch of Verizon devices (RAZR, Rezound) that you're getting the CDMA version. CDMA version is codednamed "toro" so Google will be handling those updates. For GSM, "yakju" is handled by Google. There is a whole thread about this, but I wouldn't worry about getting updates on the Verizon network.
Google stock images: http://code.google.com/android/nexus/images.html
Edit: heres the thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1384458
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Well there are different variants of the Galaxy Nexus. But I'm assuming since you mentioned a bunch of Verizon devices (RAZR, Rezound) that you're getting the CDMA version. CDMA version is codednamed "toro" so Google will be handling those updates. For GSM, "yakju" is handled by Google. There is a whole thread about this, but I wouldn't worry about getting updates on the Verizon network.
Google stock images: http://code.google.com/android/nexus/images.html
Edit: heres the thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1384458
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Oh that is awesome did not know can get it directly from google.
nexus is a great phone, the only issue you may have is the battery life on Verizon LTE version.
although the HSPA+ (GSM) version may have adequate battery life, the LTE version is horrid when it comes to this.
its mainly a hardware issue, coupled with the 4.65 inch SAMOLED HD screen.
on extended battery, i can only get about 2 hours of on screen time before it depletes to 0%. Doesn't sound like much, and I agree. Sadly I am over my 14 day return limit and stuck with a phone with subpar battery life. Hopefully future software updates will alleviate the issue, but again, its more of hardware issue. I can see why Apple delayed their LTE phones. Qualcomm's LTE radio chips are just too power hungry.
Yes, one can just disable LTE and be on wifi. Thats an option, but I do prefer phones that work great overall out of the box.
just my .02
aohus said:
nexus is a great phone, the only issue you may have is the battery life on Verizon LTE version.
although the HSPA+ (GSM) version may have adequate battery life, the LTE version is horrid when it comes to this.
its mainly a hardware issue, coupled with the 4.65 inch SAMOLED HD screen.
on extended battery, i can only get about 2 hours of on screen time before it depletes to 0%. Doesn't sound like much, and I agree. Sadly I am over my 14 day return limit and stuck with a phone with subpar battery life. Hopefully future software updates will alleviate the issue, but again, its more of hardware issue. I can see why Apple delayed their LTE phones. Qualcomm's LTE radio chips are just too power hungry.
Yes, one can just disable LTE and be on wifi. Thats an option, but I do prefer phones that work great overall out of the box.
just my .02
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I figured the battery would be horrible..on any 4G phone, or is it just nexus.
I did not see this option in the store can you turn on 3G only if you know you going to be in an area that has no good 4G service so it does not suck up your battery?
I was looking for it cannot find it.
Personally 4G is not a huge thing for me, but a nice thing to have I guess.
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I figured the battery would be horrible..on any 4G phone, or is it just nexus.
I did not see this option in the store can you turn on 3G only if you know you going to be in an area that has no good 4G service so it does not suck up your battery?
I was looking for it cannot find it.
Personally 4G is not a huge thing for me, but a nice thing to have I guess.
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there is no 3G/4G toggle on stock ICS. You can, however, download a widget off the market place and use that as a toggle. you'd have to go to settings -> more -> mobile networks -> network mode to change it otherwise.
hopefully google/verizon will update their baseband firmware and bring better battery life. i think thats whats causing a lot of the battery performance issues on LTE.
thing is, even with good 4G signal, if you watch a youtube video in HD, you'll see the batt % dwindle very quickly. watching a 5 minute hd clip would reduce the battery life by as much as 7-10% give or take.
the saving grace with this phone is the massive support from both google and the community. its the only reason why i'm holding onto this phone over any other 4G phone at the moment.
fyi the users that chime in this subforum either have the gsm or cdma version. depending on who you talk to, the cdma user will most likely ***** more about batt life than the GSM user.
If you are going to stay on Verizon then I personally don't see any other choice Although I would still take a GS2 over the GN in hardware but damn ICS is just such a nice OS.... even when its slow.
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Thanks I already looked at all reviews...at this point in time it either the Nexus or wait to see what else will be coming out with ICS, kind of curious what will be announced at CES this week.
So razr and rezound is out, definitely not getting them even if they get ICS.
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TBH, rezound has better hardware and once it gets a sense free ICS ROM then it will probably outperform gnex. But gnex looks a lot nicer.. rezound looks like a big brick.
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TBH, rezound has better hardware and once it gets a sense free ICS ROM then it will probably outperform gnex. But gnex looks a lot nicer.. rezound looks like a big brick.
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i'm actually thinking of going rezound if the battery life on it is any better.
Battery is affected on all 4G LTE phones for the most part. So it's not just the Galaxy Nexus. With custom ROMs, and kernels they can help to bring out the most of your battery life. But definitely battery will be your biggest issue, if you disable 4G LTE... that may be a way around it and only activate it when you really need it.
Also, the Rezound doesn't have NFC capabilities. NFC will be the future, so this is something to think about if you want to make payments with your phone.
Ultimately the decision is yours, http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Verizon-Galaxy-Nexus-vs-HTC-Rezound_id2938
Google a bunch of "rezound vs galaxy nexus" posts and read them. In the end, you choose which you'd think would fit you.
Latest updates and stock Google experience: Galaxy Nexus for sure.
I'm just gonna root and use a 4G toggle and only use 4G when I'm really trying to do some fast tasks, so otherwise, wifi and 3G for basic stuff like FB should get me some decent battery life.
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i'm actually thinking of going rezound if the battery life on it is any better.
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I've had both the Rezound and the GNex and didn't think the battery life was any better on the Rezound.
I've gotten better battery life personally with my nexus compared to my brothers Rezound. Rezound was not too good for him.
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I got the Rezound when it first came out. Didn't really have any signal issues like I'm reading most 4G phones have. With that said I did have horrible battery life and usually tried keeping it in CMDA/3G mode unless I was streaming videos.
Gaming or browsing while 4G was on had my Rezound pushing temps of low 140*F...
I also had the famous buzzing issue and the "beats" aren't what they're cracked up to be. The other thing was I got tired of the Rezound looking just like my Incredible.
But the screen was amazing.
It too took awful pic's however. They looked great on screen, terrible when the file was transferred to a computer...
But I will say you don't read about any of the signal issues that you read about with the GNex.
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/06/18...ity-update-galaxy-note-ii-still-android-4-1-2
So far, impressions are that battery life is much improved in this version. I assume our devs could build a ROM for rooted AT&T devices based on this firmware.
Same changelist as the rest of the newest 4.1.2 releases. Nothing new.
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http://www.sammobile.com/2013/06/18...ity-update-galaxy-note-ii-still-android-4-1-2
So far, impressions are that battery life is much improved in this version. I assume our devs could build a ROM for rooted AT&T devices based on this firmware.
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i received an 8 mb update today through AT&T. I'll let you know if I see any changes.
RCranium666 said:
i received an 8 mb update today through AT&T. I'll let you know if I see any changes.
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Hmm, would be interesting to know what the last 4 digits of your build number in Settings->About Device are.
mzimmer88 said:
Hmm, would be interesting to know what the last 4 digits of your build number in Settings->About Device are.
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ALK7
RCranium666 said:
ALK7
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I think the update to the international devices is DME6, but I'm no dev, so I may be getting these numbers confused.
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http://www.sammobile.com/2013/06/18...ity-update-galaxy-note-ii-still-android-4-1-2
So far, impressions are that battery life is much improved in this version. I assume our devs could build a ROM for rooted AT&T devices based on this firmware.
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Battery life can get better? Geez mine is already amazing lol
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i received an 8 mb update today through AT&T. I'll let you know if I see any changes.
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Isn't alk7 old?
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Intub8 said:
Isn't alk7 old?
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Yes... if it follows the Samsung firmware/csc naming convention, A=regional code ; L=2012 ; K=Nov ; 7=version.
http://www.cpkb.org/wiki/Samsung_firmware_naming_conventions
It's the U.S. version. Btw, I just traded my gn2 for a gs4. Screen feels tiny in comparison. Then I took out my iPhone 3G and it looked enormous. It's about the same size as the l920 but has a much larger screen.
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So far, impressions are that battery life is much improved in this version. I assume our devs could build a ROM for rooted AT&T devices based on this firmware.
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You're experiencing a placebo effect, give it a few cycles and youll see true battery life
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It's the U.S. version. Btw, I just traded my gn2 for a gs4. Screen feels tiny in comparison. Then I took out my iPhone 3G and it looked enormous. It's about the same size as the l920 but has a much larger screen.
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umm...
yeah have fun with that
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You're experiencing a placebo effect, give it a few cycles and youll see true battery life
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I haven't tried the ROM since it's only out for international variants. As far as it being a placebo, I got that info from the Samsung changelog. Take that however you want.
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You're experiencing a placebo effect, give it a few cycles and youll see true battery life
umm...
yeah have fun with that
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Lol. Don't worry, I'll probably be getting a note3 when it comes out. The s4 seems a little slower than the n2, even after I rooted it.
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I haven't tried the ROM since it's only out for international variants. As far as it being a placebo, I got that info from the Samsung changelog. Take that however you want.
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I have the n7100 and it has indeed improved battery life for 4.1.2...however 4.1.1 still has the smoothest performance and best better life I have seen yet.
I know I've only had this phone a year, but I'm soon selling it as I'm buying a OnePlus One once it is up for preorder. Some of the reasons I'm selling the phone are; Poor LG updates; not so great custom ROM support, thanks to everyone that made them though; not much activity in the forums anymore and lastly, its just getting slower as Android gets newer. Maybe some of you are upgrading soon, if so what are you getting?
I've done the same upgrade as you are doing. Had the optimus g for a year and a half. Great phone however battery life is disappointing and the occasional BSOD is quite annoying so I now have the oneplus one. Great phone just bear in mind it is a huge phone (same size as the iPhone 6 bendy)
>Poor LG updates
S3 didn't even get 4.4
>not so great custom ROM support
Most popular ROMs out there are ported. They work fine and has everything you'll ever need. Personally I found no problem with ROM support.
>its just getting slower as Android gets newer
Still smooth on my phone. It's just as smooth as any flagship out there.
Unless you're running a nuclear powerplant on your phone I wouldn't say it's "slow"
Well the oneplus one wins it all round for me, 64gb internal is great. Battery life is meh as @etalocohc pointed out. Also, the camera isn't so good. Its been a rollercoaster.
Maybe you are right, but Optimus G is lot older and cheaper device. Wouldn't say LG updates are poor, stock firmware is great, and they put KitKat on device from end of 2012 which is nice. I can agree with Custom ROMs, they aren't great and not really much for e975, i think there are more ROMs for USA editions of LGOG. Battery life can be decent with good kernel, my phone goes down with voltage to -137,5 which is really good, better battery life and lower heating.
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Maybe you are right, but Optimus G is lot older and cheaper device. Wouldn't say LG updates are poor, stock firmware is great, and they put KitKat on device from end of 2012 which is nice. I can agree with Custom ROMs, they aren't great and not really much for e975, i think there are more ROMs for USA editions of LGOG. Battery life can be decent with good kernel, my phone goes down with voltage to -137,5 which is really good, better battery life and lower heating.
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I think most OEMs are supposed to update their phones or at least flagships for at least 2 years. Check your DMs, I asked a question .
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>Poor LG updates
S3 didn't even get 4.4
>not so great custom ROM support
Most popular ROMs out there are ported. They work fine and has everything you'll ever need. Personally I found no problem with ROM support.
>its just getting slower as Android gets newer
Still smooth on my phone. It's just as smooth as any flagship out there.
Unless you're running a nuclear powerplant on your phone I wouldn't say it's "slow"
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Yes but ROM support sucks, not to bash on devs or anything, but most of the time ROMs are left half working, are then abandoned and another ROMs project starts. Also Gee sources which are used for a lot of ROMs on this device are just not the best I've seen.
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Yes but ROM support sucks, not to bash on devs or anything, but most of the time ROMs are left half working, are then abandoned and another ROMs project starts. Also Gee sources which are used for a lot of ROMs on this device are just not the best I've seen.
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At least now Faust93 has ported the kk camera driver. Fantastic progress which means gee ROMs can finally qualify as a daily driver.
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At least now Faust93 has ported the kk camera driver. Fantastic progress which means gee ROMs can finally qualify as a daily driver.
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There's still the thermald.conf file issue for me, i dont want my phone to be a mobile oven :V
Yeah, maybe in some months I will try to find some excuses to change my G phone, for now I'm happy and KK update was fantastic for me.
Most probably I will stay with LG, regarding One Plus One, I don't like the phone size and I will more time to see their hardware quality.
Got my invite tonight and ordering it later
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>Poor LG updates
S3 didn't even get 4.4
>not so great custom ROM support
Most popular ROMs out there are ported. They work fine and has everything you'll ever need. Personally I found no problem with ROM support.
>its just getting slower as Android gets newer
Still smooth on my phone. It's just as smooth as any flagship out there.
Unless you're running a nuclear powerplant on your phone I wouldn't say it's "slow"
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Please compare the G with devices from same time (s3) !
We have all roms u need and i think there are much not here at xda! Chineese dont often use xda because they cant english and are not interested!
And its great to see that one rom works for many models (f180, e970, ls 970..)
Yea one point: i think our g/device trees can more when we have better support with the right devs (we have good devs! They can build roms and fix errors and im happy! But i think device tree has more potential)
Battery life is for me great, i dont belive on wonders and see it in comparison with other devices!
I love my G and i will buy/replace backcover instead to buy a new phone! Theres no different.. I also can replace battery, no problem...
Camerais good! But my backcover has scratches and thats ehy quality awful and high senitivity by lights...
Opo is for me to big!
And hey, we have kitkat, its newest os! 4.4.2. 4.4.4 update makes no sense.. Find differents!
Only one i hate on lg: dont know if we can see g3 ui in future and we have no knockOn or knockCode! Lowend devices are on 4.2.1 but became update in that time with the knockon feature while we have waited for kitkat
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Well, it's a bit sad that I am putting my OG up for sale... I love this phone, but a great deal on a G2 was too good to pass, so I am moving on. All of you that are still using an OG, or considering getting one -- have fun and enjoy it, this puppy has plenty of life left in it, and it's still an awesome device today.
Thank you all who helped me along the way, the community support here on XDA is great!
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Well, it's a bit sad that I am putting my OG up for sale... I love this phone, but a great deal on a G2 was too good to pass, so I am moving on. All of you that are still using an OG, or considering getting one -- have fun and enjoy it, this puppy has plenty of life left in it, and it's still an awesome device today.
Thank you all who helped me along the way, the community support here on XDA is great!
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Oh, G2 has silly problems. I hope you won't regret. But, wish you the best anyway
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Oh, G2 has silly problems. I hope you won't regret. But, wish you the best anyway
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I know this is an offtopic here, but I am wondering if you have any pointers to such problems. I haven't perused G2 forums yet, but definitely planning to do it. I am not planning to do any heavy modding; still, would be interested to know what to look out for...
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I know this is an offtopic here, but I am wondering if you have any pointers to such problems. I haven't perused G2 forums yet, but definitely planning to do it. I am not planning to do any heavy modding; still, would be interested to know what to look out for...
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Well, first of all a little signal issue, then something like BIOS battery problem! I mean if you turn the device off at night your settings will reset! Even if you don't turn it off, in the morning you notice it's not silent while you'd switched to silent mode.
Camera lens cover is aweful in quality which will heck your picture quality up. Battery life on kitkat is at least 20 percent worse than JB. Screen has two types which requires two types of kernel. Poor build quality comparing with OG. Risky to put in pocket. Screen yellow tint in many cases when it gets hot. And some other problems that I don't remember now. Oh the soft buttons. They are a real pain. You can't hide them and they are always present in every apps and games.
Even with a OnePlus One, I'll sorely miss my G, with so little amount of people in this forum, its such a tight community which I love. I'll still be around for help, just won't be able to test unless I keep my G alongside my One, still considering it .
Tapped from some sexy bacon goodness (OnePlus One)
I currently have a nexus 5 and I'm looking to upgrade. The G4 looks like a great option as it have more RAM better processor, better screen and mainly an SD SLOT!!!! I currently am getting by with 16GB which is then around 10GB usuable. My question is is this phone worth getting considering I would like a custom ROM. I'd be happy with CM12 but there doesn't look like much support, I can get this phone pretty cheap but I'm not sure as the support just doesn't seem to be here. Anyone with this phone got any advice? Look elsewhere or buy it?
cyberdude020 said:
I currently have a nexus 5 and I'm looking to upgrade. The G4 looks like a great option as it have more RAM better processor, better screen and mainly an SD SLOT!!!! I currently am getting by with 16GB which is then around 10GB usuable. My question is is this phone worth getting considering I would like a custom ROM. I'd be happy with CM12 but there doesn't look like much support, I can get this phone pretty cheap but I'm not sure as the support just doesn't seem to be here. Anyone with this phone got any advice? Look elsewhere or buy it?
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I recently switched to the G4 (H811) from the S6 Edge back in October. I would consider it a good upgrade. The official CM updates are already rolled out and I've been using it as a daily driver even through the buggy (not complaining) Alpha and Beta stages. As a lot of other users have already stated, most of us considered the stock ROM good enough, especially with Marshmallow rolling out pretty soon. The only reason I switched to CM 12.1 was for the near stock look and the lag in the stock ROM. I've heard good things about the CTT MOD, eliminating lag involving thermal throttling. I used MicroMod777's debloated stock ROM. It ran smoother than stock in my experience. I'll be happy to answer anymore questions you have, given my experience with the device.
[T-MOB H811/ INT H815] [Nightly] Cyanogenmod 12.1
CTT Mod for the G4 eliminates lag and more (10/16)
[ROM] G4 H811 10N Stock, Debloated, Rooted ROM's + Mods
KingofPineCones said:
I recently switched to the G4 (H811) from the S6 Edge back in October. I would consider it a good upgrade. The official CM updates are already rolled out and I've been using it as a daily driver even through the buggy (not complaining) Alpha and Beta stages. As a lot of other users have already stated, most of us considered the stock ROM good enough, especially with Marshmallow rolling out pretty soon. The only reason I switched to CM 12.1 was for the near stock look and the lag in the stock ROM. I've heard good things about the CTT MOD, eliminating lag involving thermal throttling. I used MicroMod777's debloated stock ROM. It ran smoother than stock in my experience. I'll be happy to answer anymore questions you have, given my experience with the device.
[T-MOB H811/ INT H815] [Nightly] Cyanogenmod 12.1
CTT Mod for the G4 eliminates lag and more (10/16)
[ROM] G4 H811 10N Stock, Debloated, Rooted ROM's + Mods
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Thanks a lot. I really like this phone however I don't like stock. I am happy with CM12 though as it has all the features I use. How stable is CM? Are the bugs ironed out now? How is battery life and heat issues? What type of lag is it? Scrolling lag or gaming? I saw the mod but didn't read too much into it, also is over clocking an option via kernels?
Thank again for answering my questions, it will save me a lot of time searching the forums
cyberdude020 said:
Thanks a lot. I really like this phone however I don't like stock. I am happy with CM12 though as it has all the features I use. How stable is CM? Are the bugs ironed out now? How is battery life and heat issues? What type of lag is it? Scrolling lag or gaming? I saw the mod but didn't read too much into it, also is over clocking an option via kernels?
Thank again for answering my questions, it will save me a lot of time searching the forums
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CM is pretty stable so far, good enough for a daily driver. Trebuchet crashes every now and then and I've noticed some issues with the camera (besides the actual camera app, that's just AOSP camera in general). I'm not complaining, nor rushing the devs, but it's easily usable as a daily driver. To sum it up, bugs are present, but not bad. Battery life is iffy, I can get through an entire day with 2 batteries and sometimes a charge. I'd say it's around 3 hours SOT. Heat issues are way worse on the stock ROM, nothing too bad so far on CM. Lag on CM is little things like scrolling or keyboard animations, and apps crashing now and then. I haven't tried much gaming. Over clocking is possible.
if you guys use CM custom rom, which app use for camera? is the CM camera apps as good as stock to use all features of the G4 camera? or you don't care about photos, you just need other features covered by CM rom?
cyberdude020 said:
I currently have a nexus 5 and I'm looking to upgrade. The G4 looks like a great option as it have more RAM better processor, better screen and mainly an SD SLOT!!!! I currently am getting by with 16GB which is then around 10GB usuable. My question is is this phone worth getting considering I would like a custom ROM. I'd be happy with CM12 but there doesn't look like much support, I can get this phone pretty cheap but I'm not sure as the support just doesn't seem to be here. Anyone with this phone got any advice? Look elsewhere or buy it?
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I think the issue is because of the bootloader and the fact that there are only 2 variants which is can be unlocked on.
I know CandySix is coming to the G4 though :good:
donkanmcklaus said:
if you guys use CM custom rom, which app use for camera? is the CM camera apps as good as stock to use all features of the G4 camera? or you don't care about photos, you just need other features covered by CM rom?
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The other features are worth losing the camera. It's still great for regular pictures but don't expect a DSLR replacement. They're still working on getting the G4 Camera ported to the ROM.
donkanmcklaus said:
is the CM camera apps as good as stock to use all features of the G4 camera?
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you can use other 3rd party camera apps but you lose some features like night shot which is used by front camera as well.
also shutter time will not be more than 0.5s, stock goes up to 30s.
Its not clear to me how CM will make use of the colour sensor and laser AF. Are shots as quick to take, are they as clear.
Low light on auto ? this is buggy right now from the few samples i saw.
Whether unlocking bootloader automatically disables these features is not clear. Because if it does then its a one way process. You lose it forever.
or you don't care about photos, you just need other features covered by CM rom?
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exactly
So much easier to just get a nexus isn't it.
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KingofPineCones said:
Battery life is iffy, I can get through an entire day with 2 batteries and sometimes a charge. I'd say it's around 3 hours SOT.
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You get 3h sot on cm or stock ?
regardless you should be getting more, on stock.
3-4h on data, 4-5h on wifi. If your brightness is 25% you can add an extra hour in there. This is normal with stock and greenify.
If you can't get that then you need a reset.
I've seen very little to no benefits accruing to battery life by rooting, roms or exposed. if you must go down that route its about features.
One Twelve said:
You get 3h sot on cm or stock ?
regardless you should be getting more, on stock.
3-4h on data, 4-5h on wifi. If your brightness is 25% you can add an extra hour in there. This is normal with stock and greenify.
If you can't get that then you need a reset.
I've seen very little to no benefits accruing to battery life by rooting, roms or exposed. if you must go down that route its about features.
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3h SOT on CM, less on stock. That's with greenify and screen at around 30% brightness. I'm not going to complain to CM development for those numbers, but I'll try one of the debloated stock ROMs and report back after a few days. Thanks for the advice.
the ROMS are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/development
next time use search or better thread title.
paratox said:
the ROMS are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/development
next time use search or better thread title.
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Looks like a ghost town to me. Compare that forum to the equivalent G3 forum, even at the current date in 2014, and it was way more lively.
With every passing day it looks more and more like the G4 has been abandoned. I guess you can't blame the devs, LG are being pricks about the bootloader.
paratox said:
the ROMS are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/development
next time use search or better thread title.
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Pretty clear there is not much to choose from and even then they seem to have bugs. This was a genuine question no need to be cocky although I'm sure it makes you feel superior.
Thanks a lot guys, it was basically a choice between the G4 or a Sony Z5 both have little support, obviously the Z5 has only just been released so it's to be expected. I'm just a little disappointed as the G4 seemed so perfect for me hardware wise vs price, plus the fact the G4 uses the 808 as opposed to the 810 which has overheating problems. The Moto X pure is looking like a possibility for this reason now. I tend to keep my phones fairly long so I need something quite stable. I think I will hold off for now until support for the phones I'm interested in grows, unless I see something really cheap in the black Friday sales
Thank you for your help everyone, I appreciate it!!
cyberdude020 said:
Thanks a lot guys, it was basically a choice between the G4 or a Sony Z5 both have little support, obviously the Z5 has only just been released so it's to be expected. I'm just a little disappointed as the G4 seemed so perfect for me hardware wise vs price, plus the fact the G4 uses the 808 as opposed to the 810 which has overheating problems. The Moto X pure is looking like a possibility for this reason now. I tend to keep my phones fairly long so I need something quite stable. I think I will hold off for now until support for the phones I'm interested in grows, unless I see something really cheap in the black Friday sales
Thank you for your help everyone, I appreciate it!!
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I'm in the exact same boat man, G4 looks like the perfect phone in terms of hardware but the software situation is just depressing. We'll see how things pan out once Marshmallow has made it to all G4s, but if thing don't pick up I'll have to look elsewhere.
dogroll said:
I'm in the exact same boat man, G4 looks like the perfect phone in terms of hardware but the software situation is just depressing. We'll see how things pan out once Marshmallow has made it to all G4s, but if thing don't pick up I'll have to look elsewhere.
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The Moto X pure has very similar hardware to the G4, if it's within your budget I'd suggest looking there once the phone has been out awhile and gained support.
KingofPineCones said:
3h SOT on CM, less on stock. That's with greenify and screen at around 30% brightness.
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What's is your usage like ? if its heavy then i don't think you can do better.
I'm not going to complain to CM development for those numbers, but I'll try one of the debloated stock ROMs and report back after a few days. Thanks for the advice.
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if you can't get those figures in stock then Cm can't do more.
debloated if you have a carrier rom, its not necessary otherwise.
How long you had the device ?
People that can't get beyond 3h sot need a reset. something is running more than it needs to. a reset fixes it. dont just do a plain restore after, install apps in small batches and monitor.
One Twelve said:
What's is your usage like ? if its heavy then i don't think you can do better.
if you can't get those figures in stock then Cm can't do more.
debloated if you have a carrier rom, its not necessary otherwise.
How long you had the device ?
People that can't get beyond 3h sot need a reset. something is running more than it needs to. a reset fixes it. dont just do a plain restore after, install apps in small batches and monitor.
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Heavy usage. I got better in CM than stock. I've had the T-Mobile G4 since around late September. And yes, I need the debloated ROM because my stock H811 ROM is the carrier one. I've also noticed less lag on it with animations, particularly the keyboard pop-up ones.
KingofPineCones said:
Heavy usage.
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Ah, then 3-4hrs of sot is normal.
was testing with youtube and speakers on max. 1 hr of youtube eats up around 27%. 3hrs of youtube like that and its recharge time.
With bluetooth it drops to 20%. Must be some more savings with wired speakers.
with screen off and just podcasts its 10%/hour.
So far the heaviest usage is recoding with 4k. Do that for 90 minutes and the battery is flat.
I got better in CM than stock. I've had the T-Mobile G4 since around late September. And yes, I need the debloated ROM because my stock H811 ROM is the carrier one. I've also noticed less lag on it with animations, particularly the keyboard pop-up ones.
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How long is your standby ?
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How long is your standby ?
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I'm actually not sure, I'm almost always using it. It drains around 10% over night (about 7 hours) if I forget to plug it in. That's on the CM ROM.
Bootloader is still annyoing to unlock for most models/ not possible, also this phone has so many different models.
On top of that we got from Lolipop to MM quite fast which may also be a reason for the lack of roms.
If I'd be a Dev I'd rather not put too much effort in Lolipop roms for the G4 if MM is right around the corner.
Dunno maybe it will get better now
Ok, so I hate asking this question but I need to update from my S4 because I want a better camera, and faster CPU so I can't try the roms directly
I am looking at the Note 4 or Galaxy S5. Unfortunately the S5 looks like it has more active support, but I really want a Note 4 because of the better hardware (basically everything, UHS Storage, more RAM, CPU, bigger battery, Optical Stabilization...)
What ROMs are you all running as a daily driver? I've been searching and it doesn't look like there are a ton of super stable ROM's in active support like with the S5
I prefer AOSP but stability is most important to me (having a fully functional phone). My least favorite thing in the world is when my GPS stops working right when I need to take a turn in chaotic traffic
investinwaffles said:
Ok, so I hate asking this question but I need to update from my S4 because I want a better camera, and faster CPU so I can't try the roms directly
I am looking at the Note 4 or Galaxy S5. Unfortunately the S5 looks like it has more active support, but I really want a Note 4 because of the better hardware (basically everything, UHS Storage, more RAM, CPU, bigger battery, Optical Stabilization...)
What ROMs are you all running as a daily driver? I've been searching and it doesn't look like there are a ton of super stable ROM's in active support like with the S5
I prefer AOSP but stability is most important to me (having a fully functional phone). My least favorite thing in the world is when my GPS stops working right when I need to take a turn in chaotic traffic
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I ain't gonna get into a whole Rom comparison story, again. But i will state this. The N4 is an awesome phone, straight up, nothing compares to it. I just bought another one. But as it is aging, development on it is slowing down, But there are a handful of great devs still here with amazing work. I use to also like aosp for its lean state but i would have to say touchwiz is less error prone. Only my opinion though!
I can't compare it with the s5 development , never looked there.
Came from a s5... No regrets.
Note 4 is superior.
Thanks for responding fellas.
Are you both running the stock Samsung firmware??
I dont know if I can handle TouchWiz, but at the same time I don't think I can give up the Note 4 hardware (over the s5).
I think I'm going to pick one up and play with it. If none of the AOSP roms is stable enough for me, I'll stick with a model TouchWiz rom or go back to stock. I'll update this when I figure out that part!
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Well shoot - I managed to snag an S5 for $60 on ebay - sight un-seen. From one of those larger used phone re-sellers
Probably half as cheap but I am going to sorely miss OSS from the Note 4, increased battery, quick charge, and UHS storage. I figure I can sell my S4 off, and upgrade to a Note 4 in the future.
Good news is that Lineage OS is officially supported on the Sprint S5, ASOP is a huge reason that I love Android (and kind of loathe Samsung)
I have a Sprint Note 4 for sale for $150. Combined with the OBAR Rom and a ZeroLemon 10,000 mah battery this phone is a tank. Mine just ate dirt after I updated it to 6.0.1. DO NOT UPDATE. Two days after the update I got EMMC error (Nand died) and now anyone else I speak to about the 6.0.1 update killed their phone. I bought two Note 4's and put OBAR back on it. No issues and everything runs fast and smooth.
TheGame7 said:
I have a Sprint Note 4 for sale for $150. Combined with the OBAR Rom and a ZeroLemon 10,000 mah battery this phone is a tank. Mine just ate dirt after I updated it to 6.0.1. DO NOT UPDATE. Two days after the update I got EMMC error (Nand died) and now anyone else I speak to about the 6.0.1 update killed their phone. I bought two Note 4's and put OBAR back on it. No issues and everything runs fast and smooth.
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Hell I have updated, and down graded my phone numerous times, and phone still rock solid.. I went back to 5.1.1 because it is faster, battery life can't be beat, plus you do not have to give permission each time you install a app.. Also I can get rid of all Sprint bloat ware without using a 3rd party app. I also like the square icons rather than the rounded, and the icon size is perfect.
doubledragon5 said:
Hell I have updated, and down graded my phone numerous times, and phone still rock solid.. I went back to 5.1.1 because it is faster, battery life can't be beat, plus you do not have to give permission each time you install a app.. Also I can get rid of all Sprint bloat ware without using a 3rd party app. I also like the square icons rather than the rounded, and the icon size is perfect.
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Preach doubledragon :laugh:
yea im still rocking my note 4 on 5.1.1
and i jus cant seem to be happy with 6.0 yet ughh but far as OP man there are great roms to make you like it
Im currently running the rom in my signature with xposed too
but you will love the N4 :fingers-crossed:
Tha_Dynasty2049 said:
Preach doubledragon :laugh:
yea im still rocking my note 4 on 5.1.1
and i jus cant seem to be happy with 6.0 yet ughh but far as OP man there are great roms to make you like it
Im currently running the rom in my signature with xposed too
but you will love the N4 :fingers-crossed:
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Asked in another thread, hoping tha can help with this....
Have modembase pg1 with mm.
Tha_Dynasty.... Thoughts on if heading over to hybrid 3.0 will have an impact on signal reliability?
Came from s5 and I keep getting dropped signals... In places where I didn't have an issue before.
Tha... Any thoughts?
mrtomaso said:
Asked in another thread, hoping tha can help with this....
Have modembase pg1 with mm.
Tha_Dynasty.... Thoughts on if heading over to hybrid 3.0 will have an impact on signal reliability?
Came from s5 and I keep getting dropped signals... In places where I didn't have an issue before.
Tha... Any thoughts?
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I don't use sprint service myself but a few people I talk to seem to like PK1 or QC1 !
mrtomaso said:
Asked in another thread, hoping tha can help with this....
Have modembase pg1 with mm.
Tha_Dynasty.... Thoughts on if heading over to hybrid 3.0 will have an impact on signal reliability?
Came from s5 and I keep getting dropped signals... In places where I didn't have an issue before.
Tha... Any thoughts?
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Well PG1 is MM (6.0) so if you wanna stay on it id look for a MM rom
how ever Hybrid 3.0 is LP (5.1) and yes my signal is much better on 5.1 than 6.0 but each phone is different
but for me hybrid is perfect no random reboots and been using it as a daily driver for a lil more than a full year
and it plays nice with xposed... can help if you need it.
the op will have the necessary steps to revert back to 5.1 if need be :good:
Tha_Dynasty2049 said:
Well PG1 is MM (6.0) so if you wanna stay on it id look for a MM rom
how ever Hybrid 3.0 is LP (5.1) and yes my signal is much better on 5.1 than 6.0 but each phone is different
but for me hybrid is perfect no random reboots and been using it as a daily driver for a lil more than a full year
and it plays nice with xposed... can help if you need it.
the op will have the necessary steps to revert back to 5.1 if need be :good:
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Awesome... Looking forward to heading back to lollipop. Downloading the 2gb base now. Only source I found has a paywall in place , slow going.
Tha_Dynasty2049 said:
but for me hybrid is perfect no random reboots and been using it as a daily driver for a lil more than a full year
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Wow...
This blows away my expectations. Better signal, smooth as butter and everything works!
Thanks for your help!
mrtomaso said:
Wow...
This blows away my expectations. Better signal, smooth as butter and everything works!
Thanks for your help!
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glad it worked out for you
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Im running the ultimate note 7 hybrid Rom 6.1
Lately it's been seeming sluggish
You all still think 5.1 is fastest or most stable combination?
peterl23451 said:
Im running the ultimate note 7 hybrid Rom 6.1
Lately it's been seeming sluggish
You all still think 5.1 is fastest or most stable combination?
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I went back to 5.1 again , sfter trying 6.0, and not going back. Next step will sell phone.
peterl23451 said:
Im running the ultimate note 7 hybrid Rom 6.1
Lately it's been seeming sluggish
You all still think 5.1 is fastest or most stable combination?
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I was on 6 with my Note 4 and Note edge. I cant downgrade from Marshmallow on the Edge, so I went back to the 4 since you go all the way back to kit kat. Note 4 + 5.1.1 + Hybrid Rom + xposed = happiness