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Here's the scenario.
I have my blueangel in my pocket.
It's off and the button lock is engaged so that it wont turn itself on accidentally. There's nothing I hate more than when it switches itself on in my pocket and goes berserk with random screen input.
My bluetooth headset is connected.
(I'm not even gonna start on how appaling the blue tooth on the blue angel is !!!!!, but that aside.....)
The phone rings and I press the answer buton on my headset to answer it.
The damn phone is now on in my pocket and the screen is active and receiving input during the call. Quite apart from anything else, there is a great big red END CALL button on the screen just waiting to be touched.
Assuming the call survives any problems, at the end of the call I have to get the phone out of my pocket to turn it off again because it wont turn itself off unless the activity timeout occurs which is not going to happen if the screen is being brused by anything in my pocket.
Is there some configuration or tool or utility or something that can detect when the phone is in handfree mode and disable screen input unless a certain button is pressed (like the green phone buton) and then switch the phone off again when the call is terminated ?
http://www.trancreative.com/nicestart.aspx
Have a look at this.
Im using it, and its the one that does the job best of them all out there, well in my opinion anyway
What about a case?
I had an alu one... no problem!
OK. I got NiceStart and had a play with it.
I think I have got it configured to work OK now.
Seems to solve most of the issues I raised.
I can't believe I had to get extra software to do that though.
I mean, it's not as if any of those probelms are either unforseeable or hard to solve.
It makes you wonder if the people who design these devices ever actually use them for real for any length of time.
The worst thing about it, is that i can buy a 1$ phone with a locking thats even better than this.
People have been screaming about this since the birth of WM, but M$ dont seem to be hearing this.
I have set Start->Settings->System->Button Lock-> Lock all ........power Button
Set a 4 digit password in NiceStart and mapped it to the 4 action buttons right under the screen.
Works great, but the screen will from time to time light up (M$ thing that it must do) to check the battery status. This cant be stopped in any way.
Hello,
I recently recieved a Dash from T-Mobile with WM6 Standard. 1 annoying thing I've noticed is that although the phone's keypad is locked, while reaching for the phone in the pouch, I've accidentally answered calls that I didn't want to . I wish there was a way that required a combination of at least 2 keys be pressed in a certain order before the call would be answered. This would be similar to unlocking the keypad. I could also prevent unknowingly answering a call if the ringer was on silent.
Wow, many views, no solution??
Im not sure about your phone, but you might want to disable any key answer
For my phone ( tornado ), its under settings, phone, call options
Hello karhoe,
Thanks for the suggestion, however that option is already disabled. The problem is that when the phone is in the case or in my pocket, the Answer Key can easily be activiated by the slightest touch which is not good. I'm suprised that more people haven't responded with the same issue.
Yes it happened to me a couple of days ago, quite annoying. The phone was just in my pocket and it rang. Reached in to pull the phone out, and apparently I had inadvertantly touched the softkey that answers the phone, before I could check the caller ID
Well there is no app that I know of that makes you have to press 2 or more keys to answer the phone. And that is what you would need, a 3rd party app.
It would be kind of dangerous or even more annoying under certain circumstances like driving. But if you had 2 different lock options, one normal the other for the 2 button answer, that would be cool. Very cool indeed.
But it does'nt always happen, I think it's happened only twice. Usually the phone is not in my pocket or on me in a holster, because I want to keep the radiation away from my body, so it's usually on my desk or sitting in the car if I am driving. In-between those times it is on me.
I'm afraid this applies to any phone of the Candy Bar type. Happened to me quite often to answer a call while reaching for the phone (S620 and S710 ans some other Nokias). Flip phones are much better for that. You got to open the phone to answer a call and you can still check the caller on the outside display before opening it.
You're right, a third party app setting a two level answer mode would be great, although don't know if this can be done, where the core of the phone handles the answering alone preventing any developer to set up an "answering sequence". Good idea anyway, curious to check on this one.
Ka.
Thanks for the replies. I'm still optimiistic that SOMEone out there may have a solution!
Sorry can't resist - If its someone you don't want to talk to, pretend you're on ATT and drop the call
I haven't had a problem. I use this case
http://www.krusell.se/product.php?productID=576&category=5
@jamssx: lol
@timothyjok: thx for the suggestion, I've looked at that case before, but was trying to remain positive that someon may have software solution. sigh...
From http://www.shipiboconibo.com/dash/#callreject :
Disable Accidental Call Rejection
Have you ever recieved a call and as you pull your Dash out of your pocket it says 'Call rejected'? I have, and it annoys the hell out of me! I derived this hack from a hack telling how to enable this feature, but mine was enabled by default so I am going to assume the original hack was intended for the Excalibur and T-Mobile decided to enable the feature on their phones. By default (can anyone else verify this is default on the Dash?) simply touching the JOGGR strip on the Dash during an incomming call will reject the call. I hate this and here is how you can disable it!
\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\JogBar\Settings\EnableRejectCallFunc = 0
As you probably guessed, this is a binary value, setting it to 0 disables it, 1 enables it.
Any way to stop this.. I used the registry to stop it from waking up due to my magnetic case.. i have the notifications to make a noise and flash the led... i dont want it to come out of standby to tell me about an upcoming appt (the dismiss/snooze notice) cause i keep pocket running apps or pocket dialing my sense 2.5 front shortcuts!
ANY HELP would be greatly appreciated!
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Any way to stop this.. I used the registry to stop it from waking up due to my magnetic case.. i have the notifications to make a noise and flash the led... i dont want it to come out of standby to tell me about an upcoming appt (the dismiss/snooze notice) cause i keep pocket running apps or pocket dialing my sense 2.5 front shortcuts!
ANY HELP would be greatly appreciated!
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Try this: Start > Settings > Sounds & Notifications > Notifications > Event: Reminders > uncheck "Display message on screen."
I hope that solves the problem!
thanks! i will try that and get back to you
UPDATE: damn... this doesnt work... for "reminders" in settings/notifications i only have flash light, play sound, and vibrate selected and the screen/phone wakes up/resumes and if it had been in my pocket or whatever i'd be calling people.. any other ideas?
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thanks! i will try that and get back to you
UPDATE: damn... this doesnt work... for "reminders" in settings/notifications i only have flash light, play sound, and vibrate selected and the screen/phone wakes up/resumes and if it had been in my pocket or whatever i'd be calling people.. any other ideas?
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Sorry about that. I just noticed myself right now that my phone woke up for a reminder.
Hmm... I don't know, but I think you should get a working screenlocker. I use TouchLockPro (now you can use your zoombar as an unlock bar). I set it up so that when the screen wakes, the phone instantly locks.
If you decide to use TouchLockPro, the settings are a little hard to understand (I followed the Settings instructions in the developer's website). If you need help with the settings, or if you want an example of my settings, feel free to PM me.
try this ..
warlock...thanks for that cab.. but it didnt work...at least not for calendar reminders.. i will test it on txt msgs as that would help as well
sumflipnol: thanks.. i guess i will have to look into screen locks.. its just annoying cause im fine with the "screen lock except for power button" behavior of winmo.. but if it could just stay asleep for the reminders (other than the sound/led/vibrate options) it'd be perfect
ill let you know if that locking program works out for me
hold down the end button
locks the screen wont but dial or open apps when the screen wakes up
cirrob said:
locks the screen wont but dial or open apps when the screen wakes up
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I believe you're referring to the default Windows Mobile SmartLock (auto-lock). I have that on my phone, and it's not very reliable. My phone sometimes wakes up on my desk, and I notice that Sense2.5 is active (SmartLock obviously failed to auto-launch the WM screenlock). From my week-long experience with TouchLockPro, the screen locks immediately without that small lag, and it's very consistent.
There must be a way!
I'd like to ressurrect this thread to see if anyone has any further ideas.
I also prefer to just use the power-button method of putting my phone into standby rather than mess around with screen locks or anything.
I've disabled wake-up-on-SMS. But it still wakes up whenever there's a reminder for an appointment.
Surely there's a way to stop this behaviour!....
It's an open question, so far...
As many of you, I would like to disable the device wake up for reminders. Same as you, I just want the sound and / or light notification for them.
I've been searching WEB, all XDA forum and my phone registry but I haven't found anything useful for reminders, just for SMS.
The same issue has been posted in other places (for example, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=615633) but there's no final answer yet.
Definitely, lock screen is not enough, because if the device wakes up and the screen turns on, it can keep on for a long time (caused by the screen being pressed because the phone movement inside the pocket) and battery drains very fast.
Have had my new Sprint TP2 for a couple of weeks now, really enjoying it. First "smartphone" for me, figured it's time to join the 21st century.
Biggest issue so far:
When putting the phone into a holster, it comes out of sleep mode (display comes on) - no, I'm not hitting the Power key when I do this. Something here doesnt seem right, but that's what happens...
At that point, on occasion the Dial key may get hit while in the holster (I can understand this, it's a hardware key) - which if the key kets tagged 2x while out of sleep-mode does a pocket dial to the last number called/received.
My original fix to this was to enable the password lock. While a PITA to unlock the phone every time, I'd rather do that than pocket dial. HOWEVER, when running an output only app (such as Google Maps or Navigation) the phone keeps going into lock mode and asking for the password - NOT a good situation while driving down the road...
So my question(s) are:
1. Is there a way to keep the phone from exiting sleep mode while entering a holster?
2. Is there a way to keep the phone from locking up and requesting a password during apps such as Navigation?
(I found this thread while searching, but still un-answered... [Thread 614599; vBulletin wont let me post the URL...)
Thanks in advance for any help!
Jim
This is a completely stock phone, no mods (so far...) other than a couple of applications added (Google Mobile apps, WSOP Poker).
The first question I have for you. Is the case/holder specific to HTC TP2 or is it generic and originally designed for a blackberry?
I ask this because no matter what blackberry case i've ever tried, they always bring my phone out of sleep mode. The reason is the magnet in the case that is designed to put the BB INTO sleep mode.
The case is specific for the Sprint TP2, from ThinkTouchPro2.com. It's the [HTC Touch Pro 2 Naztech Kaskade Vertical Pouch Case - Black], since I still cant post a url... well, I guess I can fake one:
thinktouchpro2.com/htc-touch-pro-2-cases-7462.html
It's definitely the magnet that's doing the trick. The phone comes out of sleep mode just as it starts to go into the case, so it's not a function of hitting any buttons.
Somehow I got into the habit of hitting the power button to put it to sleep before going into the holster, SOOOO thinking maybe it's a 2-way deal I tried leaving the phone awake and putting into the holster - no dice, still awake.
Test 2 was to put the phone into the holster, and then force to sleep. Removing it wakes the phone up, that I'm cool with. But I'm still left with the issue of pocket dialing whenever I use the holster...
Maybe the best solution would be to go to a non-magnetic holster?
Jim
that would be it.
The device uses a magnetic switch to tell it when you slide the keyboard out. So by pulling the device in/out of the case the magnet is triggering the switch leading the device to think you've slid out the keyboard and it should wake up.
I think Advanced config has an option to disable the device from waking up when the keyboard is slid open.
Actually I believe it's the magnet on the stylus, it doesn't have anything to do with the sliding function.
There was a solution for this somewhere around the forums.
If I'm not mistaken, removing the "wake up when keyboard is out" setting, solved the problem with cases that have a magnet.
j0shtalgia said:
Actually I believe it's the magnet on the stylus, it doesn't have anything to do with the sliding function.
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my laptop uses a magnet to secure the screen when i close it and if i slide my tilt2 across where the magnet is with the stylus in or out, the device wakes up and goes into landscape for a second then switches back to portrait.
dont think the stylus magnet would cause it because the stylus is still in the device and the magnet is securing it in. I think it has another sensor in the stylus slot and just uses the magnet to suck it in because on older devices (wizard) the stylus would go loose, but then again those devices didn't wake when the stylus was removed.
fone_fanatic said:
my laptop uses a magnet to secure the screen when i close it and if i slide my tilt2 across where the magnet is with the stylus in or out, the device wakes up and goes into landscape for a second then switches back to portrait.
dont think the stylus magnet would cause it because the stylus is still in the device and the magnet is securing it in. I think it has another sensor in the stylus slot and just uses the magnet to suck it in because on older devices (wizard) the stylus would go loose, but then again those devices didn't wake when the stylus was removed.
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Ah, I see. Interesting!
fone_fanatic said:
... if i slide my tilt2 across where the magnet is with the stylus in or out, the device wakes up and goes into landscape for a second then switches back to portrait.
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BINGO, think we're onto it as I've seen this behavior as well.
I've poked around looking for this, but the closest I've found is the "Keyboard Sliding Sound", but there's not an option to kill the wake-up function. Can someone point me in the direction of the "Advanced Config"?
Jim
So why not use pocket sheild? It has a 15 sec timer on it, so if you put it in your holster and it "wakes up", after 15 seconds it will turn the phone off again if there isn't any action done on it. Use it to only turn on with the light sensor when you pull it out of you pocket or a finger swipe from top to bottom. Also, you can tell it what apps that it cannot go into sleep mode on.
aj48198 said:
So why not use pocket sheild?
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That's actually on my list of apps to take a look at, but for a different reason. I'd still like it to not come on at all, as the pocket dial I made was well w/in the 15s timeout for PS.
Ok, so the search originally didnt work for me because I didnt realize it was the magnet causing the wake-up. Knowing that now, I found the registry change I need to make in another thread.
Now for the total noob quesion:
How do I get into the registry to edit it?
I gather Total Commander is the popular tool of choice, and now have that installed. But my searches keep coming up with various tweaks to MAKE in the registry, but not how to GET TO it. I was unable to find this in the TC docs, either...
Thanks for the patient assistance to a WM noob.
(tho I'm a .Net programmer, so not a complete ijit - unless you want to hold being a .Net programmer against me, which I really couldnt blame you for - but it beats the heck outta COBOL...)
Jim
PHM Registry Editor. I would have posted a link but I don't have enough posts to do so!! Just google it and it should come up I got mine off of freewareppc com
Pocket Sheild will not let anything happen what so ever. Unless you physically make it happen, it will do nothing but sit there at the unlock screen waiting for input. If nothing happens, the screen will go back into sleep mode. Check the website out, that should help you make your decision easier. You can change the timer to be 10 seconds as well but I think that is about as close as you can get beside turning the phone off!!
SailCO26 said:
Have had my new Sprint TP2 for a couple of weeks now, really enjoying it. First "smartphone" for me, figured it's time to join the 21st century.
Biggest issue so far:
When putting the phone into a holster, it comes out of sleep mode (display comes on) - no, I'm not hitting the Power key when I do this. Something here doesnt seem right, but that's what happens...
At that point, on occasion the Dial key may get hit while in the holster (I can understand this, it's a hardware key) - which if the key kets tagged 2x while out of sleep-mode does a pocket dial to the last number called/received.
My original fix to this was to enable the password lock. While a PITA to unlock the phone every time, I'd rather do that than pocket dial. HOWEVER, when running an output only app (such as Google Maps or Navigation) the phone keeps going into lock mode and asking for the password - NOT a good situation while driving down the road...
So my question(s) are:
1. Is there a way to keep the phone from exiting sleep mode while entering a holster?
2. Is there a way to keep the phone from locking up and requesting a password during apps such as Navigation?
(I found this thread while searching, but still un-answered... [Thread 614599; vBulletin wont let me post the URL...)
Thanks in advance for any help!
Jim
This is a completely stock phone, no mods (so far...) other than a couple of applications added (Google Mobile apps, WSOP Poker).
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I think this is what you need:
1) this is a magnet holster issue -- FIX: from wmexpert touch-pro-2-tip-fix-cases-magnets-issue-registry-fix *attached Cab
2) To stop certain apps from locking automatically I use S2U2 *zip attached (Slide to Unlock) there is a list of applications that you can set not to lock when active. I use this for GPS navigation for example. showthread.php?t=527523
You can set a password with this or not as you wish. You'll like it.
Keep in mind that the one sideeffect of the magnet fix is that the phone will not automatically unlock on opening the keyboard. You have to hit the power button. Personally I don't have any problem with this.
aj48198 said:
Pocket Sheild will not let anything happen what so ever. Unless you physically make it happen, it will do nothing but sit there at the unlock screen waiting for input. If nothing happens, the screen will go back into sleep mode. Check the website out, that should help you make your decision easier. You can change the timer to be 10 seconds as well but I think that is about as close as you can get beside turning the phone off!!
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well he is making it physically happen, but unintentionally. The magnet in the holster is waking the device up by making it think the keyboard has slid open, then the call button is being pressed against the case causing the device to place a call.
as i stated earlier, its best to disable wake-up when keyboard is slid out which is provided in a cab in the post right before this one.
Thanks aj and fwp, I think I've got it now.
Backed into a copy of the PHM RegEdit, and the slide fix worked great! No worries about the kb not waking the phone up, never used that function anyway.
Re the S2U2 app and preventing lock during some apps, does PocketShield also do this - or would I need to run both to keep GPS apps alive?
Thanks again!
Jim
fone_fanatic said:
well he is making it physically happen, but unintentionally. The magnet in the holster is waking the device up by making it think the keyboard has slid open, then the call button is being pressed against the case causing the device to place a call.
as i stated earlier, its best to disable wake-up when keyboard is slid out which is provided in a cab in the post right before this one.
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I get that, and if the cab fixes the issue, thats great. What I was saying was that pocket sheild will not unlock at all, be it the keyboard slid open or the stylus came out, unless you program it to do so. I just tried to make it unlock by sliding the keyboard open and the only thing it did was go into landscape, still locked tho.
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I get that, and if the cab fixes the issue, thats great. What I was saying was that pocket sheild will not unlock at all, be it the keyboard slid open or the stylus came out, unless you program it to do so. I just tried to make it unlock by sliding the keyboard open and the only thing it did was go into landscape, still locked tho.
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ahh ok, not familiar with that app and thought you were saying that it would wait for an input (i.e. buttons pressed) for a set time, and if nothing happened then it would lock the device after a set time period.
SailCO26 said:
Thanks aj and fwp, I think I've got it now.
Backed into a copy of the PHM RegEdit, and the slide fix worked great! No worries about the kb not waking the phone up, never used that function anyway.
Re the S2U2 app and preventing lock during some apps, does PocketShield also do this - or would I need to run both to keep GPS apps alive?
Thanks again!
Jim
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PS does do that (preventing lock during some apps) You just have to tell it when you are in the settings.
Thanks for all the great info! Have the phone "safe" now, but will be looking into PocketShield as the next app.
Jim
Hi all,
I was wondering, is there a way or app to change the way to answer the touch pro 2 /tilt 2? I know everyone loves slide to answer, however i like my answer or reject soft button. Anyone know of a tool to have buttons instead of the slider?
Thanks.
You could try S2U2. If you activate the caller id under the S2U2 settings and turn the slide to answer off, you will get the answer and reject buttons. The screen won't be the same, but it will give you the buttons instead of the slider.
I hate the slide to answer on the phone because every once in a while when I take my phone out, the screen flips causing what would normally slide to answer to be a slide to reject.
I have missed MANY calls because of that crap. I hate it.
Master Thief-117 said:
I hate the slide to answer on the phone because every once in a while when I take my phone out, the screen flips causing what would normally slide to answer to be a slide to reject.
I have missed MANY calls because of that crap. I hate it.
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The phone application is not normally configured to change orientation according to the G-Sensor. Its possible that the phone application was somehow added to the G-Sensor whitelist due to a mod you made. You can remove it from the G-Sensor whitelist (use this forum's search function), which I recommend, since having the phone app on the whitelist causes all sorts of issues.
The other possibility is that you are using a case that has a magnetic clasp, which is causing the phone to think the hardware keyboard is open (this is triggered by a magnetic sensor). There is a registry edit to prevent this.