Hello,
I have Sony XZ2C, I like Always on Display on Cell, previously I had LG G5, but in Sony, They Use Ambient Display Technology, my question is if I install third party app for Always on display than it will damage screen in future?
I think many people have this question, please share experience knowledge so others can also know the truth
Still No any Reply !!
It won't cause damage, but it will drain your battery quickly because, well, it's an LCD.
Moniboi said:
It won't cause damage, but it will drain your battery quickly because, well, it's an LCD.
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I am talking about Third Party Apps because Sony Doesn't have Always on Display Functionality, Because if you installed Always on Display it means Display Always On so not damage right?
sunnymodh said:
I am talking about Third Party Apps because Sony Doesn't have Always on Display Functionality, Because if you installed Always on Display it means Display Always On so not damage right?
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It won't cause damage to your display, but it will drain your battery quickly as I said. Since it's an LCD, the whole of the screen is on instead of how it is on OLED panels, in which obly certain pixels can be activated. It will drain battery as quickly as if you had your screen on all the time.
Moniboi said:
It won't cause damage to your display, but it will drain your battery quickly as I said. Since it's an LCD, the whole of the screen is on instead of how it is on OLED panels, in which only certain pixels can be activated. It will drain the battery as quickly as if you had your screen on all the time.
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Oh...Thanks for Clarification and useful answer
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Has anyone noticed any burn-in problems yet? I've seen reports of the problem for some other watches (LG), but so far nothing specific here for the Huawei.
It's so far so good for me, but I've been extremely nervous about this issue. I avoid faces with things like thick tic marks or logos in ambient mode. I know about Wear's built-in "protection," but I don't have a lot of confidence in it. Am I being unreasonable?
improvius said:
Has anyone noticed any burn-in problems yet? I've seen reports of the problem for some other watches (LG), but so far nothing specific here for the Huawei.
It's so far so good for me, but I've been extremely nervous about this issue. I avoid faces with things like thick tic marks or logos in ambient mode. I know about Wear's built-in "protection," but I don't have a lot of confidence in it. Am I being unreasonable?
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I had the GWR and didn't have any issues with that at all. That said I turn the screen off at night during charging so maybe that helps. I'll keep an eye on the Huawei, but I'm hopeful that it will be fine.
dunjamon said:
I had the GWR and didn't have any issues with that at all. That said I turn the screen off at night during charging so maybe that helps. I'll keep an eye on the Huawei, but I'm hopeful that it will be fine.
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I had the GWR for almost a year too. Always used watchfaces that are 'always on' (so no dimmed mode without background) and always had the charging animation on by night. Never experienced any burn-in.
I just powered mine on for the first time last night. I played with it for a few hours, then put it in the charger for the night and this morning it has burn-in!! How could it happen so fast??
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I just powered mine on for the first time last night. I played with it for a few hours, then put it in the charger for the night and this morning it has burn-in!! How could it happen so fast??
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Whoa! What got burned in? The little charging icon?
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Whoa! What got burned in? The little charging icon?
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The outline of the watch face. If I change the watchface and swipe left, you can see the outline of the other face as the background instead of white.
mszach said:
The outline of the watch face. If I change the watchface and swipe left, you can see the outline of the other face as the background instead of white.
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hell no, wtf!!
it is very bad, sorry for that, were you using this watchface long time ago? what is the watch face look like in ambient mode? maybe the watch got really hot, and screen on while charging. i started to worry about the screen quality of this watch.
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i have seen this is your first day, i think maybe a faulty screen
Yeah, I'm wondering if your watch just froze in full display mode overnight.
mszach said:
The outline of the watch face. If I change the watchface and swipe left, you can see the outline of the other face as the background instead of white.
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That deserves an RMA and you deserve a new replacement watch.
I sometimes get lag on mine, im not sure if it's actual lag or whether im doing something wrong but as someone mentioned if the watch went full brightness and is charging then the heat might have done it?
I returned it yesterday to best buy. Lucky me though. . they had cyber Monday deals and it was on sale for $50 less! !
I noticed that when the minute hands on mine move (ie every minute) that the whole screen kind of does a refresh. I'm using a custom watch face called InstaWeather, and in the settings there's an option to help with screen burn. I wonder if this is it? So every minute, every pixel would have been off/on or on/off?
dieselboy said:
I noticed that when the minute hands on mine move (ie every minute) that the whole screen kind of does a refresh. I'm using a custom watch face called InstaWeather, and in the settings there's an option to help with screen burn. I wonder if this is it? So every minute, every pixel would have been off/on or on/off?
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yes, this is an android wear burn in protection buy moving a few pixels in all directions, works very good if you don't have large objects in the ambient mode, and won't help much if you have.
improvius said:
Has anyone noticed any burn-in problems yet? I've seen reports of the problem for some other watches (LG), but so far nothing specific here for the Huawei.
It's so far so good for me, but I've been extremely nervous about this issue. I avoid faces with things like thick tic marks or logos in ambient mode. I know about Wear's built-in "protection," but I don't have a lot of confidence in it. Am I being unreasonable?
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In my opinion, yes, you are being overly worried. First the technologies itself has improved and we see less burn-in even when we set screens on to test such a thing. Second, the ability to move(write) a watch face or screen is not some huge leap, in fact it's really super easy to add to an OS to simply move the screen pin outs when in any long display mode. Beyond all that, app makers, watch face builders, now have the old data and make sure they write to avoid any long same display visual mode.
Easy to add to an app, when write same display, write 2 pixels, change.
Then after all that we have face on mode and ambient mode, which in my daily use changes my watch face enough that I would never get burn in. Agree that I am a heavy user of the watch, I tend to have to change twice a day. Perhaps someone that used the watch much less would have more of a concern?
I have the same problem
http://cl.ly/183c0O2m0m2q/amoled_vypaleny.jpg
Huawei Watch - after four days of use.
dj.kure said:
I have the same problem
http://cl.ly/183c0O2m0m2q/amoled_vypaleny.jpg
Huawei Watch - after four days of use.
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****. What kind of messed up face watch/app did u use?
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In my opinion, yes, you are being overly worried. First the technologies itself has improved and we see less burn-in even when we set screens on to test such a thing. Second, the ability to move(write) a watch face or screen is not some huge leap, in fact it's really super easy to add to an OS to simply move the screen pin outs when in any long display mode. Beyond all that, app makers, watch face builders, now have the old data and make sure they write to avoid any long same display visual mode.
Easy to add to an app, when write same display, write 2 pixels, change.
Then after all that we have face on mode and ambient mode, which in my daily use changes my watch face enough that I would never get burn in. Agree that I am a heavy user of the watch, I tend to have to change twice a day. Perhaps someone that used the watch much less would have more of a concern?
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Wrong. You must not understand what screen burn in is. No new technology has come out that will stop screen burn in. The software that moves the pixels over only works if the object is 1 pixel wide other wise it doesn't work screen burn in will still happen. And they do not have it where the same pixels won't be used otherwise in ambient mode it would jump around not wiggle.
dj.kure said:
I have the same problem
http://cl.ly/183c0O2m0m2q/amoled_vypaleny.jpg
Huawei Watch - after four days of use.
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Reset the watch. It may not be burn in. I saw a bug like this from using too high Def of an image on a watch face. It got stuck in the cache even after I changed watch faces. I reset the watch and haven't had any issues since
Lepa79 said:
****. What kind of messed up face watch/app did u use?
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Default watchface "Explorer".
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ShrekOpher said:
Reset the watch. It may not be burn in. I saw a bug like this from using too high Def of an image on a watch face. It got stuck in the cache even after I changed watch faces. I reset the watch and haven't had any issues since
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Do you mean "Factory reset"? I did it, but nothing has changed.
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Wrong. You must not understand what screen burn in is. No new technology has come out that will stop screen burn in. The software that moves the pixels over only works if the object is 1 pixel wide other wise it doesn't work screen burn in will still happen. And they do not have it where the same pixels won't be used otherwise in ambient mode it would jump around not wiggle.
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Fare enough, just my opinion, & you have yours. Too bad you had to start by saying wrong.
Samsung has made changes to light output and color to reduce burn in, and we all know there is some type of display movement now to also reduce burn in, so it's odd you claim there has been nothing.
Anywho, I don't get burn in so yea, maybe with your attitude if you do, you deserve it?
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Fare enough, just my opinion, & you have yours. Too bad you had to start by saying wrong.
Samsung has made changes to light output and color to reduce burn in, and we all know there is some type of display movement now to also reduce burn in, so it's odd you claim there has been nothing.
Anywho, I don't get burn in so yea, maybe with your attitude if you do, you deserve it?
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I'm not going to start it by saying you're right, am I? Samsung didn't make changes to anything in light output the only thing that's changed is adaptive screen color which is meant to adapt the screen contrast to show what's on screen in the best possible colors. There is no new technology that will stop burn in. You must not have understood me. The image wiggle is a software attempt to stop screen burn in from happening but it won't stop it just slow it down. Screen burn in will continue to be a thing until the panels we use change technology. I didn't say that nothing has been made to prevent it.
And if you sense attitude in a straightforward response that's on you. I'll let karma deal with that comment. I personally don't get screen burn in and I've had a SAMOLED device since the Samsung Epic. I just understand how to prevent it. But just because I've never had it I won't tell people that they're overly concerned about screen burn in.
I have a Moto X 2013. It doesn't have all the fancy features of the Moto X (2014) or even the Nexus 6, but I believe it made use of its sole proximity sensor to perform a really slick implementation of Moto Display. It used the proximity sensor to identify when you are picking up the phone or when your hand is close to the phone and accordingly show the time on the screen. It also pulsated the notification on screen when there was a notification. Very responsive and efficient. Is there some app that can emulate this for the Nexus 5X? Why not use the Nexus's proximity sensor all the time like the Moto X to identify when we are picking up the phone? What is the limitation here?
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I have a Moto X 2013. It doesn't have all the fancy features of the Moto X (2014) or even the Nexus 6, but I believe it made use of its sole proximity sensor to perform a really slick implementation of Moto Display. It used the proximity sensor to identify when you are picking up the phone or when your hand is close to the phone and accordingly show the time on the screen. It also pulsated the notification on screen when there was a notification. Very responsive and efficient. Is there some app that can emulate this for the Nexus 5X? Why not use the Nexus's proximity sensor all the time like the Moto X to identify when we are picking up the phone? What is the limitation here?
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since Moto X 2013 used an Amoled display. It could turn on few pixels on the screen to show you pulsated notifications and not drain the battery or heat up the device, Nexus 5x unfortunately uses a LCD screen so turning on few pixels on the screen is out of the question even if someone force the feature onto N5X it'll led to Huge battery drain + Heat up so in short ITS NOT POSSIBLE.
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since Moto X 2013 used an Amoled display. It could turn on few pixels on the screen to show you pulsated notifications and not drain the battery or heat up the device, Nexus 5x unfortunately uses a LCD screen so turning on few pixels on the screen is out of the question even if someone force the feature onto N5X it'll led to Huge battery drain + Heat up so in short ITS NOT POSSIBLE.
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The 2015 Moto X has a LCD display and functions just as the 2013 Moto X did with an AMOLED display. The '15 didn't heat up and the battery drain wasn't as bad as you would think. However, the whole display turning on was annoying and one of the reasons I turned Moto Display off and eventually sold the phone.
I wasn't even talking about '15 version. Though you answered it yourself.
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since Moto X 2013 used an Amoled display. It could turn on few pixels on the screen to show you pulsated notifications and not drain the battery or heat up the device, Nexus 5x unfortunately uses a LCD screen so turning on few pixels on the screen is out of the question even if someone force the feature onto N5X it'll led to Huge battery drain + Heat up so in short ITS NOT POSSIBLE.
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That does not answer my question. I am fully aware that due to the LCD screen, it cannot just turn on some pixels. But, what I want is an app that can use the proximity sensor to identify when we are using the phone or picking up the phone and then turn the screen on for displaying the notification. That should be doable right?
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I wasn't even talking about '15 version. Though you answered it yourself.
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You suggested that the 5X would heat up and it would kill the battery because of the screen tech. You are wrong. The 2015 moto x is the proof. RIF, princess.
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litetaker said:
I have a Moto X 2013. It doesn't have all the fancy features of the Moto X (2014) or even the Nexus 6, but I believe it made use of its sole proximity sensor to perform a really slick implementation of Moto Display. It used the proximity sensor to identify when you are picking up the phone or when your hand is close to the phone and accordingly show the time on the screen. It also pulsated the notification on screen when there was a notification. Very responsive and efficient. Is there some app that can emulate this for the Nexus 5X? Why not use the Nexus's proximity sensor all the time like the Moto X to identify when we are picking up the phone? What is the limitation here?
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You might want to take a look at Gravity Screen, from the Play Store.
I use Dynamic Notifications on my old GNex that I have lying around. It works pretty much like the moto x's active display. There are options to have it sense when its pulled out of your pocket or picked up off a table, but I don't remember if those are only in the full version or the free one as well.
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You might want to take a look at Gravity Screen, from the Play Store.
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Thanks, I tried it and seems to work. But also, it seems to be a little aggressive with the turning the display off thing that my display seems to turn off very very quickly even when I am using it.
MurdocZero said:
I use Dynamic Notifications on my old GNex that I have lying around. It works pretty much like the moto x's active display. There are options to have it sense when its pulled out of your pocket or picked up off a table, but I don't remember if those are only in the full version or the free one as well.
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I will try this out as well.
@PiousInquisitor I assume you haven't tried Tap2wake feature on ElementalX ? It eats alot of battery life hence heating up my device not that much but still. Do your research before you reply kid
BTW With Moto X 2014 there is something with the Display that doesn't cause it to heat up. Just like on G2,G3,G4.
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@PiousInquisitor I assume you haven't tried Tap2wake feature on ElementalX ? It eats alot of battery life hence heating up my device not that much but still. Do your research before you reply kid
BTW With Moto X 2014 there is something with the Display that doesn't cause it to heat up. Just like on G2,G3,G4.
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Tap to wake and Moto Display are two different things, tiger. Try again.
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Is Ambient display like on stock marshmallow what you want then?
Lights up the screen in a sort of monochrome to display time/notifications only on lock screen when you pick up the phone.
"AC display" app is a great substitute for moto display. Combined with double tap2wake when phone is out of pocket and you're all set.
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@PiousInquisitor I assume you haven't tried Tap2wake feature on ElementalX ? It eats alot of battery life hence heating up my device not that much but still. Do your research before you reply kid
BTW With Moto X 2014 there is something with the Display that doesn't cause it to heat up. Just like on G2,G3,G4.
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It does not eat *a lot* of battery, just a tiny bit. And does not heat your device at all.
Recently, my screen starts to have some narrow trapezoid dark marks along the left and right sides when the screen brightness drops below 40% (like 28% set by Auto Brightness). Sometimes there is also some color bleeding (from the icons and background below) at the top edge when the dark marks appear. When the brightness is 40% or above, they disappear. I suspect it has something to do with the PWM that controls the brightness. Does anyone has similar experience and any suggested ways to fix it? I am considering to send it to LG warranty repair. Thanks.
It's unrooted and on stock ROM, right ?
you could try a factory reset and see if it changes anything ...
Was the phone particularly hot at the point in time ?
Are you gaming ... like a lot ?
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It's unrooted and on stock ROM, right ?
you could try a factory reset and see if it changes anything ...
Was the phone particularly hot at the point in time ?
Are you gaming ... like a lot ?
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It is a T-Mobile, so no root and stock rom.
I may try a factory reset and see how it goes.
No, it was not very hot when it happened. It was at normal operating temperature.
No gaming. I don't even have any games installed. Those are not burn-in, as they are not in a fixed position. If I adjust the brightness, the dark marks will shift their location with the brightness %, so I suspect it is the PWM that causes it.
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It is a T-Mobile, so no root and stock rom.
I may try a factory reset and see how it goes.
No, it was not very hot when it happened. It was at normal operating temperature.
No gaming. I don't even have any games installed. Those are not burn-in, as they are not in a fixed position. If I adjust the brightness, the dark marks will shift their location with the brightness %, so I suspect it is the PWM that causes it.
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Could very well be, I'm however also thinking about SoC and Die (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_(integrated_circuit)) issues [hardware defect]
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Could very well be, I'm however also thinking about SoC and Die (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_(integrated_circuit)) issues [hardware defect]
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I agree with you. I did a factory reset and the issue remains, so it is likely hardware failure. I sent it to LG Warranty repair and see what they say.
LG diagnostic finding is "Display screen is discolored", so it appears to be the OLED screen that is defective and is covered by warranty. The "LCD (Main,Sub)" is replaced. I didn't know there is a "sub" LCD.
I received my phone back, and it seems I get a new phone. It is wrapped in plastic film. Thumbs up for LG warranty.
Really ?
PhoneTechShop said:
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Yes really. Do some investigation before you buy a Mate 20, you could have known this.
Yeah since it's LCD display,having no AOD is a real shocker
Gremio1903 said:
Yeah since it's LCD display,having no AOD is a real shocker
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LG G7 has also a LCD display, but it has AOD. So has nothing to do with LCD
Car can also sail,it doesnt mean it's a smart idea.
Same for LCD screens and AOD.(aka keeping my screen turned on all the time draining battery like there's no tomorrow,had it on G6 with 2h of sot lol...opposing to AMOLED screens which have only few pixels turned on for AOD purposes while others are shut off thus giving almost the same battery life with AOD as without )
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Car can also sail,it doesnt mean it's a smart idea.
Same for LCD screens and AOD.(aka keeping my screen turned on all the time draining battery like there's no tomorrow,had it on G6 with 2h of sot lol...opposing to AMOLED screens which have only few pixels turned on for AOD purposes while others are shut off thus giving almost the same battery life with AOD as without )
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AOD is meant for people that put it on a stand or a wireless charger stand, as I do. It has nothing to do with LCD or Amoled, it is a choice :good:
No it isn't. Fact that only two LG's lowest selling phones are using it in history of lcd screens shows its a stupid choice.
And no it is not ment as a night stand **** it's ment as a permanent and advanced substitution of notification led.
99% of ppl don't use stands of any kinds and look for notifications while phone is off the charger/stand etc.
99%? Give me a link where you got this information, you made me curious
It was a figurative expression,can u give me link that AOD is meant just for stands or a wireless chargers? You made me curious.
I didn't want to go there cuz idiotic questions demant idiotic answers
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It was a figurative expression,can u give me link that AOD is meant just for stands or a wireless chargers? You made me curious.
I didn't want to go there cuz idiotic questions demant idiotic answers
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nvm
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Yes really. Do some investigation before you buy a Mate 20, you could have known this.
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I already have it .. I had Honor Note 10 there was.. but I sold NOte10 because it was china version only google not supported 100%
But I didn't have always it on but there was additional ''turbo'' button for gamez but it also showed temporary always on display so I just pressed it once and showed it for 5 seconds .. I used it espec next to bed or when I woke up early ..
Hi,
is anyone having heating issues with display panel ?
I'm attaching a picture of the portion where the heat arise after use for a while.
location marked on picture.
always on 120hz refresh rate
I'm using galaxy s20 5G SM-G981U1
So it's hot there?
Maybe a display or component failure in progress.
Never seen that with a OLED screen.
If an internal component is getting hot enough to effect the display it will eventually cause it to fail.
Return for repair or better replacement.
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So it's hot there?
Maybe a display or component failure in progress.
Never seen that with a OLED screen.
If an internal component is getting hot enough to effect the display it will eventually cause it to fail.
Return for repair or better replacement.
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not much heat, its like warm a bit. max 22°C
but in 60hz temperature remains normal
mohaiminulmunna said:
not much heat, its like warm a bit. max 22°C
but in 60hz temperature remains normal
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Maybe a power hungry flat pack under there and nothing abnormal about the temperature difference.
The display on the other hand doesn't look normal... that sucks.