Hello all!
Edit: if you're not interested in the Story, and just want the solution, scroll to Chapter Four
This already has been quite the journey, in fact I went way deeper down this rabbit hole than I'd like to admit, so here is the story:
General info:
Car: Audi TT mk2, 2011, has Bose audio and hands free talking, previous stereo was the RNS-E
Headunit: Xtrons PB78ATTRP, PX5
So the problem was/is, the unit only outputs Sound in these apps:
-Radio, A2DP, Phone Calls, CD-Player, Music or Videos that are loaded onto the micro-SD
I contacted the Xtrons support, apart from being very unhelpful and not doing anything, I later got them to send me a new can bus-adapter (will come into play further down).
So because they weren't very helpful, and i really liked the unit, and with basically no alternatives (Xtrons units claim to be plug+play with the Bose systems, which no other manufacturer I came across claimed), I decided I'd try to hunt it down myself.
Chapter one: Updated the unit to the newest Xtrons firmware + MCU, that did nothing. Updated it to lots of different MCUs, didn't do anything either. Installed Hal9k, no change. Different MCU again, no change. Went on many searches on google, and found people with similar/same problems, but no solution. Then came across something entirely different ,but it gave me new ideas.
Chapter two: I reset the unit a few times, back to Xtrons, back to Hal9k, no change, then I came across the factory settings: you can access those in the car settings all the way down, then enter 126. Standard setting for the can bus profile was, I think, 23 AudiA3, A4. Changed it to anything different than that, and voila, sound now works like it should (although the Bose amp is now always on, when the stereo is on, giving out a little white noise). However, a new enemy emerged: now the steering wheel controls, of course, stopped working.
Chapter three: Tried many different settings in the factory-can bus settings, of course, no difference. At this point, I figured the only thing that could be wrong is either the can bus decoder box or the MCU. So I got that new box from Xtrons, and nothing changed. More internet search fopllowed: I found out some MCUs work across different manufacturers, Xtrons being "GS" for example. So I tried some different ones, and found my can bus box, being a "GS", wouldn't speak with those MCUs. At this point, I got sick of it and figured I'd learn to live without steering wheel controls.
Chapter four: a month or two after chapter three (Today), I figured why not give it another try. So I did another google research on people with can bus problems on PX5 and found this Thread.
So i did what he did, and: IT WORKS! (sort of) Now I have sound in all Apps, and working steering wheel controls. The amp is still constantly on and makes white noise when no music is playing, and i cant completely disable the can bus app, only force stop it, resulting in probably having to force stop it if it somehow starts itself or the unit reboots (if it only sleeps it's fine).
So now, I finally know where the dog was buried so to say, I guess to really fix this id need an update for that can bus-app, which probably Xtrons won't provide
I hope this helped everyone else with that problem, and I'd appreciate any ideas on how to proceed with that can bus-app
have a good one,
Hello, today is your lucky day
I have a 2010 audi ttrs and a Xtron TE706PL with Rom Hal9K ... and i have can bus original from Xtron.
The radio is a universal Xtron one, but i have buy the can bus from radio Xtron for TT Audi.
I have choose in factory the audi A3.
This is not the first android car that I ride.
I have put mcu modified GS, for better sound and it is better with the bass.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...ent/mod-cs-x-mod-mtcd-e-mcu-firmware-t3816042
For the problem of the amp remaining simply connect the cable vag com and select "1 via remote wire", which will tin the amp with the +15 contact.
For the problem of noise parasite, just go down, with the vag com, the level of the amp, but you can if you want raise the level of the Xtron radio, I'm at -6db for the amp bose.
https://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5645132-Bose-aftermarket-HU-WARNING!
With the perfect Hal9k rom, you can change the function of the steeringweel control !
Math
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For the problem of the amp remaining simply connect the cable vag com and select "1 via remote wire", which will tin the amp with the +15 contact.
Best greetings
Pat
EverMath said:
Hello, today is your lucky day
I have a 2010 audi ttrs and a Xtron TE706PL with Rom Hal9K ... and i have can bus original from Xtron.
The radio is a universal Xtron one, but i have buy the can bus from radio Xtron for TT Audi.
I have choose in factory the audi A3.
This is not the first android car that I ride.
I have put mcu modified GS, for better sound and it is better with the bass.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...ent/mod-cs-x-mod-mtcd-e-mcu-firmware-t3816042
For the problem of the amp remaining simply connect the cable vag com and select "1 via remote wire", which will tin the amp with the +15 contact.
For the problem of noise parasite, just go down, with the vag com, the level of the amp, but you can if you want raise the level of the Xtron radio, I'm at -6db for the amp bose.
https://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?5645132-Bose-aftermarket-HU-WARNING!
With the perfect Hal9k rom, you can change the function of the steeringweel control !
Math
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Hello,
By changing this option, the original bose amplifier will shut off when you turn off and take off the car key.
Math
https://picclick.fr/Vcds-vag-com-hex-can-189-français-dernière-génération-401741194415.html
Or go to your Audi dealer to change the options?
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Hi all, new guy here with some problems.
I've bought a new headunit to replace my factory Skoda Stream Radio CD.
My car is an Skoda Octavia mk2 vRS year 2007, so any VW headunit should be OK in my car.
New headunit is a Joying Android 4.4.4 RK3188 with latest official firmware (June 2015).
I was trying to install it this morning for the first time and found several problems.
The most important one is the headunit doesn't power off even with my car completely shutdown and closed.
Headunit install instructions state there are two different methods to connect the headunit.
First and preferred one is using CANBUS decoder box, so headunit power is controlled through CANBUS decoder.
But if headunit doesn't power on when you turn on the car (that's happening to mine), you have to use second method: unplug CANBUS decoder box and connect ACC +12V red wires so that headunit gets powered.
With this second method the headunit starts up OK, but when i turn off the engine, take out the key or even close the car with remote control, headunit doesn't power off at all. I even tried to wait for 20 minutes but with no results. So i had to remove new headunit from the car to avoid battery drain...
I have upgraded firmware from Abril to June version so i got a new feature that allows to delay shutdown after ACC is off.
I set it to 30 seconds delay but still nothing. Headunit stays on.
I already asked to seller, and i'm waiting for an answer. But i thought maybe i could get some valuable ideas here at the forum.
Still don't understand why headunit is not powering on with CANBUS decoder connected. My car should support it, my factory Skoda Stream Radio CD is able to show climatronic info on display.
Other problems i found:
- Headunit buttons don't light even if i turn on car headlights. If i set button's colour in Settings\Elements buttons light for a pair of seconds to show new color, but then they go off again.
- I wanted to set Skoda logo at boot at Factory Settings but asks for a pin/password. Thought it was 126 but it isn't. What is the pin for Factory Settings?
- There's a slight buzzing coming from speakers when i turn on car headlights. That buzzing is not there with Skoda factory radio unit.
Long post, thanks in advance for your answers. :good:
Seems to me wrong or defected harness?
Does your car have factory amplifier? I had one that was making lot of issues. I figured out that the harness was the problem because they sent me a harness that is compatible with my factory head unit. But my car was standard trim that didnt include it. I had to cut one wire they told me to cut it. And it worked fine after that.
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Thanks for your answer Scorbion,
Seller is going to send me a new Canbus box decoder. We think it must be faulty, that's why headunit doesn't power on or power off with it. Without Canbus box, ACC coming from VW harness is not a real ACC but a +12V to battery, because VW factory radio does all through canbus, and so headunit is always connected and doesn't power off.
Will update info when i get the new canbus box from seller.
Thanks
Scorbion said:
Seems to me wrong or defected harness?
Does your car have factory amplifier? I had one that was making lot of issues. I figured out that the harness was the problem because they sent me a harness that is compatible with my factory head unit. But my car was standard trim that didnt include it. I had to cut one wire they told me to cut it. And it worked fine after that.
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GAF70 said:
Hi all, new guy here with some problems.
I've bought a new headunit to replace my factory Skoda Stream Radio CD.
My car is an Skoda Octavia mk2 vRS year 2007, so any VW headunit should be OK in my car.
New headunit is a Joying Android 4.4.4 RK3188 with latest official firmware (June 2015).
I was trying to install it this morning for the first time and found several problems.
The most important one is the headunit doesn't power off even with my car completely shutdown and closed.
Headunit install instructions state there are two different methods to connect the headunit.
First and preferred one is using CANBUS decoder box, so headunit power is controlled through CANBUS decoder.
But if headunit doesn't power on when you turn on the car (that's happening to mine), you have to use second method: unplug CANBUS decoder box and connect ACC +12V red wires so that headunit gets powered.
With this second method the headunit starts up OK, but when i turn off the engine, take out the key or even close the car with remote control, headunit doesn't power off at all. I even tried to wait for 20 minutes but with no results. So i had to remove new headunit from the car to avoid battery drain...
I have upgraded firmware from Abril to June version so i got a new feature that allows to delay shutdown after ACC is off.
I set it to 30 seconds delay but still nothing. Headunit stays on.
I already asked to seller, and i'm waiting for an answer. But i thought maybe i could get some valuable ideas here at the forum.
Still don't understand why headunit is not powering on with CANBUS decoder connected. My car should support it, my factory Skoda Stream Radio CD is able to show climatronic info on display.
Other problems i found:
- Headunit buttons don't light even if i turn on car headlights. If i set button's colour in Settings\Elements buttons light for a pair of seconds to show new color, but then they go off again.
- I wanted to set Skoda logo at boot at Factory Settings but asks for a pin/password. Thought it was 126 but it isn't. What is the pin for Factory Settings?
- There's a slight buzzing coming from speakers when i turn on car headlights. That buzzing is not there with Skoda factory radio unit.
Long post, thanks in advance for your answers. :good:
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i have the same problem. can u fix it?
Did you solve this canbus problem?
Yes, new can bus decoder did the trick.
Long time ago though...
Hardware solution trumps everything
Had the same issue. Im also waiting for the supplier to respond. In the meantime, I just pulled the acc pin off the box and connected the radio to cig. lighter possitive. Works.
excessdivide said:
Hello everyone,
Big thanks to the heavy hitters here that are making these units actually usable!
I received my Dasaita HA5217-V600 two weeks ago and thanks to having previously scoured these forums, I was able to install it, in my 2016 Toyota Corolla, with relative ease. Everything worked better than expected, and I had great bluetooth sound, strong WiFi connections, my door and A/C controls appeared on screen, my SWC all matched and decent FM reception. My bluetooth OBDII adapter is arriving this week so I'll have to report back on that.
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My OBDII adapter arrived today and it immediately paired with my HU, and Torque Pro recognized it instantly! I'm thrilled at how easy this was.
For those interested, this is the adapter I purchased:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y6HLRKY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
So to recap:
My unit is:
MTCD HA5217-V600
10.2 " PX5 1.6 gHz, Octa-core, 2Gb/32Gb
Malaysk v5 ROM and MCU: MTCE v2.65f
Installed in 2016 Toyota Corolla S (6 speaker audio w/o factory "Entune" navigation system) and Rockford-Fosgate Prime's in both front and back.
SWC = all preprogrammed settings match my OEM settings, although they are unconfigurable.
Bluetooth connections have not yet dropped, volume and clarity are on pair with my previous Pioneer HU
Panel buttons all work and LEDs are configurable
Door and A/C controls all appear on screen.
GPS is fast and seemingly accurate so far. Recognized by every app that has looked for it.
OEM vehicle status listed properly in the 'vehicle' section
Amp/Fader/ViperFX all work as expected
WiFi connections are strong enough for my purpose. I can connect to my home WiFi from inside my garage.
AM/FM Reception and clarity are better than the stock system
Screen is bright and usable and auto-dims with Headlights on
Daylight brightness is a little difficult to see. (Then again I live in Florida and the tropical Sun made even my JVC, and Pioneer HU's difficult to see. Kenwood was the best for this IMHO)
OBDii interfaced paired quickly and easily and has so far stayed connected and recognized by apps
OEM Rear-view camera connects to the system without issue and is much easier to see on a 10" screen. As well as now having several configurable options in the "factory settings"
OEM USB port is recognized as well as the 2 additional USB ports included with the HU.
HOWEVER, the OEM AUX audio port is not usable with this configuration. (or if it is, I haven't figured out how to configure/access it yet)
I do not have a DAB+ or Front Camera, TV tuner/DVR so I do not have any information to share about those.
I tested the A/V in with a portable DVD player and there were no unusual issues there.
Over all I am very happy with this unit and am thrilled that I took the risk investing in it.
One more BIG thanks to everyone here who has helped to make these HU's worth it!
Thanks for the detailed write up. I just ordered mine. Px5 7 inch 2gb ram dasaita. Any tips for a newbie? I've been browsing the forums myself for the past couple of weeks and I'm aware of all the mods and custom ROMs etc. Just asking you if there's maybe any advice you wanna give on how I should proceed with the unit or just generally anything that might help.
Appreciate any reply
I have Dasaita/Hotaudio HA2100-v600 7" device and happy - it works here good!
@ Nasty_z: Stock rom & MCU and ModRom
excessdivide said:
My OBDII adapter arrived today and it immediately paired with my HU, and Torque Pro recognized it instantly! I'm thrilled at how easy this was.
For those interested, this is the adapter I purchased:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y6HLRKY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
So to recap:
My unit is:
MTCD HA5217-V600
10.2 " PX5 1.6 gHz, Octa-core, 2Gb/32Gb
Malaysk v5 ROM and MCU: MTCE v2.65f
Installed in 2016 Toyota Corolla S (6 speaker audio w/o factory "Entune" navigation system) and Rockford-Fosgate Prime's in both front and back.
SWC = all preprogrammed settings match my OEM settings, although they are unconfigurable.
Bluetooth connections have not yet dropped, volume and clarity are on pair with my previous Pioneer HU
Panel buttons all work and LEDs are configurable
Door and A/C controls all appear on screen.
GPS is fast and seemingly accurate so far. Recognized by every app that has looked for it.
OEM vehicle status listed properly in the 'vehicle' section
Amp/Fader/ViperFX all work as expected
WiFi connections are strong enough for my purpose. I can connect to my home WiFi from inside my garage.
AM/FM Reception and clarity are better than the stock system
Screen is bright and usable and auto-dims with Headlights on
Daylight brightness is a little difficult to see. (Then again I live in Florida and the tropical Sun made even my JVC, and Pioneer HU's difficult to see. Kenwood was the best for this IMHO)
OBDii interfaced paired quickly and easily and has so far stayed connected and recognized by apps
OEM Rear-view camera connects to the system without issue and is much easier to see on a 10" screen. As well as now having several configurable options in the "factory settings"
OEM USB port is recognized as well as the 2 additional USB ports included with the HU.
HOWEVER, the OEM AUX audio port is not usable with this configuration. (or if it is, I haven't figured out how to configure/access it yet)
I do not have a DAB+ or Front Camera, TV tuner/DVR so I do not have any information to share about those.
I tested the A/V in with a portable DVD player and there were no unusual issues there.
Over all I am very happy with this unit and am thrilled that I took the risk investing in it.
One more BIG thanks to everyone here who has helped to make these HU's worth it!
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Hi, I'm a fellow Corolla owner in FL As well!
I just bought a Dasaita PX3 2GB RAM 16GB (Quad core vs your 8 core PX5 due to it being close to $300 flat on an ebay flash sale) and have a question regarding the AUX port, you said the stock USB was retained but not the AUX, is there an aux port on your unit or any way to hook one up?
-Where did you mount the GPS antenna?
-Are you using the stock interface, or have you tried any launchers? I downloaded auto mate and Car Launcher free and so far like Car Launcher's look.
-Anything unusual with your unit?
-Have you tested Waze and Google maps? Do they run stable?
-Does your unit pickup your wifi automatically when you startup the car?
I appreciate your very detailed post as I'm patiently waiting for mines to arrive within the next week.
gab2012 said:
Hi, I'm a fellow Corolla owner in FL As well!
I appreciate your very detailed post as I'm patiently waiting for mines to arrive within the next week.
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I have a question regarding the AUX port, you said the stock USB was retained but not the AUX, is there an aux port on your unit or any way to hook one up?
*Sad to say that I have not yet found a way to use the AUX port, but then again I haven't tried very hard.
-Where did you mount the GPS antenna?
*I mounted mine on the passenger side dashboard, as far right and forward as it would go. It blends right in as far as I am concerned.
-Are you using the stock interface, or have you tried any launchers? I downloaded auto mate and Car Launcher free and so far like Car Launcher's look.
*I Bought Car Launcher Pro. By far the best overall. It has been steadily updated, has a great look/feel, easy to modify and the most stable.
-Anything unusual with your unit?
*Nothing that I can think of. I'm still in love with it!
-Have you tested Waze and Google maps? Do they run stable?
*I don't use Google Maps, but I have Waze autostart. I'm dependent upon it now! Lots of threads here about Google Maps not working well.
-Does your unit pickup your wifi automatically when you startup the car?
*as of HA-2.75 it does.
You |may| have to trim a piece or 2 off the bezel to get it to fit perfectly in your dash. I had to cut off 2 tabs on top of my PX5.
Good luck!
I have a similar 9" unit.
Running Malaysk v5 ROM and MTCE v2.71 as the bluetooth for 2.75 didn't work well.
I do have the DAB+ aerial and app and it works ok however mostly I use Google music. I have no problems using Waze or copilot.
What I haven't been able to do is get my reversing camera to show on the screen. I have a wireless version and both halfs have leds that light up when the car is in reverse but no picture regardless of which connection I use.
Also I can't get it to connect to a ELM357 OBD2 dongle.
I've had the unit for 4 months and last week while driving to work the screen went black, the unit was still working it was just the screen. The next time I started the car the screen came back....weird.
Other then this the units ace!
excessdivide said:
I have a question regarding the AUX port, you said the stock USB was retained but not the AUX, is there an aux port on your unit or any way to hook one up?
*Sad to say that I have not yet found a way to use the AUX port, but then again I haven't tried very hard.
-Where did you mount the GPS antenna?
*I mounted mine on the passenger side dashboard, as far right and forward as it would go. It blends right in as far as I am concerned.
-Are you using the stock interface, or have you tried any launchers? I downloaded auto mate and Car Launcher free and so far like Car Launcher's look.
*I Bought Car Launcher Pro. By far the best overall. It has been steadily updated, has a great look/feel, easy to modify and the most stable.
-Anything unusual with your unit?
*Nothing that I can think of. I'm still in love with it!
-Have you tested Waze and Google maps? Do they run stable?
*I don't use Google Maps, but I have Waze autostart. I'm dependent upon it now! Lots of threads here about Google Maps not working well.
-Does your unit pickup your wifi automatically when you startup the car?
*as of HA-2.75 it does.
You |may| have to trim a piece or 2 off the bezel to get it to fit perfectly in your dash. I had to cut off 2 tabs on top of my PX5.
Good luck!
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Just to give you a quick update, I received my PX3 unit about a week ago and installed it. At first I encountered one main bug which was that the radio app would go to the background automatically every time I opened it, dasaita sent me the link to the MCU thread and everything updated fixing the issue.
As far as launchers go, I stuck with Car Web Guru for now as it gave the most options on a free basis to experiment with different themes.
The only thing I've noticed is that the backup camera image is a little laggy but nothing to die for.
The only thing I'm still trying to figure out is how to get my wifi hotspot to start automatically (Note 8) when connected to CAR KIT, I tried tasker but it says unable for my device.
I love this HU! and Dasaita on ebay has been very responsive.
gab2012 said:
Just to give you a quick update, I received my PX3 unit about a week ago and installed it. At first I encountered one main bug which was that the radio app would go to the background automatically every time I opened it, dasaita sent me the link to the MCU thread and everything updated fixing the issue.
As far as launchers go, I stuck with Car Web Guru for now as it gave the most options on a free basis to experiment with different themes.
The only thing I've noticed is that the backup camera image is a little laggy but nothing to die for.
The only thing I'm still trying to figure out is how to get my wifi hotspot to start automatically (Note 8) when connected to CAR KIT, I tried tasker but it says unable for my device.
I love this HU! and Dasaita on ebay has been very responsive.
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Hello I have bought a Dasaita HA2039-S720 for Mitsubishi Outlander 2014. I have the same Issue with my Radio App. Everytime I open it, it goes in background. Kill it with the Task Manager can't stop the Music. I have to reboot the Device. I have MCU Version MTCE_HA_V2.75.1 and ROM px3-userdebug 7.1.2NHG47L eng.hct.20171206.143935 test-keys.
Did a system update realy fix your Problem? I noticed that this happend every time a station is scanned and saved. Delete the Cache and Programm Data from Radio App in the App section fixed the issue but you have no music then but white noise.
I have some Issues with apps in general. Sometimes Apps are crashing and did not load properly and stuck while loading.
My OEM Rear CAM Image is laggy and not very smooth too.
Today I tried to update die Rom with this Version HCT2_px3_7.1(20180206) but it failed. Don't know if it's the right one. The Device found this Image and promptet me to update. After a short loading screen a Faild message appeared on the screen and it showed an options screen. I inserted another SD CARD with the image of the update and choosed "update from SD or USB" but it failed again so I rebooted the system. I choose swipe in the beginning and after a reboot the system was in factory condition.
But can anybody explain me what went wrong and how to properly make a Rom and MCU update.
Thanx
Hey guys I just wanted to become a part of this I just purchased and installed this type radio along with the Bluetooth adapter for the cars computer. Hopefully I will soon get the ATSC digital antenna so I can watch TV when my wife goes in to shop for something that will supposedly: "only take a minute." I have to say the install was incredibly easy. Everything works very well and sounded great connected to my factory system of the 2013 Kia Optima. I did use the radio's subwoofer output and added a 300 watt powered Rockford Fosgate subwoofer. It all sounds amazing together. I attached two photos of the type of radio I purchased (or tried to. Kinda new here).
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I am looking at one of these model for my Ford Focus, but can anyone tell me if it come with a separate canbus?? The only reason I am asking is that I have the V840-8 which doesn’t.... unfortunately it only has a prgramable key control, which doesn’t always work...
Many thanks for anyone that can help
Bradsr12 said:
I am looking at one of these model for my Ford Focus, but can anyone tell me if it come with a separate canbus?? The only reason I am asking is that I have the V840-8 which doesn’t.... unfortunately it only has a prgramable key control, which doesn’t always work...
Many thanks for anyone that can help
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Hello
i don't know which model Focus you have. I have a Focus MK3 from 2012 and i just ordered this unithttps://nl.aliexpress.com/item/Dasaita-Android-8-0-4g-32g-Car-Radio-for-Ford-Focus-2012-2013-2014-2015-Multimedia/32889176494.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.1e934c4diSRsuQ
and it comes with a canbus adapter and works great. i received it today and installed it. Everything works out of the box.
Thank you so much for your reply, mine is the Ford Focus mk2 2010 so slightly different, however despite the stereo surround the unit is the same, it the harness is a different connection... mine is a square connection
Really appreciate your help
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May I ask if yours is the V600??
Bradsr12 said:
Thank you so much for your reply, mine is the Ford Focus mk2 2010 so slightly different, however despite the stereo surround the unit is the same, it the harness is a different connection... mine is a square connection
Really appreciate your help
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May I ask if yours is the V600??
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http://www.hot-audio.com/category/Ford-3.html
I tink they have a car specific unit for you too. Just check out their site. The benefits of these units is that it will fit perfect in your car and all cables and adapters are included...
Btw I have a v840-8 unit
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I would like to know the boot time for this Android 8 version? I am looking at getting one for my Chevy Cruze but the boot time is a big thing for me.
scotch&dry said:
I would like to know the boot time for this Android 8 version? I am looking at getting one for my Chevy Cruze but the boot time is a big thing for me.
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My Dasaita PX5 4/32 unit (MCU version 2.88) turns completely off in 30 seconds (lowest preset in system settings) after turning the ignition off.
When turning the ignition on the unit is starting up behind the scenes. When you press power it's already half way in the booting process or even done depending on how quick you switch the unit on.
I'd say about 15 seconds to boot up. This is with a DAB+ unit and USB stick attached.
If you want instant on (e.g. when shopping for an hour or doing multiple deliveries), you can play with the different off time presets in the system settings.
TBM2 said:
My Dasaita PX5 4/32 unit (MCU version 2.88) turns completely off in 30 seconds (lowest preset in system settings) after turning the ignition off.
When turning the ignition on the unit is starting up behind the scenes. When you press power it's already half way in the booting process or even done depending on how quick you switch the unit on.
I'd say about 15 seconds to boot up. This is with a DAB+ unit and USB stick attached.
If you want instant on (e.g. when shopping for an hour or doing multiple deliveries), you can play with the different off time presets in the system settings.
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Awesome. Thanks for this info @TBM2
How good is the microphone performance? I have an old android headunit that I could never get mics to work properly on. Voice calls and "Okay Google" is important for me when I upgrade.
Grims said:
How good is the microphone performance? I have an old android headunit that I could never get mics to work properly on. Voice calls and "Okay Google" is important for me when I upgrade.
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It's an MTCD - they're pretty much all the same.
For best peformance on this platform, use an external mic, which may require the internal disconnected.
marchnz said:
It's an MTCD - they're pretty much all the same.
For best peformance on this platform, use an external mic, which may require the internal disconnected.
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Sorry, I'm just curious as I just got one for my car installed... but the internal microphone performance is horrible. The box came w/ an external microphone, but is there something i need to do to disable the internal microphone?
scotch&dry said:
I would like to know the boot time for this Android 8 version? I am looking at getting one for my Chevy Cruze but the boot time is a big thing for me.
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Like any MTCD unit, first boot is approx 15-20 secs, with the unit sleeping thereafter resulting in 'instant' resume.
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Hi everyone - a little desperate here. I have a Dasaita 10.2" Android 8.0, Octa Core 4GB+32GB in my Jeep Wrangler. Amazing unit overall but the amplifier app doesn’t seem to give me any EQ, Balance/Fade or Subwoofer control. If I move the sliders around nothing happens to the sound. I reached out to Dasaita and the response was that I cannot use an aftermarket amp with this unit - doesn’t that seem absurd? I would think the RCA outputs could output to any amp. Really hoping someone has has experience with this... thanks!!
Lkinmond said:
Hi everyone - a little desperate here. I have a Dasaita 10.2" Android 8.0, Octa Core 4GB+32GB in my Jeep Wrangler. Amazing unit overall but the amplifier app doesn’t seem to give me any EQ, Balance/Fade or Subwoofer control. If I move the sliders around nothing happens to the sound. I reached out to Dasaita and the response was that I cannot use an aftermarket amp with this unit - doesn’t that seem absurd? I would think the RCA outputs could output to any amp. Really hoping someone has has experience with this... thanks!!
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I installed mine and am running into the same issue. Does anyone have a solution? No RCA outputs that I can see. I am thinking about returning it.
TreesOnTheBeach said:
I installed mine and am running into the same issue. Does anyone have a solution? No RCA outputs that I can see. I am thinking about returning it.
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Ok ur rcas don't work... take ur speaker lines add an rca onto each one and continue to setup as u normally would. Now if u hav no sound from the unit then it is broken
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TreesOnTheBeach said:
I installed mine and am running into the same issue. Does anyone have a solution? No RCA outputs that I can see. I am thinking about returning it.
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My RCA outputs work fine though as previously pointed out the Fader and EQ controls seem to have no effect. You can use a music player like PowerAmp which has its own EQ controls to get around it... I've reached out to Dasaita to see what's going on...
I have a similar unit from dasaita, nissan murano.
I am using RCA to my amp, and the built in equalizer and loudness work fine.
The only issue is I am hearing a small static noise when no music is playing.
Change canbus settings
I just installed the v840 7in version in my jk last week on 8/5/18. First thing I did was check how itsounds. Went to the EQ and did not work no setting made any sound change and the fader did not work. My heart fell out and I was ready to send it back.
I went ahead and updated the system files to the most recent but did not change anything with the eq or fader. I then recalled discussion on Jeep forum to change the canbus settings. When I went in the settings it was Jeep 46 I changed it to Jeep 78 and voila EQ works and also the fader although the fade is reversed which I already knew was an issue. Only difference is I don't have an amplifier so I cannot verify that issue although others have amps working fine with full eq functionality.
RESOLVED: Dasaita fader/EQ control w/ external amps
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For those reporting issues with built in EQ and fader controls on Dasaita PX5 Octacore units not working with aftermarket amplification I figured out the settings....
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Open up system settings and navigate to "CAR" and then "Factory Settings"
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Enter the Password '126' to get you into the Factory menu. Navigate to the "CanBus" tab:
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Change the selection under Amplifier from "With amplifier" to "Without amplifier", click [APPLY] followed by [EXIT] and let the system reboot.
RESOLVED: Dasaita fader/EQ control w/ external amps
Use the jeep 46 setting to access the amp option
VertJeep said:
Use the jeep 46 setting to access the amp option
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Thanks for the info, It works for me, but the bigger problem is, the factory alpine amp don't seems to work, no bass at all.
I have checked every jk forum i can find but no solution. ppl mentioned Pac canbus a lot. but I prefer the unit work it self out.
akassi said:
Thanks for the info, It works for me, but the bigger problem is, the factory alpine amp don't seems to work, no bass at all.
I have checked every jk forum i can find but no solution. ppl mentioned Pac canbus a lot. but I prefer the unit work it self out.
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I dont have a jeep, but there is a similar issue with the tundras, if they were using the stock amp they needed to have a CANbus decoder to utilize the factory amp some units have them already installed some don't.
bsavoir22 said:
I dont have a jeep, but there is a similar issue with the tundras, if they were using the stock amp they needed to have a CANbus decoder to utilize the factory amp some units have them already installed some don't.
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Thanks, guess I will have to cut off the garbage they provided and rewire the harness.
I got this Disaita for a 2014 Jeep Wrangler JKU with the factory alpine sub/amp. The sound works great. It's true you can't control the fade/balance of it because the jeep's computer is controlling it. I know the OP has an aftermarket one, but that could be what Disaita thinks you are talking about. The included canbus, wiring harness, etc all worked out of the box.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0796VPGG3/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
2012 FJ Cruiser install here. Same issue. I changed the factory canbus settings, but don’t understand the options. I am getting rear sub output but no fade control at all. I don’t know enough to retire it all, nor do I have the time or patience.
Hi
My auto radio version is:
px3-userdebug 7.1.2 NHG47L eng.hct20180
MTCE_XRC_V2.80_1
2Gb/ 16Gb
https://es.aliexpress.com/item/Isud...452.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.215563c05GDxho
My Car: Alfa Romeo 159
Since a month ago, I´m trying to resolve my problem. Only 50% buttons swc are working:
My android radio has canbus box. I have accessed and configured canbus in "factory settings tap" but my problem continue ( by default canbus wasn´t configured ).
The app to remap the buttons does not detect any button on the steering wheel, it only shows "Reset" and "Save" but I can not do anything with it.
I have reading a lot of post... Is possible that I need to connect wire Key1 and wire Key2? How should I connect "key1" and "key2"? Could it be the solution?
Any kind of help is welcome. Thank you very much
moreno_cos said:
Hi
My auto radio version is:
px3-userdebug 7.1.2 NHG47L eng.hct20180
MTCE_XRC_V2.80_1
2Gb/ 16Gb
https://es.aliexpress.com/item/Isud...452.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.215563c05GDxho
My Car: Alfa Romeo 159
Since a month ago, I´m trying to resolve my problem. Only 50% buttons swc are working:
My android radio has canbus box. I have accessed and configured canbus in "factory settings tap" but my problem continue ( by default canbus wasn´t configured ).
The app to remap the buttons does not detect any button on the steering wheel, it only shows "Reset" and "Save" but I can not do anything with it.
I have reading a lot of post... Is possible that I need to connect wire Key1 and wire Key2? How should I connect "key1" and "key2"? Could it be the solution?
Any kind of help is welcome. Thank you very much
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Check that allí connectors from/to canbus and to the headunit are well connected (sometimes they require some force press to really be plugged)
On the link you provided there is a guy that commented that everything worked as expected including the SWC so....if you can't fix it contact your seller for support
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moreno_cos said:
Hi
My auto radio version is:
px3-userdebug 7.1.2 NHG47L eng.hct20180
MTCE_XRC_V2.80_1
2Gb/ 16Gb
https://es.aliexpress.com/item/Isud...452.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.215563c05GDxho
My Car: Alfa Romeo 159
Since a month ago, I´m trying to resolve my problem. Only 50% buttons swc are working:
My android radio has canbus box. I have accessed and configured canbus in "factory settings tap" but my problem continue ( by default canbus wasn´t configured ).
The app to remap the buttons does not detect any button on the steering wheel, it only shows "Reset" and "Save" but I can not do anything with it.
I have reading a lot of post... Is possible that I need to connect wire Key1 and wire Key2? How should I connect "key1" and "key2"? Could it be the solution?
Any kind of help is welcome. Thank you very much
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On 1st photo the 3 "red" buttons are only working with the "original" factory installed "blue&Me" equipment, no other hardware can use or decode them.
On 2nd photo the 2 "red" button are only working with the original factory installed "blue&Me" equipment ad use to switch information on Factory Magneti Marelli multimedia/navigation unit during calls, with standard "simply" Alfa Romeo car stereo they are only working on charging disc from official CD Charger; no other hardware can use or decode them.
On some cases "non standard hard coded manufacturer swc" have funny responses; in my case Voice command button open the app carousel in my HU and the Open/close a phone call button activate the Mute function.
Check you Alfa Romeo Use and Maintenance Guide and Blue&Me User manual thaere was all the info provided by me.
So the other SWC are working like expected!
iRcKenny said:
On 1st photo the 3 "red" buttons are only working with the "original" factory installed "blue&Me" equipment, no other hardware can use or decode them.
On 2nd photo the 2 "red" button are only working with the original factory installed "blue&Me" equipment ad use to switch information on Factory Magneti Marelli multimedia/navigation unit during calls, with standard "simply" Alfa Romeo car stereo they are only working on charging disc from official CD Charger; no other hardware can use or decode them.
On some cases "non standard hard coded manufacturer swc" have funny responses; in my case Voice command button open the app carousel in my HU and the Open/close a phone call button activate the Mute function.
Check you Alfa Romeo Use and Maintenance Guide and Blue&Me User manual thaere was all the info provided by me.
So the other SWC are working like expected!
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On 1st photo: I agree with you. My alfa romeo is a car of 2007 and it hasn´t blue&me installed. I did not know if I could use these buttons with the new radio
On 2nd photo: The buttons were working with my original radio. I could change the memorized radio programs. I've seen in some YouTube video, how this function is still operational with the android radio car and I would like use its.
Thank you very much for your help
moreno_cos said:
On 1st photo: I agree with you. My alfa romeo is a car of 2007 and it hasn´t blue&me installed. I did not know if I could use these buttons with the new radio
On 2nd photo: The buttons were working with my original radio. I could change the memorized radio programs. I've seen in some YouTube video, how this function is still operational with the android radio car and I would like use its.
Thank you very much for your help
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Try long pressing the ones for "skip tracks/seek radio stations". My units acts like this. Try also all "Alfa Romes" canbus entries on Factory Settings
iRcKenny said:
On 1st photo the 3 "red" buttons are only working with the "original" factory installed "blue&Me" equipment, no other hardware can use or decode them.
On 2nd photo the 2 "red" button are only working with the original factory installed "blue&Me" equipment ad use to switch information on Factory Magneti Marelli multimedia/navigation unit during calls, with standard "simply" Alfa Romeo car stereo they are only working on charging disc from official CD Charger; no other hardware can use or decode them.
On some cases "non standard hard coded manufacturer swc" have funny responses; in my case Voice command button open the app carousel in my HU and the Open/close a phone call button activate the Mute function.
Check you Alfa Romeo Use and Maintenance Guide and Blue&Me User manual thaere was all the info provided by me.
So the other SWC are working like expected!
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iRcKenny said:
Try long pressing the ones for "skip tracks/seek radio stations". My units acts like this. Try also all "Alfa Romes" canbus entries on Factory Settings
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Long pressing not working, and I´ve tried to configure canbus tap but it not resolve de issue
Thank you again
Hi!!
My Alfa 159 works like yours, only 4 buttons are working. I had one unit android 5.1 before the 7.1.2 and everything from swc work.
If you have the solution please MP
Ruiroach said:
Hi!!
My Alfa 159 works like yours, only 4 buttons are working. I had one unit android 5.1 before the 7.1.2 and everything from swc work.
If you have the solution please MP
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The seller send me a rom update, but I don´t sure to update the radio... Will it solve the problem or will it further damage it...
I can send you the rom if yo want it
moreno_cos said:
The seller send me a rom update, but I don´t sure to update the radio... Will it solve the problem or will it further damage it...
I can send you the rom if yo want it
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I dont think it will make any difference, there is a way that MTCDTools can remap SWC on cars with CAN Bus, @ikerg can tell you how to do it or what thread its in.
typos1 said:
I dont think it will make any difference, there is a way that MTCDTools can remap SWC on cars with CAN Bus, @ikerg can tell you how to do it or what thread its in.
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any ideas please?
moreno_cos said:
any ideas please?
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pm @ikerg or search the forums, hes deffo mentioned how to do it on CAN Bus units before.
typos1 said:
pm @ikerg or search the forums, hes deffo mentioned how to do it on CAN Bus units before.
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Found said posts and they were for car which communicate with resistive signals via canbus (or something ), so wiring the canbus from car harness directly to key1/2 gives access to the buttons.
If Alfa uses no resistive signals, you wont get away with this.
GM cars like mine have the buttons via hardcoded addresses via canbus and you can only try to find those codes in android or mod MCU profile it seems... too nub to do so in my case.. trying hard
Xorit said:
Found said posts and they were for car which communicate with resistive signals via canbus (or something ), so wiring the canbus from car harness directly to key1/2 gives access to the buttons.
If Alfa uses no resistive signals, you wont get away with this.
GM cars like mine have the buttons via hardcoded addresses via canbus and you can only try to find those codes in android or mod MCU profile it seems... too nub to do so in my case.. trying hard
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Theyre not the posts I was talking about - pretty certain theres a way to programme CAN Bus SWC.
Alfa 159s have CAN Bus SWC.
I've had a similar problem with my Alfa 159 when I installed a PX3 unit. However, for me all the SWC buttons except the centre button on the left set work (i.e. pic 1) and only the left and right SWC buttons on the right set (i.e. pic 2). It is weird as the buttons that do not work mimic the other buttons for some reason so it's like crossing of signals or decoding it wrong.
As I didn't find anyone else having a problem I assumed it was either the CAN bus decoder (I opened it up and flipped switch 4 which helped I think but maybe it isn't suitable?) or the connection behind the steering wheel is loose. I haven't got round to checking the connection (apparently it's simple to open) as I can still control most things.
BTW, my car had the blue&me installed from factory.
SWC on Alfa Romeo 159
H all, I just installed a new Android head unit in my Alfa Romeo 159 SW (2006) and all the SWC's work and I can map them from the app. Below I will explain how I did it, hope this will help.
My head unit:
Xtrons TE706PL
PX 5 octacore 4GB 32BG Android 8
My car:
Alfa Romeo 159 SW
Upgraded from original radio (so not the navigation unit)
My car did not have Blue&Me
Required hardware:
Dedicated CANBUS adapter
Connect2 (company that make it) CTSAR002.2 (product number)
Patch lead to go with canbus adapter
Connect2 (company that make it) CTMULTILEAD.2 (product number)
I ordered both from Amazon Germany from seller NIQ. The patch lead was included with the CANBUS adapter, just make sure to select the correct one meant for Chinese head units. Price was 60 euros.
Installation
The CANBUS adapter is connected between the original car connections and the head unit. This looks confusing at first (it has connections on three sides), but in the end everything only fits one way. On one side connect the patch lead, on the other side it is connected to the head unit and on the last side it is connected to the original car plugs. All these connections are very simple with plugs that only fit one way. (I did need quite some force to push in the 2 of the 3 original plugs into the CANBUS adapter)
As mentioned, the patch lead is connected to the CANBUS adapter on one side. On the other side you need to connect it to the KEY 1, KEY 2 and GROUND wire coming from the head unit. This was the only connection that is not made with plugs, so either crimp them together (which I did, very simple, but you need a crimping tool), solder them, or make another good wire to wire connection.
Important notes:
The connection need to be made in a specific order!
First connect KEY 1, KEY 2 and GRND wires
Second connect the CANBUS adapter to the head unit
Last step is to connect the CANBUS adapter to the car connections
My car did not have Blue&Me, so I don't know if this changes anything. I think I read somewhere you can just leave it in the car and not connect it. But maybe do a little research.
All this is also specified in the manuals provided with the products. Connects2 has some nice youtube videos on the CANBUS adapters, just google them.
I did quite some research myself before I figured it out, but now all is installed and working perfectly! I reprogrammed all the keys to my own preferences, including google assistant speech activation button.
Hope this helps!
SJ1977 said:
H all, I just installed a new Android head unit in my Alfa Romeo 159 SW (2006) and all the SWC's work and I can map them from the app. Below I will explain how I did it, hope this will help.
My head unit:
Xtrons TE706PL
PX 5 octacore 4GB 32BG Android 8
My car:
Alfa Romeo 159 SW
Upgraded from original radio (so not the navigation unit)
My car did not have Blue&Me
Required hardware:
Dedicated CANBUS adapter
Connect2 (company that make it) CTSAR002.2 (product number)
Patch lead to go with canbus adapter
Connect2 (company that make it) CTMULTILEAD.2 (product number)
I ordered both from Amazon Germany from seller NIQ. The patch lead was included with the CANBUS adapter, just make sure to select the correct one meant for Chinese head units. Price was 60 euros.
Installation
The CANBUS adapter is connected between the original car connections and the head unit. This looks confusing at first (it has connections on three sides), but in the end everything only fits one way. On one side connect the patch lead, on the other side it is connected to the head unit and on the last side it is connected to the original car plugs. All these connections are very simple with plugs that only fit one way. (I did need quite some force to push in the 2 of the 3 original plugs into the CANBUS adapter)
As mentioned, the patch lead is connected to the CANBUS adapter on one side. On the other side you need to connect it to the KEY 1, KEY 2 and GROUND wire coming from the head unit. This was the only connection that is not made with plugs, so either crimp them together (which I did, very simple, but you need a crimping tool), solder them, or make another good wire to wire connection.
Important notes:
The connection need to be made in a specific order!
First connect KEY 1, KEY 2 and GRND wires
Second connect the CANBUS adapter to the head unit
Last step is to connect the CANBUS adapter to the car connections
My car did not have Blue&Me, so I don't know if this changes anything. I think I read somewhere you can just leave it in the car and not connect it. But maybe do a little research.
All this is also specified in the manuals provided with the products. Connects2 has some nice youtube videos on the CANBUS adapters, just google them.
I did quite some research myself before I figured it out, but now all is installed and working perfectly! I reprogrammed all the keys to my own preferences, including google assistant speech activation button.
Hope this helps!
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Thanks for the info, but what unit do you have ? - "TE706PL" is a made up name, your MCU will tell us what unit it is, I m guessing a GS ?
typos1 said:
Thanks for the info, but what unit do you have ? - "TE706PL" is a made up name, your MCU will tell us what unit it is, I m guessing a GS ?
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Sorry, I was not near my car, so couldn't find my MCU version. But here it is:
MTCE_GS_V2.88_3
Jun 12 2018 11:17:36
I have a PX5 and have the same issue.
I see people talking about their chinesses mtcd/e read all the can protocols (open doors, all the swc, radio info to main pannel...)
Talking to my seller, he told me that may be the can decoder. Offers me a refund but I want one that works 100%.
¿Someone have the full functional decoder?
bantroi said:
I have a PX5 and have the same issue.
I see people talking about their chinesses mtcd/e read all the can protocols (open doors, all the swc, radio info to main pannel...)
Talking to my seller, he told me that may be the can decoder. Offers me a refund but I want one that works 100%.
¿Someone have the full functional decoder?
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More likely that its just not supported, some cars have even less support.
bantroi said:
I have a PX5 and have the same issue.
I see people talking about their chinesses mtcd/e read all the can protocols (open doors, all the swc, radio info to main pannel...)
Talking to my seller, he told me that may be the can decoder. Offers me a refund but I want one that works 100%.
¿Someone have the full functional decoder?
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That's what Im trying to find, a canbus decoder with more options.
I had the alfa 159 android 5.1 unit and It shows temperature, doors and full keys function. I upgraded to a new unit android 7.1 and now I haven't temperature, doors and only half of keys are working.
Hello everyone,
I have a Dasaita PX5 and Android 8.0 for my Jeep Compass 2018. Problem is that (1) steering wheel controls have stopped working. Used to work for a while when the unit was first installed then one day just ceased to function. And (2) reverse camera video is blinking after driving for around 20-30 mins (doesn’t blink when engine is on and not running)
I've updated both the MCU (V3.45) and system update (20190731) to the latest ones in hopes of fixing it. I also went to factory settings and tried all canbus that had "Jeep" on it and selected the right model of the car but SWC still not working including the controls at the back of the steering wheel. The only thing that's working is the right side of the steering wheel which is the cruise control function.
I had an auto electrician check it and said “there's no problem with electrical side“ and now he's saying maybe the switches are broken (which I doubt) cos when the car battery was changed not long ago (SWC already not working this time), SWC came back to life but only for short period of time.
Please help me figure this out. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
PS: also posted on android head unit thread. I wasn’t sure if I was posting in the right one. Thanks!
I'd try to disconnect the car battery for some minutes and see if the steering wheel controls return to work at least for some time.
If so, the head unit canbus adapter might be faulty,
I'd say there's a loose connection in the power feed of the CANbus decoder. More likely the ground wire is the problem. It could be loose or broken at either ends (including inside the decoder box) or along the length. Your electrician should know how to test for that.
Thanks for the reply guys. I’ll check this out and inform my electrician. Do you think the camera issue is related to this as well? I might need to order a new canbus adapter..
The HU gets the transmission is in reverse signal from the CANbus box so if the box kicks in and out so will the backup camera.
I put back the factory unit back in (factory unit worked without issues) but the steering wheel buttons still didn't work. Does this mean that the problem lies in the steering wheel buttons and not in the CANbus decoder?