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I've heard plenty of people comment that all snapdragon variants will not be able to unlock the bootloader. As far as I can tell though this has just been speculation based on the s7 and s8. Is there anyone who has an unlocked model that can confirm they can't unlock the bootloader?
Additionally, if anyone has the T-Mobile variant can you confirm you can't unlock the bootloader on it.
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I've heard plenty of people comment that all snapdragon variants will not be able to unlock the bootloader. As far as I can tell though this has just been speculation based on the s7 and s8. Is there anyone who has an unlocked model that can confirm they can't unlock the bootloader?
Additionally, if anyone has the T-Mobile variant can you confirm you can't unlock the bootloader on it.
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I have Snapdragon with unlocked bootloader. Hong Kong variant - SM-G9650. You can find it on ebay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...hash=item33e4a7f7bc:m:mnFRmnuhEaxfI-dzrYsceIg
varcor said:
I have Snapdragon with unlocked bootloader. Hong Kong variant - SM-G9650. You can find it on ebay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...hash=item33e4a7f7bc:m:mnFRmnuhEaxfI-dzrYsceIg
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Is it worth buying? I've read that they're terrible at getting updates. The S8+ equivalent (G9550) hasn't even gotten Oreo yet, and SamMobile shows *very* few firmwares for it:
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/galaxy-s8/SM-G9550/
varcor said:
I have Snapdragon with unlocked bootloader. Hong Kong variant - SM-G9650. You can find it on ebay.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...hash=item33e4a7f7bc:m:mnFRmnuhEaxfI-dzrYsceIg
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Yep the HK snapdragons are always unlocked.
The rest will 100% ve locked down so its either the HK snap or exynos if you want an unlocked BL.
The exynos gets all the development attend though the HK version doesnt see much.
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Yep the HK snapdragons are always unlocked.
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Does that mean that they come with Knox tripped? As far as I know that was the price to pay when unlocking the other variants, meaning you'd lose Samsung Pay and some camera features.
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Does that mean that they come with Knox tripped? As far as I know that was the price to pay when unlocking the other variants, meaning you'd lose Samsung Pay and some camera features.
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No of course knox isnt tripped, why would it be?
And unlocking the exynos does not trip knox either flashing twrp will though.
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Is it worth buying? I've read that they're terrible at getting updates. The S8+ equivalent (G9550) hasn't even gotten Oreo yet, and SamMobile shows *very* few firmwares for it:
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/galaxy-s8/SM-G9550/
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With respect to updates you're likely correct, that model will not get the 1st updates. Firmware is typically model specific but it's true you'll see fewer custom ROM's compared to Exynos devices. There's no such thing as a perfect device so then it comes down to what are the primary functions you plan on using? I'm into gaming in which Snapdragon has a clear edge over Exynos but I still wanted an unlocked bootloader for future modifications. So far all US devices are limited to 64gb Internal Memory, not enough for me. Also I travel globally a few times a year so Dual SIM's are a must and not an option in the USA. Samsung Pay was an issue but that has been resolved and now works in the USA on Snapdragon variants, not sure if that's the case with Exynos powered devices. To me the only downside to the device is no voLTE or WiFi Calling but even without those features I don't have issues when communicating via voice calls. As far as not having a warranty it's never come back to bite me on my S6, S7 or S8 but I'm careful with a device, they're too expensive nowadays not to handle with care. One more thing I've noticed in the posts related to International Galaxy devices, Exynos powered units seem to have more bugs. Could be that's due to, at least on this forum more International variants have Exynos chipsets. No doubt a following post will tout "I have Exynos and it works fine", which is likely the case for most owners. Only time will tell.
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With respect to updates you're likely correct, that model will not get the 1st updates. Firmware is typically model specific but it's true you'll see fewer custom ROM's compared to Exynos devices. There's no such thing as a perfect device so then it comes down to what are the primary functions you plan on using? I'm into gaming in which Snapdragon has a clear edge over Exynos but I still wanted an unlocked bootloader for future modifications. So far all US devices are limited to 64gb Internal Memory, not enough for me. Also I travel globally a few times a year so Dual SIM's are a must and not an option in the USA. Samsung Pay was an issue but that has been resolved and now works in the USA on Snapdragon variants, not sure if that's the case with Exynos powered devices. To me the only downside to the device is no voLTE or WiFi Calling but even without those features I don't have issues when communicating via voice calls. As far as not having a warranty it's never come back to bite me on my S6, S7 or S8 but I'm careful with a device, they're too expensive nowadays not to handle with care. One more thing I've noticed in the posts related to International Galaxy devices, Exynos powered units seem to have more bugs. Could be that's due to, at least on this forum more International variants have Exynos chipsets. No doubt a following post will tout "I have Exynos and it works fine", which is likely the case for most owners. Only time will tell.
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Exynos versions get far mote frequent OTA updates as compared to snapdrqgons.. they can be typicallly 4 or 5 versions ahead of the north american versions.
This in my opinion could contribute to more bugs as these updates would not be as rigourously tested I wouldn't think.
And as you said there will be people who say their exynos works fine, i have had exynos versions of the s7 edge, note 7 and s8 plus and can say i never noticed any issues. ?
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Hello,
I just got the Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ on September 30th, SM-N975U1 variant, and I cannot toggle the OEM unlocking because it is missing. I read that this is due to the KG state of the phone and I would have to wait 7 days for it to be an option to toggle. I am trying to find out from other Note 10+ users with the same variant as mine if the option appeared after waiting 7 days?
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Hello,
I just got the Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ on September 30th, SM-N975U1 variant, and I cannot toggle the OEM unlocking because it is missing. I read that this is due to the KG state of the phone and I would have to wait 7 days for it to be an option to toggle. I am trying to find out from other Note 10+ users with the same variant as mine if the option appeared after waiting 7 days?
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Unfortunately the "U" variant does not have an unlockable bootloader. The OEM toggle is not there so that variant cannot be rooted (no USA variants can at the moment).
Exynos equals root.
carandcar said:
Unfortunately the "U" variant does not have an unlockable bootloader. The OEM toggle is not there so that variant cannot be rooted (no USA variants can at the moment).
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For realsies? none of the "U" Variant... So I cant root my note 10+ SM-N975U? Dang that really grinds my gears!!!!!!!!
Leave it to samsung to figure out a new way to keep people from rooting their phones... "Hey lets get rid of the OEM unlock toggle, that way they cant unlock the bootloader and root their phone, and will have to keep all the bloatware we, and their carrier, force down their throats against their will, whether they want to or not."
I knew I never should have bought this phone. I swore 6 years ago I would never own another Samsung Device, but then they came out with this cool new phone and I wanted it so bad. I should have just waited until the pixel 4 XL came out and bought it instead.
Guess I'll Know better next time around at least, and by the time I need a new phone hopefully all phones will have the inscreen ultrasonic fingerprint reader.
I HATE YOU SAMSUNG!!!!!!!!
1. You could have informed yourself prior to buying, it is common knowledge US SD-models have locked bootloader and cannot be rooted...
2. It is merely a US-provider requirement to have locked bootloader, not Samsung's choice. Note 10/10+ is rootable in most other parts of the world..
OnnoJ said:
1. You could have informed yourself prior to buying, it is common knowledge US SD-models have locked bootloader and cannot be rooted...
2. It is merely a US-provider requirement to have locked bootloader, not Samsung's choice. Note 10/10+ is rootable in most other parts of the world..
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What do u mean SD Models? Also if it's a us provider requirement then how come you can buy phones that have the OEM unlock option available on them?
Also this page is the first I even heard of it... Every time I search it shows that 7 days after you activate it the OEM unlock shows up. And on top of that just because it's not rootable at the time of purchase doesn't mean somewhere down the line someone won't figure out how to.
In fact my last phone was sold by a carrier, as carrier unlocked, and it had the bootloader toggle on it as well which made rooting a breeze.
I'm sorry but I don't agree with you... It has nothing to do with carriers, it's Samsung who has removed this feature not carriers. This is actually the first phone I've heard of that has the oem bootloader removed from the android software.
And besides that if you buy the carrier unlocked version of the note 10+ it should be your choice what you do with it not carriers and not manufactures.
Oh also I found an article (link below) Where someone managed to root the note 10+ SM-N975U with a patched boot image, which I would assume would also work for SM-N975U1 as well.
So like I said it's only a matter of time before someone figured out how to root it anyway. And my post was me griping at Samsung for doing what they did, and staying if I had waited I could have gotten a device that is made by a company that isn't actively trying to thwart rooting.
Link: http://androidbiits.com/root-samsung-galaxy-note-10-plus-sm-n975u-sm-n975u1-easily/
SD=Snapdragon, the SoC of the N975U/N975U1 phones. Those devices for US market have the locked bootloader.
The models with Exynos SoC (Samsung's own SoC), in models of most international markets N975F have working OEM unlock option and thereby unlockable bootloader.
Why would Samsung provide unlockable bootloader for one part of the world, but not for US where phones have US SoC (I.c. Snapdragon)? You tell me...
Maybe you can join this club: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10+/how-to/bounty-sm-n975u1-note-10-usa-unlocked-t4006249
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What do u mean SD Models? Also if it's a us provider requirement then how come you can buy phones that have the OEM unlock option available on them?
Also this page is the first I even heard of it... Every time I search it shows that 7 days after you activate it the OEM unlock shows up. And on top of that just because it's not rootable at the time of purchase doesn't mean somewhere down the line someone won't figure out how to.
In fact my last phone was sold by a carrier, as carrier unlocked, and it had the bootloader toggle on it as well which made rooting a breeze.
I'm sorry but I don't agree with you... It has nothing to do with carriers, it's Samsung who has removed this feature not carriers. This is actually the first phone I've heard of that has the oem bootloader removed from the android software.
And besides that if you buy the carrier unlocked version of the note 10+ it should be your choice what you do with it not carriers and not manufactures.
Oh also I found an article (link below) Where someone managed to root the note 10+ SM-N975U with a patched boot image, which I would assume would also work for SM-N975U1 as well.
So like I said it's only a matter of time before someone figured out how to root it anyway. And my post was me griping at Samsung for doing what they did, and staying if I had waited I could have gotten a device that is made by a company that isn't actively trying to thwart rooting.
Link: http://androidbiits.com/root-samsung-galaxy-note-10-plus-sm-n975u-sm-n975u1-easily/
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lol they sure get a lot of clicks with that fake news
try setting a lock. i've had this same issue and thats what worked for me. Although when i unlock and root, it factory reset which sucked.
OnnoJ said:
1. You could have informed yourself prior to buying, it is common knowledge US SD-models have locked bootloader and cannot be rooted...
2. It is merely a US-provider requirement to have locked bootloader, not Samsung's choice. Note 10/10+ is rootable in most other parts of the world..
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Well why not do a oneplus/google thing where unlocked versions have unlockable bootloaders while carrier versions don't?
Note 10+ Snapdragon
It is a nice device stock, after flashing the N975U1 firmware with ODIN, and disabling (at least), about 150 system-apps with ADB, it is fast and efficient.
I can't imagine how nice the Note 10+ would be with administrative rights.
Hey, I'm pretty new to modding phones and have been searching around for a way to get my phone (SM-N910A) to be able to run android 8.0 or higher but haven't found anything. Is it just not possible at this time without swapping out parts of the phone or is there a way I have overlooked?
XDApplePie -- The ATT N4 Model SM-N910A cannot be rooted. That was what two genuine experts told me, but they didn't explain why. If so, I think a custom rom can't be installed.
I too want to flash a custom rom to my ATT Note 4. There are many N4 custom ROMs but I can't find any that support the ATT N4. I noticed that ALL the supported N4s have the Exynos chip but NO SnapDragon N4s are supported. The ATT N4 has the Qualcomm SnapDragon chip. My guess is that for some reason the SnapDragon chipset might the obstacle.
TLDR All because of a locked bootloader from ATT due to government contract; even the bounty on in here didn't have a winner
I myself have moved on to Tab A 8 with SPen and just recently to Note 10+ (can't let go of the SPen)
boofman said:
TLDR All because of a locked bootloader from ATT due to government contract; even the bounty on in here didn't have a winner
I myself have moved on to Tab A 8 with SPen and just recently to Note 10+ (can't let go of the SPen)
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I just got off my Note 7 after futilely *****ing out AT&T for deceiving its customers. AT&T does say its phones are locked ... but when you ask a Customer Service Rep if the phone can be 'unlocked' after the contract is expired & phone paid off in full, they say 'yes'. But I just learned that ATT means 'carrier unlocked' only! But the bootloader remains locked forever.
ATT never tells customers that BOTH the carrier and bootloader is locked!
I have two classic Notes -- 4 & 7 -- trapped in stock ATT Android 6 -- and just learned I can't custom rom them to Andy 9. Heartbreaking for a Note FANatic.
So, I am looking at an unlocked Note 10 bought directly from Samsung. But ha, ha, ATT's worthwhile features like its custom dailer, sync calls between Note & Galaxy Watch, Spam Call Block, & etc won't work on a non-ATT unlocked Note 10. The greedy corporate assholes.
My daily driver ATT N7 is cooked. Its ATT Andy 6 is forever frozen. Its 3.5 yr old STOCK battery is failing. OEM replacement battery is a hopeless hope. A battery mod is extreme. I am heartbroken. I have to get a N10 ... and probably an ATT variant for the sake of my ATT Galaxy Watch.
Oh boy, I let ATT trap me like a sheep to be sheared.
Hah, Corporate Big Brother at its worst. Locked bootloader even though you pay for the phone
Hello I am coming from a Pixel XL 2 that I had root and so on. I haven't been on a Samsung since the Note 3. Anyways as I stated before is there root available for the Verizon note 10+ 5G ? I am sorry could not find anything on here. Any advise would be greatly appreciated.
No root options are available.
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No root options are available.
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Oh no... What other options do I have to get root and 5g on Verizon?
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stalls said:
Oh no... What other options do I have to get root and 5g on Verizon?
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you dont lol..
also to add you cant find anything on it bcuz its not possible
Root is possible on s10 5g. They have unlocked bootloaders. Whether its possible on note 10 5g I don't know yet. Does it have OEM unlock option in developer settings?
Honestly if it is unlocked, it's a good option for Verizon customers.
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you dont lol..
also to add you cant find anything on it bcuz its not possible
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Well let me rephrase that. I guess I'm looking to find out what note 10+ phone I would have to get in order to have root and to be on their Verizon network with all the features they carry like volte and so on. Plus 5G but 5G is not needed if I can't have root.
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coilbio said:
Root is possible on s10 5g. They have unlocked bootloaders. Whether its possible on note 10 5g I don't know yet. Does it have OEM unlock option in developer settings?
Honestly if it is unlocked, it's a good option for Verizon customers.
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As far as I know it doesn't have a unlock OEM bootloader option under developer options. Unless I am doing something wrong or overlooking it.
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If it's not present then the V variant is probably locked down. Hopefully t mobile version is unlock since it's a completely different modem, hopefully they just use the n variant that is unlocked.
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If it's not present then the V variant is probably locked down. Hopefully t mobile version is unlock since it's a completely different modem, hopefully they just use the n variant that is unlocked.
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When has T-Mobile US used the N version of any Samsung phone?
Idk but I hope someone can figure out how to obtain root here soon for the Verizon 5g version (unlikely) or I might return the device and then idk what version I should get that will obtain root and play well with Verizon and hopefully have 5g. But will start with root first if needed.
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When has T-Mobile US used the N version of any Samsung phone?
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Sprint does for 5g, this is tmobiles first 5g. Let's hope its international unlocked with T-Mobile apps since it's using the same "5g" chipset.
If not, cool, not a deal breaker but ever since Sprint has, it's given a few people some hope.
Verizon though is definitely locked if there's no eom unlock under developer settings.
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Sprint does for 5g, this is tmobiles first 5g. Let's hope its international unlocked with T-Mobile apps since it's using the same "5g" chipset.
If not, cool, not a deal breaker but ever since Sprint has, it's given a few people some hope.
Verizon though is definitely locked if there's no eom unlock under developer settings.
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Have a source on that? I'm not seeing any N models. SM-G977P is sprints S10 5G model....
The Note 10 Plus has root capabilities if it uses the Exnos chipset. The US & China use the Qualcomm Snapdragon 855 chipset & as far as I've read, there is no root exploit. To add to the problem, my Note 10 Plus is a 5G model with the Snapdragon. Is this impossible to root or is it a matter of somebody finding an exploit or workaround in the future?
I also have a Galaxy S4 without a SIM (it was originally a Verizon phone before I escaped their slimy clutches) that is fully rooted & runs more custom kernel android configurations than the original Android 4.1. I have an app that uses VoIP to give it phone capabilities for the ultimate burner phone. But, there is only so much enhancement you can do to a 2015 phone & cpu speed & memory are antiquated, though I've put in a more powerful battery & maxed out the microSD.
Playa Cat said:
The Note 10 Plus has root capabilities if it uses the Exnos chipset. The US & China use the Qualcomm Snapdragon 855 chipset & as far as I've read, there is no root exploit. To add to the problem, my Note 10 Plus is a 5G model with the Snapdragon. Is this impossible to root or is it a matter of somebody finding an exploit or workaround in the future?
I also have a Galaxy S4 without a SIM (it was originally a Verizon phone before I escaped their slimy clutches) that is fully rooted & runs more custom kernel android configurations than the original Android 4.1. I have an app that uses VoIP to give it phone capabilities for the ultimate burner phone. But, there is only so much enhancement you can do to a 2015 phone & cpu speed & memory are antiquated, though I've put in a more powerful battery & maxed out the microSD.
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If you want root you are better off going and getting a different phone. While technically possible, root for the snapdragon note 10s is going to be very difficult and time consuming. I'm not even sure if anyone is working on it at the moment. Even if someone is as I said it is going to be highly difficult and they may never be able to find an exploit they can use.
What about the the N975F version? I can see my oem unloxk8, but its greyed out and I can't toggle it on. What can I do about this?
Smartphones13 said:
What about the the N975F version? I can see my oem unloxk8, but its greyed out and I can't toggle it on. What can I do about this?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10+/how-to/guide-how-to-root-note-10-t3960031
Maybe use the search function and ask in the appropriate thread?
Usually China's version is unlockable, as is the Latin American Qualcomm that usually comes out later. Until the customer base pushes Samsung to make all their phone bootloader unlockable this is just how it's going to be.
You are stuck give up root or find a unlocked device that supports Verizon.
Or give up on Verizon.
No such thing as not possible with such a device it can't be that protected from some intrusive sh.t. Last time someone said not possible, they did few months after with the 'fuzzing' or whatever it was and got a gymbag filled with fat stacks for their service. Depends who gets paid by who for what. Not even 'root key on HSM' can stop whoever knows what's up.
At least get the CPU from a different brand with unlocked bootloader, to resolder on the board to be able to downgrade/have some swapped PBL.
How much does it cost around the world to swap that CPU to be able to have unlocked and rooted software ? No idea about the de-knox-ing the later boot stages.
First to mention my long time S5 is in hardware failure , this confirmed after flashing a stock rom and camera stops working and signal keeps dropping.
Should I upgrade to the S20 or S20ultra? I've read that I can pay for a service to have bootloader unlocked, and it can be rooted?
How is Verizon 5G vs say T-mobile?
I have no interest in the S21 because it doesn't have expandable storage.
It is your preference whether you want the regular S20, or the giant Ultra. What I hate about USA is that, their carriers demand locked bootloader. Therefore, they forbid people from enjoying the super powers of Android.
The phone can be unlocked & rooted. There's some ROMs available, too.
As for the 5G, Verizon was the king when the S20 came out, thanks to its millimetre-wave 5G. Today may be a different story.
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It is your preference whether you want the regular S20, or the giant Ultra. What I hate about USA is that, their carriers demand locked bootloader. Therefore, they forbid people from enjoying the super powers of Android.
The phone can be unlocked & rooted. There's some ROMs available, too.
As for the 5G, Verizon was the king when the S20 came out, thanks to its millimetre-wave 5G. Today may be a different story.
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I know about the locked bootloaders theres a paid service I can use to unlock it. I think i'm going with the S20 plus. This morning my phone finally got stuck in permeant boot loop wont boot any roms after it was pretty much fine for about a week.