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...and will send it back tomorrow.
It's a pity, the display is even worse than my 2 year old LG optimus speed, and I'm not talking about the viewing angles. Colours are washed out far more as expected, the icons look terrible compared to my old phone. I tried to calibrate the display as mentioned somwhere here, didn't get better.
Besides the display the vibration sucks. I like typing text with a little vibration, but ZL is far too loud. I cant't feel vibration, I just hear it.
I wanted a new phone to make a step forward, but not in this direction...
Damn,I'm really disappointed, I thought this is THE phone for me...
So goodbye sony community!
sturmtruppler said:
...and will send it back tomorrow.
It's a pity, the display is even worse than my 2 year old LG optimus speed, and I'm not talking about the viewing angles. Colours are washed out far more as expected, the icons look terrible compared to my old phone. I tried to calibrate the display as mentioned somwhere here, didn't get better.
Besides the display the vibration sucks. I like typing text with a little vibration, but ZL is far too loud. I cant't feel vibration, I just hear it.
I wanted a new phone to make a step forward, but not in this direction...
Damn,I'm really disappointed, I thought this is THE phone for me...
So goodbye sony community!
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I am planning to get the white one, then see your post.I've experienced the same screen color issue with The Xperia T
I think you mean realistic display rather than over saturated crap that's on most phones. I actually find the display
Temperature with the styling quite mature and refreshing.
The vibration needs some tweaking but it's not a deal breaker.
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Vibration can be set to low there's an option in the menu, seems like you never liked the zl from the start. Most of things you are complaining can be fixed, well except the viewing angles
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...and will send it back tomorrow.
It's a pity, the display is even worse than my 2 year old LG optimus speed, and I'm not talking about the viewing angles. Colours are washed out far more as expected, the icons look terrible compared to my old phone. I tried to calibrate the display as mentioned somwhere here, didn't get better.
Besides the display the vibration sucks. I like typing text with a little vibration, but ZL is far too loud. I cant't feel vibration, I just hear it.
I wanted a new phone to make a step forward, but not in this direction...
Damn,I'm really disappointed, I thought this is THE phone for me...
So goodbye sony community!
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I find it comical that members feel the need to open a new thread only to voice their displeasure. Thanks for your opinion and best of luck with whichever device you obtain next. I wish I had such trivial things to fixate on as vibration sensation.
I had a previous unit where the vibration was loud it made a very cheap sound. I eventually replaced the unit due to a bad camera everything was noisy. My new unit is much better, the vibration is no longer strange in any way. Maybe some bad units going around.
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I find it comical that members feel the need to open a new thread only to voice their displeasure. Thanks for your opinion and best of luck with whichever device you obtain next. I wish I had such trivial things to fixate on as vibration sensation.
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#firstworldproblems man. (shakes head)
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seems like you never liked the zl from the start.
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Lol... yes, that's why i bought it...
Do you mean the colors are washed out head on? If thats the case, then you should try getting a different unit. My screen looks really good. Its only when you tilt it does the screen wash out real quick. It sucks and detracts the quality of the phone, but the pros of the ZL far outweigh something which wont matter to me as i rarely look at the screen from an angle.
As for the vibration, I didn't notice yet before you mentioned it. But yes, it does seem a little weak.
I got my phone like 3 days ago, not having any issues with it. Screen looks great while watching videos or playing games. I don't need that blue tint or any of those oversaturated crap.
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I got my phone like 3 days ago, not having any issues with it. Screen looks great while watching videos or playing games. I don't need that blue tint or any of those oversaturated crap.
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Yep, thats why I absolutely detest AMOLED screens! However, no reason Sony couldnt have put in a LCD that looks as good as the One X. The screen on that phone is spectacular
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+1, no need for a new thread.. if it was an in-depth review that's another story...
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I just read this thread now and I agree good luck to you on whichever phone you like and hopefully it is all you want it to be.
I have now gotten into a seemingly 6 months or less cycle before I decide to try something new...ugh
The only thing I have to say is having an unlocked phone is so much better as you are not tied into the cell providers Android update cycle (if they want it) and their bloatware.
One more thing, having had a note I am not a fan in general of the crazy colore on the AMOLED screens.
As it is it is a feeling - I just love my ZL (and my Nexus 4 is going bye bye - I do have a Nexus 10)
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I just read this thread now and I agree good luck to you on whichever phone you like and hopefully it is all you want it to be.
I have now gotten into a seemingly 6 months or less cycle before I decide to try something new...ugh
The only thing I have to say is having an unlocked phone is so much better as you are not tied into the cell providers Android update cycle (if they want it) and their bloatware.
One more thing, having had a note I am not a fan in general of the crazy colore on the AMOLED screens.
As it is it is a feeling - I just love my ZL (and my Nexus 4 is going bye bye - I do have a Nexus 10)
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As compare to Nexus 4,How is looking your Xperia ZL Colors(I'm not asking about viewing angle), is it possible to Put Stock Android in Zl if yes anyone try it,How the experience feel with stock?
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Those over saturated screens make the screen look amazing. Why did you guys choose to get an xperia? I'd rather get the s4 because its easier to root and plus there's always a ton of ROMs for it
I like Sony for their design. If samsung would change the design from plastic to something better then I wouldn't mind buying one from Samsung. The phone feel too light and like holding a toy in your hand...
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As compare to Nexus 4,How is looking your Xperia ZL Colors(I'm not asking about viewing angle), is it possible to Put Stock Android in Zl if yes anyone try it,How the experience feel with stock?
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The colors seem very comparable, neither phone has over-saturated colors. The ZL screen is gorgeous, but if you are looking for a deal, the Nexus is it for 350.
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Those over saturated screens make the screen look amazing. Why did you guys choose to get an xperia? I'd rather get the s4 because its easier to root and plus there's always a ton of ROMs for it
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Screen tech is a matter of personal choice. Those over saturated colors give me a raging headache if i look at the screen for a long time, i.e playing games, watching movies. I dont know how exactly to put this but LCD screens just LOOK more sophisticated and toned down. Uhh, like a printed sheet of paper. Unlike AMOLED which looks like a kindergarten kid went wild with crayons on the screen.
And Samsung phones easier to root? Building ROMS for them are a PITA. Ask every single dev who has completely abandoned Samsung phones. there might be plenty of ROMs sure, but all of them have some or the other problem. Not to mention the fact that Samsung are a bunch of liars.
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...and will send it back tomorrow.
It's a pity, the display is even worse than my 2 year old LG optimus speed, and I'm not talking about the viewing angles. Colours are washed out far more as expected, the icons look terrible compared to my old phone. I tried to calibrate the display as mentioned somwhere here, didn't get better.
Besides the display the vibration sucks. I like typing text with a little vibration, but ZL is far too loud. I cant't feel vibration, I just hear it.
I wanted a new phone to make a step forward, but not in this direction...
Damn,I'm really disappointed, I thought this is THE phone for me...
So goodbye sony community!
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why did you order this phone in the first place ??? Dont you think you should read/watch reviews before getting a $600.00 phone ?
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Screen tech is a matter of personal choice. Those over saturated colors give me a raging headache if i look at the screen for a long time, i.e playing games, watching movies. I dont know how exactly to put this but LCD screens just LOOK more sophisticated and toned down. Uhh, like a printed sheet of paper. Unlike AMOLED which looks like a kindergarten kid went wild with crayons on the screen.
And Samsung phones easier to root? Building ROMS for them are a PITA. Ask every single dev who has completely abandoned Samsung phones. there might be plenty of ROMs sure, but all of them have some or the other problem. Not to mention the fact that Samsung are a bunch of liars.
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Completely agree, here. I came to the ZL from nothing but Samsung phones (Captivate, Galaxy Nexus, SGS3), and I much prefer the ZL's screen to any Samsung phone screen. For one, I can never read Sammy screens when outdoors on a cloudless sunny day, even with the brightness at maximum. I have had no issues reading the ZL screen in the same conditions, which I'll take over better viewing angles and oversaturated colors any day. As for comparing to LG screens, well, if I'm not mistaken, LG also makes amoled screens, so I wouldn't expect much different than Sammy screens there -- last I checked, the two were suing each other over the technology. The ZL compared to the N4 -- I must say, I finally saw an N4 in person this past weekend, and the screen on it is quite beautiful. I still like my ZL, though, and the lack of LTE radios in the N4 makes it a non-issue for me, no matter how pretty the phone might be (and I'm not keen on a glass back anyways).
I do agree that it would have been great had Sony used something as nice as the LCD in the One X, though. That screen was amazing looking (I had the pleasure of seeing one in person when my brother had a One X for awhile).
Good luck to the OP in finding a device that meets those expectations -- the ZL is the first AT&T LTE capable unlocked phone to hit the USA, and that's a big part of why it intrigued me, too. I suspect it'll be awhile before there's another device like that ...
so this is something i discovered just now, using max brightness does not output max brightness it seems to be limited, if you go into device care management or whatever it's called and set the mode to high performance you have a choice to increase brightness if you set it to 10 it gets much brighter than max brightness, the difference is huge i don't believe it's a placebo the difference really is huge to me, white looks more white and colors seem to pop more.
Just be aware, the brighter you have your screen, the faster you will get screen burn...
Reducing brightness and the time the screen takes to turn off will mitigate this but the extra brightness will be petrol thrown on the fire...
This seems to affect Oled displays more than LCD's...
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Just be aware, the brighter you have your screen, the faster you will get screen burn...
Reducing brightness and the time the screen takes to turn off will mitigate this but the extra brightness will be petrol thrown on the fire...
This seems to affect Oled displays more than LCD's...
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why buy oled if you're not going to use it i have a sony af9 oled tv i have been using for nearly a year as a monitor for my pc and gaming i use max brightness all contrast enhancements turned all the way up i have no burnin i would never pay money for something and never useit thats like buying a glass phone and putting a plastic case around because you're afraid it breaks then why buy a glass phone? just buy a plastic one
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why buy oled if you're not going to use it i have a sony af9 oled tv i have been using for nearly a year as a monitor for my pc and gaming i use max brightness all contrast enhancements turned all the way up i have no burnin i would never pay money for something and never useit thats like buying a glass phone and putting a plastic case around because you're afraid it breaks then why buy a glass phone? just buy a plastic one
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Because I wanted a Note 10+ and they don't come in plastic? Also, I wouldn't want an LCD screen, but I don't want to burn in the AMOLED on this Note 10+. It's not about not using what you bought, it's about taking care of it. And I don't think Ultramag69 was telling you to not use your phone the way you want, they were merely pointing out that risk of burn in. It's called being helpful.
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Because I wanted a Note 10+ and they don't come in plastic? Also, I wouldn't want an LCD screen, but I don't want to burn in the AMOLED on this Note 10+. It's not about not using what you bought, it's about taking care of it. And I don't think Ultramag69 was telling you to not use your phone the way you want, they were merely pointing out that risk of burn in. It's called being helpful.
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yeah i understand that and i al thankful for it i just don't like the idea of limiting what you bought as it defeats the purpose of buying it in the first place, guess i hated the idea of having to limit something just to be safe
No harm, no foul...
As has been stated above, just an FYI to others who might not realise this...
Your device and you use as you like but if someone doesn't realise the consequences, this is a rather EXPENSIVE toy to destroy, albeit unknowingly and others may not have the $$$$ to replace or fix it...
In the end, I think that this enhaced brightness is a good thing to have available, just simply not all the time on
This is actually a good reminder about the high performance mode and the display getting brighter. I already know this setting is available, but I have never really used it. I just turned on high performance and my Note 9 display is brighter/whiter. Working outside a lot, this is a good thing. So I think I will be using high performance a lot on my Note 10+ once if finally arrives.
As far as not using a case on an all glass phone - sorry, but you will be breaking your phone sooner than later. That is your choice, but not a very wise choice IMHO. There are some really nice, thinner cases, that still offer protection, but don't "ruin" the phone. These phones are slippery glass without cases - destined to be broken often and easily without protection. Is what it is.
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This is actually a good reminder about the high performance mode and the display getting brighter. I already know this setting is available, but I have never really used it. I just turned on high performance and my Note 9 display is brighter/whiter. Working outside a lot, this is a good thing. So I think I will be using high performance a lot on my Note 10+ once if finally arrives.
As far as not using a case on an all glass phone - sorry, but you will be breaking your phone sooner than later. That is your choice, but not a very wise choice IMHO. There are some really nice, thinner cases, that still offer protection, but don't "ruin" the phone. These phones are slippery glass without cases - destined to be broken often and easily without protection. Is what it is.
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i've used glass phones since 2013 with no issues and no cases or displayprotectors, at the worst my xz1 ended up getting a displayscratch after a few years which was a first, i have never in my life shattered a phone in any way shape or form.
How are your eyes not melted yet? Max brightness on this phone is pretty intense LOL
this is something noone else has thought of either because it's a very stupid idea or because noone wanted it or thought about it, but i thought i could try any way, this app disables the edge display on the galaxy note 10, it disables it both visually and physically, touch will be completely disabled, i plan on having button shortcuts added too so you can launch the camera for example like a shutter button, this is a very niche idea that i doubt will be of interest to anyone, i am considering releasing it just as an experiment though, i made this thread to see what interest it gets in order to know if i should release it or not, my way of thinking when it comes to apps is just different, i don't like curves i don't like edge displays hence why i tried to get rid of it both for design and for the picture being distorted by the curve, theres ofcourse bugs associated with this, as the screen is meant to reach to the edge text or buttons can be difficult or impossible to press, so yeah a very niche idea but honestly it's growing on me to the point of the phone looking strange when i disable the app, it completely changes the look of the phone makes it almost unrecognizable like a note 9 with a flat display
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It sounds interesting, I will try it if you release it
It really is growing on me
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It sounds interesting, I will try it if you release it
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thank you i may actually do that at first i thought it was a stupid idea everyone would hate but it's growing on me see the last picture i posted it's not ugly.
Good luck for you. But just curious why you bought this phone if you don't like curve screen.
Your idea is basically making a think bezel at the side.
Regarding accidently touching, Samsung already made an app called Edge Touch, which can customize area that immune to touch.
torickray said:
Good luck for you. But just curious why you bought this phone if you don't like curve screen.
Your idea is basically making a think bezel at the side.
Regarding accidently touching, Samsung already made an app called Edge Touch, which can customize area that immune to touch.
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well theres no new phone without an edge display, theres two things i hate with new phones, edge displays and curved display corners, i just want a square flat display but thats pretty much if not impossible, i bought the note 10+ because it looks similar to a sony xperia with thin bezels, i only bought the note 10+ because it has a boxy design something that appeals to me, otherwise i would never buy it if it looked like a galaxy s10 i wouldn't even look in it's direction, i just tolerated the edge display but i never wanted it it ruins the phone the curved display corners ruins it too these are things that makes me want to send it back and buy a sony again but sony has curved displaycorners too which i hate so much i ended up sending the xperia 1 back as i could not stand those corners, the bezels on a xperia 1 or 5 are also uneven thicker at the top than the bottom which i can't stand i am also not a big fan of the 21:9 aspectratio which leaves practically no phone left, all phones look exactly the same the one plus 7 looks like a galaxy, the rog phone looks like a galaxy with thin bezels and ridiculous back, what i wouldn't pay for a sony xperia xz1 same metal build and design with an oled panel and bezels as thin as the note 10+ i would pay 1500 or more for that for that as i find myself wanting to go back to my xz1, the note 10+ is not good enough for that cost but it's very very close, the design makes me incredibly biased towards it, i also don't like how warm the display is even at the colest possible setting every time i look at the xz1 i just prefer the display more, i know about that app i use it myself, this app was meant to also remove the edge display visually.
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well theres no new phone without an edge display, theres two things i hate with new phones, edge displays and curved display corners, i just want a square flat display but thats pretty much if not impossible, i bought the note 10+ because it looks similar to a sony xperia with thin bezels, i only bought the note 10+ because it has a boxy design something that appeals to me, otherwise i would never buy it if it looked like a galaxy s10 i wouldn't even look in it's direction, i just tolerated the edge display but i never wanted it it ruins the phone the curved display corners ruins it too these are things that makes me want to send it back and buy a sony again but sony has curved displaycorners too which i hate so much i ended up sending the xperia 1 back as i could not stand those corners, the bezels on a xperia 1 or 5 are also uneven thicker at the top than the bottom which i can't stand i am also not a big fan of the 21:9 aspectratio which leaves practically no phone left, all phones look exactly the same the one plus 7 looks like a galaxy, the rog phone looks like a galaxy with thin bezels and ridiculous back, what i wouldn't pay for a sony xperia xz1 same metal build and design with an oled panel and bezels as thin as the note 10+ i would pay 1500 or more for that for that as i find myself wanting to go back to my xz1, the note 10+ is not good enough for that cost but it's very very close, the design makes me incredibly biased towards it, i also don't like how warm the display is even at the colest possible setting every time i look at the xz1 i just prefer the display more, i know about that app i use it myself, this app was meant to also remove the edge display visually.
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How about upcoming pixel 4?
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well theres no new phone without an edge display, theres two things i hate with new phones, edge displays and curved display corners, i just want a square flat display but thats pretty much if not impossible, i bought the note 10+ because it looks similar to a sony xperia with thin bezels, i only bought the note 10+ because it has a boxy design something that appeals to me, otherwise i would never buy it if it looked like a galaxy s10 i wouldn't even look in it's direction, i just tolerated the edge display but i never wanted it it ruins the phone the curved display corners ruins it too these are things that makes me want to send it back and buy a sony again but sony has curved displaycorners too which i hate so much i ended up sending the xperia 1 back as i could not stand those corners, the bezels on a xperia 1 or 5 are also uneven thicker at the top than the bottom which i can't stand i am also not a big fan of the 21:9 aspectratio which leaves practically no phone left, all phones look exactly the same the one plus 7 looks like a galaxy, the rog phone looks like a galaxy with thin bezels and ridiculous back, what i wouldn't pay for a sony xperia xz1 same metal build and design with an oled panel and bezels as thin as the note 10+ i would pay 1500 or more for that for that as i find myself wanting to go back to my xz1, the note 10+ is not good enough for that cost but it's very very close, the design makes me incredibly biased towards it, i also don't like how warm the display is even at the colest possible setting every time i look at the xz1 i just prefer the display more, i know about that app i use it myself, this app was meant to also remove the edge display visually.
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There is the S10e which is relatively new , then there it the Oneplus 7, Xiaomi Mi 9T Pro, and many others with flat Displays, your just meaning there isn't a Note that has a flat Display
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not to be harsh but the pixel phones are the most bad looking phones of all time, only reason i would get a pixel phone is for it's camera
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s10e is way too round so i can't get that one
mi6t too round
oneplus 7 too round and a notch
what i require from a anew phone
1.boxy design like the note 10+ (anything rounder than the note 10+ and i won't even consider it i got the huawei mate 10 pro and it's nice but too round but i still got it as i knew flat square displays were a dying breed)
2.square flat display with no rounded screen corners
these are two things that simply do not exist in a new phone apart from the razer phone but that one has giant bezels and no oled, for some reason they are that rare the xperia 1 and 5 is as close as i can get, xperia 1 and 5 and note 10+ are the only phones for my taste theres nothing else i've looked everywhere it just doesn't exist it seems people are obsessed with round phones why i don't know, it's like i am an alien when it comes to smartphone design taste, i just don't understand why people want a curved display and when they say anything bad about it it's that it's pretty but not practical, i neither want it for the look or for it's feel.
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s10e is way too round so i can't get that one
mi6t too round
oneplus 7 too round and a notch
what i require from a anew phone
1.boxy design like the note 10+ (anything rounder than the note 10+ and i won't even consider it i got the huawei mate 10 pro and it's nice but too round but i still got it as i knew flat square displays were a dying breed)
2.square flat display with no rounded screen corners
these are two things that simply do not exist in a new phone apart from the razer phone but that one has giant bezels and no oled, for some reason they are that rare the xperia 1 and 5 is as close as i can get, xperia 1 and 5 and note 10+ are the only phones for my taste theres nothing else i've looked everywhere it just doesn't exist it seems people are obsessed with round phones why i don't know, it's like i am an alien when it comes to smartphone design taste, i just don't understand why people want a curved display and when they say anything bad about it it's that it's pretty but not practical, i neither want it for the look or for it's feel.
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I'm not obsessed and think that the wrong term, The edge Display (Agreed not practical) as in its functionality, however it does aid in the slimmer feel, mainly yes aesthetic, I have the Mate 20 X 5G also, that is a flat Display (7.2" of goodness) but I do appreciate the curve as it looks and yea feels good.
We are all into different things and for an OEM or OEMs to cater for every individual likes or wants (needs) then come on that's just not viable.
You are another level cookie ...... cant imagine there will ever be that device for you, especially now with the waterfall Display and folding phone Era
Not having a good not everyone is comfortable with the curve that's perfectly fine, but it's not going to change with Samsung, They might evolve the note line into the fold, but as if now the curve is here to stay.
The App is a solution for you and if it makes it a better experience then that's great, for me personally, obviously I bought the Note knowing its curve, so its neither a hindrance or a bother to me....
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I'm not obsessed and think that the wrong term, The edge Display (Agreed not practical) as in its functionality, however it does aid in the slimmer feel, mainly yes aesthetic, I have the Mate 20 X 5G also, that is a flat Display (7.2" of goodness) but I do appreciate the curve as it looks and yea feels good.
We are all into different things and for an OEM or OEMs to cater for every individual likes or wants (needs) then come on that's just not viable.
You are another level cookie ...... cant imagine there will ever be that device for you, especially now with the waterfall Display and folding phone Era
Not having a good not everyone is comfortable with the curve that's perfectly fine, but it's not going to change with Samsung, They might evolve the note line into the fold, but as if now the curve is here to stay.
The App is a solution for you and if it makes it a better experience then that's great, for me personally, obviously I bought the Note knowing its curve, so its neither a hindrance or a bother to me....
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yeah i will never have the perfect smartphone i actually designed my own because of that
www.facebook.com/symetium/videos/2135545376537234/
did a curved design too this is where a curve is justified and i do like that type of curved design
and the app was not made just for that reason it was also made as a fun test
i use edge touch as that also disables the edge screens , find it within goodlock
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not to be harsh but the pixel phones are the most bad looking phones of all time, only reason i would get a pixel phone is for it's camera
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Apple is trying really hard to make their phones uglier than the Pixel! Have you seen the new design?
Late reaction but I too want the ability to deactivate the edges of my screen. My reason is that that XServer XSDL used in combination with Linux Deploy will take all the available screen to display and that leads to buttons on the curved edges being almost hidden. I realise this is either very difficult or impossible to achieve and that a simpler solution would be to find/make another XServer application but this can be help in other situations. But since this thread is there I was hoping to check if zzcool or anyone else had a solution.
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Good luck for you. But just curious why you bought this phone if you don't like curve screen.
Your idea is basically making a think bezel at the side.
Regarding accidently touching, Samsung already made an app called Edge Touch, which can customize area that immune to touch.
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If you use something like the Zizo Bolt case accidental touches just don't happen.
This phone need a good case or it will be damaged... eventually.
I use the curve portion to house One Handed Operation plus, it works out nicely.
Occasionally I need to rotate into Landscape mode when cut/pasting, more often I do that for lengthening the search bar though.
I like the curved display... after some adjustment.
The square corners is what I really like... rounded corners look hideous.
iPhones look goofy... trix are for kids
I have a8 2018 and am thinking of getting a70 but i am not sure is it worth it?
biggest dissapointment of a8 is how slippery it is, edges of the phone are a disaster and with glass fingerprinty back theres no way to survive without case
other stuff was/is fine i guess, screen, cameras all ok, especialy selfie cam. altho camera app quite slow..
anyone had a8 or tired that can compare it to a70?
i know the specs but whats on the paper dont usually tell the whole story
bigger battery is nice
bigger screen also but is it as good or better?
i know the back is slippery but how are the edges when holding it ?
cameras better or worse?
how does gps work?
how is overall speed of the phone?
thanks
Screen is big and beautiful but it's not well made, so there's the touch issue, where the screen response latency is a little delayed so it's gonna be a nightmare doing stuff that require precession on this device, such as drawing or playing games that require aiming. Check:
Also tho the screen is beautiful, it has an issue where it turns off pixels that are supposed to be dark. So while watching something with a dark atmosphere, most of the time you're not gonna be able to know what part is pitch black, and what part is just darker than the rest. People don't usually notice this issue but I did notice it because I used my brother's A50 for a while and this issue isn't present on it. The issue with touch response latency isn't present on the A50 either.
The Snapdragon 675 isn't optimized by most games so you're gonna struggle with lag in games like PUBG and Asphalt and COD. The Exynos used on the A50 is optimized, tho. And by using the A50, I can clearly see how much of an advantage optimization gives to gaming.
There A70 isn't slippery, I use it without a cover, so that's a plus. I've dropped it a couple of times but there was no effect. The A50 isn't slippery either.
And that's about it. I'm gonna sell my A70 and get an A50, or I'm gonna check the A51 after it gets released. If it doesn't have the issues mentioned here, then it's gonna be a great device with a great screen.
PS: I'm not a hater, I'm just a user that's honest. I love Samsung, but the A70 just isn't good enough to be sold to millions as it is. The A50 is better imo. Good luck mate.
I personally haven't noticed any big touch issues. The only time the display seems finicky is of my hands are sweaty or have water on them, which is pretty normal, (although I did notice this happening more on this device than my previous device). I don't know what to say on the black levels of the device since I've never noticed any problems, but it could be possible. As for games, PUBG and COD run just fine for me on med-high settings, but I did notice that asphalt 9 didn't feel very smooth, 8 for whatever reason is A-okay though, so I do think that this chipset hasn't been fully optimised for all games, but I don't think you'll have many issues.
If you're now deciding between a50 vs a70, then here's the basic differences, you decide if it's worth it.
-A50 has a better GPU, but a70 has stronger CPU
-A70 has larger screen, but both have same resolution (I.e. 1080p)
-A70 has more storage(128gb), and RAM (6gb), and while the A50 has that too, I haven't seen that model being sold anywhere online (at least in NA).
-A70 has a bigger batter and a faster charger
-A50 stock camera doesn't support 4k (could be wrong as they could have pushed out an update for this)
-A50 is cheaper
They're both good phones tbh, I don't think you'll regret either as long as you weigh the pros and cons. Hope this helps!
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Also tho the screen is beautiful, it has an issue where it turns off pixels that are supposed to be dark. So while watching something with a dark atmosphere, most of the time you're not gonna be able to know what part is pitch black, and what part is just darker than the rest. People don't usually notice this issue but I did notice it because I used my brother's A50 for a while and this issue isn't present on it.
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STOP peddling that nonsense. That is an issue with the lock screen ONLY. it is not a hardware issue and it doesn't affect anything other than the lockscreen. I don't know how many times i have to say that for you to listen.
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STOP peddling that nonsense. That is an issue with the lock screen ONLY. it is not a hardware issue and it doesn't affect anything other than the lockscreen. I don't know how many times i have to say that for you to listen.
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Look dude, I wouldn't talk about it if it wasn't there. You're just not noticing it because you've never put this device side to side with an A50 or a flagship and compared the displays. If I only had this device I wouldn't know that there are dark parts that I'm missing because the pixels are turned off instead of being dimmed. I only knew that because I watch my stuff on multiple devices, which means that I can notice it when a device has an issue with it's display.
+ If I'm still talking about an issue that you've previously addressed to me, then either I'm an idiot or the issue is indeed there. You're free to think of me as in idiot, but for me, the issue IS there, and I will showcase it later by doing a comparison between the A50's and the A70's displays.
PS: I'm not talking about the polarization on the lock screen. I know that that's a bug that only happens on the lock screen, that's why I'm not taking about it.
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You're just not noticing it because you've never put this device side to side with an A50 or a flagship and compared the displays.
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Massive assumptions aside, My last phone was a S8. That's all I really need to say.
+ If I'm still talking about an issue that you've previously addressed to me, then either I'm an idiot or the issue is indeed there. You're free to think of me as in idiot, but for me, the issue IS there, and I will showcase it later by doing a comparison between the A50's and the A70's displays.
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Please do. Looking forward to it.
I've been using my pixel 6 pro for a week now and I have to say it's great, despite the incomprehensible hate from people. So far I can't complain about anything, at first the battery was running average and now it's great, I don't know how it happened. My former Oneplus 9 is a complete wipeout in almost every category except for the fingerprint reader and faster charging. In my opinion it's also a little better than the iphone 13 which I had for 1.5 weeks, however the iPhone wins in the gaming performance category, because I really can't find a difference in the speed of these phones in normal use. It's true the iPhone is reliable, however a bit handicapped and definitely badly priced compared to the Pixel. This is where my question arises, where is the hate from the media and users coming from as if the Pixel 6 pro is a complete failure?
No one can please everyone. I'm happy with my P6P, especially the 512 GB part. If there was one thing it could have that it doesn't already is a flat screen, but I know there are at least a few people who like the curved screens. Just makes finding tempered glass screen protectors that work with the in-screen optical fingerprint reader rare or non-existent.
yes, i agree with backwards name guy up there....
yes, people will complain, but also, also a lot complaints are valid IMO. Not all.
my list:
curved screen. yes, not so bad it is tolerable, but i hate curved screen period. There is absolutely no benefit to it. I don't understand why NO android phone makes will make non curved flagship phones anymore. Bunch of nonsense. Flat is best, always. you don't see iphone ever going curved right? Also, along these lines, why wont a single android phone be rectangular?? circle is super dumb, curved screen dumb. because its a watch?? its not a watch, its a mini phone. its a display on your hand that does smartphone stuff, rectangle is best, circle is stupid. would you want a circular phone?? no circles, no curves. please for the love of god.
fingerprint sensor. i did kind of like the pixel5 behind phone sensor, esp with smooth pull down tickling (naughty) features. but in screen is more convenient. and yes, it is slightly spazzy, so valid complaint there. no big deal, but valid.
it better be twrp-able soon. this is my complaint.
camera, crazy huge bump on the phone. totally valid complaint. if you dont mind, fine, but lets not act like this is some elegant design, lolll. I always say this, if we are going to have big ol battery bumps, why not just make the entire phone depth bigger, and have room for bigger battery, headphone jack, and whatever else you can shove into that space. but that's just me.
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I've been using my pixel 6 pro for a week now and I have to say it's great, despite the incomprehensible hate from people. So far I can't complain about anything, at first the battery was running average and now it's great, I don't know how it happened. My former Oneplus 9 is a complete wipeout in almost every category except for the fingerprint reader and faster charging. In my opinion it's also a little better than the iphone 13 which I had for 1.5 weeks, however the iPhone wins in the gaming performance category, because I really can't find a difference in the speed of these phones in normal use. It's true the iPhone is reliable, however a bit handicapped and definitely badly priced compared to the Pixel. This is where my question arises, where is the hate from the media and users coming from as if the Pixel 6 pro is a complete failure?
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Completely agree with you, I had a Note 20 Ultra and this does everything my note did. Always bought the notes for the large screen and not the s pen. Been with Sammy a long time and the curved screen doesn't bother me one little bit. Been up and running for 7-8 days with not a single issue that I haven't been able to remedy with google. Been away from goole phones for so long there was a little learning curve for me. I think a lot of the issue are with android 12 and not necessarily the hardware.
Superxdaer said:
yes, i agree with backwards name guy up there....
yes, people will complain, but also, also a lot complaints are valid IMO. Not all.
my list:
curved screen. yes, not so bad it is tolerable, but i hate curved screen period. There is absolutely no benefit to it. I don't understand why NO android phone makes will make non curved flagship phones anymore. Bunch of nonsense. Flat is best, always. you don't see iphone ever going curved right? Also, along these lines, why wont a single android phone be rectangular?? circle is super dumb, curved screen dumb. because its a watch?? its not a watch, its a mini phone. its a display on your hand that does smartphone stuff, rectangle is best, circle is stupid. would you want a circular phone?? no circles, no curves. please for the love of god.
fingerprint sensor. i did kind of like the pixel5 behind phone sensor, esp with smooth pull down tickling (naughty) features. but in screen is more convenient. and yes, it is slightly spazzy, so valid complaint there. no big deal, but valid.
it better be twrp-able soon. this is my complaint.
camera, crazy huge bump on the phone. totally valid complaint. if you dont mind, fine, but lets not act like this is some elegant design, lolll. I always say this, if we are going to have big ol battery bumps, why not just make the entire phone depth bigger, and have room for bigger battery, headphone jack, and whatever else you can shove into that space. but that's just me.
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As for the curved screen, it's the perfect nesting place for One Handed Operation plus.
It's a useful and highly customizable app.
blackhawk said:
The flood gates have been opened
As for the curved screen, it's the perfect nesting place for One Handed Operation plus.
It's a useful and highly customizable app.
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Didn't know about the one handed app. Possibly the ONLY useful thing I've seen for curved screen. Not enough! Curved screen sucks.
Personally i think its a great phone. Battery is absolutely fine and easily gets through a day with still anywhere between 20-40% left. Camera is really good. Screen is so smooth and gorgeous to be using. Not had one real issue yet. I said in a previous thread most of the complaints are ridiculous but someone obviously reported me for saying so.
Have to say i dont get anyone complaining about having a curved screen either. Surely people know what was being bought when they paid for it, can hardly have been a surprise.
All in all, its a great phone as pretty much every review ive seen of it agrees with.
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Didn't know about the one handed app. Possibly the ONLY useful thing I've seen for curved screen. Not enough! Curved screen sucks.
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I wuv my N10+ but the curved screen takes some getting use to and the right case/screen protector. The case should have slightly raised side edges (higher than the display), and raised higher on the top/bottom.
Flipping the phone from portrait to landscape is helpful when needed.
The hydrocell wet apply TFF screen protectors work well, are cheap, long lived and relatively easy to align/apply.
You can use One Handed Operation plus for navigation among many things from any adjustable zone (up to 6) anywhere on the sides.
A very dependable and well behaved app.
Lol, the curved screen initially added to my curse word vocabulary but I like it now.
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Personally i think its a great phone. Battery is absolutely fine and easily gets through a day with still anywhere between 20-40% left. Camera is really good. Screen is so smooth and gorgeous to be using. Not had one real issue yet. I said in a previous thread most of the complaints are ridiculous but someone obviously reported me for saying so.
Have to say i dont get anyone complaining about having a curved screen either. Surely people know what was being bought when they paid for it, can hardly have been a surprise.
All in all, its a great phone as pretty much every review ive seen of it agrees with.
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You don;t get the curved screen complaint??? It's not that they are surprised by the curve screen, lolll. It's that the flagship offering is curved screen. We get it begrudgingly because it's the latest pixel phone.
I have no intention of defending billion dollar companies. The phone is fine, ok. But we're allowed to complain!! Frankly, pixel5 was overall better. that thing is beautiful. Flat screen, still fast as hell, good enough cameras. Bad storage, but also cheaper. I think if they just made the pixel5 bigger with the tensor chip and in screen fingerprint, everything else the same (more storage too), even the same p6pro price, and it would have been more perfect than what they did. Pixel5 is beautiful.
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You don;t get the curved screen complaint??? It's not that they are surprised by the curve screen, lolll. It's that the flagship offering is curved screen. We get it begrudgingly because it's the latest pixel phone.
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No i dont. if you dont want a curved screen, dont buy a phone that was clearly advertised as a curved screen then moan that, you know,... it has a curved screen.
Buy something else. The standard pixel 6 for example which doesnt have one.
Youre entitled to complain about things just as im entitled to call the complaints ridiculous if they are.
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Personally i think its a great phone. Battery is absolutely fine and easily gets through a day with still anywhere between 20-40% left. Camera is really good. Screen is so smooth and gorgeous to be using. Not had one real issue yet. I said in a previous thread most of the complaints are ridiculous but someone obviously reported me for saying so.
Have to say i dont get anyone complaining about having a curved screen either. Surely people know what was being bought when they paid for it, can hardly have been a surprise.
All in all, its a great phone as pretty much every review ive seen of it agrees with.
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Nope...wasn't a surprise. Many here are truly limited to what phone brands we want to buy for unlocking BL and root etc. So for me, it's Google or OnePlus. I don't buy OnePlus cuz I hate the physical button layout and the extra alert slider nonsense. That's the bummer for me with the curved screen. No where else to go unless I go with the regular pixel 6. I agree with Super....curved sucks.
I think we first have to differentiate a bit.
1. There are people here flaming or being negative, without ever having owned the device in the first place. Simply for the sake of being negative. The reasons for that... are multiple. Maybe they dont like the Pixels having good press, maybe they are lonely, maybe they are bored, maybe they are just as*h*les by nature. I do not know. Those criticisms you can ignore.
2. Then there are people that have certain fixed expectations from other phones that are of no significance in nature, take the guys as an example that flame the Pixel for having the power button on "the wrong side" - for them, it's a dealbreaker. But it is not. It's a design decision by a manufacturer and neither good or bad, it just "is". Personally for me, it's a) a good place, because it helps me shoot photos an b) doesn't bother me. So there are very subjective reasons that are void of reasoning or "depth" to the argument/flame, it's "muh don't like, because don't like". Those you can also ignore.
3. Then there are people who make application errors/ manual errors, like people that do not understand what adaptive charging means, or that have AOD enabled all day long and wonder that 10% of battery is lost overnight; or have a terrible 5G connection at the edge of town and do not understand that their phone is constantly trying to make connection, burning through the battery; or that have ****ty providers that do not enable 5G deactivation - that's not on Google, that's their carrier. Making the phone responsible because your contract partner is sh*t, is just, well, another point you can ignore.
4. Then there are people who compare apples to bananas - like the ones coming over from Samsung and OnePlus, expecting the exact same battery life - even though their phones are notorious app killers (https://dontkillmyapp.com/), and those phones don't run good 24/7 background stuff, like Now Playing - with a negliable battery drain. If the Pixel only has 5% less battery time, for those people, that's a massive "muh will send phone back" - those you can also ignore, because their expectations are simply unrealistic.
5. Then there are people that actually know their sh*t and try to compare features and problems of a phone on a balanced, reasonable basis - they try to compare things that can be compared with, try to find a middle ground amongst expectations, without sounding unreasonable - they try to balance their feedback by differentiating between personal/subjective "likings" and objective/ defacto pros'n'cons, those you should heed. The problem is: Those people are in the minority. So for you as a "bystander" you first have to sift through a hundred comments, until you can find the 10 or 15 decent ones that are actually helpful.
Complainers complain, there is always something to nitpick. Didn`t used to be on XDA but some people changed. They are over entitled (Karens and Kenns) and have less to no boundries anymore.
I don't think it's very fair to go into a thread about complaints and then get mad at people who are posting complaints.
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I don't think it's very fair to go into a thread about complaints and then get mad at people who are posting complaints.
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That's not the case here. Everyone has the right to complain.
It is a choice however, how you complain, in which words, whether or not your complaint is purely subjective/personal in nature, or if there is an actual/de facto problem at hand that can be easily reproduced by other community members. An example: If it is a personal feeling - like "I don't like curved glass" - that doesn't mean the phone is bad, it just means that that person doesn't like curved displays. It's wrong to demean a product, if it has a clear design choice that everyone knew beforehand. If that person doesn't like that, he/she/is shouldn't have bought it in the first place. There are enough stores out there to test and see if a curved display fitsthe individuals needs or not.
A right to complain does not mean "muh bad muh **** muh no like" - that's not criticism or a complaint, that's just the mental equivalent of a fart, it simply has no meaning. It's important to differentiate, illustrate, compare and balance out expectations and therefore "complaints" - otherwise they lose significance and meaning.
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I don't think it's very fair to go into a thread about complaints and then get mad at people who are posting complaints.
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I`am not mad. People know all the details of the device and if they don`t like it they shouldnt buy it. But what is the benefit of complaining if you can`t change a thing about it!
You have a good breakdown of complainers up there, lolll. I'm hoping I'm in category #5.
It's just a phone at the end of the day. I've no love for any global giant company so no time for brand loyalty. It'll die down in due course, it's always the same when a new popular phone is released.
Love it! phone works great! Rooted. ads blocked. happy fricken life.
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Love it! phone works great! Rooted. ads blocked. happy fricken life.
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Nice. I'm thinking of rooting any minute now. So no negative consequences? I know we're all waiting for TWRP, but googly pay, etc. (all the things we're not supposed to mention in the root thread) all that stuff is working?