I have a diagonal line that runs along the width of the display it runs at a slight angel, it can be only seen with the display set a its lowest setting and running a black image in a very dark room. I have taken the phone back to three (solihull) who after 3 goes of trying to see it are aware of the problem and acknowledged it. They checked their demo phone which didn't have the problem. They have contacted their Samsung rep who I am awaiting a call from.
Does anyone have a similar problem?
This is normal with AMOLED displays.
the thing is, my GS2 doesnt have this "problem" on the lowest screen brightness.
I compared them last night side by side and its very noticable on my Nexus
That said, i've already accepted the fact that everyone else has some variation of this "issue" but im more curious on what the Samsung rep has to say about it. I'm also curious if its more visible on some devices as opposed to others.
I put my brightness on a static settings so it doenst effect me much (I can see it a bit on dark grey backgrounds) but i'm just imagining people who use auto brightness cause there's NO way you can miss it on whites/greys
you must have a magic Galaxy S II then, because it is a known issue with AMOLED screens when running at low brightness.
ill try and take a picture tonight with my devices side by side
honestly, anyone would be able to spot it out if you saw them in person.
Either my GS2 doesnt have the issue, or its VERY hard to see. I took long hard looks because i was really debating if my Nexus was defective - if this is just how it is then im willing to accept it - i just want to make sure we're not part of some funky batch
i assume like this here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19881421&postcount=87
And if you said they tested the demo units, thats also my observation. Some screens have it more than others (others being almost not visible) and some inbetween
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you must have a magic Galaxy S II then, because it is a known issue with AMOLED screens when running at low brightness.
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It may be a known issue, but that doesn't mean it's acceptable. I've not experienced any issues like this on either of my Fascinates. I'd certainly return mine if there were any screen issues.
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This is normal with AMOLED displays.
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I understand the artefacts you mean but this is a single bar about 3mm thick its not dead pixels like the three store suggested otherwise it wouldn't matter about the brightness it almost looks like something is pressing gently against the screen. I have tried to photograph it but my camera/me are not the best.
Thyrus said:
i assume like this here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19881421&postcount=87
And if you said they tested the demo units, thats also my observation. Some screens have it more than others (others being almost not visible) and some inbetween
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yeah its pretty much like that
it's like...grainy with weird colours. I wouldnt say i see any thick LINES, instead it reminds me of throwing paint on a wall and letting it slide down. I'll try and take a picture tonight with some high res camera so you guys can hopefully see what im talking about
unfortauntely its not so easy for me to get a return since im in canada and i bought mine through Handtec in the UK - im pretty sure RMA-ing is a huge hassle and wait, plus im not sure if i have to pay for the shipping
Thyrus said:
i assume like this here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19881421&postcount=87
And if you said they tested the demo units, thats also my observation. Some screens have it more than others (others being almost not visible) and some inbetween
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Its not like that on mine.
lol i took that pic with my G2x, its not as extreme as that in real life.
An OLED (organic light-emitting diode) is a light-emitting diode (LED) in which the emissive electroluminescent layer is a film of organic compounds which emit light in response to an electric current.
It;s Organic. Each row of organic pixels may have slightly different tolerances to voltage than the next, hence you get dark and lighter rows varying to different degrees on different screens.
By all means take a chance and see if a replacement is all the same tolerances with no darker or lighter lines or if it has lots of them and looks like a striped screen. I don't think its a "defect" as such, its just a "characteristic" of AMOLED. If they wanted Samsung could measure the tolerance of each OLED to a very accurate level and there would be no dark or light lines on any screen. It would be very expensive though, so they fall into a catagory of acceptable or not.
Thats just my opinion by the way.
edit: Im actual glad so many others are questioning this too. I feel less pedantic now. lol
mcgon1979 said:
By all means take a chance and see if a replacement is all the same tolerances with no darker or lighter lines or if it has lots of them and looks like a striped screen.
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Bear in mind that any replacement you get may in fact have a worse screen. I was lucky when I got my replacement phone (replaced due to volume bug, nothing to do with the screen) and my screen was luckily better. You may not be so lucky.
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I don't think its a "defect" as such, its just a "characteristic" of AMOLED.
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Indeed
well i just got my nexus today and as expected noticed a small transparant line running down with screen with auto brightness / low brightness. So i turned it of and manualy set to around 55 60% defintly cant notice it now just bummer cant use auto brightness .... will have to see how battery holds out like this as i luv this phone
I must say Sony SmartWatch 3 is the best current smart watch as unlike other watches I own (LG G Watch, Samsung Gear S)...
I can use it outside in the sun
I can charge it using simple micro USB at work or simply anywhere without having to worry about charging cradle
I switch it off and power it on without cradle
Wifi!
GPS!
No need for switching to cinema mode when watching movies
As I wrote, it has a button so I can disable the damn touch to wake
Ambient light sensor!
When I first installed my watchface to my brand new SW3 I noticed that the white color looked indeed with yellowish tint while the tiny bit darker shade (#EEEEEE) looked like perfectly shining white. I ended up using this color for SW3 in this watchface. Is it just my mind playing tricks on me (because of all the surrounding black) or is it really white without tint?
This all makes want to try re-style the colors of the system clockwork apk and maybe system styles/colors to this shade.
Have to agree .. all the above points are valid and makes me more happy now. thanks
leojab said:
Have to agree .. all the above points are valid and makes me more happy now. thanks
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you missed out IP68 and NFC
I only notice the yellow, in certain light at a certain angle... its nothing that concerns me in the slightest.
The Smartwatch 3 is definitely the est choice of a smartwatch for a utilitarian...
At least in Sweden, the pricing is very attractive too
I'm happy to read this topic, I've just won the bidding on eBay at $ 128 ☺
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just got it
i also have a gear 2 neo, and screen on sony looks like an old phone screen
viewing angles are rally bad
android wear has a lot more functionality and you are not tight to a brand, but i'm kind of disappointed with screen quality
al404 said:
just got it
i also have a gear 2 neo, and screen on sony looks like an old phone screen
viewing angles are rally bad
android wear has a lot more functionality and you are not tight to a brand, but i'm kind of disappointed with screen quality
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This is kinda on purpose. Sony opted for transflective so it can be used in sunlight very easily. The trade off is the screen quality isn't "as good" as others. But in all honesty I'd rather be able to use it outside. You get used to the yellowing and it becomes barely noticeable.
I wonder if they'll stick with transflective. Anybody know whether it's their own technology?
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I wonder if they'll stick with transflective. Anybody know whether it's their own technology?
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Transflective? No, the version of the screen they use, maybe?
Transflective has been around for a while just always called something different:
BE+: SolarbON
Boe Hydis: Viewiz
Motion Computing: View Anywhere
LG Display: Shine-Out
NEC Displays: ST-NLT
DEMCO CSI: SOLARBON
Pixel Qi: 3Qi
Panasonic: CircuLumin
Getac: QuadraClear
Dell: DirectVue or DirectView.
Sony just calls it by what the technology actually is instead of some fancy name to convince consumers theirs is better.
Since this watch is geared toward sports transflective is the best option to me, saves battery and so much easier to see.. I don't think they will go away from it unless they make multiple versions. Right now I just hope they actually release a Z4c
runningwarrior08 said:
Transflective? No, the version of the screen they use, maybe?
Transflective has been around for a while just always called something different:
BE+: SolarbON
Boe Hydis: Viewiz
Motion Computing: View Anywhere
LG Display: Shine-Out
NEC Displays: ST-NLT
DEMCO CSI: SOLARBON
Pixel Qi: 3Qi
Panasonic: CircuLumin
Getac: QuadraClear
Dell: DirectVue or DirectView.
Sony just calls it by what the technology actually is instead of some fancy name to convince consumers theirs is better.
Since this watch is geared toward sports transflective is the best option to me, saves battery and so much easier to see.. I don't think they will go away from it unless they make multiple versions. Right now I just hope they actually release a Z4c
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Interesting, but who does supply the SW3 panel? Basically I'm wondering if the technology is being developed sufficiently to keep up with AMOLED watch screens. SW3 battery life not as good as I expected, I assumed it would be better than the AMOLED watches.
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Interesting, but who does supply the SW3 panel? Basically I'm wondering if the technology is being developed sufficiently to keep up with AMOLED watch screens. SW3 battery life not as good as I expected, I assumed it would be better than the AMOLED watches.
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Hmm I will look into it to see if I can find a manufacturer, I usually take my electronics apart and look at the parts and play with them but I haven't done it to any smartwatches yet... Just haven't had the time.
And your SW3 gets worse battery life than an AMOLED? I haven't seen that personally. My SW3 gets 2 days minimum on a charge. My Zenwatch lucky to get 1, my Gear S can get one with 30% or so left.
There are major bugs affecting battery life, and the sw3 seems more susceptible due to the transflective screen. Right now many people get hours. This is an android bug and not a function of the tech itself. Sony is working on it, but it is making many people myself included rethink the device.
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There are major bugs affecting battery life, and the sw3 seems more susceptible due to the transflective screen.
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On what bloody planet does the screen tech have *anything* to do with the battery drain bug!?!?
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The theory is that our screen stays in ambient mode constantly whereas most people do not let the others stay on so long due to battery drain. On our screen, ambient mode should not use much battery so we use it constantly, but on the other device gives most people leave the always on off because the screen is actually always on.
In ambient mode in addition to the normal mode, the watch is constantly connecting and disconnecting from the phone. This is triggering a drain.
If the screen is off, it is not happening.
It seems logical, but is not my theory. I am just reiterating the chatter on the other thread.
One thing I can say, our watch sleeps differently than other wear watches because of the screen. Therefore we will potentially notice wakelocks differently than them.
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Samsung Galaxy Note 7, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
The phone feels really good in the hand. The only reason I didn't give it 5 stars is the worry I have with the scratches.
I love my Note 7 so much! The build quality is exceptional and the display is truly stunning. its just so immersive.
Made a little quick look video about it
Alright, alright. I had to create an account after reading several critiques and complaints on this forum. I'm sure a lot of people that are considering buying the phone will be popping in and reading the very same complaints while considering their purchase. The purpose of this thread is to clear up said complaints, from my own personal experience.
First of all, I'd like to ensure you all who haven't bought the phone yet that you absolutely have to buy it and experience it for yourself before making any decision. After all, you usually have 14 days to return it. I say this because, while the phone is not "perfect" as many here on this forum have pointed out, it is probably one of the most aesthetically pleasing phones I've ever laid eyes on, and feels incredibly comfortable in the hand. Pictures DO NOT do this phone justice, and the overflowing screen, combined with the size and weight of the phone, gives an overwhelming feeling of vibrancy when holding/viewing.
(Cost) The phone is expensive, yes, but there's a reason for that: it's a top tier smartphone. If you haven't gotten used to a hefty price tag yet, then you must not have been in the market for long. If you can't afford it, get a OnePlus 3, but I can guarantee you it wont be as fine an experience. Most cell phone companies offer financing, anyway. Meaning, you make a small monthly payment for the phone itself over the course of the 1-2 years you'll be using it anyway, and if you decide to, you simply cancel service and pay the phone off. Most companies will then give you an unlock code, and the phone is then yours to do what you please with it, or bring it to another service provider. Either way, every dime you pay while financing brings you closer to owning it, if you decide not to buy it outright. I personally will probably just pay mine off when the price tag gets down to about $400 dollars.
(Delicacy or Lack Thereof) As I stated in the introduction, the phone is thin, comfortable, feels great in the hand, but the overflowing screen gives it a very large & vibrant appearance even though it doesn't FEEL that large in the hand. Does this mean it feels delicate and fragile? Not at all. Now that's not to say you wouldn't WANT to drop it, but for the most part, it's easy to handle, has the perfect weight to it, and doesn't feel fragile by any means. This phone is NOT going to scratch/break in your pocket, unless you're mashing your legs into the sharp edges of tables or falling onto it, or for whatever reason like to keep sharp objects in the same pocket as your phone. It's NOT going to scratch by simply setting it down on a table, or having it slide in between the seats of your car.
This brings me down to a point I've emphasized before: If you're going to buy a $900 phone? DO... not... drop it! I mean, honestly, lets be real here guys: accidents DO happen. However, it's those of us who are incredibly careful, who are capable of owning phones like these. If you're someone who is very clumsy, careless, active, etc., perhaps NO phone of this design type is meant for you. That is not the fault of the manufacturers. There are many phone manufacturers who build phones designed for DURABILITY. My last Galaxy, which wasn't exactly designed for durability, lasted me 2 FULL YEARS however, and has never been dropped once, nor does it have a single scratch. This phone IS durable though- it's durable for a phone of THIS make, this design, and trust me... this is a stylish designer phone, it simply is not an ACTIVE phone. If you want to turn it INTO an ACTIVE phone? Buy a damn Otterbox Defender. When you're hiking/rock climbing/playing basketball, whatever- you're going to have an ACTIVE Note 7 phone. Then when you're doing some casual driving, sitting at a desk, sitting anywhere at home really, at dinner with friends, or pretty much doing anything that's non-active, pop it out of it's case. You'll then, once again, have the nicest phone that anyone's ever laid eyes on.
To summarize the above, be a responsible phone owner, and you'll be fine. If you can't handle the responsibility of owning such an expensive product that was designed to be durable while keeping a fantastic overall appearance, don't buy it. You can't fault manufacturers for your lack of care.
(Battery Life) I've owned this phone for a little while now, and I've charged it approximately one and a half times (by a half, I mean plugged it in at 40-50% before leaving the house) per day. I keep High Accuracy GPS on, I keep brightness at 85-95%, I keep a multicolor 'Always On' display up, I have the "screen off" time set to 3 minutes, I have HD quality wallpapers for home & lock screens, and I keep WiFi on. I have yet to use any of the battery saver modes or capabilities. During the first few days of owning this phone, I would install back to back programs, take 15+ pictures while playing around with the different camera & video settings, record videos of my screen, experiment with the S pen, experiment with different mobile games, set up setting after setting, security feature after security feature, experiment with high quality video, stream YouTube & Netflix movies, the list goes on and on and I'm sure anyone who's ever owned a new phone knows exactly what I'm talking about.
During these times, my battery would last approximately 9 hours before falling to 20% or below. That's EXTREME HEAVY use, with battery draining functions, brightness, and high resolution screens, and no power saving whatsoever giving me 9 hours of use without even falling into critical battery levels. When I get down to around 20%, I plug it in and it takes about 40-50 minutes to charge back to 100%. If my battery is at 30% or higher, I simply plug it in and it's charged in 30-40 minutes or less. I have ONCE allowed my phone to fall below 10%, and it took no longer than one hour to charge to 100%. So yes, the battery is EXTREMELY good, and it charges extremely fast.
(Fingerprints) This phone will have fingerprints on it within just a few minutes of use, however, they are hardly noticeable unless you're actually looking for them. Once it gets marked up really heavily, which only takes about two hours of use to happen, it becomes a little more noticeable at a glance, but still, you have to be UP CLOSE to the phone to even notice. Now, I have EXTREME OCD, so this should bother me a lot more, right? No, it doesn't. What I do is keep 2 microfiber towels- one on my desk(where I spend a lot of my time) and one in my car. Whenever I pick up my phone after an extended period of non-use, I simply wipe it with the dry towel(takes 15 seconds) and viola- it looks like it JUST came out of the box again... brand new. When going somewhere, I do a quick wipe of the phone before exiting my vehicle- and viola. Brand new looking phone sitting in my pocket wherever I'm going. The gorgeous material of this phone is a worthy sacrifice for some barely noticeable fingerprints that can easily be rectified. Oh, by the way. BECAUSE of the material the phone is made of, it is MUCH EASIER to clean with said microfiber towels than the older plastic models, such as the S4. That one took at lot more scrubbing and hitting specific areas, and would also get smudge marks from the fingerprints being "wiped in" by the cloth, that were almost impossible to get rid of.
(The "oh so" Awful Speaker) This is one of the biggest critiques the phone has received, by both people on this forum, and review videos/articles/websites all across the interwebz. And I? I just don't see it. The speaker, to me, is LOUD. Now, it's not booming, bass boosted music cube quality, however... it is loud enough to where I could easily hear it ringing(depending on the ringtone) from across the house in another room. It's also loud enough to where I could play a video, turn the volume to max, set it about 50 feet away, and still hear it vividly. Also, I love the quality of the sound. It doesn't sound cheap, or poor at all to me. Non-speaker voice sound is crystal clear through this during calls. Sometimes if you hold the phone a certain way, you can block off the speaker since it's on the bottom, muffling the sound. However, muscle memory allowed me to quickly get used to preventing this after the very first time it happened. I never have a problem with the speaker being on the bottom, outside of the fact that I slightly prefer the headphone jack being on the top.
(Performance) Mentions of slow loading, TouchWiz lag, etc on this thread, I have yet to experience once. TouchWiz also has a much better interface now, especially after downloading a free theme that I liked. TouchWiz does not lag at all for me. Nothing on this phone loads "slowly" for me. I did a screen-record video of myself navigating different apps, games, etc on my phone, and literally sh** was opening within milliseconds of each tap, minus games, which, depending on the size/type of game, would take just a few seconds. I see no "slowness" in this phone whatsoever. There's literally not even delays between navigating pages on Facebook, switching from Facebook to YouTube and then from YouTube to Gmail and then from Gmail to a video on my phone. If I were to do all these app switches and loads in order of what I just listed, it would take no more than the time it takes me to open the Edge screen and tap the different apps. Game-play on games such as Mage and Minions is fluid, without noticeable frame drops, and without lag.
(Fingerprint & Iris Scanners) Fingerprint scanner works perfectly if you actually use it right, i.e., gently place your *entire* fingertip over the button. The iris scanner is not perfect, but it works 95% of the time and is FAST... VERY FAST when it does work. If you're looking for a "more secure" method of locking your phone- that's what it's for. It is supposed to be much more secure than the fingerprint scanner, and it's very fast as long as you do it right. Like, I'm talking, sometimes I don't even have time to see the "eye circles" appear on the screen. It just unlocks in a millisecond, as I'm already holding the phone in the correct position upon swiping up. Now, if you wear glasses or contacts, just skip the iris scanner. It is not 100% necessity, by any means, and your phone can be secured with simply the fingerprint scanner or a complex password. Not the end of the world.
Now, I do not consider myself to be a "Samsung fanboy," nor a "Galaxy fanboy." I do not dislike Apple Products outside of the fact that I think they're just a tad highly priced in comparison to Samsung(I know, the difference is becoming very slight, but even still). My wife has the 6s Plus, and it's a great phone. I do not work for Samsung, I do not work for any cell phone company at all, I am not paid to write any of the above. This was simply my unbiased response/personal review of the Note 7, that I was inclined to write after seeing so many negative comments on this thread in addition to a lot of misinformation. I WANT others to get the same experience I'm getting with my Note 7, and frankly, not be discouraged by others. So there you go.
Ace Ryan said:
If you haven't gotten used to a hefty price tag yet, then you must not have been in the market for long. If you can't afford it, get a OnePlus 3, but I can guarantee you it wont be as fine an experience.
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i have both phones and i completely disagree. the oneplus 3 is actually faster and smoother (sometimes by quite a bit) and the photo differences are minor (this compares shots by both phones at 100% crop http://www.forbes.com/sites/bensin/...etter-photos-than-far-cheaper-chinese-phones/). and i don't know about you, but i'm willing to bet most people can't really tell the difference between a quad HD and 1080p display.
i'm not saying the oneplus 3 is better. overall, the Note 7 is better, but by only a bit (unless you are someone to whom stylus and waterproofing makes ALL THE DIFFERENCE. like if you're a lifeguard who likes to sketch or something).
the oneplus 3 is like 90-95% as good, at less than half the price. i don't get why you're trying to justify the note 7's cost for samsung, using excuses like "phone companies let you finance anyway", that's not a fair point to make, because the phone still cost more, period.
also, i see that you say the Note 7 doesn't have lag. really? go into settings and type into the search box. on my Exynos Note 7, after i type something in, there's a full two second wait before anything loads. on my US$280 Xiaomi Mi 5, or $400 OnePlus 3, results load in REAL TIME as i type each letter. the same lag also appears when you search for apps in Note 7's app tray.
i hate this phone
the build quality is the worst and there is gap between the device and the screen. u can see it when u at the brightness on full
please watch this video
the support response was this is a new design
the samsung arabia support completly ignored me
for me note 7 is as good as a cheap chinese phone regardless what it can do.
with such a trash build and poor support i am really wondering how are they number 1 ??
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i have both phones and i completely disagree. the oneplus 3 is actually faster and smoother (sometimes by quite a bit) and the photo differences are minor (this compares shots by both phones at 100% crop http://www.forbes.com/sites/bensin/...etter-photos-than-far-cheaper-chinese-phones/). and i don't know about you, but i'm willing to bet most people can't really tell the difference between a quad HD and 1080p display.
i'm not saying the oneplus 3 is better. overall, the Note 7 is better, but by only a bit (unless you are someone to whom stylus and waterproofing makes ALL THE DIFFERENCE. like if you're a lifeguard who likes to sketch or something).
the oneplus 3 is like 90-95% as good, at less than half the price. i don't get why you're trying to justify the note 7's cost for samsung, using excuses like "phone companies let you finance anyway", that's not a fair point to make, because the phone still cost more, period.
also, i see that you say the Note 7 doesn't have lag. really? go into settings and type into the search box. on my Exynos Note 7, after i type something in, there's a full two second wait before anything loads. on my US$280 Xiaomi Mi 5, or $400 OnePlus 3, results load in REAL TIME as i type each letter. the same lag also appears when you search for apps in Note 7's app tray.
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Eh, I'm not attempting to justify it so much as I am saying "it is what it is, and that there are affordable options for those who can't just buy the phone outright. For everyone else, and for those who do not care for the added specs, then there are a wide range of options out there. No doubt, the OnePlus 3 is a great phone for the price, and a good alternative for those who don't want to shell out the extra expenses. It is very much comparable in many ways, but as you said yourself, the Note 7 is better. I am, however, questioning the legitimacy of your statement that you own both phones after you stated your doubt as to people being able to tell the difference between 1080p and the display of the Note. Almost so much so, that I'd be willing to bet you're just a OnePlus3 owner. Maybe I just have good eyesight, but the HUGE difference between the phenomenal display of the Note 7 and the OnePlus 3 when put side to side was what made me go with the Note 7. Also, I can't speak for everyone, but I've owned this phone for a while now and have not experienced a single blip of lag. Then again, I don't use search functions for apps or settings due to the fact that I have a custom layout that has everything very easily accessible with a swipe and a click.
In terms of camera quality, yes, the OnePlus 3 barely falls behind. However, speed of focus, dark lighting, things like that, the Note 7 camera wins hands down.
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I am, however, questioning the legitimacy of your statement that you own both phones after you stated your doubt as to people being able to tell the difference between 1080p and the display of the Note. Almost so much so, that I'd be willing to bet you're just a OnePlus3 owner.
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Wow, Ryan, you're straight out calling me a liar on here when I typed a pretty reasonable response? How old are you, 14? anyway, i'd advice you stop making so many bad bets, cause you'd go broke.
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Wow, Ryan, you're straight out calling me a liar on here when I typed a pretty reasonable response? How old are you, 14? anyway, i'd advice you stop making so many bad bets, cause you'd go broke.
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I is that the p9 plus?
This phone is the best in 2016. Full of useful options and performance is awesome with a fantastic build quality
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I is that the p9 plus?
This phone is the best in 2016. Full of useful options and performance is awesome with a fantastic build quality
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Hi voodoo, yes that is a p9 plus. I like it a lot too, though, the note 7's rounded corners feels so much more comfy in my hands than the square edges of p9 plus.
I love mine! Completely happy with it. I feel like I got one of the better built ones? No light leaks, call quality is amazing compared to my iPhone 6, Note 4 N910W8, LG G4 and S5. Battery life a astonishing! Was out for 14 hours yesterday and had the screen on auto brightness 80-90% most of the time and an hour of Pokemon Go (brought my power bank in case never got to use it) at the end of the day it was still at 62%! Lol! I dont know if thats normal but I'm happy.
Edit:
Just finish Antutu 3D and got a 133565 score which is not bad for me. maybe its because I came from a note 4 my expectations are way low lol.
Love
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radioraheem2 said:
Hi voodoo, yes that is a p9 plus. I like it a lot too, though, the note 7's rounded corners feels so much more comfy in my hands than the square edges of p9 plus.
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I own a p9 plus also at moment and I love it, nevertheless the Note 7 is interesting for me.
Can you comment more on the differences?
I tried many devices and as I live in an area with poor reception one of the best things is that the p9 has absolutely unparalleled reception quality - also compared to the S7 Edge ...
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OnkelAlbert said:
I own a p9 plus also at moment and I love it, nevertheless the Note 7 is interesting for me.
Can you comment more on the differences?
I tried many devices and as I live in an area with poor reception one of the best things is that the p9 has absolutely unparalleled reception quality - also compared to the S7 Edge ...
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Hi,
The biggest difference is that the Note 7 feels a bit more comfortable in the hand, due to its rounded sides compared to the P9 plus' square-ish sides. The software is, obviously, quite different too if used as is. but i use nova launcher on both so they behave closer now.
otherwise, there isn't that big a difference. again, i really don't see a difference between 1080p and quad HD display (i really tried putting the phones side by side and looking at various photos and apps and videos), and the Note 7 camera -- while probably the best overall -- isn't that much better than other cameras out there. (http://www.forbes.com/sites/bensin/...etter-photos-than-far-cheaper-chinese-phones/). in fact, i love the P9's gimmick camera features like light trails and night shot, which create really stylish photos that the Note 7 cannot.
as for speed, the P9, like the OnePlus 3, is actually a bit smoother than the Note 7. the Note 7 isn't bad at all, it's just slightly laggy/buggy because of TouchWiz.
overall i would still say the Note 7 is the better phone, BUT i can't stress enough that the difference between the note 7 and a Chinese flagship isn't that big ... not enough to justify the extra $300 or $400 to the average consumer.
i'd recommend the Note 7 for the following types of people:
1: people who don't think US$400 is a lot of money
2: people who really need features like waterproofing and stylus (say, if you are a lifeguard, or if you need to anecdote documents regularly, etc)
3: tech geeks who like to collect gadgets and own the latest/most buzzworthy thing (i am one of these).
4: loyal samsung fans who just want to stick with the company's products
that's about it. otherwise, to the average person -- someone who just buys a phone and uses one phone only for a year or two -- it's very, very hard to justify paying US$850 for the note 7 when the OnePlus 3 costs US$400 or the Huawei P9 Plus costs US$500.
Note 7 is underrated by these standards
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i have both phones and i completely disagree. the oneplus 3 is actually faster and smoother (sometimes by quite a bit) and the photo differences are minor (this compares shots by both phones at 100% crop http://www.forbes.com/sites/bensin/...etter-photos-than-far-cheaper-chinese-phones/). and i don't know about you, but i'm willing to bet most people can't really tell the difference between a quad HD and 1080p display.
i'm not saying the oneplus 3 is better. overall, the Note 7 is better, but by only a bit (unless you are someone to whom stylus and waterproofing makes ALL THE DIFFERENCE. like if you're a lifeguard who likes to sketch or something).
the oneplus 3 is like 90-95% as good, at less than half the price. i don't get why you're trying to justify the note 7's cost for samsung, using excuses like "phone companies let you finance anyway", that's not a fair point to make, because the phone still cost more, period.
also, i see that you say the Note 7 doesn't have lag. really? go into settings and type into the search box. on my Exynos Note 7, after i type something in, there's a full two second wait before anything loads. on my US$280 Xiaomi Mi 5, or $400 OnePlus 3, results load in REAL TIME as i type each letter. the same lag also appears when you search for apps in Note 7's app tray.
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In performance, OnePlus seems amazing. However the reason I got the Note 7 as a expensive price was, Water Resistance/Proof for 1M 30 Minutes, Curved Screen and Design, Micro SD up to 256gb, Pen for drawing, Iris Scanner (For Wearing Gloves or wet fingerprint), 2K screen, (DPI doesn't matter but for VR, 2K+ definitively needed) Dual Camera and Powerful "Water-Proof" speaker. So far, I have used all these features and found them to be lacking in other phones. I did get Note 7 for Samsung Pay MST however Aussie support sucks so, just rooted and tripped knox.
The Screen is beautiful and curved that makes it appear bigger that it actually is without major size difference. The Water sealing without external ports is so easily to deal with and when i'm in the shower/bath the S-Pen actually helps. I kinda of just got this phone for the easy convenience features. Waterproof is a huge deal, specifically without external ports, it's a major design for people to get the phone. I hear sales people always advertising it and customers wanting it.
I don't own a OnePlus but I'm just saying despite this overpriced phone with it's security restrictions (Hate that) no other phone has all this. Not LG, not Nexus, not OnePlus, not Sony. I do like OnePlus open OEM policy, so no hate. Just hardware and general phone wise, Note 7 is worth twice the price.
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In performance, OnePlus seems amazing. However the reason I got the Note 7 as a expensive price was, Water Resistance/Proof for 1M 30 Minutes, Curved Screen and Design, Micro SD up to 256gb, Pen for drawing, Iris Scanner (For Wearing Gloves or wet fingerprint), 2K screen, (DPI doesn't matter but for VR, 2K+ definitively needed) Dual Camera and Powerful "Water-Proof" speaker. So far, I have used all these features and found them to be lacking in other phones. I did get Note 7 for Samsung Pay MST however Aussie support sucks so, just rooted and tripped knox.
The Screen is beautiful and curved that makes it appear bigger that it actually is without major size difference. The Water sealing without external ports is so easily to deal with and when i'm in the shower/bath the S-Pen actually helps. I kinda of just got this phone for the easy convenience features. Waterproof is a huge deal, specifically without external ports, it's a major design for people to get the phone. I hear sales people always advertising it and customers wanting it.
I don't own a OnePlus but I'm just saying despite this overpriced phone with it's security restrictions (Hate that) no other phone has all this. Not LG, not Nexus, not OnePlus, not Sony. I do like OnePlus open OEM policy, so no hate. Just hardware and general phone wise, Note 7 is worth twice the price.
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you make fair points. thanks for responding in a civil manner, unlike that dude AceRyan, who just accused me of being a liar.
vodovodo said:
i hate this phone
the build quality is the worst and there is gap between the device and the screen. u can see it when u at the brightness on full
please watch this video
the support response was this is a new design
the samsung arabia support completly ignored me
for me note 7 is as good as a cheap chinese phone regardless what it can do.
with such a trash build and poor support i am really wondering how are they number 1 ??
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you really did not see the mentioned flaws or defects when you bought the phone? I always check the things I buy before paying
As far as the phone, It's gorgeous. Minor things I don't like, but more or less, it's 5 stars.
vodovodo said:
i hate this phone
the build quality is the worst and there is gap between the device and the screen. u can see it when u at the brightness on full
please watch this video
the support response was this is a new design
the samsung arabia support completly ignored me
for me note 7 is as good as a cheap chinese phone regardless what it can do.
with such a trash build and poor support i am really wondering how are they number 1 ??
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@vodovodo- thanks for posting and making the video....was wondering, do you think the lack of build quality is because it is a non-US variant?
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i hate this phone
the build quality is the worst and there is gap between the device and the screen. u can see it when u at the brightness on full
please watch this video
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Are you sure that is not light leak but rather light refraction?
So Hi! Im thinking about to buy a new smartphone but cant decide buy htc 10 or samsung Note 7.
I know the good points of htc 10, but i wanna hear the "bad points" too.
Why you dont recommend me to buy this phone?
+Also i wanna ask how u guys found the display of htc 10? is it colorful enough? (as far i saw in videos to me its like it "lack of colors")
Thanks
Screen looks great both in the more saturated regular mode and the accurate sRGB mode.
Let's see, these are the first things that come to mind for me:
1) Screen isn't AMOLED so no true blacks
2) Screen, while visible in daylight, isn't closed to as bright as the Galaxy screens
3) Not waterproof
4) If you wear polarized sunglasses, then portrait view is blacked out unless you have a tempered glass protector
I generally do recommend the device, but here are some caveats you should be aware of:
1) Screen is not AMOLED. I personally don't care for AMOLED, but some might find this a deal breaker.
2) Battery life is only okay. I usually get 3-5 hours of SoT, but this varies depending on what ROM I have flashed.
3) Heat. The phone gets hot. This is because it's made of aluminum and is conducting heat away from the SoC, but not everyone will appreciate it. Other phones keep cooler better I think.
4) Price. There is practically no justifying this unless you buy on contract from a carrier and get a subsidized price. I'm on Verizon, and buying from retail would not make my monthly payments cheaper, so I bought on contract and got the device at $200. The OP3 is $100 cheaper, of similar construction except thinner, and only lacks an SD card slot (which it makes up for with twice the onboard storage).
Ultimately, I only recommend this phone if you absolutely need an SD card slot, prefer LCD to AMOLED, and use your phone speakers alot (the 10 has pretty good sound with the tweeter/woofer combo). Otherwise, the OP3 is a very nice phone with more RAM and a lively dev scene here on XDA. Both are otherwise the same phone. Same SOC, same OS, similar dimensions.
Main issue is slow internal memory, emmc instead of UFS 2.0.
Look at comparison below made with androbench.
https://goo.gl/photos/gqLZSGVbt9VkJ3gS8
Wysłane z mojego HTC_M10h
Bug, Bugs everywhere.
no RGB notification led
cannot disable flip over mute call
weak NFC and wifi
auto brightness sometime act weird
the headphone without inline volume control
missing many fancy stuff and details setting, such as more camera mode, cannot disable fast charge, no more fancy widget and app.
basically it is near the same as my Nexus experience, but nexus have much less bug and better firmware update policy.
no its own backup/data transfer app, use only google backup, end up I go for the app helium to transfer app data to the HTC 10
LCD is no where as good as my LG G3 and Nexus 5 JDI display, my HTC 10 got chinese LCD, but the sharp LCD seems much worst.
I buy it because I need a replacement immediate as my nexus 5 dead, it is cheap, if not the Note7 recall then I will buy the Note7, may be I will sold my HTC 10 when new batch of note 7 arrive
p.s. an example of some weird bug, cannot show sdcard name sometime.
I would say the lack of waterproofing would be the #1 reason to NOT buy this phone. While all other major brands, including now Apple are pushing IP67, the HTC 10 is IP53 which basically means that anything more than a splash of water will kill this phone. That sucks, but is far from a deal breaker to me.
The lack of blowing up in your pocket
I would recommend it as I have 3.
1. it has the best build quality of pretty much any maker.
2. Its faster than pretty much any other.
3. It has the best dev following most mods of any phone.
4. Turn off all the crap you dont need running and it has good battery life.
5. Its not amoled screen and I like the colors sammy boys can like amoled not everyone does.
6. It can be bought a lot cheaper with discounts and free accessories than any samsung.
7. Updates come a lot faster than most other makers usually with in 90 days.
8. You can unlock the bootloader.
9. It has the best sound of any smartphone easily add Viper4android and be amazed.
10. You can use your mounted sd card as internal storage.
11. And last but not least exploding batteries are not included.
Oh and I myself do not really care about water proof as I take care of my phone and keep it in a nice quality case.
Just my 2 cents, I bought mine directly from HTC in June. I have had to get it replaced 3 times for different issues. I always baby my devices (case, screen protector, never dropped, no water). 1st-vibration broke, 2nd-borked camera out of the box, 3rd-white burn in on screen and messed up GPS. I'm not saying these are widespread, and I really loved the phone, but I never had so many issues in such a short span.
thanks the info guys, im not say this 100% but probably ill end up with a note 7 but the main reason is display only.
Well being waterproof is a good too its not like ill go a pool with it but atleast can listen/change music in the bathtub lol
*hope dat one wont blow my leg off xD
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Just my 2 cents, I bought mine directly from HTC in June. I have had to get it replaced 3 times for different issues. I always baby my devices (case, screen protector, never dropped, no water). 1st-vibration broke, 2nd-borked camera out of the box, 3rd-white burn in on screen and messed up GPS. I'm not saying these are widespread, and I really loved the phone, but I never had so many issues in such a short span.
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I just sent mine in for GPS issues... I keep trying to give HTC a shot but they keep ruining potentially great phones. STILL, I prefer them to whatever else is out there on the market.
Sent from my m8 using XDA-Developers mobile app
Just got the US version, 64GB capacity... A warning to everyone that the phone is not 190g (6.7oz) as advertised on their website. I weighed it and it's actually 205g = 7.23oz (without sd card and without sim card).
I would never have thought to weigh the phone except that I noticed the phone being noticeably heavier (and more tiring to hold) compared to my Pixel 2 XL (at 175g). Before weighing it, I just couldn't believe that a supposed 15g (0.53oz) difference would be this noticeable -- so I weighed it to be sure.
I'm still deciding whether to keep it. I also haven't rooted it yet because I want to use it for a month or so to make sure there are no hardware issues where I may need to get a replacement.
UPDATE: The false advertisement is even worse. On the US Asus Store site where I purchased the phone, it's advertising the weight as 0.4lbs = 181grams, even less than the 190grams advertised on their general tech specs page.
Not only US version, but EU version too...
I weighed:
200.2g phone with one SIM card
216.8g phone with one SIM card and this silicone case https://ru.aliexpress.com/item/32891428136.html
16.6g silicone case itself
Oh wow, not just the US version.
I'm trying to figure out why ~1oz extra feels so much heavier (and tiring to hold).... maybe the small increase in thickness and the change in weight distribution is making it more tiring to hold?
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Not only US version, but EU version too...
I weighed:
200.2g phone with one SIM card
216.8g phone with one SIM card and this silicone case https://ru.aliexpress.com/item/32891428136.html
16.6g silicone case itself
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even worse
Just found out that the false advertisement is even worse.
On the US Asus Store site where I purchased the phone, it's advertising the weight as 0.4lbs = 181grams, even less than the 190grams advertised on their general tech specs page.
Hmmm, doesn't glass make phones heavier? Asus has a gorilla glass 3 on the back and gorilla glass 6 on the front. (in addition to 5k mah battery). That contributes to the weigh of it. If the back was only plastic or even aluminum, it might be lighter. But i take the main OP point. Specs should be on point and not off from customers tests. (like weight). They should have advertised the original weight rather than making it look more appealing by reducing it on the specs lol.
PS: (I personally don't care much about weight since, well, I spend the entire day dealing with heavy objects and the phone should feel like a feather to me (if i ever end up buying it). Also I have never though about buying or not buying a phone basing my decision on the "weight" factor.) LOL
Aside from the weighting, @neo_lithic3K , have you experience any technical issues? Please do create a thread regarding that if you do find some. Thank you!
Yeah, I'd imagine glass and bigger battery would make it heavier. I agree that the weight isn't normally a major factor in my decisions. The only reason I noticed it is because, before buying, I was comparing dimensions of the Pixel 2 XL vs Zenfone 6 to make sure it's not too big... and I also happened to see the weight as well (and thought... ok 15g isn't much heavier).
I'm hoping that I'll get used to the increased weight.. but I think a difference between 'dealing with heavy objects' all day and holding a smartphone is that the way I hold my phone isn't the same I would hold/carry, eg, a hammer or a UPS package. With a smartphone, it's more in the fingers.... a bit of a delicate balance between having a firm grip but not dropping it and not accidentally touching the screen at wrong place. The phone is also thicker so I have to stretch and extend my finger muscles just a tad bit more to hold it firmly.
No other technical issues but I did notice some technical differences. I did notice decreased brightness when looking at the phone from a 45 degree angle compared to my Pixel 2 XL which was noticeably brighter. Not a dealbreaker of course. I also notice that the vibration seems weaker compared to the Pixel 2 XL to the point where I cant feel it in my jeans pocket, even with vibration on max.
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Hmmm, doesn't glass make phones heavier? Asus has a gorilla glass 3 on the back and gorilla glass 6 on the front. (in addition to 5k mah battery). That contributes to the weigh of it. If the back was only plastic or even aluminum, it might be lighter. But i take the main OP point. Specs should be on point and not off from customers tests. (like weight). They should have advertised the original weight rather than making it look more appealing by reducing it on the specs lol.
PS: (I personally don't care much about weight since, well, I spend the entire day dealing with heavy objects and the phone should feel like a feather to me (if i ever end up buying it). Also I have never though about buying or not buying a phone because basing my decision on the "weight" factor.) LOL
Aside from the weighting, @neo_lithic3K , have you experience any technical issues? Please do create a thread regarding that if you do find some. Thank you!
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No other technical issues but I did notice some technical differences. I did notice decreased brightness when looking at the phone from a 45-degree angle compared to my Pixel 2 XL which was noticeably brighter. Not a dealbreaker of course. I also notice that the vibration seems weaker compared to the Pixel 2 XL to the point where I cant feel it in my jeans pocket, even with vibration on max.
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That's the downside of OLED screens vs IPS screens. IPS screens in some occasions are crispier than OLED screens. But certain angles do affect the overall brightness and visibility on IPS screens if compared with OLED, (in pixel 2 xl situation P.OLED). If there were only a way to create a screen with both worlds (a screen that wouldn't get a permanent burnt image and get crispy images and infinite contrast ration under normal circumstances, and high contrast ration under sunlight) boi that screen would be a beast!
hmmm vibration weaker. I wonder if we could change the vibration motor :3 . I feel like buying a broken zenfone 6 just to experiment with that. LOL
LOL that would be interesting... changing the motor out for a better one. Wishful thinking of course... but I was also wondering myself if it's possible to swap out the battery for a slightly lower capacity one. I'm never far from an outlet so I wouldn't mind getting a lower capacity battery if it makes the phone lighter....
LOL maybe in 10-20 years... technology would get to the point where we could get a screen with all those positives.
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That's the downside of OLED screens vs IPS screens. IPS screens in some occasions are crispier than OLED screens. But certain angles do affect the overall brightness and visibility on IPS screens if compared with OLED, (in pixel 2 xl situation P.OLED). If there were only a way to create a screen with both worlds (a screen that wouldn't get a permanent burnt image and get crispy images and infinite contrast ration under normal circumstances, and high contrast ration under sunlight) boi that screen would be a beast!
hmmm vibration weaker. I wonder if we could change the vibration motor :3 . I feel like buying a broken zenfone 6 just to experiment with that. LOL
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