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A2DP bluetooth quality?

Hi,
Anyone that knows at which settings A2DP is operating by default?
Bitpool?
Samplerate?
Where could those settings be altered? "\system\etc\bluetooth"?
jmelhus

I'd be interested in improving A2DP audio quality as well - some tracks really suffer via bluetooth.
It'd be nice if there was a way to play mp3 files directly, rather than having to transcode them to SBC first...

ClarkyCat said:
It'd be nice if there was a way to play mp3 files directly, rather than having to transcode them to SBC first...
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directly via a2dp compatible headsets?

le3ky said:
directly via a2dp compatible headsets?
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Yes.
There's another post about this here.

thanks for the info, didn't know about that

Thought it was just me!
Yeah - the high frequencies like cymbal crashes are distorted.

Nice I'm not the only one then
Gave a try looking into the source code, but were'nt able to clarify it... Maybe someone else that's more experienced?
Sorry folks, but I were'nt able to post a URL in this forum because I'm a new user (half a year) and my account is not reviewed yet
Snapshot of / platform/external/bluetooth/bluez.git:
android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/external/bluetooth/bluez.git;a=snapshot;h=3a8a13d6ce59205d0a68bdee4835fded32042791;sf=tgz
BTW, here is the problem reported to Google (please star this one)
code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9888&q=bitpool&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Owner%20Summary%20Stars

[Q] Music player with 5.1 ch sound?

I love the stock music player that came with my galaxy s because of it's ability to play music in 5.1 ch.
However, I have now flashed the latest MIUI to my sgs but the music player is not able to play music in 5.1 ch, so I was wondering if anyone of you guys know an app that can do this?
Thanks

5.1ch is just a sound effect. You can get it on any player app with basic tweaks to the equalizer settings.
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Ah, I see. Does anyone have any tips on how to achieve this with an eq?
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With 5.1ch people usually mean that instead of stereo (which is 2 channels, left + right) you have 4 additional channels (Center + Back left + Back Right + LFE or Bass (.1))
Your phone only has one speaker so I'm not sure how you want to achieve this.
The audio output is only capable of sending out stereo as well.
A source file with multi-channel audio is usually in *.vob format (DVD video format) but I know of no player that will show this on Android (except for the Archos Gen8 stock video player).
Audio only files would typically be in *.wav or *.ac3 format but same here, I know of no player that will play these multi-channel streams.
Perhaps I misunderstood your question?
Piepke

im sure you can find a port for the stock galaxy s player in this forum

Pierreken said:
With 5.1ch people usually mean that instead of stereo (which is 2 channels, left + right) you have 4 additional channels (Center + Back left + Back Right + LFE or Bass (.1))
Your phone only has one speaker so I'm not sure how you want to achieve this.
The audio output is only capable of sending out stereo as well.
A source file with multi-channel audio is usually in *.vob format (DVD video format) but I know of no player that will show this on Android (except for the Archos Gen8 stock video player).
Audio only files would typically be in *.wav or *.ac3 format but same here, I know of no player that will play these multi-channel streams.
Perhaps I misunderstood your question?
Piepke
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The stock galaxy s music player was able to simulate 5.1 ch (when headphones were plugged in) which provided a very nice boost in sound quality. What I'm looking for is either a port of that music player to MIUI or another music player that is able to do the same thing (or some eq settings that does it would also be fine).
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im sure you can find a port for the stock galaxy s player in this forum
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I have yet to find one that actually installs on my phone

That option is a load of bull XD.When you listen you only have 2 speakers assuming you are using earplugs which makes 2.0 the highest you can achieve. You shouldn't bother about it... just a stupid tweak that imho makes the sound sound worse...

your comment is a load of bull.. no offence here. But the guy is asking for something dont tell him if its bad or not. He likes it other people like it some dont like it you find it bull. But he doesnt comment you on that does he?
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And yes i find the sound nice to. And like other people said there are ways to get this trough EQ settings but so far i havnt got it the same as the stock player one

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your comment is a load of bull.. no offence here. But the guy is asking for something dont tell him if its bad or not. He likes it other people like it some dont like it you find it bull. But he doesnt comment you on that does he?
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And yes i find the sound nice to. And like other people said there are ways to get this trough EQ settings but so far i havnt got it the same as the stock player one
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All I was saying that the option is stupid and it's fake it doesnt provide 5.1ch surround sound and I thought he was thinking that and I was helping his out of his dream (read his 3rd post... this is the case here..). If this is the case my comment is valuable if this isn't well.. he'll just do nothing with the information... It's a win anyway, he has nothing to lose, playing around with a EQ is way better ;/. Install voodoo sound tbh if you want a good musical experience...

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All I was saying that the option is stupid and it's fake it doesnt provide 5.1ch surround sound and I thought he was thinking that and I was helping his out of his dream (read his 3rd post... this is the case here..). If this is the case my comment is valuable if this isn't well.. he'll just do nothing with the information... It's a win anyway, he has nothing to lose, playing around with a EQ is way better ;/. Install voodoo sound tbh if you want a good musical experience...
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The 5.1ch option was not stupid, even though it was fake. It made the sound much clearer and better on all headphones I used.
Will look into voodoo sound, thanks for the tip.

I had 5.1 available when I was using a gingerbread version I got from here. Now I can't seem to find one Pretty sure it was Calkulon or something along those lines. It was way better sound (with headphones) in my opinion, so I'm trying to find a current version that will deliver that "fake" surround
Epic touch 4g sprint running 4.1.2
On a side note, I got Jellybean using a vid a watched from QBking77 on youtube, and he references you guys alot.
There are some bugs with Jelly Bean... For instance my mic cuts out when I hold the phone to my face and the screen goes off. Bluetooth headset... NOT A CHANCE lol. On speakerphone i can talk just fine. Headset, works great too. Sometimes I have to pull the battery because the screen dims. But for the most part, it works great.

How to enable beats on poweramp player.

Hi all, im listen allot to FLAC music, and as you know the built in music app doest support this format, so i downloaded poweramp from google play and the sound was bad, so i search in the app how to improve the sound and i found an option to enable the beats audio,
Open the app, go to settings>audio engine>advanced tweaks> and unselect "direct volume control" and listen again
P.s sorry about my poor english, i really hope you all understand me.

ITAYSHARONI said:
Hi all, im listen allot to FLAC music, and as you know the built in music app doest support this format, so i downloaded poweramp from google play and the sound was bad, so i search in the app how to improve the sound and i found an option to enable the beats audio,
Open the app, go to settings>audio engine>advanced tweaks> and unselect "direct volume control" and listen again
P.s sorry about my poor english, i really hope you all understand me.
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The built in music app in fact does support FLAC since android 4.0

Why would you use Beats if you're a music enthousiast listening to FLACs?

You found the comprehensive eq in PowerAmp I take it? Always been able to get a decent sound tuned to the headphones I'm using. Beats is just a bass boost from the eighties.
Make sure you don't have the eq AND the tone controls (bass and treble) enabled, else they'll conflict. Chose one or other.
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Not sure about the OP, but on my device, Beats and PowerAmp, work right out of the box. The actual setting is only visible when you have a pair of headphones plugged in, then go to Sounds --> Sound Enhancer to select Beats

Quiksilver78 said:
Not sure about the OP, but on my device, Beats and PowerAmp, work right out of the box. The actual setting is only visible when you have a pair of headphones plugged in, then go to Sounds --> Sound Enhancer to select Beats
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WOrks samee for me here, too. Can I ask fellow PowerAmp users whether they have sudden dips and peaks in volume when browsing the phone and opening apps? Could you tell me if any advance tweaks you have, buffer size etc?
Thanks

The beats logo is showed from the box, but the sound isn't
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Thank you so much for find this and share with us. I loved Beats with the urBeats but now I can have both and PowerAmp with Beats. What a fantastic phone we have . Even the ICS Lockscreen feature does display Album Art on the HTC Lockscreen.

Hey thanks , that correct , now when I turn beats icon on/off can fill more baSS in sound, before this trick was no reaction.

pinn___________ said:
WOrks samee for me here, too. Can I ask fellow PowerAmp users whether they have sudden dips and peaks in volume when browsing the phone and opening apps? Could you tell me if any advance tweaks you have, buffer size etc?
Thanks
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Hmm, haven't noticed that, but in general the handling of notifications is very bad with PowerAmp!
Also, the fading function does not work anymore on One X. I posted about this in their forum and they said it is being looked at and will be fixed in the next update, whenever that is... :-/

I only enable Beats Profile when I need to dislodge ear wax. Otherwise I like being able to make out the words being sung.

pinn___________ said:
WOrks samee for me here, too. Can I ask fellow PowerAmp users whether they have sudden dips and peaks in volume when browsing the phone and opening apps? Could you tell me if any advance tweaks you have, buffer size etc?
Thanks
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Funny you mention this. I started noticing this after upgrading to 1.28
Also, the sudden pause/gap when listening to songs is also there; whether the next song starts (crossfading) or you fast-forward a song.
I think PowerAmp has not been optimized for the HTC One X yet. I hope the team is working on it. I love PowerAmp!
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Planet X said:
Thank you so much for find this and share with us. I loved Beats with the urBeats but now I can have both and PowerAmp with Beats. What a fantastic phone we have . Even the ICS Lockscreen feature does display Album Art on the HTC Lockscreen.
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I like that as well. When you select ICS Lockscreen in PowerAmp, it uses the actual HTC music widget on your lockscreen, that is very cool.

geenyous said:
Hmm, haven't noticed that, but in general the handling of notifications is very bad with PowerAmp!
Also, the fading function does not work anymore on One X. I posted about this in their forum and they said it is being looked at and will be fixed in the next update, whenever that is... :-/
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I've just noticed that if you change the thread priority to +1 , the dips in volume seem to go away. It's good that they are looking into optimizations tho
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FLAC, lossless audio with no drop in quality, used by audiophiles to obtain music in exactly the same sound/quality of the original.
Beats Audio - DSP EQ tuner software to alter the sound of the music, like using a crap DSP effect/EQ on a pc soundcard or ancient 1980's midi system
the 2 don't go together, you may as well use mp3 and save on storage space

zombiefly said:
FLAC, lossless audio with no drop in quality, used by audiophiles to obtain music in exactly the same sound/quality of the original.
Beats Audio - DSP EQ tuner software to alter the sound of the music, like using a crap DSP effect/EQ on a pc soundcard or ancient 1980's midi system
the 2 don't go together, you may as well use mp3 and save on storage space
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doesn't matter, let's music
I love to go to my company with playing music by 1X in my pocket. The quality of lossless music is acceptable
P/s : I'm using Pk2 earphone, not beat

zombiefly said:
FLAC, lossless audio with no drop in quality, used by audiophiles to obtain music in exactly the same sound/quality of the original.
Beats Audio - DSP EQ tuner software to alter the sound of the music, like using a crap DSP effect/EQ on a pc soundcard or ancient 1980's midi system
the 2 don't go together, you may as well use mp3 and save on storage space
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I don't think this is quite accurate, and furthermore do not understand the hate for Beats. I am not a fan by any means, but I really dislike it when people bash something because they read it elsewhere or someone else told them about it.
I am not saying that you are that person, Zombiefly
Reminds me of Windows Vista and people's perpetual dislike for the OS strictly from word of mouth when a lot of the bugs were squashed with SP1 (and subsequent SPs) ... but I digress
If some people like it, let them be. It just seems that every time someone expresses a certain preference for Beats or just ask a question about Beats in general, a lot of people jump on the hate bandwagon while not addressing anyone's questions; worse they say they prefer DSP Manager.
The irony here is that NONE OF THAT MATTERS if these so-called 'purists' are using Poweramp with the DVC option ticked on LOL; they're not even using Beats except for the notification icon haha.
Apologies for the rant - again, it has nothing to do with you specifically Zombiefly, just wanted to get that off my chest.

Errr, I might be being stupid here but where in Poweramp is the Sounds option?! I see the BeatAudio icon at the top when I plug headphones in and play music in Poweramp but turning Beats off or on in the notification bar makes no difference.
I cannot find an option for Beats anywhere in the Poweramp settings.
Thanks.

iouk said:
Errr, I might be being stupid here but where in Poweramp is the Sounds option?! I see the BeatAudio icon at the top when I plug headphones in and play music in Poweramp but turning Beats off or on in the notification bar makes no difference.
I cannot find an option for Beats anywhere in the Poweramp settings.
Thanks.
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Beats audio is a system feature not Poweramp. you can toggle it on/off from notification bar

iouk said:
Errr, I might be being stupid here but where in Poweramp is the Sounds option?! I see the BeatAudio icon at the top when I plug headphones in and play music in Poweramp but turning Beats off or on in the notification bar makes no difference.
I cannot find an option for Beats anywhere in the Poweramp settings.
Thanks.
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You have to click on 'Settings'
If you have the default three dots button (tap on that)
Click on Settings
Click on Audio Engine
Click on Advanced Tweaks
Disable Volume Control

pinn___________ said:
Beats audio is a system feature not Poweramp. you can toggle it on/off from notification bar
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I did say turning it off and on in the notification bar makes no difference.
Thanks Quiksilver78, that does the trick.

[Q] Supported audio files.

I couldn't find anything posted already, and just wanted to know if there is a list of supported files types with the Moto 360. All my music is in lossless format at the moment and wanted to see what format I would need for syncing to the device itself. I have scoured google several times for an answer, but have ever found one myself. Anyone know anything about this?
Thanks =)

Its based on gMusic so presumably the support should be the same.

There is no music or video stored on the watch it is used as a remote to whatever audio or video player that you use on your phone
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rurigokou said:
There is no music or video stored on the watch it is used as a remote to whatever audio or video player that you use on your phone
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Wrong, any music you download on the Google Play Music app on the phone can be uploaded to the Watch. (tick the "Download to Android Wear" in the Google Play Music settings)
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I couldn't find anything posted already, and just wanted to know if there is a list of supported files types with the Moto 360. All my music is in lossless format at the moment and wanted to see what format I would need for syncing to the device itself. I have scoured google several times for an answer, but have ever found one myself. Anyone know anything about this?
Thanks =)
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Right here is your answer
https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/1100462?hl=en

Stands corrected
I did not know that bit of information since i quit using google play music app years ago and keep it disabled; here is some good articles on it http://www.droid-life.com/2014/10/24/how-to-store-music-on-android-wear-for-offline-playback/ http://www.androidcentral.com/play-music-android-wear-how-use-it-and-what-it-still-needs but it has limitations; storage on watch 4GB, that is for all apps and music you will run out fast, play music makes it is extremely clunky to pick individual songs (see the android central article) , but my biggest concern would be battery life, (that streaming Bluetooth connection to you headset will eat the battery alive.) .

rurigokou said:
I did not know that bit of information since i quit using google play music app years ago and keep it disabled; here is some good articles on it http://www.droid-life.com/2014/10/24/how-to-store-music-on-android-wear-for-offline-playback/ http://www.androidcentral.com/play-music-android-wear-how-use-it-and-what-it-still-needs but it has limitations; storage on watch 4GB, that is for all apps and music you will run out fast, play music makes it is extremely clunky to pick individual songs (see the android central article) , but my biggest concern would be battery life, (that streaming Bluetooth connection to you headset will eat the battery alive.) .
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True on all counts, I'm going to try it while working out to see how much it kills the watch.

baldbear said:
True on all counts, I'm going to try it while working out to see how much it kills the watch.
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sweet, will be interested to hear about this

Probably easiest just to create a Moto360 playlist and sync that one.

General Issues with USB Dongles and external USB DACs

There is another problem with the Pixel 6 (6 and 6 pro) devices. External USB DACs and dongles do not work properly. USB Host API or the DAC offloading and hand-over are bugged. Apps like Tidal, Neutron, USB audio Player Pro crash or can't play music in high res. The problem has already been reported by some users. There has been no statement from Google yet.
A work around for me to get music playing and stop apps freezing was switching off the toggle for "allow all apps use mic" in system/privacy settings.
But this does not solve the issue, as the apps still can not access the USB Dongles or external DACs directly and by pass android system limitations and software processing.
Google skips the 3.5 port and users are forced to use dongles, etc., which do not even work properly.

Google is going the Apple way by certifying hardware that is compatible with the P6P and P6. Their response will be to buy a certified DAC or wait for a software patch

WTF, I don't find the USB PLAYER PRO on playstore... And you?

Myrzul said:
WTF, I don't find the USB PLAYER PRO on playstore... And you?
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This one? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro&hl=en

roirraW edor ehT said:
This one? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro&hl=en
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Yes.. It's not available on my pixel 6 pro.

Myrzul said:
Yes.. It's not available on my pixel 6 pro.
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Maybe they're still using some old Android API and need to start using a newer one. Hopefully, they update it for Android 12.

roirraW edor ehT said:
Maybe they're still using some old Android API and need to start using a newer one. Hopefully, they update it for Android 12.
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I hope for my DAC too... I'm sad

Myrzul said:
I hope for my DAC too... I'm sad
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Try their website https://www.extreamsd.com/ or their support email address [email protected] and let them know. If they're not already actively working on a solution, hopefully they will after you talk to them. Good luck!

They are all aware. I've talked to Davy (USB audio Player Pro). They removed the app for pixel 6 and pixel 6 pro from playstore because of the mentioned issues. The problems have nothing to do with their app. E.g. neutron and tidal are also not working properly or freezing. Google needs to fix their USB DAC hand over.

Nemuritor01 said:
They are all aware. I've talked to Davy (USB audio Player Pro). They removed the app for pixel 6 and pixel 6 pro from playstore because of the mentioned issues. The problems have nothing to do with their app. E.g. neutron and tidal are also not working properly or freezing. Google needs to fix their USB DAC hand over.
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Wow, that sucks. I hope they fix that pronto! Otherwise, I smell a class-action lawsuit (not from me).

Is it app specific and/or USB DAC specific? Because my FiiO BTR3K works fine.

Which app are you using?
Some apps can play music, but most can not bypass Android Software processing.
If you e.g. use tidal in MQA the app connects directly to the DAC and plays in high res.
Same does USB audio Player Pro. Then you see at the bottom "DAC" + bit...
Actually if I get it to play music at all, it's just direct mode, which means nothing.
Some dongles and DACs seem to be working, but just in low/software-processed quality.
So the problem is playing REAL high res, instead of android software compressed/processed audio.
Therefore the USB API seems to be broken. So as soon as the app tries to get direct access to the DAC it freezes or crashes.

Nemuritor01 said:
Which app are you using?
Some apps can play music, but most can not bypass Android Software processing.
If you e.g. use tidal in MQA the app connects directly to the DAC and plays in high res.
Same does USB audio Player Pro. Then you see at the bottom "DAC" + bit...
Actually if I get it to play music at all, it's just direct mode, which means nothing.
So the problem is playing REAL high res, instead of android software compressed/processed audio.
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Ah gotcha. I don't have anything playing actual high res audio files.

EeZeEpEe said:
Ah gotcha. I don't have anything playing actual high res audio files.
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Yeah, maybe you can play some processed, low quality music through your high res DAC. So the DAC is pretty useless, you could use a standard dongle with bull**** chip, as it doesn't matter.
I know a little bit what I'm talking about.
I did some audio ports and worked with UltraM8 and the other dudes on the Ainur Audio mods.

Nemuritor01 said:
Yeah, maybe you can play some processed, low quality music through your high res DAC. So the DAC is pretty useless, you could use a standard dongle with bull**** chip, as it doesn't matter.
I know a little bit what I'm talking about.
I was the guy doing the DTS port and worked with UltraM8 and the other dudes on the Ainur Audio mods.
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Yeah I don't even use it wired anyway. I just wanted a very good Bluetooth DAC. For me it's the best of both, using my wired headphones yet not tethered to the device it's connected to.

No issues playing the Hi-Res/Ultra HD music files on Amazon Music through the official Google dongle. Sounds pretty good, can't really tell the difference between it and the V60 that I've had prior.

prohibido_por_la_ley said:
No issues playing the Hi-Res/Ultra HD music files on Amazon Music through the official Google dongle. Sounds pretty good, can't really tell the difference between it and the V60 that I've had prior.
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As far as I know, Amazon app is still limited to phones native sampling rate and does not bypass Android limitations (android mixer). So it does not make use of the external DAC directly. Different story again. But please correct me, if I'm wrong.
But at least it's one DAC that plays some music.

Here the link to the Google support conversation.
What to do about USB-C audio outputs (adaptor + USB DAC) with pixel 6? - Google Pixel Community

I had a OnePlus 6 with Jack 3.5 and I bought a DAC for the Pixel 6 and I find this problem, I hope they will solve it soon. I can play music but with worse quality

Nemuritor01 said:
Here the link to the Google support conversation.
What to do about USB-C audio outputs (adaptor + USB DAC) with pixel 6? - Google Pixel Community
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I just read through the conversation and it just baffles me. So the "official" Pixel support forum is run by volunteers who basically tell you "if you have a problem, don't bother us, we just give you pre-prepared text-blocks - if they can't help you, we're out" - if you want "real" support, go and use "feedback form" - meaning you write a wall of text to an known person, won't get any sort of answer or input and have to pray that Google will care?
Uff.
I mean, as a Pixel user you can always try the
-> Settings
-> Tips & Support
-> Contact us
form, that way you can at least write to a person/talk to a human, even though they will most likely also just form a "feedback form" after your conversation, since they are powerless Tier I tech people.
I hope that Google can fix those problems here, so you guys can have fun with your device. Google certainly doesn't deserve the "our phone just works" - status, if they forget to add basic compatibility to common third party hardware.