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If xiaomi introduced roll-back protection on the latest miui 10 beta's, is there any way to go back to miui 9 now?
thanks
XDRdaniel said:
If xiaomi introduced roll-back protection on the latest miui 10 beta's, is there any way to go back to miui 9 now?
thanks
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There's no anti-rollback on MIX2.
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There's no anti-rollback on MIX2.
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Is that still the case? I have a mix 2 with MIUI Global 10.0 stable 10.0.2 .0. Does it still not have anti rollback protection? Would I be safe to unlock the bootloader and install any custom ROM?
seti007 said:
Is that still the case? I have a mix 2 with MIUI Global 10.0 stable 10.0.2 .0. Does it still not have anti rollback protection? Would I be safe to unlock the bootloader and install any custom ROM?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix-2/how-to/official-miui-10-public-global-beta-8-6-t3810356
There's info on it in this thread of mine, and you can always unlock and flash custom ROMs. Just make sure that when you go back to MIUI that you flash MIUI via fastboot or MiFlash and not TWRP. Also use MiFlash to switch between MIUI beta and stable and when downgrading MIUI. But there is no problem with custom ROMs.
rr111 said:
There's no anti-rollback on MIX2.
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rr111 said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix-2/how-to/official-miui-10-public-global-beta-8-6-t3810356
There's info on it in this thread of mine, and you can always unlock and flash custom ROMs. Just make sure that when you go back to MIUI that you flash MIUI via fastboot or MiFlash and not TWRP. Also use MiFlash to switch between MIUI beta and stable and when downgrading MIUI. But there is no problem with custom ROMs.
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Thank you so much for the response. Your thread looks like it is jam-packed with some really useful information. I'm certainly going to read through it. In any case, in a nutshell does this mean that my phone currently does not have the anti roll back protection on it?
seti007 said:
Thank you so much for the response. Your thread looks like it is jam-packed with some really useful information. I'm certainly going to read through it. In any case, in a nutshell does this mean that my phone currently does not have the anti roll back protection on it?
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It has, but you can unlock and install custom ROMs. But if you go back to official MIUI, flash it via MiFlash or fastboot.
rr111 said:
It has, but you can unlock and install custom ROMs. But if you go back to official MIUI, flash it via MiFlash or fastboot.
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Hi,
another (maybe noob) question: MIUI Beta versions has the anti-roll back system too? or it's safe to flash any version
thanks in advance
hi i am on currently miui 8.11.22 tried to flash Los but getting error : 7.
is it safe to downgrade to miui 8.4.19 via fastboot?
I am on Pixel Experience rom, and want to try another rom. I was on MIUI 10.02 and I unlocked bootloader and installed PE rom. Now I want to try another rom, but am afraid of bricking phone. Is it safe to flash another custom rom? or what?
Egyptiandroid said:
I am on Pixel Experience rom, and want to try another rom. I was on MIUI 10.02 and I unlocked bootloader and installed PE rom. Now I want to try another rom, but am afraid of bricking phone. Is it safe to flash another custom rom? or what?
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Flashing Custom ROMs is safe leaving aside MIUI based custom ROMs.
Go from Oreo to Pie or Pie to Oreo without a doubt in any AOSP or Lineage OS based ROM, but if you ever want to go back to MIUI or any MIUI based ROM just ensure that you install the latest version or the version higher than the one you had previously.
Only the firmware found in MIUI ROM is responsible for bricking. So you can also try firmware-less MIUI ROMs. There are many relevant threads regarding it.
Just do a search.
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RKStyles said:
Flashing Custom ROMs is safe leaving aside MIUI based custom ROMs.
Go from Oreo to Pie or Pie to Oreo without a doubt in any AOSP or Lineage OS based ROM, but if you ever want to go back to MIUI or any MIUI based ROM just ensure that you install the latest version or the version higher than the one you had previously.
Only the firmware found in MIUI ROM is responsible for bricking. So you can also try firmware-less MIUI ROMs. There are many relevant threads regarding it.
Just do a search.
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Ok what are roms that based on miui to avoid them?
It's easy to find by the nomenclature.
Their names include MIUI or a variation of it.
Some are: Revolution OS, MIUI Pro, MIUI Eu, Masik ROM.
Egyptiandroid said:
Ok what are roms that based on miui to avoid them?
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You could try SyberiaOS, Havoc MOD, Bootleggers, Pixel Experience Extended.
Letrix said:
You could try SyberiaOS, Havoc MOD, Bootleggers, Pixel Experience Extended.
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In your opinion which one is the best for the battery drain?
Oero :
U can go for MSM-Extended... Stable , Good battery life too !
Pie :
Liquid Remix
Superior OS
:good:
RKStyles said:
Flashing Custom ROMs is safe leaving aside MIUI based custom ROMs.
Go from Oreo to Pie or Pie to Oreo without a doubt in any AOSP or Lineage OS based ROM, but if you ever want to go back to MIUI or any MIUI based ROM just ensure that you install the latest version or the version higher than the one you had previously.
Only the firmware found in MIUI ROM is responsible for bricking. So you can also try firmware-less MIUI ROMs. There are many relevant threads regarding it.
Just do a search.
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Did u mean that miui based rom can brick my phone ?
Did u sure for that ?
I think the only way to brick it to go from arb4 to arb3 in miui official rom only but the miui based roms i dont think so .... But if u sure about that tell me again ?
Kireto00 said:
Did u mean that miui based rom can brick my phone ?
Did u sure for that ?
I think the only way to brick it to go from arb4 to arb3 in miui official rom only but the miui based roms i dont think so .... But if u sure about that tell me again ?
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I mentioned that you should always install a MIUI build that is of higher version than you previously had to be on the safer side.
After MIUI 9.5.17, ARB protection bumped to ARB4 from ARB3.
So, once you update to any ARB4 version and then make a mistake of installing any MIUI build of ARB3, your device will be bricked.
That's why I mentioned that always ensure that you install the latest build or the build with version higher than the one you had previously installed.
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Egyptiandroid said:
I am on Pixel Experience rom, and want to try another rom. I was on MIUI 10.02 and I unlocked bootloader and installed PE rom. Now I want to try another rom, but am afraid of bricking phone. Is it safe to flash another custom rom? or what?
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for safe flash use pitchblack recovery
you can upgrade and downgrade without brick your device
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I mentioned that you should always install a MIUI build that is of higher version than you previously had to be on the safer side.
After MIUI 9.5.17, ARB protection bumped to ARB4 from ARB3.
So, once you update to any ARB4 version and then make a mistake of installing any MIUI build of ARB3, your device will be bricked.
That's why I mentioned that always ensure that you install the latest build or the build with version higher than the one you had previously installed.
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I believe his question was about custom MIUI roms which have firmware update removed so that risk of bricking is non existent. I believe reading that Masik does not contain firmware, but I'm not sure.
Other than your good explanation about ARB4 vs ARB3, one thing to add: anyone on ARB4 can flash any ARB4 rom since the bootloader checks for anti rollback protection index but not the MIUI version specifically. So any rom starting from Stable v9.5.19 if I remember and Beta 8.7.6 are safe, until ARB5 comes (if it comes, and if it requires ARB5).
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I mentioned that you should always install a MIUI build that is of higher version than you previously had to be on the safer side.
After MIUI 9.5.17, ARB protection bumped to ARB4 from ARB3.
So, once you update to any ARB4 version and then make a mistake of installing any MIUI build of ARB3, your device will be bricked.
That's why I mentioned that always ensure that you install the latest build or the build with version higher than the one you had previously installed.
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Yes i was missed understanding ..... But i want to say that u can back to any version that had arb4 so you can go back to anyfrimware that has arb4
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abdullah alotaibi said:
for safe flash use pitchblack recovery
you can upgrade and downgrade without brick your device
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Why ? It will be bricked if u go from arb4 to arb3 as normal
abdullah alotaibi said:
for safe flash use pitchblack recovery
you can upgrade and downgrade without brick your device
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I am gonna try this recovery. But do you mean that i can even flash miui official rom without bricking phone?
Kireto00 said:
Did u mean that miui based rom can brick my phone ?
Did u sure for that ?
I think the only way to brick it to go from arb4 to arb3 in miui official rom only but the miui based roms i dont think so .... But if u sure about that tell me again ?
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as long as they tell you in the rom features or installation that doesnt affect ARB or doesnt touch firmware its ok.. but not sure if not all miui based roms have firmeareless. so you need to read rom intructions.
shea83 said:
In your opinion which one is the best for the battery drain?
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PE Extended. Also depends on the Kernel. But nothing like MIUI gives you better battery life.
try mcaosp rom... you won't switch to any other rom ever... best custom pie rom in my opinion. or if wanna go for miui based go for masik x1.7
shea83 said:
In your opinion which one is the best for the battery drain?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...rom-whyred-t3864111/post78150797#post78150797
Kireto00 said:
Yes i was missed understanding ..... But i want to say that u can back to any version that had arb4 so you can go back to anyfrimware that has arb4
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Why ? It will be bricked if u go from arb4 to arb3 as normal
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no not brick ,i am on pitchblack recovery and downgrade full miui rom 9 and work fine , i test it downgrade then upgrade miui10 and switch between dev china stable no problem:laugh:
abdullah alotaibi said:
no not brick ,i am on pitchblack recovery and downgrade full miui rom 9 and work fine , i test it downgrade then upgrade miui10 and switch between dev china stable no problem:laugh:
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You can downgrade to miui 9 arb4 frimwares but if u go to arb3 frinware it will be bricked i am sure of that
Kireto00 said:
You can downgrade to miui 9 arb4 frimwares but if u go to arb3 frinware it will be bricked i am sure of that
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i bricked mi device twice and solve it
i am on arb 4 thats not change.by pitchblack recovery i downgrade to arb3 roms wothout brick am sure and test .in youtobe search pitchblack recovery from arb4 to arb3
arb 4 not change but device not brick its work fine
Hello, I wanted to know if it is safe to change from MIUI 10.0.2.0 to any custom rom? Will there be any issues with antirollback? Thanks.
epulrevo said:
Hello, I wanted to know if it is safe to change from MIUI 10.0.2.0 to any custom rom? Will there be any issues with antirollback? Thanks.
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No. Only flashing custom ROMs will cause no issues. Antirollback should be untouched.
NOTE: Some custom rom requires FIRMWARE flashing along with the rom. In those cases you should make sure you have matching anti values with the firmware.
Hello. I have been using Xiaomi.eu 20.6.18 based on MIUI 12.1
In a few days I think that they will release MIUI 12.0 based stable release but my phone has ARP so I think that downgrading will brick it, don't it?
Anyway, this weekly ROM is working well at the moment but I would like to use the stable version someday. I have some doubts so I will put numbers in them:
1. Can I go back to MIUI 12.0 based ROM while using MIUI 12.1 based ROM or not? without triggering anti-rollback
2. Can I switch to Pixel Experience (for example) which is using Android 10? It is a newer version of Android but I don't know how MIUI ARP handles it
3. If the point 2 answer is 'yes', I suppose that ARP is gone (at least Xiaomi's one) so, can I install Xiaomi.eu MIUI 12.0 from Pixel Experience? (I will be downgrading I know)
Thanks all of you for your future answers, and sorry for the number of questions. Any doubt about my explanation or something just ask
Arb only matters if u go back to very old version of miui ie, 9 and some version of miui 10....it doesn't matter with custom ROMs also...u can also check ur current arb status
No arb was implemented with miui 9.5.19 (global stable), so u can go till this version without bricking ur phone.
As u r on latest beta u have an index value of 4.
Sidgup1998 said:
No arb was implemented with miui 9.5.19 (global stable), so u can go till this version without bricking ur phone.
As u r on latest beta u have an index value of 4.
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I'm currently on stable miui 11.0.3.0
I want to try xiaomi.eu miui 12 20.6.18 (latest build).But if I didn't like it,then can i return to stable miui 11 without bricking my device?
As i understand from previous comments,I won't brick my device as long as i'm returning to version 9.5.19 or after that.
But still i would want to confirm this.Please answer this question.
umair42 said:
I'm currently on stable miui 11.0.3.0
I want to try xiaomi.eu miui 12 20.6.18 (latest build).But if I didn't like it,then can i return to stable miui 11 without bricking my device?
As i understand from previous comments,I won't brick my device as long as i'm returning to version 9.5.19 or after that.
But still i would want to confirm this.Please answer this question.
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Anyone?Please.
umair42 said:
I'm currently on stable miui 11.0.3.0
I want to try xiaomi.eu miui 12 20.6.18 (latest build).But if I didn't like it,then can i return to stable miui 11 without bricking my device?
As i understand from previous comments,I won't brick my device as long as i'm returning to version 9.5.19 or after that.
But still i would want to confirm this.Please answer this question.
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Yes u can go easily.
I will recommend to go with fast boot method if u plan returning to miui 11
(I've used miui 12 20.6.18 eu build and successfully returned to miui 11 without bricking)
Sidgup1998 said:
Yes u can go easily.
I will recommend to go with fast boot method if u plan returning to miui 11
(I've used miui 12 20.6.18 eu build and successfully returned to miui 11 without bricking)
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Thanks for the reply.Can I use recovery method to return to miui 11?
And how was miui 12 20.6.18?Was it better than miui 11?
umair42 said:
Thanks for the reply.Can I use recovery method to return to miui 11?
And how was miui 12 20.6.18?Was it better than miui 11?
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Yes u can use the recovery method for returning back to miui 11.
Why i was recommending the fast boot method?
Bcoz I've seen if u flash global miui after flashing china based/eu roms, u cannot change ur region to other country other than china. Obviously this can be fixed by editing build.prop or flash region fix but u will have to root in the 1st case.
But u can try recovery method brother.
Yes miui 12 is better than 11 bcoz of new privacy features, ios style control center, no miui optimization api.
Sidgup1998 said:
Yes u can use the recovery method for returning back to miui 11.
Why i was recommending the fast boot method?
Bcoz I've seen if u flash global miui after flashing china based/eu roms, u cannot change ur region to other country other than china. Obviously this can be fixed by editing build.prop or flash region fix but u will have to root in the 1st case.
But u can try recovery method brother.
Yes miui 12 is better than 11 bcoz of new privacy features, ios style control center, no miui optimization api.
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Thanks i always root my phone so no problem for me.
is it necessary to flash stock rom before custom rom
No.
Custom ROM is marked by Third-party developer and stock ROM is marked by manufacture.
If you're on Stock ROM (MIUI) already, no.
If you're jumping from Custom ROM to another Custom ROM, then yes. Flash Stock ROM first. Otherwise you're risking a brick.
cyanGalaxy said:
If you're on Stock ROM (MIUI) already, no.
If you're jumping from Custom ROM to another Custom ROM, then yes. Flash Stock ROM first. Otherwise you're risking a brick.
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Is xiaomi eu a custom rom or not? Is global rom considered as stock rom? Im confused sorry. Im currently using weekly eu rom (miui 13 22.5.25).
NetteyLegend said:
Is xiaomi eu a custom rom or not? Is global rom considered as stock rom? Im confused sorry. Im currently using weekly eu rom (miui 13 22.5.25).
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Xiaomi.eu is a Custom ROM and not affiliated with Xiaomi.
Xiaomi.eu is a ROM based on MIUI China with its Xiaomi System-apps (instead of Google System-apps like in EU or Global).
Xiaomi.eu is basically the latest MIUI China, adds Google Play, removes system ads, disables some tracking by default, and some other optimisations for EU and Global.
Xiaomi.eu Weekly is also just MIUI China Weekly.
cyanGalaxy said:
Xiaomi.eu is a Custom ROM and not affiliated with Xiaomi.
Xiaomi.eu is a ROM based on MIUI China with its Xiaomi System-apps (instead of Google System-apps like in EU or Global).
Xiaomi.eu is basically the latest MIUI China, adds Google Play, removes system ads, disables some tracking by default, and some other optimisations for EU and Global.
Xiaomi.eu Weekly is also just MIUI China Weekly.
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Should I flash the official rom before I flash a custom rom? Also when I try to flash yung miflash the POCO F3 EEA Global rom here: https://xiaomifirmwareupdater.com/miui/
I ran in some problems, the anti rollback thing. It doesn't flash the global rom. I can boot normally back to my current miui 13 22.5.25 but I cant downgrade or change from UNOFFICIAL to OFFICIAL/GLOBAL rom. Please correct me if there's a mistake understanding because I dont know either if I understand. Thanks
NetteyLegend said:
Should I flash the official rom before I flash a custom rom? Also when I try to flash yung miflash the POCO F3 EEA Global rom here: https://xiaomifirmwareupdater.com/miui/
I ran in some problems, the anti rollback thing. It doesn't flash the global rom. I can boot normally back to my current miui 13 22.5.25 but I cant downgrade or change from UNOFFICIAL to OFFICIAL/GLOBAL rom. Please correct me if there's a mistake understanding because I dont know either if I understand. Thanks
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Also is Stock rom is same as global rom? or the stock rom is the miui itself whether it's official or unofficial? or Stock rom is the rom version out of the box the when the phone is open or used first time?
I want to flash other custom roms too
cyanGalaxy said:
Xiaomi.eu is a Custom ROM and not affiliated with Xiaomi.
Xiaomi.eu is a ROM based on MIUI China with its Xiaomi System-apps (instead of Google System-apps like in EU or Global).
Xiaomi.eu is basically the latest MIUI China, adds Google Play, removes system ads, disables some tracking by default, and some other optimisations for EU and Global.
Xiaomi.eu Weekly is also just MIUI China Weekly.
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My rollback value is 1. Is rollback thing applicable only on miui roms? what about other roms? Are custom rom have anti rollback just like miui. I once brick my device, when i tried to bypass anti rollback in miflash by removing some codes. That time idk what is the purpose of that until now.
NetteyLegend said:
My rollback value is 1. Is rollback thing applicable only on miui roms? what about other roms? Are custom rom have anti rollback just like miui. I once brick my device, when i tried to bypass anti rollback in miflash by removing some codes. That time idk what is the purpose of that until now.
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NetteyLegend said:
My rollback value is 1. Is rollback thing applicable only on miui roms? what about other roms? Are custom rom have anti rollback just like miui. I once brick my device, when i tried to bypass anti rollback in miflash by removing some codes. That time idk what is the purpose of that until now.
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Stock ROM = Original software that your phone shipped with
Good resource on what Anti-Rollback Protection is:
Xiaomi's Anti-Rollback Protection Explained: How to avoid bricking your phone
All Xiaomi smartphones and tablets will have anti-rollback protection enabled. What is it and how do you avoid bricking your device because of it?
www.xda-developers.com
Other phones have ARP too, however Xiaomi has implemented it differently.
I don't fully understand how Xiaomi devices are getting bricked through this... But I try to avoid circumstances where I downgrade... :S
I don't think it's a good idea to remove the Anti-Rollback Protection Code in the MIUI ROMs... Isn't the code there to protect you?
I'm not sure :/
cyanGalaxy said:
Stock ROM = Original software that your phone shipped with
Good resource on what Anti-Rollback Protection is:
Xiaomi's Anti-Rollback Protection Explained: How to avoid bricking your phone
All Xiaomi smartphones and tablets will have anti-rollback protection enabled. What is it and how do you avoid bricking your device because of it?
www.xda-developers.com
Other phones have ARP too, however Xiaomi has implemented it differently.
I don't fully understand how Xiaomi devices are getting bricked through this... But I try to avoid circumstances where I downgrade... :S
I don't think it's a good idea to remove the Anti-Rollback Protection Code in the MIUI ROMs... Isn't the code there to protect you?
I'm not sure :/
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I experience it the hard way, but now its ok. M either I dont know how i manage to boot it back to miui even I remove the code and brick my device. Also I check my Anti rollback protection value and fastboot command prompt says =1. Do i need fastboot miui rom that has the same anti rollback value?
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cyanGalaxy said:
Stock ROM = Original software that your phone shipped with
Good resource on what Anti-Rollback Protection is:
Xiaomi's Anti-Rollback Protection Explained: How to avoid bricking your phone
All Xiaomi smartphones and tablets will have anti-rollback protection enabled. What is it and how do you avoid bricking your device because of it?
www.xda-developers.com
Other phones have ARP too, however Xiaomi has implemented it differently.
I don't fully understand how Xiaomi devices are getting bricked through this... But I try to avoid circumstances where I downgrade... :S
I don't think it's a good idea to remove the Anti-Rollback Protection Code in the MIUI ROMs... Isn't the code there to protect you?
I'm not sure :/
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also how do I know my stock rom? I cant remember it.