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I am new to Mi 6 and I am thinking to root. But how frequent are the updates? I want to know so that I can decide whether to root now or not. And can you get updates after root?
One extra question is that you use odin for samsung phones to flash stock firmware, what you use for mi 6?
Thanks
Depends on ROM you are using. If it's DEV rom - updates are every week (thursday/friday). If it's global - updates are irregular, made in long intervals of time.
I, personally, am using xiaomi.eu dev rom (MIUI 9.1 v. 7.11.16), and I have rooted Mi6. After update you are losing root and you'll need to root again. So, answering your question - you can update safely even if you have root, but you will need to root again.
When I was switching from stock global to xiaomi.eu rom, I simply unlocked bootloader (if you have agreement from Xiaomi), flashed twrp, then flashed rom from zip. After that you have OTA updates so it's simple and easy.
If you want stock rom - I suggest using MiFlash tool.
MaX2oo said:
Depends on ROM you are using. If it's DEV rom - updates are every week (thursday/friday). If it's global - updates are irregular, made in long intervals of time.
I, personally, am using xiaomi.eu dev rom (MIUI 9.1 v. 7.11.16), and I have rooted Mi6. After update you are losing root and you'll need to root again. So, answering your question - you can update safely even if you have root, but you will need to root again.
When I was switching from stock global to xiaomi.eu rom, I simply unlocked bootloader (if you have agreement from Xiaomi), flashed twrp, then flashed rom from zip. After that you have OTA updates so it's simple and easy.
If you want stock rom - I suggest using MiFlash tool.
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Hey thanks man. So even with root and twrp I will get OTA updates? I am on global rom
Sure, you have to unlock the bootloader of your phone before you can install TWRP and root.
Then you can install whatever you want... MIUI Weekly ROMs, Stable ROMs, custom ROMs .. etc.
zapperbyte said:
Sure, you have to unlock the bootloader of your phone before you can install TWRP and root.
Then you can install whatever you want... MIUI Weekly ROMs, Stable ROMs, custom ROMs .. etc.
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where to find stable roms?
UnNaMeD__ said:
where to find stable roms?
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http://en.miui.com/download-326.html those are official xiaomi's stable global ROMs
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=36337 xiaomi.eu's (unofficial, fan-made) stable ROMs.
allweknowisa said:
http://en.miui.com/download-326.html those are official xiaomi's stable global ROMs
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=36337 xiaomi.eu's (unofficial, fan-made) stable ROMs.
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Thanks a lot man.
I'll be able to unlock my bootloader in less than 24h, and the first ROM I want to try is the Pixel Experience ROM (android P). I'm currently on MIUI 10 8.8.23 Global version. Can I just unlock the bootloader, flash RedWolf Recovery through adb, do a full wipe and flash Pixel ROM without worrying about ARB or anything?
Thanks!
Silvers91 said:
I'll be able to unlock my bootloader in less than 24h, and the first ROM I want to try is the Pixel Experience ROM (android P). I'm currently on MIUI 10 8.8.23 Global version. Can I just unlock the bootloader, flash RedWolf Recovery through adb, do a full wipe and flash Pixel ROM without worrying about ARB or anything?
Thanks!
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8.8.23 has arb4
LeekGeek said:
8.8.23 has arb4
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So I will brick my device if I flash Pixel ROM?
Silvers91 said:
I'll be able to unlock my bootloader in less than 24h, and the first ROM I want to try is the Pixel Experience ROM (android P). I'm currently on MIUI 10 8.8.23 Global version. Can I just unlock the bootloader, flash RedWolf Recovery through adb, do a full wipe and flash Pixel ROM without worrying about ARB or anything?
Thanks!
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yes ..
just make sure that if ever going back to miui that it be a ARB4..
raptorddd said:
yes ..
just make sure that if ever going back to miui that it be a ARB4..
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So what do I need to do to avoid bricking?
Silvers91 said:
So what do I need to do to avoid bricking?
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if going back to miui 9.5 dont flash 9.5.17.0 or older roms.. from 9.5.17.0 and older they are ARB3..
if miui 10 dont flash 8.7.5 thats ARB3..
raptorddd said:
if going back to miui 9.5 dont flash 9.5.17.0 or older roms.. from 9.5.17.0 and older they are ARB3..
if miui 10 dont flash 8.7.5 thats ARB3..
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Umm dude read my post again. I said I'm on MIUI 10 8.8.23 (which is the latest one), I don't want to flash MIUI, but I want to flash Pixel Experience ROM. How will that trigger ARB? I understand very well that if I want to go back to MIUI, I need to flash the latest version of MIUI available.
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Umm dude read my post again. I said I'm on MIUI 10 8.8.23 (which is the latest one), I don't want to flash MIUI, but I want to flash Pixel Experience ROM. How will that trigger ARB? I understand very well that if I want to go back to MIUI, I need to flash the latest version of MIUI available.
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and i did said YES.... to pixel experience...
but i wanted to kindly let you know about ARB.. in case you didnt know..
Silvers91 said:
Umm dude read my post again. I said I'm on MIUI 10 8.8.23 (which is the latest one), I don't want to flash MIUI, but I want to flash Pixel Experience ROM. How will that trigger ARB? I understand very well that if I want to go back to MIUI, I need to flash the latest version of MIUI available.
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Just flash pixel ROM
For other custom ROMs do not flash any firmware file recommended by custom ROM developer, because those firmware files are 8.7.5 MIUI firmware. If you try to flash firmware files then you are going to brick your device
nfl46 said:
Did you successfully get it installed?
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Not yet, still 2 hours to go.
I'm on the latest MIUI 10.0.0.1 stable Chinese.
I just want to flash the latest Global. Can I do this by just unlocking bootloader, flash RedWolf Recovery, then flash the latest Global recovery.zip file? Or do I need to worry about ARB?
If you want to go back, make sure you will flash these version or higher
I am on Pixel Experience rom, and want to try another rom. I was on MIUI 10.02 and I unlocked bootloader and installed PE rom. Now I want to try another rom, but am afraid of bricking phone. Is it safe to flash another custom rom? or what?
Egyptiandroid said:
I am on Pixel Experience rom, and want to try another rom. I was on MIUI 10.02 and I unlocked bootloader and installed PE rom. Now I want to try another rom, but am afraid of bricking phone. Is it safe to flash another custom rom? or what?
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Flashing Custom ROMs is safe leaving aside MIUI based custom ROMs.
Go from Oreo to Pie or Pie to Oreo without a doubt in any AOSP or Lineage OS based ROM, but if you ever want to go back to MIUI or any MIUI based ROM just ensure that you install the latest version or the version higher than the one you had previously.
Only the firmware found in MIUI ROM is responsible for bricking. So you can also try firmware-less MIUI ROMs. There are many relevant threads regarding it.
Just do a search.
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RKStyles said:
Flashing Custom ROMs is safe leaving aside MIUI based custom ROMs.
Go from Oreo to Pie or Pie to Oreo without a doubt in any AOSP or Lineage OS based ROM, but if you ever want to go back to MIUI or any MIUI based ROM just ensure that you install the latest version or the version higher than the one you had previously.
Only the firmware found in MIUI ROM is responsible for bricking. So you can also try firmware-less MIUI ROMs. There are many relevant threads regarding it.
Just do a search.
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Ok what are roms that based on miui to avoid them?
It's easy to find by the nomenclature.
Their names include MIUI or a variation of it.
Some are: Revolution OS, MIUI Pro, MIUI Eu, Masik ROM.
Egyptiandroid said:
Ok what are roms that based on miui to avoid them?
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You could try SyberiaOS, Havoc MOD, Bootleggers, Pixel Experience Extended.
Letrix said:
You could try SyberiaOS, Havoc MOD, Bootleggers, Pixel Experience Extended.
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In your opinion which one is the best for the battery drain?
Oero :
U can go for MSM-Extended... Stable , Good battery life too !
Pie :
Liquid Remix
Superior OS
:good:
RKStyles said:
Flashing Custom ROMs is safe leaving aside MIUI based custom ROMs.
Go from Oreo to Pie or Pie to Oreo without a doubt in any AOSP or Lineage OS based ROM, but if you ever want to go back to MIUI or any MIUI based ROM just ensure that you install the latest version or the version higher than the one you had previously.
Only the firmware found in MIUI ROM is responsible for bricking. So you can also try firmware-less MIUI ROMs. There are many relevant threads regarding it.
Just do a search.
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Did u mean that miui based rom can brick my phone ?
Did u sure for that ?
I think the only way to brick it to go from arb4 to arb3 in miui official rom only but the miui based roms i dont think so .... But if u sure about that tell me again ?
Kireto00 said:
Did u mean that miui based rom can brick my phone ?
Did u sure for that ?
I think the only way to brick it to go from arb4 to arb3 in miui official rom only but the miui based roms i dont think so .... But if u sure about that tell me again ?
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I mentioned that you should always install a MIUI build that is of higher version than you previously had to be on the safer side.
After MIUI 9.5.17, ARB protection bumped to ARB4 from ARB3.
So, once you update to any ARB4 version and then make a mistake of installing any MIUI build of ARB3, your device will be bricked.
That's why I mentioned that always ensure that you install the latest build or the build with version higher than the one you had previously installed.
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Egyptiandroid said:
I am on Pixel Experience rom, and want to try another rom. I was on MIUI 10.02 and I unlocked bootloader and installed PE rom. Now I want to try another rom, but am afraid of bricking phone. Is it safe to flash another custom rom? or what?
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for safe flash use pitchblack recovery
you can upgrade and downgrade without brick your device
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I mentioned that you should always install a MIUI build that is of higher version than you previously had to be on the safer side.
After MIUI 9.5.17, ARB protection bumped to ARB4 from ARB3.
So, once you update to any ARB4 version and then make a mistake of installing any MIUI build of ARB3, your device will be bricked.
That's why I mentioned that always ensure that you install the latest build or the build with version higher than the one you had previously installed.
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I believe his question was about custom MIUI roms which have firmware update removed so that risk of bricking is non existent. I believe reading that Masik does not contain firmware, but I'm not sure.
Other than your good explanation about ARB4 vs ARB3, one thing to add: anyone on ARB4 can flash any ARB4 rom since the bootloader checks for anti rollback protection index but not the MIUI version specifically. So any rom starting from Stable v9.5.19 if I remember and Beta 8.7.6 are safe, until ARB5 comes (if it comes, and if it requires ARB5).
RKStyles said:
I mentioned that you should always install a MIUI build that is of higher version than you previously had to be on the safer side.
After MIUI 9.5.17, ARB protection bumped to ARB4 from ARB3.
So, once you update to any ARB4 version and then make a mistake of installing any MIUI build of ARB3, your device will be bricked.
That's why I mentioned that always ensure that you install the latest build or the build with version higher than the one you had previously installed.
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Yes i was missed understanding ..... But i want to say that u can back to any version that had arb4 so you can go back to anyfrimware that has arb4
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abdullah alotaibi said:
for safe flash use pitchblack recovery
you can upgrade and downgrade without brick your device
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Why ? It will be bricked if u go from arb4 to arb3 as normal
abdullah alotaibi said:
for safe flash use pitchblack recovery
you can upgrade and downgrade without brick your device
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I am gonna try this recovery. But do you mean that i can even flash miui official rom without bricking phone?
Kireto00 said:
Did u mean that miui based rom can brick my phone ?
Did u sure for that ?
I think the only way to brick it to go from arb4 to arb3 in miui official rom only but the miui based roms i dont think so .... But if u sure about that tell me again ?
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as long as they tell you in the rom features or installation that doesnt affect ARB or doesnt touch firmware its ok.. but not sure if not all miui based roms have firmeareless. so you need to read rom intructions.
shea83 said:
In your opinion which one is the best for the battery drain?
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PE Extended. Also depends on the Kernel. But nothing like MIUI gives you better battery life.
try mcaosp rom... you won't switch to any other rom ever... best custom pie rom in my opinion. or if wanna go for miui based go for masik x1.7
shea83 said:
In your opinion which one is the best for the battery drain?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...rom-whyred-t3864111/post78150797#post78150797
Kireto00 said:
Yes i was missed understanding ..... But i want to say that u can back to any version that had arb4 so you can go back to anyfrimware that has arb4
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Why ? It will be bricked if u go from arb4 to arb3 as normal
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no not brick ,i am on pitchblack recovery and downgrade full miui rom 9 and work fine , i test it downgrade then upgrade miui10 and switch between dev china stable no problem:laugh:
abdullah alotaibi said:
no not brick ,i am on pitchblack recovery and downgrade full miui rom 9 and work fine , i test it downgrade then upgrade miui10 and switch between dev china stable no problem:laugh:
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You can downgrade to miui 9 arb4 frimwares but if u go to arb3 frinware it will be bricked i am sure of that
Kireto00 said:
You can downgrade to miui 9 arb4 frimwares but if u go to arb3 frinware it will be bricked i am sure of that
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i bricked mi device twice and solve it
i am on arb 4 thats not change.by pitchblack recovery i downgrade to arb3 roms wothout brick am sure and test .in youtobe search pitchblack recovery from arb4 to arb3
arb 4 not change but device not brick its work fine
can I switch from global miui to beta without having problems with anti roll back?
twrp and custom roms should be in accordance with the status of the anti-roll back system?
thanks
~Cristiano said:
can I switch from global miui to beta without having problems with anti roll back?
twrp and custom roms should be in accordance with the status of the anti-roll back system?
thanks
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You can just make sure your flashing an ARB enabled ROM and later than version your using. Custom ROMs are not affected by this so dont worry just get the right recovery like orange fox
Thanks for asking me that question.
Hello experts,
I wanna downgrade from miui 11 v11.0.1.0 (QEDMIXM) to Miui11 V 11.0.7.0 (PEDMIXM), is it safe to downgrade without hardbrick? Secondly, I checked, both roms have ARB level 4 protection. Need your expert advise before going to downgrade.
Thanks in advance
is it necessary to flash stock rom before custom rom
No.
Custom ROM is marked by Third-party developer and stock ROM is marked by manufacture.
If you're on Stock ROM (MIUI) already, no.
If you're jumping from Custom ROM to another Custom ROM, then yes. Flash Stock ROM first. Otherwise you're risking a brick.
cyanGalaxy said:
If you're on Stock ROM (MIUI) already, no.
If you're jumping from Custom ROM to another Custom ROM, then yes. Flash Stock ROM first. Otherwise you're risking a brick.
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Is xiaomi eu a custom rom or not? Is global rom considered as stock rom? Im confused sorry. Im currently using weekly eu rom (miui 13 22.5.25).
NetteyLegend said:
Is xiaomi eu a custom rom or not? Is global rom considered as stock rom? Im confused sorry. Im currently using weekly eu rom (miui 13 22.5.25).
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Xiaomi.eu is a Custom ROM and not affiliated with Xiaomi.
Xiaomi.eu is a ROM based on MIUI China with its Xiaomi System-apps (instead of Google System-apps like in EU or Global).
Xiaomi.eu is basically the latest MIUI China, adds Google Play, removes system ads, disables some tracking by default, and some other optimisations for EU and Global.
Xiaomi.eu Weekly is also just MIUI China Weekly.
cyanGalaxy said:
Xiaomi.eu is a Custom ROM and not affiliated with Xiaomi.
Xiaomi.eu is a ROM based on MIUI China with its Xiaomi System-apps (instead of Google System-apps like in EU or Global).
Xiaomi.eu is basically the latest MIUI China, adds Google Play, removes system ads, disables some tracking by default, and some other optimisations for EU and Global.
Xiaomi.eu Weekly is also just MIUI China Weekly.
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Should I flash the official rom before I flash a custom rom? Also when I try to flash yung miflash the POCO F3 EEA Global rom here: https://xiaomifirmwareupdater.com/miui/
I ran in some problems, the anti rollback thing. It doesn't flash the global rom. I can boot normally back to my current miui 13 22.5.25 but I cant downgrade or change from UNOFFICIAL to OFFICIAL/GLOBAL rom. Please correct me if there's a mistake understanding because I dont know either if I understand. Thanks
NetteyLegend said:
Should I flash the official rom before I flash a custom rom? Also when I try to flash yung miflash the POCO F3 EEA Global rom here: https://xiaomifirmwareupdater.com/miui/
I ran in some problems, the anti rollback thing. It doesn't flash the global rom. I can boot normally back to my current miui 13 22.5.25 but I cant downgrade or change from UNOFFICIAL to OFFICIAL/GLOBAL rom. Please correct me if there's a mistake understanding because I dont know either if I understand. Thanks
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Also is Stock rom is same as global rom? or the stock rom is the miui itself whether it's official or unofficial? or Stock rom is the rom version out of the box the when the phone is open or used first time?
I want to flash other custom roms too
cyanGalaxy said:
Xiaomi.eu is a Custom ROM and not affiliated with Xiaomi.
Xiaomi.eu is a ROM based on MIUI China with its Xiaomi System-apps (instead of Google System-apps like in EU or Global).
Xiaomi.eu is basically the latest MIUI China, adds Google Play, removes system ads, disables some tracking by default, and some other optimisations for EU and Global.
Xiaomi.eu Weekly is also just MIUI China Weekly.
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My rollback value is 1. Is rollback thing applicable only on miui roms? what about other roms? Are custom rom have anti rollback just like miui. I once brick my device, when i tried to bypass anti rollback in miflash by removing some codes. That time idk what is the purpose of that until now.
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My rollback value is 1. Is rollback thing applicable only on miui roms? what about other roms? Are custom rom have anti rollback just like miui. I once brick my device, when i tried to bypass anti rollback in miflash by removing some codes. That time idk what is the purpose of that until now.
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NetteyLegend said:
My rollback value is 1. Is rollback thing applicable only on miui roms? what about other roms? Are custom rom have anti rollback just like miui. I once brick my device, when i tried to bypass anti rollback in miflash by removing some codes. That time idk what is the purpose of that until now.
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Stock ROM = Original software that your phone shipped with
Good resource on what Anti-Rollback Protection is:
Xiaomi's Anti-Rollback Protection Explained: How to avoid bricking your phone
All Xiaomi smartphones and tablets will have anti-rollback protection enabled. What is it and how do you avoid bricking your device because of it?
www.xda-developers.com
Other phones have ARP too, however Xiaomi has implemented it differently.
I don't fully understand how Xiaomi devices are getting bricked through this... But I try to avoid circumstances where I downgrade... :S
I don't think it's a good idea to remove the Anti-Rollback Protection Code in the MIUI ROMs... Isn't the code there to protect you?
I'm not sure :/
cyanGalaxy said:
Stock ROM = Original software that your phone shipped with
Good resource on what Anti-Rollback Protection is:
Xiaomi's Anti-Rollback Protection Explained: How to avoid bricking your phone
All Xiaomi smartphones and tablets will have anti-rollback protection enabled. What is it and how do you avoid bricking your device because of it?
www.xda-developers.com
Other phones have ARP too, however Xiaomi has implemented it differently.
I don't fully understand how Xiaomi devices are getting bricked through this... But I try to avoid circumstances where I downgrade... :S
I don't think it's a good idea to remove the Anti-Rollback Protection Code in the MIUI ROMs... Isn't the code there to protect you?
I'm not sure :/
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I experience it the hard way, but now its ok. M either I dont know how i manage to boot it back to miui even I remove the code and brick my device. Also I check my Anti rollback protection value and fastboot command prompt says =1. Do i need fastboot miui rom that has the same anti rollback value?
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cyanGalaxy said:
Stock ROM = Original software that your phone shipped with
Good resource on what Anti-Rollback Protection is:
Xiaomi's Anti-Rollback Protection Explained: How to avoid bricking your phone
All Xiaomi smartphones and tablets will have anti-rollback protection enabled. What is it and how do you avoid bricking your device because of it?
www.xda-developers.com
Other phones have ARP too, however Xiaomi has implemented it differently.
I don't fully understand how Xiaomi devices are getting bricked through this... But I try to avoid circumstances where I downgrade... :S
I don't think it's a good idea to remove the Anti-Rollback Protection Code in the MIUI ROMs... Isn't the code there to protect you?
I'm not sure :/
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also how do I know my stock rom? I cant remember it.