is it necessary to flash stock rom before custom rom
No.
Custom ROM is marked by Third-party developer and stock ROM is marked by manufacture.
If you're on Stock ROM (MIUI) already, no.
If you're jumping from Custom ROM to another Custom ROM, then yes. Flash Stock ROM first. Otherwise you're risking a brick.
cyanGalaxy said:
If you're on Stock ROM (MIUI) already, no.
If you're jumping from Custom ROM to another Custom ROM, then yes. Flash Stock ROM first. Otherwise you're risking a brick.
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Is xiaomi eu a custom rom or not? Is global rom considered as stock rom? Im confused sorry. Im currently using weekly eu rom (miui 13 22.5.25).
NetteyLegend said:
Is xiaomi eu a custom rom or not? Is global rom considered as stock rom? Im confused sorry. Im currently using weekly eu rom (miui 13 22.5.25).
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Xiaomi.eu is a Custom ROM and not affiliated with Xiaomi.
Xiaomi.eu is a ROM based on MIUI China with its Xiaomi System-apps (instead of Google System-apps like in EU or Global).
Xiaomi.eu is basically the latest MIUI China, adds Google Play, removes system ads, disables some tracking by default, and some other optimisations for EU and Global.
Xiaomi.eu Weekly is also just MIUI China Weekly.
cyanGalaxy said:
Xiaomi.eu is a Custom ROM and not affiliated with Xiaomi.
Xiaomi.eu is a ROM based on MIUI China with its Xiaomi System-apps (instead of Google System-apps like in EU or Global).
Xiaomi.eu is basically the latest MIUI China, adds Google Play, removes system ads, disables some tracking by default, and some other optimisations for EU and Global.
Xiaomi.eu Weekly is also just MIUI China Weekly.
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Should I flash the official rom before I flash a custom rom? Also when I try to flash yung miflash the POCO F3 EEA Global rom here: https://xiaomifirmwareupdater.com/miui/
I ran in some problems, the anti rollback thing. It doesn't flash the global rom. I can boot normally back to my current miui 13 22.5.25 but I cant downgrade or change from UNOFFICIAL to OFFICIAL/GLOBAL rom. Please correct me if there's a mistake understanding because I dont know either if I understand. Thanks
NetteyLegend said:
Should I flash the official rom before I flash a custom rom? Also when I try to flash yung miflash the POCO F3 EEA Global rom here: https://xiaomifirmwareupdater.com/miui/
I ran in some problems, the anti rollback thing. It doesn't flash the global rom. I can boot normally back to my current miui 13 22.5.25 but I cant downgrade or change from UNOFFICIAL to OFFICIAL/GLOBAL rom. Please correct me if there's a mistake understanding because I dont know either if I understand. Thanks
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Also is Stock rom is same as global rom? or the stock rom is the miui itself whether it's official or unofficial? or Stock rom is the rom version out of the box the when the phone is open or used first time?
I want to flash other custom roms too
cyanGalaxy said:
Xiaomi.eu is a Custom ROM and not affiliated with Xiaomi.
Xiaomi.eu is a ROM based on MIUI China with its Xiaomi System-apps (instead of Google System-apps like in EU or Global).
Xiaomi.eu is basically the latest MIUI China, adds Google Play, removes system ads, disables some tracking by default, and some other optimisations for EU and Global.
Xiaomi.eu Weekly is also just MIUI China Weekly.
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My rollback value is 1. Is rollback thing applicable only on miui roms? what about other roms? Are custom rom have anti rollback just like miui. I once brick my device, when i tried to bypass anti rollback in miflash by removing some codes. That time idk what is the purpose of that until now.
NetteyLegend said:
My rollback value is 1. Is rollback thing applicable only on miui roms? what about other roms? Are custom rom have anti rollback just like miui. I once brick my device, when i tried to bypass anti rollback in miflash by removing some codes. That time idk what is the purpose of that until now.
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NetteyLegend said:
My rollback value is 1. Is rollback thing applicable only on miui roms? what about other roms? Are custom rom have anti rollback just like miui. I once brick my device, when i tried to bypass anti rollback in miflash by removing some codes. That time idk what is the purpose of that until now.
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Stock ROM = Original software that your phone shipped with
Good resource on what Anti-Rollback Protection is:
Xiaomi's Anti-Rollback Protection Explained: How to avoid bricking your phone
All Xiaomi smartphones and tablets will have anti-rollback protection enabled. What is it and how do you avoid bricking your device because of it?
www.xda-developers.com
Other phones have ARP too, however Xiaomi has implemented it differently.
I don't fully understand how Xiaomi devices are getting bricked through this... But I try to avoid circumstances where I downgrade... :S
I don't think it's a good idea to remove the Anti-Rollback Protection Code in the MIUI ROMs... Isn't the code there to protect you?
I'm not sure :/
cyanGalaxy said:
Stock ROM = Original software that your phone shipped with
Good resource on what Anti-Rollback Protection is:
Xiaomi's Anti-Rollback Protection Explained: How to avoid bricking your phone
All Xiaomi smartphones and tablets will have anti-rollback protection enabled. What is it and how do you avoid bricking your device because of it?
www.xda-developers.com
Other phones have ARP too, however Xiaomi has implemented it differently.
I don't fully understand how Xiaomi devices are getting bricked through this... But I try to avoid circumstances where I downgrade... :S
I don't think it's a good idea to remove the Anti-Rollback Protection Code in the MIUI ROMs... Isn't the code there to protect you?
I'm not sure :/
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I experience it the hard way, but now its ok. M either I dont know how i manage to boot it back to miui even I remove the code and brick my device. Also I check my Anti rollback protection value and fastboot command prompt says =1. Do i need fastboot miui rom that has the same anti rollback value?
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cyanGalaxy said:
Stock ROM = Original software that your phone shipped with
Good resource on what Anti-Rollback Protection is:
Xiaomi's Anti-Rollback Protection Explained: How to avoid bricking your phone
All Xiaomi smartphones and tablets will have anti-rollback protection enabled. What is it and how do you avoid bricking your device because of it?
www.xda-developers.com
Other phones have ARP too, however Xiaomi has implemented it differently.
I don't fully understand how Xiaomi devices are getting bricked through this... But I try to avoid circumstances where I downgrade... :S
I don't think it's a good idea to remove the Anti-Rollback Protection Code in the MIUI ROMs... Isn't the code there to protect you?
I'm not sure :/
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also how do I know my stock rom? I cant remember it.
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If xiaomi introduced roll-back protection on the latest miui 10 beta's, is there any way to go back to miui 9 now?
thanks
XDRdaniel said:
If xiaomi introduced roll-back protection on the latest miui 10 beta's, is there any way to go back to miui 9 now?
thanks
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There's no anti-rollback on MIX2.
rr111 said:
There's no anti-rollback on MIX2.
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Is that still the case? I have a mix 2 with MIUI Global 10.0 stable 10.0.2 .0. Does it still not have anti rollback protection? Would I be safe to unlock the bootloader and install any custom ROM?
seti007 said:
Is that still the case? I have a mix 2 with MIUI Global 10.0 stable 10.0.2 .0. Does it still not have anti rollback protection? Would I be safe to unlock the bootloader and install any custom ROM?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix-2/how-to/official-miui-10-public-global-beta-8-6-t3810356
There's info on it in this thread of mine, and you can always unlock and flash custom ROMs. Just make sure that when you go back to MIUI that you flash MIUI via fastboot or MiFlash and not TWRP. Also use MiFlash to switch between MIUI beta and stable and when downgrading MIUI. But there is no problem with custom ROMs.
rr111 said:
There's no anti-rollback on MIX2.
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rr111 said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix-2/how-to/official-miui-10-public-global-beta-8-6-t3810356
There's info on it in this thread of mine, and you can always unlock and flash custom ROMs. Just make sure that when you go back to MIUI that you flash MIUI via fastboot or MiFlash and not TWRP. Also use MiFlash to switch between MIUI beta and stable and when downgrading MIUI. But there is no problem with custom ROMs.
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Thank you so much for the response. Your thread looks like it is jam-packed with some really useful information. I'm certainly going to read through it. In any case, in a nutshell does this mean that my phone currently does not have the anti roll back protection on it?
seti007 said:
Thank you so much for the response. Your thread looks like it is jam-packed with some really useful information. I'm certainly going to read through it. In any case, in a nutshell does this mean that my phone currently does not have the anti roll back protection on it?
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It has, but you can unlock and install custom ROMs. But if you go back to official MIUI, flash it via MiFlash or fastboot.
rr111 said:
It has, but you can unlock and install custom ROMs. But if you go back to official MIUI, flash it via MiFlash or fastboot.
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Hi,
another (maybe noob) question: MIUI Beta versions has the anti-roll back system too? or it's safe to flash any version
thanks in advance
hi i am on currently miui 8.11.22 tried to flash Los but getting error : 7.
is it safe to downgrade to miui 8.4.19 via fastboot?
Hello everyone,
I have got a mountain of questions that arised from reading the forum and a lot of different topics.
I'll have numbers on them, so if you can/want to only answer a few of them you can refer to the number.
1. I've read about this ARB quite a lot, what's the deal with that if I want to go to a custom rom?
2. I understood that it matters where to buy the device in terms of an unlocked bootloader (TradingShenzen seems like a good place to start). But if I can't get my hands on a phone with unlocked bootloader, can I unlock it myself?
3. I'd like to go with the xiaomi.eu rom, any advice on how to get there? What I mean is, should I choose a CN model or is a Global model better, does it matter? What steps to take regarding TWRP and avoiding ARB, etc.
4. What does GSI stand for? I haven't found any thread explaining what that means, and I'm quite new to xiaomi devices (would be my first one).
5. I've also seen that there are quite a few different variants of this device, do the roms for it just work on all of them or do I need to check if the model is supported? (That seems to be a bit different to other phone vendors)
That's it for now, please don't kill me if some of the things have been answered before, I haven't found an answer to the questions so far (the infos that I got so far were insufficient)
Cheers,
Zacki
1 Google introduced ARB, a safeguard to not create an older version of the system from the currently released. If you install the official older version of the system for a new one, you will wall your phone.
Does not apply to Custom ROM
2 You can unblock the bootloader yourself on the official xiaomi website. It takes about 300 hours
3 unlock the bootloader, install recovery, install xiaomi.eu. Global rom is more stable, but xiaomi.eu has more personalization options. Recently, xiaomi.eu does not cause problems on Mi Max3, but it causes problems on other models.
4 GSI https://source.android.com/setup/build/gsi
5 Mi Max3 Global 4gb RAM 64gb internal memory,
Mi Max China 6gb RAM 128gb internal memory
You can install the Global ROM on the china version if you have unlocked the boootloader, and remember about the ARB. Otherwise, you will wall your phone
The Global version is popular.
Bartos81 said:
1 Google introduced ARB, a safeguard to not create an older version of the system from the currently released. If you install the official older version of the system for a new one, you will wall your phone.
Does not apply to Custom ROM
2 You can unblock the bootloader yourself on the official xiaomi website. It takes about 300 hours
3 unlock the bootloader, install recovery, install xiaomi.eu. Global rom is more stable, but xiaomi.eu has more personalization options. Recently, xiaomi.eu does not cause problems on Mi Max3, but it causes problems on other models.
4 GSI https://source.android.com/setup/build/gsi
5 Mi Max3 Global 4gb RAM 64gb internal memory,
Mi Max China 6gb RAM 128gb internal memory
You can install the Global ROM on the china version if you have unlocked the boootloader, and remember about the ARB. Otherwise, you will wall your phone
The Global version is popular.
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Thanks for your reply.
@1. Interesting to see what Google is up to with things like this...why would they want this?
@2. Thanks, but whoa that's quite some time...and I guess I can only trigger the 300h AFTER I bought the phone, right? (Why so many hours actually...?)
@3. I've read about the changes they made to the rom and I like that. But what do you mean with being "less stable" than the global rom? In what way? I'd like to use that as my daily driver if I get it (not the weekly builds of course).
@4. Will have a look, thanks :good:
@5. I was actually looking at the 6GB/128GB version of the phone, if I can convince my wife to allow me to spend ~260€ on a phone (I'm currently a student ).
In this case, I'd already have an unlocked bootloader and if I want to install the rom from xiaomi.eu, there should be no problem, right? Also regarding ARB, this should be fine, right?
And in what ways are the CN and the Global versions different other than the rom? Are there differences for the supported bands or radios? I live in Austria, can I use the CN model here without any downside?
Edit: I'm having a look at this particular model, it would be available with CN firmware or with Global firmware. Would that still account as CN model in this case?
TradingShenzhen - Mi Max 3 - 6gb-ram-128gb-rom-snapdragon-636
Cheers
Google thinks people should use the latest system because it provides better security.
Xiaomi introduced a long wait time to unlock the bootloader, because dishonest sellers offered CN versions outside of China and India by installing the Global system on it. The CN version is only for China and India.
Xiaomi.eu provides its system every week. Contains various patches and additions. Sometimes something does not work, payments, BT paired in the car, notifications etc. In my phone, the last two versions do not work Gmail notifications. In today's version, people write that OK Google is not working.
If you unlock the bootloader, you can install xiaomi.eu. The ARB will be kept at the level of the official system you had.
The CN system contains only Chinese and English. It does not offer Google Play, it also contains full Chinese software.
Version 6/128 is only a CN model. If the seller offers with the Global system, it means that he has unlocked the bootloader and installed the Global system. You naturally lose the Xiaomi warranty.
Bartos81 said:
Google thinks people should use the latest system because it provides better security.
Xiaomi introduced a long wait time to unlock the bootloader, because dishonest sellers offered CN versions outside of China and India by installing the Global system on it. The CN version is only for China and India.
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Ok got that, seems like people are trying everything to make a few bucks extra... Then it would have to be so (waiting).
Bartos81 said:
Xiaomi.eu provides its system every week. Contains various patches and additions. Sometimes something does not work, payments, BT paired in the car, notifications etc. In my phone, the last two versions do not work Gmail notifications. In today's version, people write that OK Google is not working.
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Ok that's not such a big issue, as I said. I'd stay on the "stable" builds, not the weekly ones.
Bartos81 said:
If you unlock the bootloader, you can install xiaomi.eu. The ARB will be kept at the level of the official system you had.
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So the xiaomi.eu roms don't have any of that ARB stuff, good to know. Could I technically install an older version of that custom rom without triggering the ARB or is that not possible? Just so I understand that.
And how is that with other custom roms? I've read in some threads that you have to make sure you have the correct ARB if you want to flash that particular rom, why that?
Bartos81 said:
The CN system contains only Chinese and English. It does not offer Google Play, it also contains full Chinese software.
Version 6/128 is only a CN model. If the seller offers with the Global system, it means that he has unlocked the bootloader and installed the Global system. You naturally lose the Xiaomi warranty.
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I'm not worried about the warranty but more about the specifics of the device. Is the CN model different in any way that it may not work properly with the providers in europe? Or things like that?
And sadly that vendor does not seem to have that version in stock at the moment, so I was thinking of getting the regular CN version of the device, that's why I'm asking
As for xiaomi.eu it does not contain ARB, but there are exceptions. If the phone gets an update to android 9 - xiaomi.eu must use the full original xiaomi firmware from ARB. The next versions on the same adroid no longer have files responsible for ARB.
Current level of ARB = 4 from Oreo to Pie. What you can not do:
to install MIUI9,
to install Miui Global on a CN version phone with a locked bootloader
block in the bootloader if you have Miui Global on your CN
install Miui China on a Global phone and block the bootloader.
Custom GSI roms do not have an ARB, you can install anything.
Mi Max 3 in the CN version in addition to the system and memory does not differ from the specification from Global. Will work in Austria.
Bartos81 said:
As for xiaomi.eu it does not contain ARB, but there are exceptions. If the phone gets an update to android 9 - xiaomi.eu must use the full original xiaomi firmware from ARB. The next versions on the same adroid no longer have files responsible for ARB.
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So if I get the phone with Android 8.1 and I want to get MIUI 10 (Android 9) I need to update with the official rom and then flash the xiaomi.eu rom?
And while we are at that, if I buy the CN variant, do I have to upgrade to PIE with the CN official rom or can I also do this with the Global rom to get ARB to 4?
And what't the deal with the developer versions of the original roms? I've read something about them but would that help me in any way?
Found that website in another thread: Link
Bartos81 said:
Current level of ARB = 4 from Oreo to Pie. What you can not do:
to install MIUI9,
to install Miui Global on a CN version phone with a locked bootloader
block in the bootloader if you have Miui Global on your CN
install Miui China on a Global phone and block the bootloader.
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Ok but once the bootloader is open, why relock it anyway?^^ And I've read that on the xiaomi.eu roms you can not accidentaly relock the bootloader.
Bartos81 said:
Custom GSI roms do not have an ARB, you can install anything.
Mi Max 3 in the CN version in addition to the system and memory does not differ from the specification from Global. Will work in Austria.
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Working in Austria sounds good, but what exactly do you mean with "in addition to system and memory". The system and memory are different in the two versions and the rest is the same? Is there anything I should be aware of while using the phone?
Oh and by the way, thank you for answering all my questions
So if I get the phone with Android 8.1 and I want to get MIUI 10 (Android 9) I need to update with the official rom and then flash the xiaomi.eu rom?
And while we are at that, if I buy the CN variant, do I have to upgrade to PIE with the CN official rom or can I also do this with the Global rom to get ARB to 4?
And what't the deal with the developer versions of the original roms? I've read something about them but would that help me in any way?
Found that website in another thread: Link
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it's not like that. You do not need to update the system. Xiaomi.eu is built with miui china developer extended to additional language translations, optimizations of softu for Europeans and a few additions that occur only in the Chinese version of the miui.
The whole system, firmware and kernel is miui china. If you install xiaomi.eu then you install the entire system, with the firmware and kernel. They are suitable for the android version.
You can have miui global Oreo and install xiaomi.eu Pie. Everything will be updated.
Miui Global is available in Stable and Dev versions. Dev-Beta is a development version released every week, contains the latest security, system fixes and errors detected in the Stable version, as well as new additions that are tested and do not always have to work correctly (like the development version of xiaomi.eu). As developers will correct detected errors, the stable version is created.
I just installed myself Global dev. I like it more than xiaomi.eu. Everything works so far. I usually use Global dev, and xiaomi.eu tests once in a while.
Ok but once the bootloader is open, why relock it anyway?^^ And I've read that on the xiaomi.eu roms you can not accidentaly relock the bootloader.
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Some block the bootloader from ignorance or inadvertently.
When installing a new ROM by MiFlash, you have the following options:
install and block the bootloader (by default selected)
clean everything and install
save data and install
Working in Austria sounds good, but what exactly do you mean with "in addition to system and memory". The system and memory are different in the two versions and the rest is the same? Is there anything I should be aware of while using the phone?
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the parameters of the telephone accessories and the frequency ranges of the network are the same. The difference is 6gb RAM, 128gb Internal memory and MIUI china.
Bartos81 said:
it's not like that. You do not need to update the system. Xiaomi.eu is built with miui china developer extended to additional language translations, optimizations of softu for Europeans and a few additions that occur only in the Chinese version of the miui.
The whole system, firmware and kernel is miui china. If you install xiaomi.eu then you install the entire system, with the firmware and kernel. They are suitable for the android version.
You can have miui global Oreo and install xiaomi.eu Pie. Everything will be updated.
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Ok sounds good, so if I want to go for the xiaomi.eu rom, I can just go ahead an flash that thing and I'm good, that's what I understood. Is that correct?
Bartos81 said:
Miui Global is available in Stable and Dev versions. Dev-Beta is a development version released every week, contains the latest security, system fixes and errors detected in the Stable version, as well as new additions that are tested and do not always have to work correctly (like the development version of xiaomi.eu). As developers will correct detected errors, the stable version is created.
I just installed myself Global dev. I like it more than xiaomi.eu. Everything works so far. I usually use Global dev, and xiaomi.eu tests once in a while..
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Interesting, because I've read somewhere that the normal and the dev version are more or less the same, just that you have to use the dev version in certain situations to "unbrick" because of something with the bootloader (but I don't actually remember the details).
Bartos81 said:
Some block the bootloader from ignorance or inadvertently.
When installing a new ROM by MiFlash, you have the following options:
install and block the bootloader (by default selected)
clean everything and install
save data and install
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I've also read about that tool, is it required to flash roms or can I do that via TWRP? And why would such an option be selected by default...? I've already seen someone brick his device because of that
Bartos81 said:
the parameters of the telephone accessories and the frequency ranges of the network are the same. The difference is 6gb RAM, 128gb Internal memory and MIUI china.
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Ok got that, and the MIUI china doesn't really matter once I'm on the xiaomi.eu rom.
Good, I think I might actually see that I can get the cash together and order the phone Getting excited now.
Any resources I should read before I might do something stupid?
If you have an unlocked bootloader then you install twrp and flash xiaomi.eu
Interesting, because I've read somewhere that the normal and the dev version are more or less the same, just that you have to use the dev version in certain situations to "unbrick" because of something with the bootloader (but I don't actually remember the details).
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Using dev to unlock the bootloader affected old phones. Currently, it does not matter. Rom useful as well as Stable.
I've also read about that tool, is it required to flash roms or can I do that via TWRP? And why would such an option be selected by default...? I've already seen someone brick his device because of that
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Miflash is used to install only official miui Rom, you use the rom .Tgz package
It installs through Miflash with the cleaning option. It does not leave garbage in the old system.
Ok got that, and the MIUI china doesn't really matter once I'm on the xiaomi.eu rom.
Good, I think I might actually see that I can get the cash together and order the phone Getting excited now.
Any resources I should read before I might do something stupid?
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If you have xiaomi.eu then china rom does not matter.
You can look for a seller who offers a phone with downloaded xiaomi.eu or miui global - to choose from
in the past, the sellers offered the china version.
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If you have an unlocked bootloader then you install twrp and flash xiaomi.eu
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So last question for now (I hope ), if I decide to get the EU version instead, can I still unlock the bootloader or is that only possible on the CN versions?
you can in any xiaomi
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You can unblock the bootloader yourself on the official xiaomi website. It takes about 300 hours
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I've just read in another thread that it is 720 hours that's full 30 days... I hope it's more the 300 hours you said but I fear I might have to wait a full month for that...
Can anyone confirm this number of hours?
Cheers
Usually it is 720 hours, but I checked it every now and then, after 4 days, this time has decreased by half.
It's 100% not decreased or changed it 720 hours. Unless you had a mi account before an unlocked a phone
techdeisel said:
It's 100% not decreased or changed it 720 hours. Unless you had a mi account before an unlocked a phone
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That is an interesting note. I created an account a few days ago, when I ordered the phone. Does this already count as "having an account before trying to unlock"?
Hello. I have been using Xiaomi.eu 20.6.18 based on MIUI 12.1
In a few days I think that they will release MIUI 12.0 based stable release but my phone has ARP so I think that downgrading will brick it, don't it?
Anyway, this weekly ROM is working well at the moment but I would like to use the stable version someday. I have some doubts so I will put numbers in them:
1. Can I go back to MIUI 12.0 based ROM while using MIUI 12.1 based ROM or not? without triggering anti-rollback
2. Can I switch to Pixel Experience (for example) which is using Android 10? It is a newer version of Android but I don't know how MIUI ARP handles it
3. If the point 2 answer is 'yes', I suppose that ARP is gone (at least Xiaomi's one) so, can I install Xiaomi.eu MIUI 12.0 from Pixel Experience? (I will be downgrading I know)
Thanks all of you for your future answers, and sorry for the number of questions. Any doubt about my explanation or something just ask
Arb only matters if u go back to very old version of miui ie, 9 and some version of miui 10....it doesn't matter with custom ROMs also...u can also check ur current arb status
No arb was implemented with miui 9.5.19 (global stable), so u can go till this version without bricking ur phone.
As u r on latest beta u have an index value of 4.
Sidgup1998 said:
No arb was implemented with miui 9.5.19 (global stable), so u can go till this version without bricking ur phone.
As u r on latest beta u have an index value of 4.
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I'm currently on stable miui 11.0.3.0
I want to try xiaomi.eu miui 12 20.6.18 (latest build).But if I didn't like it,then can i return to stable miui 11 without bricking my device?
As i understand from previous comments,I won't brick my device as long as i'm returning to version 9.5.19 or after that.
But still i would want to confirm this.Please answer this question.
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I'm currently on stable miui 11.0.3.0
I want to try xiaomi.eu miui 12 20.6.18 (latest build).But if I didn't like it,then can i return to stable miui 11 without bricking my device?
As i understand from previous comments,I won't brick my device as long as i'm returning to version 9.5.19 or after that.
But still i would want to confirm this.Please answer this question.
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Anyone?Please.
umair42 said:
I'm currently on stable miui 11.0.3.0
I want to try xiaomi.eu miui 12 20.6.18 (latest build).But if I didn't like it,then can i return to stable miui 11 without bricking my device?
As i understand from previous comments,I won't brick my device as long as i'm returning to version 9.5.19 or after that.
But still i would want to confirm this.Please answer this question.
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Yes u can go easily.
I will recommend to go with fast boot method if u plan returning to miui 11
(I've used miui 12 20.6.18 eu build and successfully returned to miui 11 without bricking)
Sidgup1998 said:
Yes u can go easily.
I will recommend to go with fast boot method if u plan returning to miui 11
(I've used miui 12 20.6.18 eu build and successfully returned to miui 11 without bricking)
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Thanks for the reply.Can I use recovery method to return to miui 11?
And how was miui 12 20.6.18?Was it better than miui 11?
umair42 said:
Thanks for the reply.Can I use recovery method to return to miui 11?
And how was miui 12 20.6.18?Was it better than miui 11?
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Yes u can use the recovery method for returning back to miui 11.
Why i was recommending the fast boot method?
Bcoz I've seen if u flash global miui after flashing china based/eu roms, u cannot change ur region to other country other than china. Obviously this can be fixed by editing build.prop or flash region fix but u will have to root in the 1st case.
But u can try recovery method brother.
Yes miui 12 is better than 11 bcoz of new privacy features, ios style control center, no miui optimization api.
Sidgup1998 said:
Yes u can use the recovery method for returning back to miui 11.
Why i was recommending the fast boot method?
Bcoz I've seen if u flash global miui after flashing china based/eu roms, u cannot change ur region to other country other than china. Obviously this can be fixed by editing build.prop or flash region fix but u will have to root in the 1st case.
But u can try recovery method brother.
Yes miui 12 is better than 11 bcoz of new privacy features, ios style control center, no miui optimization api.
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Thanks i always root my phone so no problem for me.
How to go from xiaomi eu to the original rom poco f3 ? Can you do it by twrp?
Nandowiko said:
How to go from xiaomi eu to the original rom poco f3 ? Can you do it by twrp?
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I actually hope someone answers this question because this phone is very different than any other phone I have and it's hard figuring out the best way to do things on it.
Nandowiko said:
How to go from xiaomi eu to the original rom poco f3 ? Can you do it by twrp?
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The best way is to flash the stock with miflash. (Remember to select the checkbox at the bottom right on clean-all, do not flash with clean and lock otherwise lock the bootloader. To some he sent the phone in brick just this forgetfulness) I strongly advise against using twrp to flash the stock!
RollDload said:
The best way is to flash the stock with miflash. (Remember to select the checkbox at the bottom right on clean-all, do not flash with clean and lock otherwise lock the bootloader. To some he sent the phone in brick just this forgetfulness) I strongly advise against using twrp to flash the stock!
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I thought most people or everyone really liked Xiaomi EU over stock rom. I thought EU was a cleaned up verison of stock rom basically. Does it have Google play services?
Techguy777 said:
I thought most people or everyone really liked Xiaomi EU over stock rom. I thought EU was a cleaned up verison of stock rom basically. Does it have Google play services?
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I am using xiaomi.eu at the moment.
So, xiaomi.eu is a custom rom that takes Chinese stock as a basis and adapts it to global use, like adding Google services, translations for many languages and removing all Chinese apps. I prefer it to the global stock because being based on the chinese stock it has the fastest updates and functions that xiaomi puts only in the chinese rom. Also because the global roms is developed by poco So not directly from xiaomi and it is not said that they include all the features that xiaomi includes on the Chinese stock.
RollDload said:
I am using xiaomi.eu at the moment.
So, xiaomi.eu is a custom rom that takes Chinese stock as a basis and adapts it to global use, like adding Google services, translations for many languages and removing all Chinese apps. I prefer it to the global stock because being based on the chinese stock it has the fastest updates and functions that xiaomi puts only in the chinese rom. Also because the global roms is developed by poco So not directly from xiaomi and it is not said that they include all the features that xiaomi includes on the Chinese stock.
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Right now I'm crdroid 7.11 android 11 with twrp installed. When looking at the rom files for EU I've noticed that they have some versions that look like this xiaomi.eu_multi_HMK40_POCOF3_21.10.27_v12-12-fastboot.zip and than ones that look like this
xiaomi.eu_multi_HMK40_POCOF3_V12.5.14.0.RKHCNXM_v12-11.zip
What's the difference? And if I wanted to flash EU with Twrp from crdroid could I? Could I also just flash back to crdroid if I wanted to also? Thanks
Techguy777 said:
Right now I'm crdroid 7.11 android 11 with twrp installed. When looking at the rom files for EU I've noticed that they have some versions that look like this xiaomi.eu_multi_HMK40_POCOF3_21.10.27_v12-12-fastboot.zip and than ones that look like this
xiaomi.eu_multi_HMK40_POCOF3_V12.5.14.0.RKHCNXM_v12-11.zip
What's the difference? And if I wanted to flash EU with Twrp from crdroid could I? Could I also just flash back to crdroid if I wanted to also? Thanks
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The first is Android 12 weekly beta and can only be flashed via fastboot with the appropriate file that is inside the package.
The high is stable android 11 and can only be flashed via twrp.
I don't know if it works if the flashi from crdroid, I have not tried, it might or might not, at most if it doesn't work you install the stock with miflash and the flashi from there ...
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The first is Android 12 weekly beta and can only be flashed via fastboot with the appropriate file that is inside the package.
The high is stable android 11 and can only be flashed via twrp.
I don't know if it works if the flashi from crdroid, I have not tried, it might or might not, at most if it doesn't work you install the stock with miflash and the flashi from there ...
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Thank you, you have been much help I've been reading through threads and telegram for days now looking for the answers but couldn't find them. This phone is so popular things become cluttered and hard to find. I don't think I have ever seen a phone with as much development and that's surprising when I have a Nexus 6.
Nandowiko said:
How to go from xiaomi eu to the original rom poco f3 ? Can you do it by twrp?
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YES
But bootloader will remain unlocked.
If you want it locked, like virgin phone, you must use a called fastboot rom via MIFLASH tool.
Select the right rom version at XIAOMI ROm download site.
Flash it first without locking, boot your phone (you don't have to configure it, even you shouldn't because of incoming reset), and if all is good, flash it once again with locking bootloader.
Hello All
I am using Mi11X Indian Variant with Indian Miui ROM - Now I want to install Miui Indonesia Rom with the Same Version
Before flashing have some doubt hope will get the answer here
1) Which Way have to choose for Flash - Miflash Software or Direct download and using Recovery Method - also heard even without bootloader unlock can flash ROM - Not sure it is working or not specially Mi11X
2) I read it but didn't find proper information regarding Indonesia Rom - Is there any Network Band issue could face in India, Performance, Camera
3) Which is the Correct way of Flash
4) Should Flash Region-specific Rom or Global Rom would be better
I must surely get an answer at least from someone
Hello All,
Please Respond to that
My Aim to Install Indonesia Rom - Want to Replace Google Dialer as an official Way
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Hello All
I am using Mi11X Indian Variant with Indian Miui ROM - Now I want to install Miui Indonesia Rom with the Same Version
Before flashing have some doubt hope will get the answer here
1) Which Way have to choose for Flash - Miflash Software or Direct download and using Recovery Method - also heard even without bootloader unlock can flash ROM - Not sure it is working or not specially Mi11X
2) I read it but didn't find proper information regarding Indonesia Rom - Is there any Network Band issue could face in India, Performance, Camera
3) Which is the Correct way of Flash
4) Should Flash Region-specific Rom or Global Rom would be better
I must surely get an answer at least from someone
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You first need to read this great guide by RollDload https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/how-to-flash-a-stock-rom-alioth.4355797/ to understand how to flash stock MIUI in the right way.
I can't answere about device compatibilty between indian and Indonesian
I hope this will help you
Thank you bonerserk for the reference link
First of all I'm not a pro, so do it with your own risk. But, I knew few things since I've changed my Rom back and forth using ID ROM, EU, CN, and many others Custom Rom.
In response of ur questions:
1 & 3. I recommend using Mi Flash Tool. Download the tool, and the required ROM (the FASTBOOT one, since you want to use the ID ROM, there's only 12.5.6 version for the FASTBOOT Rom) using the thread link provided by @bonerserk follow the instructions CAREFULLY.
2. Didn't know the answer.
4. It depends on ur needs. If you just want to remove the Chinese Bloatware, then the Global Rom is suitable since it has less Chinese bloatware.
Thanks, @the.ogeph for the response - After reading the Flashing method come to know Xiaomi implement Anti Rollback features in Some Model - also in Mi11X I didn't get a three-dot option (Additional Features) on Settings->About Phone - Where Some Model has this option - Now I am confused is Mi11X has implemented this features or not? If I Try and stuck due to Anti Rollback then there is no solution available as of now.
Which Device do you have? I didn't find any Mi11X owner who tried this
That's why I recommend you to use Miflash tool. You could bypass the ARB Protection by editing the (.bat) file line command. Just google it or watch tutorial on Yt.
Please follow the instruction really carefully. I've soft bricked my phone once because I skipped 1 step.
the.ogeph said:
First of all I'm not a pro, so do it with your own risk. But, I knew few things since I've changed my Rom back and forth using ID ROM, EU, CN, and many others Custom Rom.
In response of ur questions:
1 & 3. I recommend using Mi Flash Tool. Download the tool, and the required ROM (the FASTBOOT one, since you want to use the ID ROM, there's only 12.5.6 version for the FASTBOOT Rom) using the thread link provided by @bonerserk follow the instructions CAREFULLY.
2. Didn't know the answer.
4. It depends on ur needs. If you just want to remove the Chinese Bloatware, then the Global Rom is suitable since it has less Chinese bloatware.
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Which official ROM is better in terms of Battery backup in your opinion? international, ID, CN or EU Rom?
I am currently using International by default.
RSA10 said:
Which official ROM is better in terms of Battery backup in your opinion? international, ID, CN or EU Rom?
I am currently using International by default.
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Without using Custom Kernel and any other tweek, EU is the best for Battery Life. Try using EU MIUI 13 A12, its quite good for daily use.
the.ogeph said:
Without using Custom Kernel and any other tweek, EU is the best for Battery Life. Try using EU MIUI 13 A12, its quite good for daily use.
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EU official one? Or Xiaomi.eu rom (Modified Chinese)?
RSA10 said:
EU official one? Or Xiaomi.eu rom (Modified Chinese)?
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EU the xiaomi.eu Rom.
Not the Stock EEA ROM.
the.ogeph said:
That's why I recommend you to use Miflash tool. You could bypass the ARB Protection by editing the (.bat) file line command. Just google it or watch tutorial on Yt.
Please follow the instruction really carefully. I've soft bricked my phone once because I skipped 1 step.
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Have you unlocked Bootloader - Because nowadays lots of tutorials show change ROM with Locked Bootloader - EU Rom has Google dialer or Stock MIUI Dialer?
sunnymodh said:
Have you unlocked Bootloader - Because nowadays lots of tutorials show change ROM with Locked Bootloader - EU Rom has Google dialer or Stock MIUI Dialer?
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Yes I've unlocked my phone, probably a week after I bought my F3 phone.
Probably I was wrong, but I don't believe you can change Rom (Stock or Custom) without unlocking ur phone.
EU has MIUI Dialer.
the.ogeph said:
Yes I've unlocked my phone, probably a week after I bought my F3 phone.
Probably I was wrong, but I don't believe you can change Rom (Stock or Custom) without unlocking ur phone.
EU has MIUI Dialer.
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Yes - Let me Correct - You can Change ROM without Unlocking bootloader but only MIUI Stock no Any Custom
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Yes - Let me Correct - You can Change ROM without Unlocking bootloader but only MIUI Stock no Any Custom
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No, please do not flash (even Stock Rom with different region) with Miflash tool without unlocking ur Bootloader. I really don't think u can do that.
Yes - Definitely will not try with Locked Bootloader - Once unlocked then will try - But one more thing - After Unlock which Version I Should try of EU Rom - Currently I am using Global MIUI 12.5.7 Version
Unlocked bootloader Receive OTA ? or have to manually Push?
Can I flash EU ROM with Locked Bootloader using Miflash Official Tool? because I am waiting for 10+ days to unlock the bootloader response from Xiaomi
Can anyone confirm please
sunnymodh said:
Can I flash EU ROM with Locked Bootloader using Miflash Official Tool? because I am waiting for 10+ days to unlock the bootloader response from Xiaomi
Can anyone confirm please
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xiaomi.EU rom is a custom rom based on miui, so you need to unlock bootloader to install it and it didnt use miflash official tool to flash
But I have watched lots of videos where people change Xiaomi ROM with the different regions such as Global to EU, Indonesia, China with the locked bootloaders - for Only Mi11X not able to find any Source