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I would suggest that the Desire forum be combined with the Nexus One and called Bravo. They are the same device with a couple small variations. Other devices (Universal comes to mind) had hardware variants but were not broken out into 2 sub forums.
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It's a different phone though, it has Sense UI and more Ram.
It's like the G1 and HTC Magic being the same apart from the Magic having no keyboard... they still have different forums.

Sense UI is a software front end (and ALL variants have different software). And the Universal also has different versions, some with double the RAM of others. It is the same device, same platform, same hardware. Since you can install the Nexus One ROM on the Desire with NO porting, it's the same device. They also have identical hardware specs with the exception of a little more RAM to accommodate Sense and the optical joystick.
The Magic and G1 were completely different in the sense that one had a keyboard and one did not. If the Desire had a physical keyboard, I'd agree with you.
This will do nothing but segment development and resources.

But it is different hardware, considering the 64mb more ram and the missing second mic and the hard buttons instead of soft touch buttons and the optical mouse.
And the porting, i think there was some kind of changes, or why else is there already alpha version 7 when not cause of the bugs?
Is this enough different hardware to give it its own forum?
Also i´m quite sure, that rooting might be kind of harder than on the nexus, or does anybody know something about it yet?

so should the developer versions of Google phones get their own forum? HTC has slightly changed devices throughout it's history but we've never given them their own subforum.
e.g.
The HTC Kaiser has a front facing camera. AT&T's does not. Did the Tilt get it's own forum?
The original Universal had 64MB of RAM. The updated T-Mobile version has 128. Did it get it's own forum?
The HTC 620, 621, and 622 had differences, one didn't have WiFi, the others did.
The HTC Wizard is different enough between some versions that if you flash a ROM from one on to the other, it will kill it.
Some devices have Sense, some do not. Should they get their own forums? And what happens if the ones that didn't suddenly get SenseUI in an update. Do they lose their own forums?
Look, I don't own XDA and those that do can certainly do what they want. But I've gone through the FCC documents and looked at the ROMimages between the two. They are the same device with differences exactly like the examples I used above (and there are many more). Segmenting the two only hampers development efforts.
-Mc

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The HTC 620, 621, and 622 had differences, one didn't have WiFi, the others did.
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Not only that, but the S640. Telus only device, different chasis then those, CDMA, but some people were saying it should be lumped in with the other 6XX line.

I don't know about you but the HTC Sapphire Forums is littered between 32A and 32B ROMs.

Taknarosh said:
I don't know about you but the HTC Sapphire Forums is littered between 32A and 32B ROMs.
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Agreed... N1/Desire should be kept seperate!
Especially since they probaly do not share hboots and radios... So keeping the forums seperate minimizes risks of people flashing wrong stuff (as was seen on 32A/B quite often)

Epedemic said:
Agreed... N1/Desire should be kept seperate!
Especially since they probaly do not share hboots and radios... So keeping the forums seperate minimizes risks of people flashing wrong stuff (as was seen on 32A/B quite often)
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They DO share hboots and radios. They are the same phone. That's my point. Next, we'll start new sub forums for different case colors or carriers or logos or...

If they share radio/hboot they can flash the same ROMs without porting? If that is so, they should have the same section in my opinion.

The partition layouts are different on the devices. So no...you cant just take a rom from one and have it work straight away.
People have managed to get Desire Roms running on the n1, but they had to move system data to the data partition to do so.
The Desire is also unlikley to be rootable via unlocking the bootloader. If we put both devices in one section it would just confuse the nooblets.

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If we put both devices in one section it would just confuse the nooblets.
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Man if we used THAT as a compass around here, we'd be better off closing the site entirely. You can confuse them no matter what you do. Again, look at the Universal threads. Different RAM sizes but both versions lived happily ever after in the same forum. This site was NEVER intended for newbs. It shouldn't. If it did, most of us would leave.
How much do you guys wanna bet that many ROM's will be made in Nexus1 and Desire flavors. How many LITE ROMS have you seen on XDA? A lite ROM will work on either device without ANY porting or special mods. Why not have them in the same thread/forum?

I think if their roms are cross compatible, why not have the development sections mergered? They could have separate sections but once some1 clicks on development for N1 or Desire they are lead to the same page.

yes this could be the best as i see it. there are differences, radio buttons etc,,, there might be other differences for general question etc. but if the two of them have the same structure for roms then maedhros suggested the best, why not having them into one development section!

if any1 can proove for me that they share the exact same spl, radio and partition layout then im on it! as it could be the last extra rams that have been used for the /system partition else i think it is like mixing up da hero and sapphire as they are close, but biggest difference is software based

I agree that If the 2 are proved to be identical in development terms upon the desires release, then the forums could be merged, with perhaps a couple of stickies at the top explaining what you need to do to root the phone before you can use the roms. However this should not be done until this proven conclusively on a released phone.

IF roms that can be used on both devices using the same unlocking techniques become a reality, i will take this suggestion up with administration.
(But that won't be soon)

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Man if we used THAT as a compass around here, we'd be better off closing the site entirely. You can confuse them no matter what you do. Again, look at the Universal threads. Different RAM sizes but both versions lived happily ever after in the same forum. This site was NEVER intended for newbs. It shouldn't. If it did, most of us would leave.
How much do you guys wanna bet that many ROM's will be made in Nexus1 and Desire flavors. How many LITE ROMS have you seen on XDA? A lite ROM will work on either device without ANY porting or special mods. Why not have them in the same thread/forum?
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This is an absolute appalling comment. Condescending and unhelpful. Everyone has to start at some point and a vast silent majority of people visit the site to learn and root... Unless one can prove that you cannot harm one of the devices by using a ROM for the other, the threads should be separated, even if it cost a few duplicates...

globiboulga said:
This is an absolute appalling comment. Condescending and unhelpful. Everyone has to start at some point and a vast silent majority of people visit the site to learn and root... Unless one can prove that you cannot harm one of the devices by using a ROM for the other, the threads should be separated, even if it cost a few duplicates...
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You either took it wrong or are being a troll. XDA is a developers and hackers forum. We are all newbs at some point but this forum isn't designed for the newb. It's designed for the hacker/developer. I'm not ripping on newbs for being newbs. Hell, I'm a newb again as I just got my AT&T Nexus One yesterday - my first Android phone. But I'm reading and searching and won't have a reason to ask a question for quite some time. All of the information is already here on XDA. Newbs are welcome but we expect them to SEARCH and READ before asking a lot of questions. Some do, some don't. But if we dumbed down the forum, it would ruin it. There'd be so much crap to wade through and so many duplicate threads it'd be too time consuming to do so. THAT was my point.
Maybe we should have separate Desire forums for the silver version and a separate forum for the charcoal version. That should help, right? Because newbs who don't read are going to ask over and over if the ROM being discussed will work on their particular color of Desire. And that won't make anything confusing, right? Some ROMS posted in one forum and some posted in the other (just like the Desire vs. Nexus One). People will continually ask if the ROM will work on their device because it was in a different forum.
And FYI, you can harm the device just as easy using the correct ROM on the same device, or by running a simple command, or... If they read everything before they start, they will have no problems. If they don't read, well, we can't hold their hands.
This forum is catered to experienced hackers. We will help newbs through every part of every process, but this is still a forum for experienced hackers. If you don't like that, find a place that spoon feeds or does things for you. And if this place ever turns into a forum that spoon feeds and everyone asks to do things for them, most of us will surely leave. Then who will help them?

the question is why not?
Why is it important to you to keep them in one section? are you thinking about server space utilizing ?
I mean what is the harm of making them in separate sections (what is the harm to you)?

Galaxy Nexus - AT&T

https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=galaxy_nexus_hspa
I know there's GSM support for it. I'm unfamiliar with AOSP devices. Will there be, or is there good developer support for the device when used with AT&T? I'm coming from a SGS 2 SkyRocket.
If you're not using the GSM version on AT&T there's probably no reason for you to be a troll.

Have you seriously not read a thread or news article in the last 24 hours?
That's not an AT&T Galaxy Nexus. Its an unlocked i9250 GSM model. Works on AT&T, T-Mobile, or any GSM carrier in the US/World. Its the same (save for pre-installed Google Wallet) as the European model that's been sold for the last 5+ months.

Seriously?

Google Officially Selling Galaxy Nexus GSM in USA via Play Store ($399)
On the first page of this forum.

I understand that... The phone will work on AT&T. Never said AT&T is selling it. FFS I linked to the Google page for it.
I just seen this today. The question is: is it worth it? If there's not going to be any developers working on it. It's probably not worth it to me. I'd probably just get the SGS 3.

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I understand that... The phone will work on AT&T. Never said AT&T is selling it. FFS I linked to the Google page for it.
I just seen this today. The question is: is it worth it? If there's not going to be any developers working on it. It's probably not worth it to me. I'd probably just get the SGS 3.
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worth it? yes.
development?
is this not the GSM Nexus dev page..????????????????????????
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1339

X10D3 said:
I understand that... The phone will work on AT&T. Never said AT&T is selling it. FFS I linked to the Google page for it.
I just seen this today. The question is: is it worth it? If there's not going to be any developers working on it. It's probably not worth it to me. I'd probably just get the SGS 3.
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Please just leave this thread and go join the other ones. You clearly have not read about the device, because it is the EXACT SAME as the other ones. It won't be a special phone that requires different ROMs or development. The phone has been on sale for over 5 months.

X10D3 said:
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=galaxy_nexus_hspa
Is it worth it? Think any developers will support it? Currently have a SkyRocket.
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Lol lames
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I updated my question to be a bit more clear.
"I know there's GSM support for it. I'm unfamiliar with AOSP devices. Will there be, or is there good developer support for the device when used with AT&T? I'm coming from a SGS 2 SkyRocket."
The damn trolls are deep in this forum.

X10D3 said:
I updated my question to be a bit more clear.
"I know there's GSM support for it. I'm unfamiliar with AOSP devices. Will there be, or is there good developer support for the device when used with AT&T? I'm coming from a SGS 2 SkyRocket."
The damn trolls are deep in this forum.
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No, we're not trolls, we're just tired of people that are uninformed creating irrelevant, duplicate threads before searching or even reading the titles of the threads on the first page of the forum.
Obviously this phone has developer support, it's a Nexus. It doesn't matter what freaking SIM card you put in the back of it, its still the same device. GSM device support is GSM device support. Read. Please!

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The damn trolls are deep in this forum.
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So are pointless, redundant threads apparently.
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FFS ppl the OP was just asking a question. Yes the GN sold by Google is supported by AOSP and will have [email protected]!# ton of ROM and development going for a long time

Per your suggestion I've looked through the last 5 pages and there's a couple that's semi similar to mine. The official announcement: which I could try to start a conversation there and it get lost in the general chatter about it, and another question like mine but about the battery. I could hijack his thread. That would be cool? Instead of trolling, which most of the replies have been, you could have said something like "I seen a post earlier that might help out". The replies have been absolute crap. If you're tired of seeing it ignore it.
I'm Never used an AOSP device, or an international device. Before I bought it I thought I would come over kick up a conversation with some people that have a GN and ask some questions. General stuff about development on it. Is there a difference between this one and the international version.
The way you people responded to someone that has never been in this specific device's forum, or messed with any variant of the device before is not right.

rasengan82 said:
FFS ppl the OP was just asking a question. Yes the GN sold by Google is supported by AOSP and will have [email protected]!# ton of ROM and development going for a long time
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Thank you!! I'll talk to you.
Thinking about buying it. Never used or paid much attention to AOSP devices because AT&T doesn't sell them. Are there any catches coming from Non-AOSP devices? I wasn't sure if there's any catches to using the international GSM roms with AT&T. Completely clueless here. I don't necessarily have time to read every post for 10 pages. Looking for a general overview of my questions.

You asked a really obvious question which is why people are responding to you the way they are. The question also doesn't make much sense since it is hard to believe that you this little about this phone. I think you are asking if the Galaxy Nexus works well with AT&T. The answer is yes. It also works well with any GSM network provider. There is good development for this phone, and nothing has to be or will be unique to AT&T.
There's no catches to using this phone with AT&T. Everything works great. Well actually, there are a few catches, I wouldn't get this phone if you were hoping to have:
1. Delayed software updates, or no updates at all
2. Terrible superimposed user interface that is more buggy
3. Lots of bloatware like AT&T Navigator just in case you wanted to pay AT&T for something Google gives for free and does a better job at.
If you are looking for any of those, then yeah, that's the only catch.

Why would I every look into a phone that I can't use? It has nice specs. I can't use it. Close. What's obvious to you isn't so obvious to someone else. Maybe it's all exactly the same as what I'm used to, or maybe there's some stuff you you "just know from experience" that I wouldn't know.

I read your post twice and I have no idea what you were trying to say.

fatttire said:
I read your post twice and I have no idea what you were trying to say.
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Maybe a better question is: "Do the GSM ROMS work correctly on AT&T without any catches? If there is a catch are the developer pretty quick to help fix, or do the developers ignore AT&T"
I know this is not a primary AT&T device so I know the support is going to be back burner. I just want to know how back burner it is.

X10D3 said:
Maybe a better question is: "Do the GSM ROMS work correctly on AT&T without any catches? If there is a catch are the developer pretty quick to help fix, or do the developers ignore AT&T"
I know this is not a primary AT&T device so I know the support is going to be back burner. I just want to know how back burner it is.
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Yes all GSM rooms currently in the GSM development section will work and all future ones too.
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X10D3 said:
Maybe a better question is: "Do the GSM ROMS work correctly on AT&T without any catches? If there is a catch are the developer pretty quick to help fix, or do the developers ignore AT&T"
I know this is not a primary AT&T device so I know the support is going to be back burner. I just want to know how back burner it is.
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This is what I'm saying. You have a very very weak understanding of how this works. Do you really think that there are specific ROMs and tweaks for all of the dozens of carriers people are using this device on? Its an unlocked GSM device. There's no special software needed. You put in your SIM card.
Developers suppor the device. Not the network.

Samsung Galaxy S10 or Oneplus 7t?

which is better?

Really depends on what you're looking for.
For root:. Def 7t unless you buy the unlocked Samsung
For pictures: Samsung for sure but the camera is not too bad on the 7t, but the cam software sucks
7t has 1080p screen while Sammy has 1440p screen (2k) I personally can't tell a difference.
7t has 90hrtz screen. I'm not sure on the Samsung. I have the 7t and turned off 90hrtz and can't tell much of a difference??

What are you using now? Have you unlocked any bootloader's? Are you familiar with Knox? What are your goals on XDA?

For my preference I chose the 7T over the S10. My wife has the S10.
The camera is better on the S10 in low light but in the day time it's about the same. The battery life is a little better on the S10 as well.
As far as the higher resolution screen that's honestly not noticeable. I think the 7t's screen might even be brighter than the S10 but I'll have to test it out again to make sure. I know it's definitely brighter than my coworkers Note 9.
The S10 has expandable memory this obviously doesn't.
For $600 this phone is a beast. We have the better processor, we will get updates a lot faster and we have a bigger screen. I'm happy with my purchase [emoji123][emoji123][emoji123]
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galaxys said:
What are you using now? Have you unlocked any bootloader's? Are you familiar with Knox? What are your goals on XDA?
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I am using an old Samsung J- series phone ( i forgot which one ). And i have no idea what is knox, or how to unlock bootloader.. My goals on XDA is pretty much asking stuff idk.

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I am using an old Samsung J- series phone ( i forgot which one ). And i have no idea what is knox, or how to unlock bootloader.. My goals on XDA is pretty much asking stuff idk.
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Knox is a pita security Samsung created for Enterprise security and it is a huge pain to deal with unless you have root. (But it does work as intended) Samsungs are different to root than regular Android like the 7t.
Bootloader is usually easy to unlock as fastboot OEM unlock bootloader and boom you can install recovery such as TWRP. Just depends on what you're looking to do.
I prefer Samsung personally but dropped them after they locked down the S7 Bootloader so no root for most people to this day.
Hope I at least helped you learn a little bit.

Josh McGrath said:
Knox is a pita security Samsung created for Enterprise security and it is a huge pain to deal with unless you have root. (But it does work as intended) Samsungs are different to root than regular Android like the 7t.
Bootloader is usually easy to unlock as fastboot OEM unlock bootloader and boom you can install recovery such as TWRP. Just depends on what you're looking to do.
I prefer Samsung personally but dropped them after they locked down the S7 Bootloader so no root for most people to this day.
Hope I at least helped you learn a little bit.
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Agree.. there are root methods.. however it makes the phone get really hot.

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Note 10 Snapdragon SM-N970U Root

I am anxiously waiting and hoping all the great developers we have here at XDA-DEVELOPERS site are working on a root procedure for this phone. May the Lord bless you all with a joyous and peaceful Christmas and New Year. Merry Christmas everyone!!!!?
TheGhost

No root for your model.
No Xmas gift for you.
You should have gotten my model. The Taiwan model or the exynos one.

You'll be waiting a long time...
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speedyjay said:
You'll be waiting a long time...
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sometimes i wish i could find a way just to rub it in to ppl that make these sort comments lol..
its not impossible, its very possible.. its just the fact that literally no one with enough experience iseven trying is all lol
i bet if a group of seasoned devs got together they could find a way in no time. This is unlikely to ever happen tho lol

Nothing ventured nothing gained.

Any updates?

Negative. I don't even bother to root anymore, if I really cared about rooting I would never by a snapdragon variant in today's time.

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Negative. I don't even bother to root anymore, if I really cared about rooting I would never by a snapdragon variant in today's time.
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You mean U.S Snapdragon.. i have H.K Snapdragon rooted
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louforgiveno said:
You mean U.S Snapdragon.. i have H.K Snapdragon rooted
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That's obvious

Is it?

louforgiveno said:
Is it?
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Your comment proves how obvious it was because you redundantly stated the obvious itself proving it was implied.

aarongotgame said:
Your comment proves how obvious it was because you redundantly stated the obvious itself proving it was implied.
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Yes it is...
aarongotgame said:
Negative. I don't even bother to root anymore, if I really cared about rooting I would never by a snapdragon variant in today's time.
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louforgiveno said:
Yes it is...
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Continued oxygen deprivation results in fainting, long-term loss of consciousness, coma, seizures, cessation of brain stem reflexes, and brain death.
I have zero signs.
If you knew I was referring to the U.S. variant, you aren't alone. The undertone of your message referring to your particular snapdragon was an obvious unwarranted flex which reason is probably beyond your own ability to perform metacognition.

I feel a mod coming along soon
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aarongotgame said:
Continued oxygen deprivation results in fainting, long-term loss of consciousness, coma, seizures, cessation of brain stem reflexes, and brain death.
I have zero signs.
If you knew I was referring to the U.S. variant, you aren't alone. The undertone of your message referring to your particular snapdragon was an obvious unwarranted flex which reason is probably beyond your own ability to perform metacognition.
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Your very first post in this Note 10 thread was you stating Snapdragon couldn't be rooted....whether you and I know different, someone else might think Exynos was their only route to have root. So your blanket statement was factually incorrect. Many people come to xda for answers to questions they never thought to ask and the more accurate ideas shared, the less confusion for those people.
The correct way to put it is to not buy a U.S Snapdragon if you want root, or simply to avoid the U and UI Snapdragons if you want root.
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Your very first post in this Note 10 thread was you stating Snapdragon couldn't be rooted....whether you and I know different, someone else might think Exynos was their only route to have root. So your blanket statement was factually incorrect. Many people come to xda for answers to questions they never thought to ask and the more accurate ideas shared, the less confusion for those people.
The correct way to put it is to not buy a U.S Snapdragon if you want root, or simply to avoid the U and UI Snapdragons if you want root.
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The irony here is your blanket, rough draft suggestion saying, "to not buy a U.S. Snapdragon if you want root;" while staying within the context of your last reply, is factually incorrect. Many U.S. snapdragons, Galaxy S' for example have numerous comments of "will never be rooted" and "cant be rooted" and these were also factually incorrect or proven wrong when root was found.
Worst case scenario is someone thinks something cant be rooted, keeps searching and finds out it can be or has been. Best case scenario is they buy a device already proven and verified to have root.
I said and I quote, "I [me] don't even bother to root anymore, if I [me] really cared about rooting I [me] would never buy a snapdragon variant in today's time." This isnt an instruction to anyone or any group of people regardless of what they are on xda for and I do not represent xda in any other capacity than a forum member. My post is literally a personal admission and comment pertaining to my personal choice. Nowhere did I say a snapdragon or U.S. snapdragon cannot be rooted therefore anyone with basic intelligence and comprehension skills wouldnt be looking to my singular comment for guidance on rooting their device. It is a comment of personal choice, not a guide on rooting.
Your comment saying that your H. K. snapdragon has root, has no grounding in my choice not to buy a snapdragon if I "really cared about rooting." This is why I believe it to be 49% informative and 51% a weird flex to say you have a rooted snapdragon, which I guess I should be saying... Congratulations? But then again, your rooted phone has zero affect on my life in any way as I am not seeking to root.
The probability of someone taking my comment and pulling from it that all snapdragons cant be rooted is baseless and would be considered reaching and would only speak to that individual person's ignorance to ignore readily available public information that proves otherwise. If a person chooses not to do their own research, that's their choice. Their quest for root has zero to do with my personal choice to not buy snapdragons if I really cared about rooting.
A personal statement is not an instruction. What someone pulls from my words is based off of their own symbolic interaction with my comment. The same way if someone read your comment stating, "do not buy a U.S. snapdragon if you want root" is not entirely true and would be jumping the gun to presume snapdragons cant be rooted. The correct statement would go along the lines of, if you prefer an easier route to rooting capability as it pertains to most Samsung Galaxy devices, then the Exynos variant would be the smarter, safer purchase for a consumer. Obviously dev's of any stature would be somewhat excluded from this from an operational and mechanical standpoint as they may want to take a crack at a workaround, root, etc.
Semantics.

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prolly not in the near future lol.. i sold my n976v and am no longer working on root.. i have a sprint snapdragon s10 5g with unlocked bl.. its a win/win for me

louforgiveno said:
Yes it is...
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lol!

0oGH0STo0 said:
lol!
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Hahaha, You made my day Ghost!!
That meme makes me LOL every time

elliwigy said:
prolly not in the near future lol.. i sold my n976v and am no longer working on root.. i have a sprint snapdragon s10 5g with unlocked bl.. its a win/win for me
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How is the S10? Yeah I'm thinking about swapping out soon also. Thinking about the oneplus 8 pro but heard there were display issues so I'm holding off on that one. Looking forward to the fold 2 or note 20. Might try something else tho, not too sure yet
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Why is the (exynos) devlopment so dead & sloppy ?

Wassup Guys,
First of all, I wanna thank every developer in this forum here for providing us with free custom roms and mods for our device. I got a G986B by myself, but I neither rooted my device, nor did I install a custom rom. I wanted to install the latest stock debloated by hmy65, sadly my device type is not supported yet.
This brings me to the question, why there are so less projects in comparison to the amount of people being active here? Besides the reason, that Samsung is not providing every source tree or similar, I am wondering why there are so less custom roms currently ...is it because of massive amount of variety between the model itself? I am a developer too, sadly I am not a pro regarding building custom roms... although I gotta admit that I am interested in learning it. Well, what do you say? I mean like the S8,S9,S10 had plenty roms avaible at that time (speaking about the passed time since the device's release).

Could be worse, you could have a snapdragon with zero development.

digitaljeff said:
Could be worse, you could have a snapdragon with zero development.
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Yeah, I was gonna say, the Snapdragon model has literally zero. I could be mistaken, but I thought SD always had more development in the past..

digitaljeff said:
Could be worse, you could have a snapdragon with zero development.
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X04D said:
Yeah, I was gonna say, the Snapdragon model has literally zero. I could be mistaken, but I thought SD always had more development in the past..
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Well, that's true. But I guess I speak for the majority, when I say that Samsung and Snapdragon is not always a perfect combination. Well, I'd actually build something by myself but I doubt that someone can learn that fast ??