Hey guys,
I wonder if the so called gaming SoC will get any better in terms of gaming performance with further updates from HTC. At the moment the games run barely as good as on my SGS2. I know..the resolution of the HOX is twice as high but the games graphics ar getting better and I cant even play NOVA 3 with my 'gaming device'... There is a way to make it a bit less laggy with new Base and franco kernel but it's still far away from beeing smooth. What I want to ask you is: Is there still potential for tegra 3 to run those games smooth and it's just a matter of time till an update comes that improves the framerates or is it just hardware limited? Are there other Tegra 3 devices which can run these games without any issues? I'm hoping that the 3.* kernel will improve something but actually I have no clue.
well u have to look at this from the point of view of the game/software/hardware
the one game u mentioned is not HOX compatible,
it's been force run on the device.... so as far as this go..... you'll need to wait for the game to be T3 optimized
software optimizations are still underway from both xda devs and htc.... and as u see they are getting better by the day
and finally not much to say about the hardware but... its more than capable just give it time.
ossy1337 said:
Hey guys,
I wonder if the so called gaming SoC will get any better in terms of gaming performance with further updates from HTC. At the moment the games run barely as good as on my SGS2. I know..the resolution of the HOX is twice as high but the games graphics ar getting better and I cant even play NOVA 3 with my 'gaming device'... There is a way to make it a bit less laggy with new Base and franco kernel but it's still far away from beeing smooth. What I want to ask you is: Is there still potential for tegra 3 to run those games smooth and it's just a matter of time till an update comes that improves the framerates or is it just hardware limited? Are there other Tegra 3 devices which can run these games without any issues? I'm hoping that the 3.* kernel will improve something but actually I have no clue.
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Hey all! I just got my S3 last week and it's my first Android phone. I'm trying to run an N64 emulator (Mupen64Plus) and it's pretty laggy, especially when sound is enabled. I've seen and posts about users running N64 games just fine on their S3's, so I'm not sure what the issue is. If anyone has any suggestions for getting my phone to play N64 games smoothly, I'm all ears. Btw, I haven't rooted or done anything fancy and don't plan to in the near future.
Some info: I ran the Quadrant Standard benchmark and got 5392. Generally, I'm using about 750/1560 MB or RAM (before running the emulator). I've run a process monitor that says nothing else is taking more than 2% of the cpu, except for the "System," which takes <10%. In all, it looks like not much is bogging the system down, so I'm really not sure why this app is having trouble. Are there other comparable high-end android games I should test my phone against? Thanks, guys.
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Hey all! I just got my S3 last week and it's my first Android phone. I'm trying to run an N64 emulator (Mupen64Plus) and it's pretty laggy, especially when sound is enabled. I've seen and posts about users running N64 games just fine on their S3's, so I'm not sure what the issue is. If anyone has any suggestions for getting my phone to play N64 games smoothly, I'm all ears. Btw, I haven't rooted or done anything fancy and don't plan to in the near future.
Some info: I ran the Quadrant Standard benchmark and got 5392. Generally, I'm using about 750/1560 MB or RAM (before running the emulator). I've run a process monitor that says nothing else is taking more than 2% of the cpu, except for the "System," which takes <10%. In all, it looks like not much is bogging the system down, so I'm really not sure why this app is having trouble. Are there other comparable high-end android games I should test my phone against? Thanks, guys.
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An S3 and the T999 have completely different hardware specs. Its uses the same screen, battery, and case, but thats about it. The S3 has a quad core, we have a dual core. Try another n64 app or a different site for getting rome. Also, make sure you place your roms on internal storage, if you're running a lower class SD Card.
This sounds like an app problem. ..try using a different emulator. Mess with the settings even. My emulator runs fine
You're asking a tiny handheld device that is designed to be a PHONE to do the things a device designed to be GAMING CONSOLE to do.
I'm just saying....
There may be other emulators that will do better on your particular phone.
It's not an alien spaceship you know.
Im pretty sure the only app that doesnt lag is N64oid try that. Runs perfectly for me
Hi dudes,
1st of all i want to know how is the speed of the system on the t428 or mk908? how to work with the system? is it the same speed feeling with an Intel pentium 4 cpu feeling or faster? i cant imagine that can be faster with an rk3166 cpu. how is the performance?
2nd isnt it better to use the sticks with android 4.x?
there are a lot of threads that show ubuntu works on the sticks but there no reviews of the perfomance.
If any anybody can make a video with the ubuntu and performance with some app and softwares and some games that would be nice.
cheers
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Hi dudes,
1st of all i want to know how is the speed of the system on the t428 or mk908? how to work with the system? is it the same speed feeling with an Intel pentium 4 cpu feeling or faster? i cant imagine that can be faster with an rk3166 cpu. how is the performance?
2nd isnt it better to use the sticks with android 4.x?
there are a lot of threads that show ubuntu works on the sticks but there no reviews of the perfomance.
If any anybody can make a video with the ubuntu and performance with some app and softwares and some games that would be nice.
cheers
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No netflix, spotify or xbmc possible at the moment, going to
Test video tomorrow
Guys I need help with my G4, situation with gaming is kinda unbelievable... I'm running android 6.0, and most games can't hit over 20fps mark, practically gaming it's more of frustration than fun
Examples:
Dragons rise of berk - 15-16 fps
Real Racing 3 - 20-21 fps
Jurasic World - 18-19fps
FF lagacy - 25-26fps
And things gets more interesting, I have also G2 that makes on average 30% better fps on the same games. Did an Antutu test, G4 is way better than the same G2, huge difference in 3d test.
Checked the net for the issue and found on this site folks that have it but hadn't have in with the Lollipop before that. Please give me some pointers for a future actions, is it wise to try go back to 5.1 or maybe wait for the next update? Or anything at all, I'm open to all ideas as long as they don't cost me my warranty (these LGs are not the most durable devices out there...).
Thanks!
I swear its d3vice to d3vice. I use ps1 and other emulators all the time ive never really watched the frame rates but never noticed lag. I got a gear vr ive been doin a bunch of games on it and it runs killer.
But im on lolipop heavly debloated bare core system.
Stock rom is riddled with throttling while gaming, I did notice games like hearthstone and minecraft getting unplayable after 20 minutes or so, fix is the way of going custom kernel and disabling stock thermal settings, soc on our phone doesn't heat up as much as 810 anyways (also 1440p much more demanding than 1080p take that in to consideration as well)
Of course i tested the heating issue, when the phone is cold is just a bit better, but the same thing basically. For example it would be 1fps difference cold-hot. Also interestingly on Antutu my device scores more than the same G4 with the same soft. Just watching the 3d garden part the phone G4 kills G2, many times smother, but when you try real game is the other way around.
In the other threads people that can't play also score normal on benchmarks.
My phone came with 6.0 stock, so can anyone made the upgrade from Lollipop share their experience? Also if anyone with MM can actually play some on the games I mentioned above as an example?
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Of course i tested the heating issue, when the phone is cold is just a bit better, but the same thing basically. For example it would be 1fps difference cold-hot. Also interestingly on Antutu my device scores more than the same G4 with the same soft. Just watching the 3d garden part the phone G4 kills G2, many times smother, but when you try real game is the other way around.
In the other threads people that can't play also score normal on benchmarks.
My phone came with 6.0 stock, so can anyone made the upgrade from Lollipop share their experience? Also if anyone with MM can actually play some on the games I mentioned above as an example?
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wich kernel you use on G2? i wish there was a dorimanx for G4..
3.10.84 and the soft is V20d-EUR-XX. I'm definitely not a gamer, but can't accept having a G4 that performs like a 80$ lenovo neither... Honestly I was thinking of switching to Samsung, but 20min of reading and I was left with the feeling that this action would just gain me changing one problem with another ones. At lest here I have only that FPS issue...and besides it I like the phone and would strongly prefer not to switch with another brand.
The most irritating thing is that the phone has no signs of hardware problems. On the Gamebench site there's plenty of test done with the stock 5.1 rom - https://www.gamebench.net/en/node/117
As you can see the same games do on average 30fps, witch is as it should be.
Just found a thread discussing the same issue on Galaxy S6....thats it with the brand switching idea...
I don't believe I'll ever have a phone that has everything working in order...
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Just found a thread discussing the same issue on Galaxy S6....thats it with the brand switching idea...
I don't believe I'll ever have a phone that has everything working in order...
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have you tried disabling the LOGD.?
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Just found a thread discussing the same issue on Galaxy S6....thats it with the brand switching idea...
I don't believe I'll ever have a phone that has everything working in order...
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The g3 was a good one
G2 was even better considering the time it first came up, it was also faster than G3. Anyways G4 is better than both, i'm pretty sure this is just a software issue.
Disabling LOGD needs root, right?
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G2 was even better considering the time it first came up, it was also faster than G3. Anyways G4 is better than both, i'm pretty sure this is just a software issue.
Disabling LOGD needs root, right?
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yes and no..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/finally-disable-logd-process-root-stock-t3343553
Rolled back to lollipop.....now Antutu scores are higher, but gaming is better just a bit. Do you other G4 owners play any games at all? Can't believe no one complains?
Is a hardware problem possible if the phone runs all benchmark and stress tests perfectly?
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G2 was even better considering the time it first came up, it was also faster than G3. Anyways G4 is better than both, i'm pretty sure this is just a software issue.
Disabling LOGD needs root, right?
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There is a setting that you can toggle in Settings > Battery & power saving, and then turn off Game optimizer. Don't know if it would help, but it's worth a shot.
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Rolled back to lollipop.....now Antutu scores are higher, but gaming is better just a bit. Do you other G4 owners play any games at all? Can't believe no one complains?
Is a hardware problem possible if the phone runs all benchmark and stress tests perfectly?
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I've mentioned it a few times in previous posts, I think the gaming performance on this device is just simply horrendous.
vic1250 said:
Rolled back to lollipop.....now Antutu scores are higher, but gaming is better just a bit. Do you other G4 owners play any games at all? Can't believe no one complains?
Is a hardware problem possible if the phone runs all benchmark and stress tests perfectly?
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Like i said i play ps1 and loads of games on mine. never notice any lag. I just modded my gear vr to work on my g4 and all the vr apps and games run surprisingly very well. Ive never been one to do benchmarks. Look and feel is more important than numbers to me. Ive seen phones get low benchmarks and game really well.
Im on lolipop by the way
Tested another thing, picked 2 games from the gamebench site that have been tested on g4... So Modern Combat 5 - 29fps Boom Beach - 58fps, both run super fluid. And the scores are exactly like in their test.
Having said that Real Racing continues to be a lot worse but they do 32fps on average. How is this possible? Look like the problem is concentrated on some games, not logical to me? How would it be possible every device to chose individually what games it likes??
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Tested another thing, picked 2 games from the gamebench site that have been tested on g4... So Modern Combat 5 - 29fps Boom Beach - 58fps, both run super fluid. And the scores are exactly like in their test.
Having said that Real Racing continues to be a lot worse but they do 32fps on average. How is this possible? Look like the problem is concentrated on some games, not logical to me? How would it be possible every device to chose individually what games it likes??
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Try Sim City BuildIt out on your phone and follow the tutorial right through to Dans City and see how that runs, its pretty poor on mine.
Will try it, even better its a strategy one. Btw, phonearena had complains about underperforming gpu on this phone. Was playing in 1080p trick possible without root?
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Will try it, even better its a strategy one. Btw, phonearena had complains about underperforming gpu on this phone. Was playing in 1080p trick possible without root?
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Dont know about without root but that might be it. i forgot i had my resolution dropped to 1080 for a long time now.
Ive been runnin all my vr 3d intensives in 1080. And like i said ive never noticed lags.
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Dont know about without root but that might be it. i forgot i had my resolution dropped to 1080 for a long time now.
Ive been runnin all my vr 3d intensives in 1080. And like i said ive never noticed lags.
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When I play 3d scenes in Antutu they are 1080p, and G4 plays them a LOT smother than G2. So I guess that might solve the problem, 2k is absolutely unnecessary for gaming purposes on this small screen.
Also I'm not sure that the acctual intensity of the game is the main reason, thing looks more like game to game or optimizing issues.
Just got my new phone and ran 3dbenchmark to find that my Vulkan performance is significantly worse than opengl. Is this normal for those on stock MIUI 10? Is this a driver issue and if so will a custom room with better drivers theoretically fix this?
I would look for answers myself but I am locked into waiting a month for my bootloader to free up so no custom ROMs for me yet.
946 / 756 here. RevolutionOS + InsigniuX Kernel. Probably do better if the ambient temperature here isn't too high (device get hot a little). With overclock, score better for sure
Hmm so it looks like a custom rom/kernel won't do much then. Guess that means I should always use opengl in PPSSPP and Dolphin. It's too bad because I was hoping Vulkan might make some Wii games more playable.