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[Q] N64oid on the EVO?

Just out of curiosity, has anyone tried the n64oid app on their EVO? And if so how well does it preform? I am wanting to know before I buy the app.
Thanks!
-Mitch

Runs fine for me.....

Runs fine for me, just a lil sound lag, but its expected.

Decent for me on LOZ:OOT. Bit laggy though.

Ive used it, but quite laggy on the game i was playing, Diddy Kong Racing. It will get better tho

I just downloaded it, and EVERY rom i've downloaded on the EVO for n64oid is Super laggy, unplayable. Anyone know why?

ive had the same problem on my evo, except for mario 64 and harvest moon 64, but otherwise all the other roms are so laggy i can barely play them, even though some of the same roms i've seen youtube videos of them running perfectly. same question as above; anybody know why?

evo.altig said:
ive had the same problem on my evo, except for mario 64 and harvest moon 64, but otherwise all the other roms are so laggy i can barely play them, even though some of the same roms i've seen youtube videos of them running perfectly. same question as above; anybody know why?
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is there the option of changing the framerate? the higher the frame rate, the smoother the game, but it takes a heavy toll on your battery, you'll be best to play while tethered to the wall via charger cable

I just bought this app as well. Downloaded Goldeneye, Mario, and Mario Kart. All games are extremely laggy. Mario kart is playable, but the on screen timer takes about 3 seconds for every second in real time. Goldeneye, which I was really looking forward to, wont even load past the pre-game animated video. Very disappointing.

I changed the frame rate in mario kart, it worked okay, but still really laggy. Goldeneye and NFL Blitz were terrible no matter what the framerate!! I thought EVOs were fast?!!! What's going on?

amcintosh32 said:
I changed the frame rate in mario kart, it worked okay, but still really laggy. Goldeneye and NFL Blitz were terrible no matter what the framerate!! I thought EVOs were fast?!!! What's going on?
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Our processors are fast, our GPUs are outdated though. All the cool people run Adreno 205, we're stuck at 200.
Plus, as someone noted, it'll get better. There's a lot of stuff for the developer to work out to make the programming as efficient as possible so we don't experience so much lag. If you recall, it took the guy who did SNESoid several months before he could even get Super Mario RPG to work, and even so there's still enhancements being made to make it more playable.
patience...or buy a phone with better hardware. your choice.

Its not our phone, the dev clearly states at the bottom that the app should be considered an Alpha as he has so many performance updates to push thru to get it working close to perfect on most high end phones. Just give it time.
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Yes, the results posted here are actually typical of most phones right now. The Evo does have a slightly lower GPU, but that actually doesn't matter with these emulators. Someone explained that unless the emulator was using openGL, which it apparently isn't, it shouldn't matter. I don't know, I just read that.
I have tested it on two roms. Myns 2.2 RSL5, and UltimateDroid 2.5. Both with kernels that support overclocking. On the sense rom, I have to download setcpu and set it to performance. On UD, I can set it in the settings. I overclock to 1.19GHZ.
In the app I have found it doesn't really matter if sound is checked on or off. Turning up the frameskips seemed to help. My results so far are the following games play well:
Mario 64 (flawless)
Mario Kart 64 (just a little bit laggy, but very enjoyable)
Star Fox 64 (menus and videos are very choppy, but in game it's super smooth and definately worth the download)
If for nothing more than these 3 games, this was well worth $6. I would have gladly bought these for $2 each if there were available as standalones somewhere.
That being said, the developer is known for updating all the time. Star Fox is running much more smoothly now than it was when the app first was released, so already I have seen a compatibilty increase.
Expect to continue to see updates, and as they do, more games will be available.
Now, if ANYONE has some complaint about the $6 they paid, go complain somewhere else. We don't want to hear it.

Runs like bunk on the evo because of the adreno 200.
Just ran it on an epic and it works perfect with the almighty powervr. (although the rest of the phone sucks)

It has potential so I bought it. I just want to play Zelda and Mario Kart. I can't wait until the Dreamcast emulator comes out so I can play Shenmue.
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if you install CM7 and over clock to 1.1ghz it runs a lot better.

Disappointed in the GPU...

Can't even play dungeon defender second wave, choppy once u get into a battle.
Thing is at 42C and the top portion of the phone is uncomfortably hot to touch.
I knew the hardware wasn't bleeding edge but didn't expect the phone to be this ****ty.
It just barely runs that game better than my previous Motorola Triumph overclock'd to 1.5ghz

how do u know it's not dungeon defenders not being optimized for ICS?

It's definitely because of the new software dude. The GNex can run Shadowgun without any hiccups, I'm sure it can run anything else when the apps are properly optimized.

Not properly optimized, bro.

wonshikee said:
Can't even play dungeon defender second wave, choppy once u get into a battle.
Thing is at 42C and the top portion of the phone is uncomfortably hot to touch.
I knew the hardware wasn't bleeding edge but didn't expect the phone to be this ****ty.
It just barely runs that game better than my previous Motorola Triumph overclock'd to 1.5ghz
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That's because Dungeon Defenders is heavily optimized for the TEGRA2 platform, and has been modified for everything else since release. It's been modified to work with a majority of the GPUs on the market right now, but new devices demand more modification. It's the way the game was designed.
What this means is that soon they'll update it to work well with the Nexus. Just give it time.

Just return it and get, well, something better?
Or wait on app devs to update their stuff for ICS?
The hardware is just fine. It's poor app coding that's slowing you down.

Shadowgun runs fine, its one of the most graphically intensive games we have on Android.

LOL
I'm running a GTX 570.
No issues here

Dungeon Defender is working fine on my GNexus, with the graphics setting bar set all the way to full, what rom/kernel are you using?

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Dungeon Defender is working fine on my GNexus, with the graphics setting bar set all the way to full, what rom/kernel are you using?
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It's 100% stock.
And yeah I suppose I need to wait for an ICS version before I pass judgement, just frustrated I can't play it.

Not optimized + maybe u just expirience some high latency(if it is a online game, i dont know)

only played a quick game, but seemed fluid..
-m

Do you have force hardware acceleration under developer options checked?

Why is Let's Golf 3 so freaking laggy?

I like this game but I always have to put up with crappy framerate, lag spikes and unresponsive controls sometimes too.
Today the game was running much worse than usual, so I decided to watch some youtube videos to see if the game runs so bad on other devices too, and from the videos I watched, it seems the game runs perfectly on the Xperia Play and on the Xperia Mini too.
What could be the reason for this crazy laggyness on this device? Ok, the game is playable but honestly, it runs like ****.
I think there is something wrong with certain apps in the market, it downloads an apk that's totally unoptimized for this device, and I noticed the same thing happening with another Gameloft game, Asphalt 6, the version I bought from the market ran like complete and utter **** and was unplayable, then I installed a random cracked one I found with google, and not only it looked better (with reflection on the car and everything), it also ran 100% smooth. I still haven't bothered to ask for a refund (I don't know if it's even possible, but anyway I don't really care for .79€ that much) since the downloaded version runs perfectly, I'll just keep that one.
What do you think is wrong with this stuff?

Please tell us what firmware, rom and kernel are you using?
These details are required to sort out every problem!
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[Q] Laggy games?

Hi,
I got the Tab s 10.5 LTE, im on a debloated and rooted stock, and its all smooth as hell, even my iPad 4 lags more when using Chrome. The only weird thing is lag in some games, like PvZ2 and Angry Birds Transformers... when theres a lot going on, the whole scene is slowing down just to run smooth again to slow down again. Used to iOS, this is new for me and i guess its normal for Android devices? Im watching the cpu with cool tools and its always between 20-40% while gaming. So must be the gpu, right?
Edit: im always closing all open apps with task manager before starting a game.
Thanks,
Phil

Some games arent optimised for certian andriod devices. Their mostly supposed to run on most andriod devices with little lag. Unless the developer does optimises it it could run better. I get lag on some games too lol. I think there are some things you can do to tweak your device but idk if you can.

i have pvz2 and it's smooth as hell :v and as well as angry birds tranformer

tapped out is the main one I found with lag with my tab s 8.4. a bit disappointed but not enough to get rid of the tablet.. quick search brought me to some threads that claim tapped out and exynos octa don't like each other..

Tapped out seems to be bugged, AB Transformers and PvZ2 do run smooth until theres a lot going on on the screen, then the frames go down noticeable. Well i guess its really an optimization problem...

G4 unusable for gaming? Extremely low FPS with MM

Guys I need help with my G4, situation with gaming is kinda unbelievable... I'm running android 6.0, and most games can't hit over 20fps mark, practically gaming it's more of frustration than fun
Examples:
Dragons rise of berk - 15-16 fps
Real Racing 3 - 20-21 fps
Jurasic World - 18-19fps
FF lagacy - 25-26fps
And things gets more interesting, I have also G2 that makes on average 30% better fps on the same games. Did an Antutu test, G4 is way better than the same G2, huge difference in 3d test.
Checked the net for the issue and found on this site folks that have it but hadn't have in with the Lollipop before that. Please give me some pointers for a future actions, is it wise to try go back to 5.1 or maybe wait for the next update? Or anything at all, I'm open to all ideas as long as they don't cost me my warranty (these LGs are not the most durable devices out there...).
Thanks!

I swear its d3vice to d3vice. I use ps1 and other emulators all the time ive never really watched the frame rates but never noticed lag. I got a gear vr ive been doin a bunch of games on it and it runs killer.
But im on lolipop heavly debloated bare core system.

Stock rom is riddled with throttling while gaming, I did notice games like hearthstone and minecraft getting unplayable after 20 minutes or so, fix is the way of going custom kernel and disabling stock thermal settings, soc on our phone doesn't heat up as much as 810 anyways (also 1440p much more demanding than 1080p take that in to consideration as well)

Of course i tested the heating issue, when the phone is cold is just a bit better, but the same thing basically. For example it would be 1fps difference cold-hot. Also interestingly on Antutu my device scores more than the same G4 with the same soft. Just watching the 3d garden part the phone G4 kills G2, many times smother, but when you try real game is the other way around.
In the other threads people that can't play also score normal on benchmarks.
My phone came with 6.0 stock, so can anyone made the upgrade from Lollipop share their experience? Also if anyone with MM can actually play some on the games I mentioned above as an example?

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Of course i tested the heating issue, when the phone is cold is just a bit better, but the same thing basically. For example it would be 1fps difference cold-hot. Also interestingly on Antutu my device scores more than the same G4 with the same soft. Just watching the 3d garden part the phone G4 kills G2, many times smother, but when you try real game is the other way around.
In the other threads people that can't play also score normal on benchmarks.
My phone came with 6.0 stock, so can anyone made the upgrade from Lollipop share their experience? Also if anyone with MM can actually play some on the games I mentioned above as an example?
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wich kernel you use on G2? i wish there was a dorimanx for G4..

3.10.84 and the soft is V20d-EUR-XX. I'm definitely not a gamer, but can't accept having a G4 that performs like a 80$ lenovo neither... Honestly I was thinking of switching to Samsung, but 20min of reading and I was left with the feeling that this action would just gain me changing one problem with another ones. At lest here I have only that FPS issue...and besides it I like the phone and would strongly prefer not to switch with another brand.
The most irritating thing is that the phone has no signs of hardware problems. On the Gamebench site there's plenty of test done with the stock 5.1 rom - https://www.gamebench.net/en/node/117
As you can see the same games do on average 30fps, witch is as it should be.

Just found a thread discussing the same issue on Galaxy S6....thats it with the brand switching idea...
I don't believe I'll ever have a phone that has everything working in order...

vic1250 said:
Just found a thread discussing the same issue on Galaxy S6....thats it with the brand switching idea...
I don't believe I'll ever have a phone that has everything working in order...
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have you tried disabling the LOGD.?

vic1250 said:
Just found a thread discussing the same issue on Galaxy S6....thats it with the brand switching idea...
I don't believe I'll ever have a phone that has everything working in order...
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The g3 was a good one

G2 was even better considering the time it first came up, it was also faster than G3. Anyways G4 is better than both, i'm pretty sure this is just a software issue.
Disabling LOGD needs root, right?

vic1250 said:
G2 was even better considering the time it first came up, it was also faster than G3. Anyways G4 is better than both, i'm pretty sure this is just a software issue.
Disabling LOGD needs root, right?
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yes and no..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/finally-disable-logd-process-root-stock-t3343553

Rolled back to lollipop.....now Antutu scores are higher, but gaming is better just a bit. Do you other G4 owners play any games at all? Can't believe no one complains?
Is a hardware problem possible if the phone runs all benchmark and stress tests perfectly?

vic1250 said:
G2 was even better considering the time it first came up, it was also faster than G3. Anyways G4 is better than both, i'm pretty sure this is just a software issue.
Disabling LOGD needs root, right?
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There is a setting that you can toggle in Settings > Battery & power saving, and then turn off Game optimizer. Don't know if it would help, but it's worth a shot.

vic1250 said:
Rolled back to lollipop.....now Antutu scores are higher, but gaming is better just a bit. Do you other G4 owners play any games at all? Can't believe no one complains?
Is a hardware problem possible if the phone runs all benchmark and stress tests perfectly?
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I've mentioned it a few times in previous posts, I think the gaming performance on this device is just simply horrendous.

vic1250 said:
Rolled back to lollipop.....now Antutu scores are higher, but gaming is better just a bit. Do you other G4 owners play any games at all? Can't believe no one complains?
Is a hardware problem possible if the phone runs all benchmark and stress tests perfectly?
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Like i said i play ps1 and loads of games on mine. never notice any lag. I just modded my gear vr to work on my g4 and all the vr apps and games run surprisingly very well. Ive never been one to do benchmarks. Look and feel is more important than numbers to me. Ive seen phones get low benchmarks and game really well.
Im on lolipop by the way

Tested another thing, picked 2 games from the gamebench site that have been tested on g4... So Modern Combat 5 - 29fps Boom Beach - 58fps, both run super fluid. And the scores are exactly like in their test.
Having said that Real Racing continues to be a lot worse but they do 32fps on average. How is this possible? Look like the problem is concentrated on some games, not logical to me? How would it be possible every device to chose individually what games it likes??

vic1250 said:
Tested another thing, picked 2 games from the gamebench site that have been tested on g4... So Modern Combat 5 - 29fps Boom Beach - 58fps, both run super fluid. And the scores are exactly like in their test.
Having said that Real Racing continues to be a lot worse but they do 32fps on average. How is this possible? Look like the problem is concentrated on some games, not logical to me? How would it be possible every device to chose individually what games it likes??
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Try Sim City BuildIt out on your phone and follow the tutorial right through to Dans City and see how that runs, its pretty poor on mine.

Will try it, even better its a strategy one. Btw, phonearena had complains about underperforming gpu on this phone. Was playing in 1080p trick possible without root?

vic1250 said:
Will try it, even better its a strategy one. Btw, phonearena had complains about underperforming gpu on this phone. Was playing in 1080p trick possible without root?
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Dont know about without root but that might be it. i forgot i had my resolution dropped to 1080 for a long time now.
Ive been runnin all my vr 3d intensives in 1080. And like i said ive never noticed lags.

TheMadScientist420 said:
Dont know about without root but that might be it. i forgot i had my resolution dropped to 1080 for a long time now.
Ive been runnin all my vr 3d intensives in 1080. And like i said ive never noticed lags.
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When I play 3d scenes in Antutu they are 1080p, and G4 plays them a LOT smother than G2. So I guess that might solve the problem, 2k is absolutely unnecessary for gaming purposes on this small screen.
Also I'm not sure that the acctual intensity of the game is the main reason, thing looks more like game to game or optimizing issues.