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Hey guys,
I wonder if the so called gaming SoC will get any better in terms of gaming performance with further updates from HTC. At the moment the games run barely as good as on my SGS2. I know..the resolution of the HOX is twice as high but the games graphics ar getting better and I cant even play NOVA 3 with my 'gaming device'... There is a way to make it a bit less laggy with new Base and franco kernel but it's still far away from beeing smooth. What I want to ask you is: Is there still potential for tegra 3 to run those games smooth and it's just a matter of time till an update comes that improves the framerates or is it just hardware limited? Are there other Tegra 3 devices which can run these games without any issues? I'm hoping that the 3.* kernel will improve something but actually I have no clue.
well u have to look at this from the point of view of the game/software/hardware
the one game u mentioned is not HOX compatible,
it's been force run on the device.... so as far as this go..... you'll need to wait for the game to be T3 optimized
software optimizations are still underway from both xda devs and htc.... and as u see they are getting better by the day
and finally not much to say about the hardware but... its more than capable just give it time.
ossy1337 said:
Hey guys,
I wonder if the so called gaming SoC will get any better in terms of gaming performance with further updates from HTC. At the moment the games run barely as good as on my SGS2. I know..the resolution of the HOX is twice as high but the games graphics ar getting better and I cant even play NOVA 3 with my 'gaming device'... There is a way to make it a bit less laggy with new Base and franco kernel but it's still far away from beeing smooth. What I want to ask you is: Is there still potential for tegra 3 to run those games smooth and it's just a matter of time till an update comes that improves the framerates or is it just hardware limited? Are there other Tegra 3 devices which can run these games without any issues? I'm hoping that the 3.* kernel will improve something but actually I have no clue.
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Has anyone experienced slow DS emulation even with the 1.8 OC? I've been trying to run DSOID properly but my speed just sucks completely! I know its not the CPU since I get a 7000+ score on Quadrant, and its not the ROM. I'm using CleanROM which is stock. do you guys know what could be wrong with my setup?
What is you GPU clocked at? Also, you must remember that DSoid is still in development and you should only expect slowish speeds. Hopefully in the near future most games will be playable but not yet. Some games like Mario are very playable, so what game are you trying to play?
TheChaoticLlama said:
What is you GPU clocked at? Also, you must remember that DSoid is still in development and you should only expect slowish speeds. Hopefully in the near future most games will be playable but not yet. Some games like Mario are very playable, so what game are you trying to play?
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My GPU is clocked at 650 with fsync disabled and ondemand governor. I tried playing Pokemon Diamond and New Super Mario Bros, but both games where super slow.
The emulation engine is still a WIP. Until the dev for the app works out the best native emulation setup, most games will more than likely run that way. As the person above ,e said, the app is in very early stages. Stick with him and see how it evolves over time.
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I can't get it to work at all. I load a rom and just get a white screen, even with the elite kernel.
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magui43212 said:
I can't get it to work at all. I load a rom and just get a white screen, even with the elite kernel.
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I just get white screen as well
awerni said:
Has anyone experienced slow DS emulation even with the 1.8 OC? I've been trying to run DSOID properly but my speed just sucks completely! I know its not the CPU since I get a 7000+ score on Quadrant, and its not the ROM. I'm using CleanROM which is stock. do you guys know what could be wrong with my setup?
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Did you check out the app reviews? Slow for everybody right now, dsoid is a work in progress.
Dsoid is still very slow, I don't think that DS emulation will ever be up to par on the tablet market. I also doubt that Dsoid will be on the market for very long because it very clearly encourages piracy on a console that is still quite popular.
The Play store seems fine with emulators as long as you don't steal code. It's much more likely that the author will give up before making it playable. Still, I am very excited to see what DSoid can be.
Hi,
With HD screen and a bit weak GPU some games don't run as smooth as they could on Xperia S. Is it possible to reduce resolution on 800x480 (not the actual screen but game itself) so it would run better?
Of course it would not look sharp as it could but it would increase performance and maybe lower device heating and battery usage.
Thanks in advance!
if small apps work I wouldnt see why normal apps wouldnt but might be hard to do.
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if small apps work I wouldnt see why normal apps wouldnt but might be hard to do.
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The dual-core processor seems to be too slow to run games smoothly.
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PurlingNayuki said:
The dual-core processor seems to be too slow to run games smoothly.
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My Xperia mini pro is 1 Ghz and only have 1 core processor,but it can play any HD game smoothly...so,obviously with our new 2012 device (2 core and 1.5 Ghz),we can play game smoothly
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switzerland92 said:
Hi,
With HD screen and a bit weak GPU some games don't run as smooth as they could on Xperia S. Is it possible to reduce resolution on 800x480 (not the actual screen but game itself) so it would run better?
Of course it would not look sharp as it could but it would increase performance and maybe lower device heating and battery usage.
Thanks in advance!
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I don't know which game are you talking about but I can play any game with 0 lag. And as the above guy has said, even on my mini I could play any game quite smoothly.
BTW, wrong section.
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No you cant change the resolution. And i dont see any problem playing any game with my Xperia S. Maybe you got too much apps running.
I am using SlimBean and when I play game called Vector it runs too slow OC helped a little bit but still way too slow.
Rather weird considering that Vector is 2D game (parkour).
I have plenty of RAM and other apps run smoothly. I don't play anything else.
So that's a problem related to the game, it migh not handle good the resources. But reduce the resolution could be great for decrease the battery usage.
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Rather weird considering that Vector is 2D game (parkour).
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I have played the same game on OpenSEMC, and it had the lag you're mentioning. I think it has something to do with the fact that the phone has to process two "ragdolls" (the protagonist and its chaser). When, by means of power ups, you manage to get rid of the chaser for a while, the game runs considerably faster.
So, conclution is that Vector has some not-so-good optimized CPU usage and its physics engine requires some serious power (I9300 runs this game perfectly).
Thank you for your answers folks, still though it is shame that it is not possible to lower resolution, even just for the sake of lower battery consumption and/or less heating.
Let me first start off with saying that I am quite a newbie.
I know how to flash a rom and a kernel, but that´s about it.
I have recently gained new interest in my old XPlay, and is returning to it. For portable gaming purposes only. It is a nice device.
I have also been out of the loop for the past 2 years, so I have no idea where to start.
1. How is emulation on the Xperia Play faring overall? What emulators do people use for PSX-emulation nowadays? Last I was into gaming, it was FPSe that was the number 1.
2. I want to be able to run FF9 as good as possible. Can it be run from start to ending perfectly? Can someone please point me in a direction to a nice, lag-free setup (kernel/rom/emulator). I am ONLY interested in gaming. The phone will not be used for anything else.
I would be very thankful if someone could help me out. Cheers!
Try the aurora play ROM, it's probably the best one for gaming, since you aren't interested on using the xplay as a phone.
As for the emulation try fpse for ps1 games, every game should run smoothly. Also games like GTA III will run perfectly on that ROM.
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WhiteWashed said:
Try the aurora play ROM, it's probably the best one for gaming, since you aren't interested on using the xplay as a phone.
As for the emulation try fpse for ps1 games, every game should run smoothly. Also games like GTA III will run perfectly on that ROM.
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Thanks.
I have just installed the EliteGamer 2.0-rom, and I still get some lag in the music/battles of FF9. Using FPSe.
I have no idea if it would run better on another emulator?
silmes said:
Thanks.
I have just installed the EliteGamer 2.0-rom, and I still get some lag in the music/battles of FF9. Using FPSe.
I have no idea if it would run better on another emulator?
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Mmh, no, I don't think you'll get much better performance with other emulators...just try to overclock a bit and see how it works. Try 1,4 GHz and if there's still lag, try 1,6 GHz but use these freq only when you need performance for gaming since your battery will be drained much faster. No-Frills CPU Control is a very good app for overclocking, look for it on the Play Store. Make sure you use the latest Lupus GB kernel for more performance.
Unfortunately the Xplay has an "ancient" hardware so don't expect miracles from it...
Guys I need help with my G4, situation with gaming is kinda unbelievable... I'm running android 6.0, and most games can't hit over 20fps mark, practically gaming it's more of frustration than fun
Examples:
Dragons rise of berk - 15-16 fps
Real Racing 3 - 20-21 fps
Jurasic World - 18-19fps
FF lagacy - 25-26fps
And things gets more interesting, I have also G2 that makes on average 30% better fps on the same games. Did an Antutu test, G4 is way better than the same G2, huge difference in 3d test.
Checked the net for the issue and found on this site folks that have it but hadn't have in with the Lollipop before that. Please give me some pointers for a future actions, is it wise to try go back to 5.1 or maybe wait for the next update? Or anything at all, I'm open to all ideas as long as they don't cost me my warranty (these LGs are not the most durable devices out there...).
Thanks!
I swear its d3vice to d3vice. I use ps1 and other emulators all the time ive never really watched the frame rates but never noticed lag. I got a gear vr ive been doin a bunch of games on it and it runs killer.
But im on lolipop heavly debloated bare core system.
Stock rom is riddled with throttling while gaming, I did notice games like hearthstone and minecraft getting unplayable after 20 minutes or so, fix is the way of going custom kernel and disabling stock thermal settings, soc on our phone doesn't heat up as much as 810 anyways (also 1440p much more demanding than 1080p take that in to consideration as well)
Of course i tested the heating issue, when the phone is cold is just a bit better, but the same thing basically. For example it would be 1fps difference cold-hot. Also interestingly on Antutu my device scores more than the same G4 with the same soft. Just watching the 3d garden part the phone G4 kills G2, many times smother, but when you try real game is the other way around.
In the other threads people that can't play also score normal on benchmarks.
My phone came with 6.0 stock, so can anyone made the upgrade from Lollipop share their experience? Also if anyone with MM can actually play some on the games I mentioned above as an example?
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Of course i tested the heating issue, when the phone is cold is just a bit better, but the same thing basically. For example it would be 1fps difference cold-hot. Also interestingly on Antutu my device scores more than the same G4 with the same soft. Just watching the 3d garden part the phone G4 kills G2, many times smother, but when you try real game is the other way around.
In the other threads people that can't play also score normal on benchmarks.
My phone came with 6.0 stock, so can anyone made the upgrade from Lollipop share their experience? Also if anyone with MM can actually play some on the games I mentioned above as an example?
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wich kernel you use on G2? i wish there was a dorimanx for G4..
3.10.84 and the soft is V20d-EUR-XX. I'm definitely not a gamer, but can't accept having a G4 that performs like a 80$ lenovo neither... Honestly I was thinking of switching to Samsung, but 20min of reading and I was left with the feeling that this action would just gain me changing one problem with another ones. At lest here I have only that FPS issue...and besides it I like the phone and would strongly prefer not to switch with another brand.
The most irritating thing is that the phone has no signs of hardware problems. On the Gamebench site there's plenty of test done with the stock 5.1 rom - https://www.gamebench.net/en/node/117
As you can see the same games do on average 30fps, witch is as it should be.
Just found a thread discussing the same issue on Galaxy S6....thats it with the brand switching idea...
I don't believe I'll ever have a phone that has everything working in order...
vic1250 said:
Just found a thread discussing the same issue on Galaxy S6....thats it with the brand switching idea...
I don't believe I'll ever have a phone that has everything working in order...
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have you tried disabling the LOGD.?
vic1250 said:
Just found a thread discussing the same issue on Galaxy S6....thats it with the brand switching idea...
I don't believe I'll ever have a phone that has everything working in order...
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The g3 was a good one
G2 was even better considering the time it first came up, it was also faster than G3. Anyways G4 is better than both, i'm pretty sure this is just a software issue.
Disabling LOGD needs root, right?
vic1250 said:
G2 was even better considering the time it first came up, it was also faster than G3. Anyways G4 is better than both, i'm pretty sure this is just a software issue.
Disabling LOGD needs root, right?
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yes and no..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/finally-disable-logd-process-root-stock-t3343553
Rolled back to lollipop.....now Antutu scores are higher, but gaming is better just a bit. Do you other G4 owners play any games at all? Can't believe no one complains?
Is a hardware problem possible if the phone runs all benchmark and stress tests perfectly?
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G2 was even better considering the time it first came up, it was also faster than G3. Anyways G4 is better than both, i'm pretty sure this is just a software issue.
Disabling LOGD needs root, right?
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There is a setting that you can toggle in Settings > Battery & power saving, and then turn off Game optimizer. Don't know if it would help, but it's worth a shot.
vic1250 said:
Rolled back to lollipop.....now Antutu scores are higher, but gaming is better just a bit. Do you other G4 owners play any games at all? Can't believe no one complains?
Is a hardware problem possible if the phone runs all benchmark and stress tests perfectly?
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I've mentioned it a few times in previous posts, I think the gaming performance on this device is just simply horrendous.
vic1250 said:
Rolled back to lollipop.....now Antutu scores are higher, but gaming is better just a bit. Do you other G4 owners play any games at all? Can't believe no one complains?
Is a hardware problem possible if the phone runs all benchmark and stress tests perfectly?
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Like i said i play ps1 and loads of games on mine. never notice any lag. I just modded my gear vr to work on my g4 and all the vr apps and games run surprisingly very well. Ive never been one to do benchmarks. Look and feel is more important than numbers to me. Ive seen phones get low benchmarks and game really well.
Im on lolipop by the way
Tested another thing, picked 2 games from the gamebench site that have been tested on g4... So Modern Combat 5 - 29fps Boom Beach - 58fps, both run super fluid. And the scores are exactly like in their test.
Having said that Real Racing continues to be a lot worse but they do 32fps on average. How is this possible? Look like the problem is concentrated on some games, not logical to me? How would it be possible every device to chose individually what games it likes??
vic1250 said:
Tested another thing, picked 2 games from the gamebench site that have been tested on g4... So Modern Combat 5 - 29fps Boom Beach - 58fps, both run super fluid. And the scores are exactly like in their test.
Having said that Real Racing continues to be a lot worse but they do 32fps on average. How is this possible? Look like the problem is concentrated on some games, not logical to me? How would it be possible every device to chose individually what games it likes??
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Try Sim City BuildIt out on your phone and follow the tutorial right through to Dans City and see how that runs, its pretty poor on mine.
Will try it, even better its a strategy one. Btw, phonearena had complains about underperforming gpu on this phone. Was playing in 1080p trick possible without root?
vic1250 said:
Will try it, even better its a strategy one. Btw, phonearena had complains about underperforming gpu on this phone. Was playing in 1080p trick possible without root?
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Dont know about without root but that might be it. i forgot i had my resolution dropped to 1080 for a long time now.
Ive been runnin all my vr 3d intensives in 1080. And like i said ive never noticed lags.
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Dont know about without root but that might be it. i forgot i had my resolution dropped to 1080 for a long time now.
Ive been runnin all my vr 3d intensives in 1080. And like i said ive never noticed lags.
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When I play 3d scenes in Antutu they are 1080p, and G4 plays them a LOT smother than G2. So I guess that might solve the problem, 2k is absolutely unnecessary for gaming purposes on this small screen.
Also I'm not sure that the acctual intensity of the game is the main reason, thing looks more like game to game or optimizing issues.