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is it worth getting a Pixel 2 xl from verizon

just what the title says. they have a buy 1 get 1 free deal going on was wondering if it is worth it. it also comes with google home and chromecast. i would probably sell those on ebay though.
currently i have a nexus 6 and am running 8.1. i wouldnt mind updating but what good is the phone if the bootloader is locked.

kidhudi said:
just what the title says. they have a buy 1 get 1 free deal going on was wondering if it is worth it. it also comes with google home and chromecast. i would probably sell those on ebay though.
currently i have a nexus 6 and am running 8.1. i wouldnt mind updating but what good is the phone if the bootloader is locked.
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Asked and answered a gabillion times.
No
Get it from verizon and delete your bookmarks to XDA.

Ok. Sorry for asking
Thanks for the input

kidhudi said:
Ok. Sorry for asking
Thanks for the input
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Get it from Google if you can.

kidhudi said:
just what the title says. they have a buy 1 get 1 free deal going on was wondering if it is worth it. it also comes with google home and chromecast. i would probably sell those on ebay though.
currently i have a nexus 6 and am running 8.1. i wouldnt mind updating but what good is the phone if the bootloader is locked.
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Getting a VZW locked device, maybe not worth it if you are dead set on flashing custom stuff.
Getting TWO 2 XLs (selling one for $300-400) probably worth it unless you're dead set on flashing custom stuff.
Google offers the same financing that VZW has (24mo 0% interest) and for roughly the same monthly $$$ you'd pay at VZW, you get an unlocked 2 XL!
If you get the Google unlocked version, which can be used on Verizon's network; it's ABSOLUTELY worth it.
I took the Verizon sim card from my unlocked 6P and dropped it in my unlocked 2 XL, no issues!
The 2 XL was a great device before I rooted, flashed a cust kernel, and cust rom on it, and it's just that much better now that I'm running all the custom stuff.

kidhudi said:
Ok. Sorry for asking
Thanks for the input
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Dont be sorry for asking.
That wasnt my intent.
I was trying to emphasize the futility of the verizon phone.

Yeah. I want to switch from VZW. I would have had the phone in my hand by now if it wasn't for the locked bootloader. I am just looking to the future. I have my Nexus
6 obviously unlocked running Android Oreo. With a locked bootloader once the official OTAs are done. Then your screwed. From Google play store the deal isn't as good. Sucks

I just bought a Verizon pixel 2 XL and unlocked the bootloader. I'm currently running magisk 16.4 / elementalx kernel / nitrogenOS and love it.
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Intelli69 said:
I just bought a Verizon pixel 2 XL and unlocked the bootloader. I'm currently running magisk 16.4 / elementalx kernel / nitrogenOS and love it.
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You are likely to receive many inquiries as to how you unlocked the Verizon version. So be ready!

kidhudi said:
just what the title says. they have a buy 1 get 1 free deal going on was wondering if it is worth it. it also comes with google home and chromecast. i would probably sell those on ebay though.
currently i have a nexus 6 and am running 8.1. i wouldnt mind updating but what good is the phone if the bootloader is locked.
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its still a great device with a locked bootloader.
You're asking the wrong questions however.
If you dont have any intentions of rooting/custom ROM'ing or things of the like, there is no reason not to buy it from Verizon.
If you plan to, or even think you might want to do something custom with the device, then it would be better to buy from Google.
An unlockable bootloader for most people is irrelevant. Tech minded people (like those here on XDA) place a premium on it.
Whether or no it is 'worth' anything is only something you can answer.

uicnren said:
its still a great device with a locked bootloader.
You're asking the wrong questions however.
If you dont have any intentions of rooting/custom ROM'ing or things of the like, there is no reason not to buy it from Verizon.
If you plan to, or even think you might want to do something custom with the device, then it would be better to buy from Google.
An unlockable bootloader for most people is irrelevant. Tech minded people (like those here on XDA) place a premium on it.
Whether or no it is 'worth' anything is only something you can answer.
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thanks for the feedback. an unlocked bootloader is a pretty big deal for me. i missed the 2 for 1 deal and ended up getting the google version. probably better off that way i dont want to be married to verizon for another 2 years

Intelli69 said:
I just bought a Verizon pixel 2 XL and unlocked the bootloader. I'm currently running magisk 16.4 / elementalx kernel / nitrogenOS and love it.
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
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How did you unlock the bl on a VZW Pixel 2 XL?
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Badger50 said:
You are likely to receive many inquiries as to how you unlocked the Verizon version. So be ready!
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kidhudi said:
thanks for the feedback. an unlocked bootloader is a pretty big deal for me. i missed the 2 for 1 deal and ended up getting the google version. probably better off that way i dont want to be married to verizon for another 2 years
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You're mixing up unlocked bootloader and sim unlocked. Verizon and Google pixels are both sim unlocked.

JoeNeckbone said:
You're mixing up unlocked bootloader and sim unlocked. Verizon and Google pixels are both sim unlocked.
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no i am not. i just pointed out i didnt opt for the "deal" from verizon that mandates a new 2 year contact. and a locked vzw variant.

See glad I've read up last few days..I can't get financed through Google.. so stuck going to Verizon to get the pixel XL 2...I've owned the nexus 4,6 and 6p...love google phones..but I'm a hardcore custom fan...I've read how people have unlocked the bootloader with the Verizon model..even had a store rep tell me he unlocked his bootloader..yes bootloader..not sim unlock..I really think it's bs anyone can even stop you from unlocking it....where there is a will there is a way tho..if I want the phone I gotta figure it out..been reading a lot it's almost impossible to do..but I have a few ideas can't hurt to try..

atxhardrocker23 said:
See glad I've read up last few days..I can't get financed through Google.. so stuck going to Verizon to get the pixel XL 2...I've owned the nexus 4,6 and 6p...love google phones..but I'm a hardcore custom fan...I've read how people have unlocked the bootloader with the Verizon model..even had a store rep tell me he unlocked his bootloader..yes bootloader..not sim unlock..I really think it's bs anyone can even stop you from unlocking it....where there is a will there is a way tho..if I want the phone I gotta figure it out..been reading a lot it's almost impossible to do..but I have a few ideas can't hurt to try..
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You'll be a rock star if you can pull it off. Best of luck bruh! ??

I have an opportunity to pick up a Verizon 2 XL for $200. Only known issue is that the back left corner is shattered. I read you can replace that for under $20.
Screen is fine.
Do you think it would be worth picking it up as an intermediary and in a couple of months invest it towards a Google edition 2 XL (after repairing it)?

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I have an opportunity to pick up a Verizon 2 XL for $200. Only known issue is that the back left corner is shattered. I read you can replace that for under $20.
Screen is fine.
Do you think it would be worth picking it up as an intermediary and in a couple of months invest it towards a Google edition 2 XL (after repairing it)?
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I would take it, put vzw insurance on it and get it replaced....is that wrong?

Really a big turn off for me...I'm not approved from Google to finance..but want the pixel XL 2...so..got me looking at other phones..does anyone know of any Verizon phones that can be bootloader unlocked..or at least rooted..I'd rather custom roms but root is a have to have...( Unlimited tethering)... looking at the note 8, s8+ or the Moto force 2?.. thanks for the help..if there was a way to bypass tethering restrictions on the Verizon pixel XL 2
Id get it in a heartbeat... thanks

atxhardrocker23 said:
Really a big turn off for me...I'm not approved from Google to finance..but want the pixel XL 2...so..got me looking at other phones..does anyone know of any Verizon phones that can be bootloader unlocked..or at least rooted..I'd rather custom roms but root is a have to have...( Unlimited tethering)... looking at the note 8, s8+ or the Moto force 2?.. thanks for the help..if there was a way to bypass tethering restrictions on the Verizon pixel XL 2
Id get it in a heartbeat... thanks
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I believe the HTC phones are unlockable through their sunshine app. Jcase and Beaups.

Got a Pixel 2 XL have questions

I recently upgraded from a Note 8 to a Pixel 2 XL unlocked verizon model.
Unfortunately I cannot root the phone so I can't use xposed for the ad blocking capabilities.
I was told that there was a virtural exposed that does similar things yet I used it and I cannot use it on youtube to block ads.
Without rooting is there any way I can block youtube ads and app ads similar to exposed?
I am using firefox with ublock so that helps but I would very much enjoy blocking youtube and other ads?
Also is there something similar to Air android for Pixel 2? I cannot use Air android for pixel 2 it keeps force closing. Not sure if its because of the phone or Android P?
Phone other wise is extremely great and I am using it on Android P
Would love suggestions for good cases and tempered glass
Thanks!

Dns66 would be your best bet for ad blocking without root.

TonikJDK said:
Dns66 would be your best bet for ad blocking without root.
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where would I find the DNS66?

A small search using uncle google reveal the answer

js2shanks said:
I recently upgraded from a Note 8 to a Pixel 2 XL unlocked verizon model....
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I'm curious, is your phone an unlocked model or a verizon model?
Where did you purchase your phone; Google Store? Did you purchase specifically the Verizon model from the Google Store?
Just checking, because if you did purchase an unlocked model and simply have a Verizon SIM in it, you are and would be able to root your phone...
Then, if you would be able to unlock the bootloader, many of your concerns could be addressed better having root access...

simplepinoi177 said:
I'm curious, is your phone an unlocked model or a verizon model?
Where did you purchase your phone; Google Store? Did you purchase specifically the Verizon model from the Google Store?
Just checking, because if you did purchase an unlocked model and simply have a Verizon SIM in it, you are and would be able to root your phone...
Then, if you would be able to unlock the bootloader, many of your concerns could be addressed better having root access...
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I'm assuming he means carrier unlocked not bootloader unlocked.

fiffan86 said:
I'm assuming he means carrier unlocked not bootloader unlocked.
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aaahhh...thank you for the clarification...
wait.....unless it's a verizon model, wouldn't they all be "carrier unlocked"? And, if so, it's only bootloader unlocked if it's a Verizon model, right?

Supposedly even the Verizon model is carrier unlocked. It however also has a locked bootloader. A device purchased direct from Google won't have a locked bootloader.
Funny story. I went into a Verizon store to get a case for my P2XL because Amazon couldn't tell the difference between a P2 and P2XL: they sent the wrong product. The Verizon rep asked me why I didn't buy my P2XL from them. Reply? "You lock your bootloaders." Without missing a beat the rep tried to say that they supposedly stopped doing that, to which I countered that I know more than a few people who would disagree with you. The "deer in the headlights" look and the mumbling about having to look into that [locked bootloader] was priceless.

Good story! Most Verizon emp's don't know what a bootloader is! ???

Youtube Vanced. Get the unrooted version.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Supposedly even the Verizon model is carrier unlocked. It however also has a locked bootloader. A device purchased direct from Google won't have a locked bootloader.
Funny story. I went into a Verizon store to get a case for my P2XL because Amazon couldn't tell the difference between a P2 and P2XL: they sent the wrong product. The Verizon rep asked me why I didn't buy my P2XL from them. Reply? "You lock your bootloaders." Without missing a beat the rep tried to say that they supposedly stopped doing that, to which I countered that I know more than a few people who would disagree with you. The "deer in the headlights" look and the mumbling about having to look into that [locked bootloader] was priceless.
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So, trying to understand this all correctly, you could purchase a "Verizon model", and bring over to another US carrier (let's say AT&T) and it would work? Or even an EU carrier (although I've heard that there is a carrier lock for the first number of months [I think 9 months] before you can activate your US Pixel 2 in another country)?
And so, the only thing different between Verizon model and any other is only the bootloader? As you can supposedly activate the VZ model in other networks (not exclusively the use of Google's model) and/or it's not like you can't use/activate Google's model on Verizon's network?
...Outside of Verizon's exclusive deal with Google, I wonder why Google didn't just advertise is as Locked-Bootloader version and Unlocked-Bootloader version -- other than Verizon pulling the bait-and-switch locking the bootloader of a phone that's initially and naturally unlocked and/or didn't want it advertised that way due to negative connotation...

Verizon may also have it carrier locked. I don't have one and I'm not about to find out either since I steer far clear of Verizon. However, the only difference I can recall between the Google and Verizon P2XL is the bootloader. So if Verizon doesn't also SIM lock the P2XL, then you could buy a Verizon P2XL and use it on AT&T, T-Mobile, or any of their MVNOs like Straight Talk or Cricket just by swapping SIM cards.
Not to put too fine a point on it, but the fact Verizon locks the bootloader at all means you're better off with buying direct from Google, even though the deals are not nearly as significant as with Verizon/Best Buy.
You can get Verizon Motorola devices direct from Motorola. Unlike Motorola, Google doesn't offer the Verizon models in their store. Therefore Google doesn't have to advertise something that only appeals to a select group of owners. As for Verizon, there is no bait and switch here. Bait and switch involves substituting a product for a product the merchant has no intention of selling. Verizon isn't doing that, as all their devices are bootloader locked.

Will Verizon unlock the Pixel?

If you own the phone and there's no balance why can't Verizon unlock it so that I can unlock the bootloader? I have a Tmobile Oneplus 6t as well and I purchased it outright and the TMobile Rep unlocked it for me. Has anyone ever called Verizon to unlock the Pixel?

I've used my pixel on T-Mobile without any issues.
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If you own the phone and there's no balance why can't Verizon unlock it? I have a Tmobile Oneplus 6t as well and I purchased it outright and the TMobile Rep unlocked it for me. Has anyone ever called Verizon to unlock the Pixel?
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slimc84 said:
I've used my pixel on T-Mobile without any issues.
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That is true I am also using the Verizon variante on TMobile but what I'm saying is my TMobile OnePlus 6t came with a greyed out OEM Unlock option. So I called TMobile and told them I want the phone unlocked and they did it. I just had to factory reset the phone and the option was no longer greyed out. So I'm wondering why can't Verizon do the same for the Pixel? I mean I do own the phone out right no finance.

Verizon will not allow the bootloader unlock and I highly doubt any devs are looking into it either.

slimc84 said:
Verizon will not allow the bootloader unlock and I highly doubt any devs are looking into it either.
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That's stupid specially if I own the phone, it's like they still have control over it even though I own it. I guess that's what I get for being impatient and rushing to get the Pixel instead ordering it from Google and waiting on the shipping

I'm in the same boat but to be honest the whole point of a pixel in my opinion is to get a pure Google experience.. I don't have a valid reason to root to be honest. Also my work apps won't work on a rooted phone so might as well be bootloader locked
As I'm in Ireland and bought the 3xl while on a work trip on launch day I'm tempted to see if Verizon might unlock it for me.. really it's not making much difference to me

mackentosh said:
That's stupid specially if I own the phone, it's like they still have control over it even though I own it. I guess that's what I get for being impatient and rushing to get the Pixel instead ordering it from Google and waiting on the shipping
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So please elaborate. You bought the phone from Verizon to use on another network? How and why would you do that? If I wasn't on VZW I'd never get the phone from them... oh wait, did you buy it from BB, i.e. the VZW version on discount? If so you probably need to return it if it's still possible. If not then you are locked forever. Only way is to sell it and buy another. Yes, you own the phone but they own the discount you got from BB and basically you're screwed. Damn that sucks man.

bobby janow said:
So please elaborate. You bought the phone from Verizon to use on another network? How and why would you do that? If I wasn't on VZW I'd never get the phone from them... oh wait, did you buy it from BB, i.e. the VZW version on discount? If so you probably need to return it if it's still possible. If not then you are locked forever. Only way is to sell it and buy another. Yes, you own the phone but they own the discount you got from BB and basically you're screwed. Damn that sucks man.
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When I say I bought it outright I mean no discount, I paid just over $1000 for the pixel 3xl from best buy but it's all good I'll sell it and buy another one from google

Mine unlocked within 10 hours after purchase. I've read that all their phones were locked to Verizon before they're sold to prevent theft.

shawn605 said:
Mine unlocked within 10 hours after purchase. I've read that all their phones were locked to Verizon before they're sold to prevent theft.
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Your bootloader or your sims card,?

Homeboy76 said:
Your bootloader or your sims card,?
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He's talking about the SIM card.

VZW will not and has never unlocked a BL on any phone that had a locked BL. They say it protects their nerwork... More like they hate people hacking their apps and loosing money.
Last unlocked BL they sold was Nexus 6... Correct me, cuz I did zero research on this... Just my cloudy damaged memory
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He's talking about the SIM card.
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Thread: Pixel 3 XL Questions and Answers...
Question: Will Verizon unlock the Pixel?
I thought that's what he meant, I asked for clarification.

As for the bootloader, no they will not. I just moved to Pixel 3 XL after getting an OG Verizon PIxel XL right after launch (actually immediately after the dePixel exploit was published or I would have purchased direct from Google or chose another phone). This same discussion along with the same "it's not fair since I own the device" arguments has been going on for years. Look at Huawei for evidence that bootloader locking is becoming more restrictive and not less. You can only purchase the device outright, and even they have discontinued the bootloader code request system. Eventually an exploit might come around, but maybe it won't. jcase pretty much said the original dePixel find was an accident, and it took another year and a half or so to find another for a phone that was already being replaced. Either take a risk that one will be found knowing that it might never come, or bite the bullet and buy a Google version or a 6T (where even if you get it at full price from T-Mobile you might have to wait to get BL and carrier unlock).

MArtyChubbs said:
VZW will not and has never unlocked a BL on any phone that had a locked BL. They say it protects their nerwork...
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Does it protect their network if I never accept any OTA updates because such updates could fix any exploits that eventually will be used to allow me to root the phone that I bought and own?
I mean, I'm just wondering what they would say/do if a lot of people start telling them point blank that they are going to boycott all security and other updates until they allow BL unlocking.

andy214 said:
Does it protect their network if I never accept any OTA updates because such updates could fix any exploits that eventually will be used to allow me to root the phone that I bought and own?
I mean, I'm just wondering what they would say/do if a lot of people start telling them point blank that they are going to boycott all security and other updates until they allow BL unlocking.
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Easy answer. They don't care about consumer opinion until results are felt. They are concerned with brand, lawsuits , and corporate spending. Look at it this way, this thread was last posted on (by me) over a year ago, and there hasn't even been a sniff of an exploit or getting Big Red to change even once.

Once, a long time ago, Verizon carried bootloader unlockable phones. My Nexus 6 was from Verizon and it was fantastic. Google made a marketing decision for Verizon to push the Pixel OG exclusively, Verizon forced them to make a varient that could be locked down and full of Verizon crapware, just like every phone on their network. OG, 2, 3 and now 4, sold by Verizon will never get natively unlocked. The only hope would be a temp root solution and being able to toggle the unlock in developers options.
6 years ago unlocked "dev" phones weren't readily available, but Google sells an unlockable version now, with financing if you want, most people that want root just buy that.

mackentosh said:
When I say I bought it outright I mean no discount, I paid just over $1000 for the pixel 3xl from best buy but it's all good I'll sell it and buy another one from google
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Yea sell that for sure. I bought a new unlocked P3XL for 400.00 on Amazon last month.

Sprint Pixel 3Xl, Sprint said bootloader is not locked

Ok so here's the details... I speak to Sprint techs on a regular basis. (Used to work for Sprint many years ago). And according to them it's true that Sprint Pixel 3 and 3XL are not locked in any abnormal way that a simple Fastboot command will unlock them like normal. BUT if you have just purchased the phone and took advantage of the massive discount for leasing the phone , then you will be met with a Greyed out OEM UNLOCK just like Verizon and whoever else is locked. Only way to clear that and be able to switch OEM Unlock to on, is by paying the full remainder of your contract and they will unlock with an OTA. (I actually performed this on my friends 3XL so it's true). The question I'm asking is for people such as myself who didn't wanna cough up $700 , and took the 40% off if you sign up for 18mo lease. ... Is there anyone here who knows of a way to enable the OEM Unlock without Sprint Sim Unlocking it first?? The screen will tell you that "this option is unavailable on Network locked devices, consult your provider" ... Like is there a Z3x box, or Octoplus Box that can remove the network lock to flip that toggle? Fastboot will not accept any FLASH command without it being enabled. Or does someone know of a Shortcut master-style exploit to get me in the menu with the option being available?? Or hell is there a dirty network unlock even similar to the Carrier changing exploits from the Samsung phones that were Network locked... I searched here thoroughly and no one has mentioned it. Is there an ENGINEERING file for this phone ... For real .. I know it can be done but that's way above my pay grade.. any hints of a place to look.. something to flash.. I'm up for whatever .. I can brick this phone to **** and walk up to the counter and they will give me a new one.. so I'm not worried of possible errors... 50/50 is good enough success rate of any trick you may know. Thanks in advance

I'll do you one worse .. I had no clue until this evening that pixel 3 xl had more versions than Verizon and Google store . So one came up on one of those selling local apps and I checked to make sure the IMEI started with 99 and was clear.... Both were so this is great right??? Google Store version finally so I go buy it right away ..
I think the private Pyle staredown through the eyebrows before he goes insane in full metal jacket would properly describe my reaction as I find out I just purchased not only a locked bootloader pixel 3 XL but a network locked pixel 3 [email protected]#$%G XL...
I swear I'm done trying to pick through the different versions of Google's phones ... Just pony up the money and buy it from Google it's rediculous any other way .... So now what? Well I called Google support and sprint and got the usual go @#$® yourself run around ... So it's on me but a hard way to find out there are now network locked pixels out there ...... I had no idea and I follow this stuff much more than I should

I'll do you one worse .. I had no clue until this evening that pixel 3 xl had more versions than Verizon and Google store . So one came up on one of those selling local apps and I checked to make sure the IMEI started with 99 and was clear.... Both were so this is great right??? Google Store version finally so I go buy it right away ..
I think the private Pyle staredown through the eyebrows before he goes insane in full metal jacket would properly describe my reaction as I find out I just purchased not only a locked bootloader pixel 3 XL but a network locked pixel 3 [email protected]#$%G XL...
I swear I'm done trying to pick through the different versions of Google's phones ... Just pony up the money and buy it from Google it's rediculous any other way .... So now what? Well I called Google support and sprint and got the usual go @#$® yourself run around ... So it's on me but a hard way to find out there are now network locked pixels out there ...... I had no idea and I follow this stuff much more than I should

Unfortunately since it is a server side check/OTA to enable it there is no method currently to unlock the BL.
Been messing around with the Big Red version for a while now with no luck yet.....
Pixel 3 XL, haven't crashed it, YET

FernBch said:
Unfortunately since it is a server side check/OTA to enable it there is no method currently to unlock the BL.
Been messing around with the Big Red version for a while now with no luck yet.....
Pixel 3 XL, haven't crashed it, YET
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the sprint versions are abit different.. i was at sprint earlier snd checked em out.. the sprint p3xl says on the switch that it cannot be unlocked on carrier locked device or something rather..
vs. vzw i think says more along lines of connect to internet or contact carrier..
so maybe spr will get lucky and its tied to sim unlock vs. verizon being tied to imei?
also the spr versions have esim enabled too so they also got that goin for em at least

You could be right there. Unless the device is paid in full Sprint won't carrier unlock it, I think. At least that was how it was a few years back when I had Sprint.
Pixel 3 XL, haven't crashed it, YET

Well in the Sprint store they are setup so you can't mess with a bunch of stuff. I'm about to get one if y'all haven't done it yet.
Edit: So i got mine and its locked to sprint which is fine but i have to have it active for 50 days even though its not leased and technically not sprint's device. they have a promotion for a free line for employees for 12mo's so its just sitting. i got the pixel 4 and i like the 3xl better so im just testing the pixel 4 on my line but ill probably just switch back. too bad the pixel 4 is already bootloader unlocked.

Alright so I have the answers to everyone's question regarding the oem unlock. If you can get the carrier unlock completed you can oem unlock the phone. The downside is that there is some known issue and it requires Google to unlock it. I was working with Sprint for over 2 hours and then while on the phone with Sprint I did the chat with Google. It took 2 days and it just unlocked. I'm not sure if you need to have Sprint push the unlock first or what but that's it. Google did say there was a known issue on their end so this isn't something that's instant at the moment. Hopefully that helps everyone and I've explained everything.

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Alright so I have the answers to everyone's question regarding the oem unlock. If you can get the carrier unlock completed you can oem unlock the phone. The downside is that there is some known issue and it requires Google to unlock it. I was working with Sprint for over 2 hours and then while on the phone with Sprint I did the chat with Google. It took 2 days and it just unlocked. I'm not sure if you need to have Sprint push the unlock first or what but that's it. Google did say there was a known issue on their end so this isn't something that's instant at the moment. Hopefully that helps everyone and I've explained everything.
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@cruckus
How did you set this process in motion? Does Sprint open a ticket with Google or something?

cruckus said:
Alright so I have the answers to everyone's question regarding the oem unlock. If you can get the carrier unlock completed you can oem unlock the phone. The downside is that there is some known issue and it requires Google to unlock it. I was working with Sprint for over 2 hours and then while on the phone with Sprint I did the chat with Google. It took 2 days and it just unlocked. I'm not sure if you need to have Sprint push the unlock first or what but that's it. Google did say there was a known issue on their end so this isn't something that's instant at the moment. Hopefully that helps everyone and I've explained everything.
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I have a sprint pixel 3xl that I recently sim unlocked. The text below the greyed out oem unlock option previously said "unavailable on carrier locked devices", while it now says "please connect to wifi or contact your carrier". I am on Android 12 beta 2 and the carrier unlock was confirmed after a recent update form beta 1. Still can't unlock the Bootloader.

Question Rooting after Switching Carriers?

@roirraW "edor" ehT This might be up your alley
I just switched from Verizon to T-Moble.
It was a no-brainer.
$280/mo for 2 lines and my iPad to 90$/mo for 3 lines + $16/mo for a new Samsung S22 for my oldest kid and a free A13 for my youngest, unlimited everything. (I have to keep the iPad on VZW).
No 5G from VZW to full 5G about everywhere I go.
And T-Mob is paying off my P6P.
SO, once the pay-off goes through and I'm rid of the VZW handcuffs, can I root this thing?

I'm not the big man, but I think the answer is yes.
Welcome to Team Magenta and have fun rooting! I switched to T-Mo from Verizon a few years back for the same exact reason. Much cheaper prices; much better reception in my area; and the freedom to unlock the bootloaders of my paid off phones (though having them be fully paid off wasn't a requirement for me with T-Mobile in the past - so I'm not positive that this is a requirement now).
Nowadays, I just bite the bullet and buy my phones straight from Google so that I can customize right away without having to pay it off fully first if this is truly a requirement now. But, if you stay with T-Mo for a while, you'll presumably start doing the same thing, haha.
Best of luck friend!
*Edit* - was the phone purchased directly from VZW? If so, then perhaps they have some custom restrictions on the image flashed on their phones that restricts the bootloader unlock option. But heck, with Pixels I imagine this restriction may be lifted once you download and install a T-Mo build update with a T-Mo SIM inserted.

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@roirraW "edor" ehT This might be up your alley
I just switched from Verizon to T-Moble.
It was a no-brainer.
$280/mo for 2 lines and my iPad to 90$/mo for 3 lines + $16/mo for a new Samsung S22 for my oldest kid and a free A13 for my youngest, unlimited everything. (I have to keep the iPad on VZW).
No 5G from VZW to full 5G about everywhere I go.
And T-Mob is paying off my P6P.
SO, once the pay-off goes through and I'm rid of the VZW handcuffs, can I root this thing?
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I'm not the big man either (), but I will say that if you bought the Verizon "model", then you will never be able to unlock your bootloader (unless someone miraculously finds a method) and thus never be able to root it, no matter how much carrier switching you do.
If you didn't buy the Verizon "model", then we'll wait for the big man to give us his wise and unadulterated opinion

No, you won't be able to unlock unless you have the global or get it through T-Mobile
Verizon model: Bootloader cannot be unlocked even after sim unlock.
T-Mobile model: Bootloader unlock after sim unlock
AT&T model: I forget if it can be unlocked

Bummer....

NippleSauce said:
I'm not the big man, but I think the answer is yes.
Welcome to Team Magenta and have fun rooting! I switched to T-Mo from Verizon a few years back for the same exact reason. Much cheaper prices; much better reception in my area; and the freedom to unlock the bootloaders of my paid off phones (though having them be fully paid off wasn't a requirement for me with T-Mobile in the past - so I'm not positive that this is a requirement now).
Nowadays, I just bite the bullet and buy my phones straight from Google so that I can customize right away without having to pay it off fully first if this is truly a requirement now. But, if you stay with T-Mo for a while, you'll presumably start doing the same thing, haha.
Best of luck friend!
*Edit* - was the phone purchased directly from VZW? If so, then perhaps they have some custom restrictions on the image flashed on their phones that restricts the bootloader unlock option. But heck, with Pixels I imagine this restriction may be lifted once you download and install a T-Mo build update with a T-Mo SIM inserted.
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Yeah, bought from VZW. I should sell it and just buy one from Google and start over

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@roirraW "edor" ehT This might be up your alley
SO, once the pay-off goes through and I'm rid of the VZW handcuffs, can I root this thing?
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Sorry that I missed all the action - I was busy today. Well, actually I was very busy yesterday, which made me very lazy today. Indeed, just as the others said, a Verizon variant of anything will never be able to have the bootloader unlocked.
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I'm not the big man
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LOL!
NippleSauce said:
*Edit* - was the phone purchased directly from VZW? If so, then perhaps they have some custom restrictions on the image flashed on their phones that restricts the bootloader unlock option. But heck, with Pixels I imagine this restriction may be lifted once you download and install a T-Mo build update with a T-Mo SIM inserted.
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The firmware is the same between Verizon variants and all others - besides the few times that Google releases one or more carrier-specific versions of firmware but in the end they always consolidate them into one single for all variants. I think that what most people believe is that what determines whether a phone can be bootloader unlocked or not is the IMEI. Sometimes it's the case that with a direct from Google phone won't be able to have OEM Unlocking enabled until you get on the internet for some usually small amount of time. I think it's the OS calling home and checking the IMEI, and if the IMEI is one that was sold to Verizon, they never allow you to toggle the OEM Unlocking.
Lughnasadh said:
I'm not the big man either (), but I will say that if you bought the Verizon "model", then you will never be able to unlock your bootloader (unless someone miraculously finds a method) and thus never be able to root it, no matter how much carrier switching you do.
If you didn't buy the Verizon "model", then we'll wait for the big man to give us his wise and unadulterated opinion
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LOL!!!

roirraW edor ehT said:
Sorry that I missed all the action - I was busy today. Well, actually I was very busy yesterday, which made me very lazy today. Indeed, just as the others said, a Verizon variant of anything will never be able to have the bootloader unlocked.
LOL!
The firmware is the same between Verizon variants and all others - besides the few times that Google releases one or more carrier-specific versions of firmware but in the end they always consolidate them into one single for all variants. I think that what most people believe is that what determines whether a phone can be bootloader unlocked or not is the IMEI. Sometimes it's the case that with a direct from Google phone won't be able to have OEM Unlocking enabled until you get on the internet for some usually small amount of time. I think it's the OS calling home and checking the IMEI, and if the IMEI is one that was sold to Verizon, they never allow you to toggle the OEM Unlocking.
LOL!!!
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I can get one unlocked from Google right now for 799 and I don’t know why I didn’t think of this in the first place but I can finance it for 40 bucks a month for two years and then I’ll probably just end up paying it off at some point along the way.
You know, when you’ve been with Verizon for so long you just become resigned to the fact that what you once took for granted in the beginning of all this, rooting, is just not gonna happen anymore.
Now that I’ve left Verizon I’m feeling the old twinges of wanting to get back into it and in the last seven or eight years, since my Nexus 6, everything his grown outside of my realm. It’s like a leaky faucet, “once it starts drippin’, you can’t turn it off” lol

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I can get one unlocked from Google right now for 799 and I don’t know why I didn’t think of this in the first place but I can finance it for 40 bucks a month for two years and then I’ll probably just end up paying it off at some point along the way.
You know, when you’ve been with Verizon for so long you just become resigned to the fact that what you once took for granted in the beginning of all this, rooting, is just not gonna happen anymore.
Now that I’ve left Verizon I’m feeling the old twinges of wanting to get back into it and in the last seven or eight years, since my Nexus 6, everything his grown outside of my realm. It’s like a leaky faucet, “once it starts drippin’, you can’t turn it off” lol
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Good luck with the path you choose!

roirraW edor ehT said:
Good luck with the path you choose!
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Sound advice for everything we do in life. Now having weighed my options, it seems silly to finance a Pixel 6 Pro, when I just had mine paid off, especially when we are getting closer to the Pixel 7 which will probably ship with Android 13 or receive it shortly after its release