just what the title says. they have a buy 1 get 1 free deal going on was wondering if it is worth it. it also comes with google home and chromecast. i would probably sell those on ebay though.
currently i have a nexus 6 and am running 8.1. i wouldnt mind updating but what good is the phone if the bootloader is locked.
kidhudi said:
just what the title says. they have a buy 1 get 1 free deal going on was wondering if it is worth it. it also comes with google home and chromecast. i would probably sell those on ebay though.
currently i have a nexus 6 and am running 8.1. i wouldnt mind updating but what good is the phone if the bootloader is locked.
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Asked and answered a gabillion times.
No
Get it from verizon and delete your bookmarks to XDA.
Ok. Sorry for asking
Thanks for the input
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Ok. Sorry for asking
Thanks for the input
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Get it from Google if you can.
kidhudi said:
just what the title says. they have a buy 1 get 1 free deal going on was wondering if it is worth it. it also comes with google home and chromecast. i would probably sell those on ebay though.
currently i have a nexus 6 and am running 8.1. i wouldnt mind updating but what good is the phone if the bootloader is locked.
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Getting a VZW locked device, maybe not worth it if you are dead set on flashing custom stuff.
Getting TWO 2 XLs (selling one for $300-400) probably worth it unless you're dead set on flashing custom stuff.
Google offers the same financing that VZW has (24mo 0% interest) and for roughly the same monthly $$$ you'd pay at VZW, you get an unlocked 2 XL!
If you get the Google unlocked version, which can be used on Verizon's network; it's ABSOLUTELY worth it.
I took the Verizon sim card from my unlocked 6P and dropped it in my unlocked 2 XL, no issues!
The 2 XL was a great device before I rooted, flashed a cust kernel, and cust rom on it, and it's just that much better now that I'm running all the custom stuff.
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Ok. Sorry for asking
Thanks for the input
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Dont be sorry for asking.
That wasnt my intent.
I was trying to emphasize the futility of the verizon phone.
Yeah. I want to switch from VZW. I would have had the phone in my hand by now if it wasn't for the locked bootloader. I am just looking to the future. I have my Nexus
6 obviously unlocked running Android Oreo. With a locked bootloader once the official OTAs are done. Then your screwed. From Google play store the deal isn't as good. Sucks
I just bought a Verizon pixel 2 XL and unlocked the bootloader. I'm currently running magisk 16.4 / elementalx kernel / nitrogenOS and love it.
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I just bought a Verizon pixel 2 XL and unlocked the bootloader. I'm currently running magisk 16.4 / elementalx kernel / nitrogenOS and love it.
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You are likely to receive many inquiries as to how you unlocked the Verizon version. So be ready!
kidhudi said:
just what the title says. they have a buy 1 get 1 free deal going on was wondering if it is worth it. it also comes with google home and chromecast. i would probably sell those on ebay though.
currently i have a nexus 6 and am running 8.1. i wouldnt mind updating but what good is the phone if the bootloader is locked.
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its still a great device with a locked bootloader.
You're asking the wrong questions however.
If you dont have any intentions of rooting/custom ROM'ing or things of the like, there is no reason not to buy it from Verizon.
If you plan to, or even think you might want to do something custom with the device, then it would be better to buy from Google.
An unlockable bootloader for most people is irrelevant. Tech minded people (like those here on XDA) place a premium on it.
Whether or no it is 'worth' anything is only something you can answer.
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its still a great device with a locked bootloader.
You're asking the wrong questions however.
If you dont have any intentions of rooting/custom ROM'ing or things of the like, there is no reason not to buy it from Verizon.
If you plan to, or even think you might want to do something custom with the device, then it would be better to buy from Google.
An unlockable bootloader for most people is irrelevant. Tech minded people (like those here on XDA) place a premium on it.
Whether or no it is 'worth' anything is only something you can answer.
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thanks for the feedback. an unlocked bootloader is a pretty big deal for me. i missed the 2 for 1 deal and ended up getting the google version. probably better off that way i dont want to be married to verizon for another 2 years
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I just bought a Verizon pixel 2 XL and unlocked the bootloader. I'm currently running magisk 16.4 / elementalx kernel / nitrogenOS and love it.
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How did you unlock the bl on a VZW Pixel 2 XL?
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You are likely to receive many inquiries as to how you unlocked the Verizon version. So be ready!
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kidhudi said:
thanks for the feedback. an unlocked bootloader is a pretty big deal for me. i missed the 2 for 1 deal and ended up getting the google version. probably better off that way i dont want to be married to verizon for another 2 years
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You're mixing up unlocked bootloader and sim unlocked. Verizon and Google pixels are both sim unlocked.
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You're mixing up unlocked bootloader and sim unlocked. Verizon and Google pixels are both sim unlocked.
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no i am not. i just pointed out i didnt opt for the "deal" from verizon that mandates a new 2 year contact. and a locked vzw variant.
See glad I've read up last few days..I can't get financed through Google.. so stuck going to Verizon to get the pixel XL 2...I've owned the nexus 4,6 and 6p...love google phones..but I'm a hardcore custom fan...I've read how people have unlocked the bootloader with the Verizon model..even had a store rep tell me he unlocked his bootloader..yes bootloader..not sim unlock..I really think it's bs anyone can even stop you from unlocking it....where there is a will there is a way tho..if I want the phone I gotta figure it out..been reading a lot it's almost impossible to do..but I have a few ideas can't hurt to try..
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See glad I've read up last few days..I can't get financed through Google.. so stuck going to Verizon to get the pixel XL 2...I've owned the nexus 4,6 and 6p...love google phones..but I'm a hardcore custom fan...I've read how people have unlocked the bootloader with the Verizon model..even had a store rep tell me he unlocked his bootloader..yes bootloader..not sim unlock..I really think it's bs anyone can even stop you from unlocking it....where there is a will there is a way tho..if I want the phone I gotta figure it out..been reading a lot it's almost impossible to do..but I have a few ideas can't hurt to try..
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You'll be a rock star if you can pull it off. Best of luck bruh! ??
I have an opportunity to pick up a Verizon 2 XL for $200. Only known issue is that the back left corner is shattered. I read you can replace that for under $20.
Screen is fine.
Do you think it would be worth picking it up as an intermediary and in a couple of months invest it towards a Google edition 2 XL (after repairing it)?
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I have an opportunity to pick up a Verizon 2 XL for $200. Only known issue is that the back left corner is shattered. I read you can replace that for under $20.
Screen is fine.
Do you think it would be worth picking it up as an intermediary and in a couple of months invest it towards a Google edition 2 XL (after repairing it)?
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I would take it, put vzw insurance on it and get it replaced....is that wrong?
Really a big turn off for me...I'm not approved from Google to finance..but want the pixel XL 2...so..got me looking at other phones..does anyone know of any Verizon phones that can be bootloader unlocked..or at least rooted..I'd rather custom roms but root is a have to have...( Unlimited tethering)... looking at the note 8, s8+ or the Moto force 2?.. thanks for the help..if there was a way to bypass tethering restrictions on the Verizon pixel XL 2
Id get it in a heartbeat... thanks
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Really a big turn off for me...I'm not approved from Google to finance..but want the pixel XL 2...so..got me looking at other phones..does anyone know of any Verizon phones that can be bootloader unlocked..or at least rooted..I'd rather custom roms but root is a have to have...( Unlimited tethering)... looking at the note 8, s8+ or the Moto force 2?.. thanks for the help..if there was a way to bypass tethering restrictions on the Verizon pixel XL 2
Id get it in a heartbeat... thanks
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I believe the HTC phones are unlockable through their sunshine app. Jcase and Beaups.
Related
...seems like a dumb question, right? Here's the deal, I broke my (Google) 64GB Nexus 6 last Saturday night... sucks, but I have insurance! So I file a claim, pay $150, and Asurion sends me a Verizon (my carrier) 32GB Nexus 6... I called them up and they told me that's all they had. After talking to a couple of people and me saying I would cancel the insurance if they couldn't give me the same device I insured, they mentioned they could give me a Pixel XL 32GB!!! Having missed the original preorders I've been trying like hell to preorder a Pixel XL with no luck, so this was a no brainer (although it sucks that it's only 32GB).
Fast forward a day, and I have my phone!!! But there are a couple of things off about it. For one, it doesn't say Verizon anywhere on the box, phone, within Android, boot up... nothing! There are also zero preloaded Verizon apps?! I thought they would at least put "MyVerizon" on it... So is there anywhere I can look to determine which version I have? Another thing, I've had a hell of a time getting it activated on Verizon. I had switched back to my old S4 after breaking my Nexus 6, and had to go to Verizon to get a micro-sim card. Nobody at Verizon has been able to register the phone with the new SIM card, after hours on hold I gave up and just cut my S4 micro-sim card - problem solved... but why couldn't Verizon activate the phone? That might be unrelated, just something I was thinking about.
One last note, I already ran depixel8 (which succeeded) on the phone. I'm not sure what would happen if this was done on a non-verizon version... but I can't test this by unlocking the bootloader since that's already done!
TLDR: Got Pixel XL from Asurion to replace my broken Nexus 6 I had previously used on Verizon, and I can't find any mention of Verizon anywhere! Did they send me a Google version of Verizon version?
Verizon versions aren't branded.
It was all just an illusion
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Verizon versions aren't branded.
It was all just an illusion
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Cool, so how do I know?
bought mine at a verizon store and it came the same way so your good lol
If you have a Verizon phone your build# will be NDE63P
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If you have a Verizon phone your build# will be NDE63P
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Then whats the Google phone on? L? jcase already commented on this and said that P is the current version regardless if it is from Verizon or Google.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/pix...xel-xl-unlocking-discussions-t3484497/page109
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If you have a Verizon phone your build# will be NDE63P
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I don't think this necessarily means that it is a Verizon model since I have a Google Store purchased Pixel XL with the same build number.
My best guess to see if the phone is a Verizon model is if the bootloader is not unlockable.
Is the toggle in settings to allow bootloader unlocking grey or can you toggle it?
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imnuts said:
Is the toggle in settings to allow bootloader unlocking grey or can you toggle it?
Sent from my Pixel XL
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I cannot toggle it (and couldn't before unlocking it either). Is this really the only sign that the phone is a Verizon? Other than the boatloader (which was easily fixed) I guess Verizon deserves props for not screwing with the device! Or Google deserves props for not letting Verizon screw with it, lol.
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I cannot toggle it (and couldn't before unlocking it either). Is this really the only sign that the phone is a Verizon? Other than the boatloader (which was easily fixed) I guess Verizon deserves props for not screwing with the device! Or Google deserves props for not letting Verizon screw with it, lol.
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Another thing you can do is look in "My Verizon" and see if it shows up as "Other Device" or Pixel XL. Other device would indicate a play store device which I highly doubt that they sent you.
Another thing you could do is install an app on the play store. When the drop down shows up it will say Verizon Google Pixel XL.
When I sign in to my Verizon account on my laptop, it lists my Google Pixel as: PIXEL NON-VZW.
DracoDan said:
...seems like a dumb question, right? Here's the deal, I broke my (Google) 64GB Nexus 6 last Saturday night... sucks, but I have insurance! So I file a claim, pay $150, and Asurion sends me a Verizon (my carrier) 32GB Nexus 6... I called them up and they told me that's all they had. After talking to a couple of people and me saying I would cancel the insurance if they couldn't give me the same device I insured, they mentioned they could give me a Pixel XL 32GB!!! Having missed the original preorders I've been trying like hell to preorder a Pixel XL with no luck, so this was a no brainer (although it sucks that it's only 32GB).
Fast forward a day, and I have my phone!!! But there are a couple of things off about it. For one, it doesn't say Verizon anywhere on the box, phone, within Android, boot up... nothing! There are also zero preloaded Verizon apps?! I thought they would at least put "MyVerizon" on it... So is there anywhere I can look to determine which version I have? Another thing, I've had a hell of a time getting it activated on Verizon. I had switched back to my old S4 after breaking my Nexus 6, and had to go to Verizon to get a micro-sim card. Nobody at Verizon has been able to register the phone with the new SIM card, after hours on hold I gave up and just cut my S4 micro-sim card - problem solved... but why couldn't Verizon activate the phone? That might be unrelated, just something I was thinking about.
One last note, I already ran depixel8 (which succeeded) on the phone. I'm not sure what would happen if this was done on a non-verizon version... but I can't test this by unlocking the bootloader since that's already done!
TLDR: Got Pixel XL from Asurion to replace my broken Nexus 6 I had previously used on Verizon, and I can't find any mention of Verizon anywhere! Did they send me a Google version of Verizon version?
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Reboot the phone to bootloader. Issue command "fastboot OEM getcid" that will tell for sure what do you have.
jamexman said:
Reboot the phone to bootloader. Issue command "fastboot OEM getcid" that will tell for sure what do you have.
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Yay, a definitive answer, thanks!!!
The back story here is interesting...
There are so many refurbs this soon in the game that Google is already letting Asurion have them... AND, they can use them to replace other brands of phones.
The flickering screens and maybe BT issues seem to be racking up some casualties. Meanwhile many of us have been waiting near a month for XL 128's
So much blood at the bleeding edge.
Hmm I have a Verizon version but yet the unlock isn't greyed out and I'm able to enable it....
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Yay, a definitive answer, thanks!!!
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You're welcome. What did the command tell you?
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evobyte said:
Hmm I have a Verizon version but yet the unlock isn't greyed out and I'm able to enable it....
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More than likely... You got a free for review phone no? Been discussed before...
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Hey fellas,
I literally just got my s8+ from Verizon. I am still within my period for about 12 more days to swap this out for a different phone.
Simple question is this: I know root is out for the s8+ but no bootloader hack yet. Does anybody think there is a better chance the pixel 2 will get the bootloader hacked before the s8+? (It's been out for a while now, I don't think it's going to happen to be honest)...
I don't think that the bootloader may get cracked on the Verizon Pixel 2/Xl. However, you will get updated for 3 yrs, that's enough for me to switch.
Hell-Razor said:
Hey fellas,
I literally just got my s8+ from Verizon. I am still within my period for about 12 more days to swap this out for a different phone.
Simple question is this: I know root is out for the s8+ but no bootloader hack yet. Does anybody think there is a better chance the pixel 2 will get the bootloader hacked before the s8+? (It's been out for a while now, I don't think it's going to happen to be honest)...
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You will not get lucky with an unlockable BL. Next question?
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Scottay5150 said:
You will not get lucky with an unlockable BL. Next question?
Sent from the UnderWorld via Pixel XL. [emoji12]
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This forum really needs to clean out the trolls.
Hell-Razor said:
This forum really needs to clean out the trolls.
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Reality is, if you have a Verizon 2 XL chances of ever having a bootloader unlock exploit is near 0%.
If you have a Google 2 XL chances are 100%.
Hell-Razor said:
Hey fellas,
I literally just got my s8+ from Verizon. I am still within my period for about 12 more days to swap this out for a different phone.
Simple question is this: I know root is out for the s8+ but no bootloader hack yet. Does anybody think there is a better chance the pixel 2 will get the bootloader hacked before the s8+? (It's been out for a while now, I don't think it's going to happen to be honest)...
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It doesn't matter it's a Verizon phone either way the bootloader is locked like fort Knox. I ordered the Google branded unlocked version for this reason alone.
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Andebad said:
It doesn't matter it's a Verizon phone either way the bootloader is locked like fort Knox. I ordered the Google branded unlocked version for this reason alone.
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I may just stick with my s8+. It is a decent phone and there is a working root so far. I would like to compile android though (to be honest I am not sure what you can really do without bootloader access and roms as far as I am concerned).
Explain something to me; if you have Verizon, what possible advantage is there in ordering the Verizon version when you can get the unlocked version for the same price? If you put in your Verizon SIM in an unlocked version, does the bootloader all of a sudden get locked somehow?
beezar said:
Explain something to me; if you have Verizon, what possible advantage is there in ordering the Verizon version when you can get the unlocked version for the same price? If you put in your Verizon SIM in an unlocked version, does the bootloader all of a sudden get locked somehow?
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No, the only difference between the two phones is Verizon locks the bootloader from the factory. Inserting a Verizon sim only triggers the play store to download 3 bloat apps which can be removed. The advantage I guess is that your getting device support / protection / warranty through Verizon in which case you are overnighted a new phone if anything goes wrong and can bring your problem to a local shop vs dealing with Google. Their deals and trade-in programs are much more robust than Google's as well. Bottom line for the average user that doesn't plan on rooting or installing custom ROMs it really makes no difference. All software updates come from Google not Verizon as well with the pixel phones so it makes no difference there.
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Andebad said:
It doesn't matter it's a Verizon phone either way the bootloader is locked like fort Knox. I ordered the Google branded unlocked version for this reason alone.
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Same here!
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beezar said:
Explain something to me; if you have Verizon, what possible advantage is there in ordering the Verizon version when you can get the unlocked version for the same price? If you put in your Verizon SIM in an unlocked version, does the bootloader all of a sudden get locked somehow?
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No it doesn't.
Is this device's bootlooder come unlocked? If not c a.z n it be unlocked?
GDane1 said:
Is this device's bootlooder come unlocked? If not c a.z n it be unlocked?
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At the moment, Verizon bootloaders are locked and at the moment can't be unlocked
They are replacing phones with unlocked versions through verizon warranty replacement, hope this helps if you have any issues with your current device.
Thank you very much for your response to my question take care
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Chance Ill said:
At the moment, Verizon bootloaders are locked and at the moment can't be unlocked
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I have a Verizon pixel 2 xl and I unlocked the bootloader
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How did you manage that?
Intelli69 said:
I have a Verizon pixel 2 xl and I unlocked the bootloader
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SigLover21 said:
How did you manage that?
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Likely that he got lucky and received a replacement that was able to be unlocked because google/verizon messed up. It's actually happened a few times with other members.
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Likely that he got lucky and received a replacement that was able to be unlocked because google/verizon messed up. It's actually happened a few times with other members.
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I bought my VZW Pixel 2 XL from Best Buy.
OEM Unlock
Badger50 said:
Likely that he got lucky and received a replacement that was able to be unlocked because google/verizon messed up. It's actually happened a few times with other members.
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So, I got a Verizon Google Pixel 2 XL with 8.1.0 & Android 9 waiting to download. The OEM unlocking, under developer options is greyed out. So, this phone has no hope for unlocked bootloader?
Any ideas.....
Thanks,
zach
coolbeans2016 said:
So, I got a Verizon Google Pixel 2 XL with 8.1.0 & Android 9 waiting to download. The OEM unlocking, under developer options is greyed out. So, this phone has no hope for unlocked bootloader?
Any ideas.....
Thanks,
zach
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Exchange it for a google version. Other than that, I'm afraid there is no current, reliable, bootloader unlocking method for the verizon variant device.
thanks
Badger50 said:
Exchange it for a google version. Other than that, I'm afraid there is no current, reliable, bootloader unlocking method for the verizon variant device.
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Thanks, you are the 1st reply out of 5 peeps I've questioned about this.... on hour 3 & this learning curve is more like a roller coaster!!!
Last ?.... how does one go about exchanging? Do I contact Google directly? & if so..... Google store?
Sorry for the 2nd bother, just have no other options except list it as 4 parts on ebay.....
zach
been all over Google's Store site, & Verizon's.... I know I've read where people HAVE unlocked this bootloader, one through someone that charges kind of like Sunshine did/does for HTC devices.....
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coolbeans2016 said:
Thanks, you are the 1st reply out of 5 peeps I've questioned about this.... on hour 3 & this learning curve is more like a roller coaster!!!
Last ?.... how does one go about exchanging? Do I contact Google directly? & if so..... Google store?
Sorry for the 2nd bother, just have no other options except list it as 4 parts on ebay.....
zach
been all over Google's Store site, & Verizon's.... I know I've read where people HAVE unlocked this bootloader, one through someone that charges kind of like Sunshine did/does for HTC devices.....
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If you purchased it from eBay, then your in a pickle. I have no idea what their policy is, or if the seller would even consider it. As far as bootloader unlocking it, I'm sure there are some folks that can/will do it for a fee, however, as the saying goes....buyer beware :fingers-crossed:
If "OEM unlocking" is greyed out, that means the bootloader is locked and cannot be unlocked. There is no way to hack a P2XL with locked BL to make it unlockable.
If you bought the P2XL directly from Google Store and you requested the "unlocked" version, then Google sent you the wrong one. Send it back and get the one you purchased.
If you bought it from Verizon store or Best Buy, those devices are *always* bootloader locked (buying directly from Google is the only way to get one with unlockable BL). You could return it but you will pay a restocking fee.
If you bought from an individual, you can try to get your money back. But it will be up to the seller to take it back.
UR Right
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If you purchased it from eBay, then your in a pickle. I have no idea what their policy is, or if the seller would even consider it. As far as bootloader unlocking it, I'm sure there are some folks that can/will do it for a fee, however, as the saying goes....buyer beware :fingers-crossed:
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Your right on that.....!!! Just had my dad throw it up on his Ebay account for a bill $100.... Shame, even the Google Assistant is "OFF THE CHAIN"!!! Never saw what it's like on a Google phone before! I know now it IS the phone I want, & the Pixel 2 XL has dropped dramatically in price. Just make sure NEVER get a Verizon phone!!! If it wasn't for the "SHEEPLE", no way Verizon would last in a free market economy, with the way they cram restrictions down their customers throats....... js smh
zls
I need a device that I can root n ROM. Verizon wireless customer here. Pixel too locked down for my taste . Any suggestions I know the Moto g5 plus was getting a lot of love.
aaronrw said:
I need a device that I can root n ROM. Verizon wireless customer here. Pixel too locked down for my taste . Any suggestions I know the Moto g5 plus was getting a lot of love.
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Everything not Verizon.....
buy a pixel 2 xl off google. buy a used pixel 2 xl and sell yours. #profit
Uh, the Pixel 2 man, you already have the current best Android phone, but you got the wrong version, need to only buy from Google, you bought the red Nazi version from the evil V.
aaronrw said:
I need a device that I can root n ROM. Verizon wireless customer here. Pixel too locked down for my taste . Any suggestions I know the Moto g5 plus was getting a lot of love.
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Verizon locked your phone, and locked you in at the same time. Like others have said you bought the wrong variant of the P2XL. Maybe you feel you were/are forced to buy the wrong variant because you cannot buy an unlocked phone to escape the clutches of the Red Devil, but you would be wrong. Buying a phone subsidized by Verizon (getting the phone up front and paying for it on-contract for 2-3 years) is no different than just financing it from a reputable source. Finance any unlocked phone you like. At that point you are free to stay with Verizon until your contract is up and then go to any other carrier you like. Hardware good. Verizon bad.
What device you guys think is getting the best development at this point?
What device you guys think is getting the best development at this point?
aaronrw said:
What device you guys think is getting the best development at this point?
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Anything 1+ related.
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Anything 1+ related.
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They aren't Verizon compatible. I don't think
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They aren't Verizon compatible. I don't think
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No, they're not. Was just answering the question generically. If your talking strictly Verizon compatible phones, then probably the google version of any pixel device.
aaronrw said:
What device you guys think is getting the best development at this point?
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Pixel 2 XL (Google version, unlocked) maybe not BEST, but as good as anyone else...
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They aren't Verizon compatible. I don't think
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There are exceptions, as VZW did not carry the Huawei 6P but it does work, very well I might add, on their network. The downside of using a non-VZW device on their network is you lose some of the goodies that come with a VZW supplied device (free vzw cloud, asurion insurance, etc).
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No, they're not. Was just answering the question generically. If your talking strictly Verizon compatible phones, then probably the google version of any pixel device.
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Pixel 2 XL (Google version, unlocked)
As a VZW user myself, I found that in order to root / mod any recent device offered by Verizon, you MUST buy from the manufacturer (unlocked).
Google has many offers similar to VZWs payment structure with 0% interest for two years, or you can buy it outright as I did and not mess with payments.
If you're stuck using only the devices offered through a VZW retailer, I don't think you're going to be rooting / modding your device anytime soon.
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They aren't Verizon compatible. I don't think
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I guess it really comes down to your priorities. If you are willing to consider phones not sold by Verizon (but still CDMA compatible) you could start by looking HERE for some ideas. Although being unlock-able is a requirement, it doesn't guarantee dev popularity... so you would need to cross check your top choices here on XDA. Just go into the respective forums and have a look around at the number of ROM's/Kernels, etc. (TWRP/Magisk support is critical, too) for each respective phone. If Android 9.0 and regular functionality and security updates are important, you may find yourself circling back to the Pixel2 again. Prices will drop even more when the P3's hit. If you go this route I strongly recommend you buy directly from Google as your warranty experience will be far superior across the board than if you buy from anywhere else. Financing is available.
Thanks everyone, I got the Verizon edition for half price from Best buy, on payment plan. I'll be looking at Motorola or something like that now. The pixel is great but I miss my themes and ROMs
aaronrw said:
Thanks everyone, I got the Verizon edition for half price from Best buy, on payment plan. I'll be looking at Motorola or something like that now. The pixel is great but I miss my themes and ROMs
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Sell it on swappa. I bought another 2xl on swappa for 560$ you can probably get 450 then only a little bit more to get Google version.
aaronrw said:
Thanks everyone, I got the Verizon edition for half price from Best buy, on payment plan. I'll be looking at Motorola or something like that now. The pixel is great but I miss my themes and ROMs
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Just totally ignoring what everyone has said lol
Gilley said:
Just totally ignoring what everyone has said lol
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U are an idiot
aaronrw said:
U are an idiot
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You buy the wrong version and get mad at the "pixel" for it and when people tell you that you need google version you still just plan on Moto. Anything that comes out of verizon will be locked.
Gilley said:
You buy the wrong version and get mad at the "pixel" for it and when people tell you that you need google version you still just plan on Moto. Anything that comes out of verizon will be locked.
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I'm not buying from Verizon, nor did I say I was. Thanks for your very non insightful posts
aaronrw said:
I'm not buying from Verizon, nor did I say I was. Thanks for your very non insightful posts
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If you're getting the G5 plus you will definitely miss the Pixel. The G5 has middle of the road hardware.
Az Biker said:
There are exceptions, as VZW did not carry the Huawei 6P but it does work, very well I might add, on their network. The downside of using a non-VZW device on their network is you lose some of the goodies that come with a VZW supplied device (free vzw cloud, asurion insurance, etc).
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When you say Huawei 6P do you mean the Huawei built Nexus 6P? If so I'm pretty sure that won't work. Verizon is notorious for not allowing phones that they don't sell to be actived on its network even if the phone fully supports the network. I know for a fact that Verizon won't allow the Nexus 5X on its network. Unless Verizon has changed things since last November.
If you own the phone and there's no balance why can't Verizon unlock it so that I can unlock the bootloader? I have a Tmobile Oneplus 6t as well and I purchased it outright and the TMobile Rep unlocked it for me. Has anyone ever called Verizon to unlock the Pixel?
I've used my pixel on T-Mobile without any issues.
mackentosh said:
If you own the phone and there's no balance why can't Verizon unlock it? I have a Tmobile Oneplus 6t as well and I purchased it outright and the TMobile Rep unlocked it for me. Has anyone ever called Verizon to unlock the Pixel?
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I've used my pixel on T-Mobile without any issues.
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That is true I am also using the Verizon variante on TMobile but what I'm saying is my TMobile OnePlus 6t came with a greyed out OEM Unlock option. So I called TMobile and told them I want the phone unlocked and they did it. I just had to factory reset the phone and the option was no longer greyed out. So I'm wondering why can't Verizon do the same for the Pixel? I mean I do own the phone out right no finance.
Verizon will not allow the bootloader unlock and I highly doubt any devs are looking into it either.
slimc84 said:
Verizon will not allow the bootloader unlock and I highly doubt any devs are looking into it either.
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That's stupid specially if I own the phone, it's like they still have control over it even though I own it. I guess that's what I get for being impatient and rushing to get the Pixel instead ordering it from Google and waiting on the shipping
I'm in the same boat but to be honest the whole point of a pixel in my opinion is to get a pure Google experience.. I don't have a valid reason to root to be honest. Also my work apps won't work on a rooted phone so might as well be bootloader locked
As I'm in Ireland and bought the 3xl while on a work trip on launch day I'm tempted to see if Verizon might unlock it for me.. really it's not making much difference to me
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That's stupid specially if I own the phone, it's like they still have control over it even though I own it. I guess that's what I get for being impatient and rushing to get the Pixel instead ordering it from Google and waiting on the shipping
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So please elaborate. You bought the phone from Verizon to use on another network? How and why would you do that? If I wasn't on VZW I'd never get the phone from them... oh wait, did you buy it from BB, i.e. the VZW version on discount? If so you probably need to return it if it's still possible. If not then you are locked forever. Only way is to sell it and buy another. Yes, you own the phone but they own the discount you got from BB and basically you're screwed. Damn that sucks man.
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So please elaborate. You bought the phone from Verizon to use on another network? How and why would you do that? If I wasn't on VZW I'd never get the phone from them... oh wait, did you buy it from BB, i.e. the VZW version on discount? If so you probably need to return it if it's still possible. If not then you are locked forever. Only way is to sell it and buy another. Yes, you own the phone but they own the discount you got from BB and basically you're screwed. Damn that sucks man.
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When I say I bought it outright I mean no discount, I paid just over $1000 for the pixel 3xl from best buy but it's all good I'll sell it and buy another one from google
Mine unlocked within 10 hours after purchase. I've read that all their phones were locked to Verizon before they're sold to prevent theft.
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Mine unlocked within 10 hours after purchase. I've read that all their phones were locked to Verizon before they're sold to prevent theft.
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Your bootloader or your sims card,?
Homeboy76 said:
Your bootloader or your sims card,?
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He's talking about the SIM card.
VZW will not and has never unlocked a BL on any phone that had a locked BL. They say it protects their nerwork... More like they hate people hacking their apps and loosing money.
Last unlocked BL they sold was Nexus 6... Correct me, cuz I did zero research on this... Just my cloudy damaged memory
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He's talking about the SIM card.
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Thread: Pixel 3 XL Questions and Answers...
Question: Will Verizon unlock the Pixel?
I thought that's what he meant, I asked for clarification.
As for the bootloader, no they will not. I just moved to Pixel 3 XL after getting an OG Verizon PIxel XL right after launch (actually immediately after the dePixel exploit was published or I would have purchased direct from Google or chose another phone). This same discussion along with the same "it's not fair since I own the device" arguments has been going on for years. Look at Huawei for evidence that bootloader locking is becoming more restrictive and not less. You can only purchase the device outright, and even they have discontinued the bootloader code request system. Eventually an exploit might come around, but maybe it won't. jcase pretty much said the original dePixel find was an accident, and it took another year and a half or so to find another for a phone that was already being replaced. Either take a risk that one will be found knowing that it might never come, or bite the bullet and buy a Google version or a 6T (where even if you get it at full price from T-Mobile you might have to wait to get BL and carrier unlock).
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VZW will not and has never unlocked a BL on any phone that had a locked BL. They say it protects their nerwork...
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Does it protect their network if I never accept any OTA updates because such updates could fix any exploits that eventually will be used to allow me to root the phone that I bought and own?
I mean, I'm just wondering what they would say/do if a lot of people start telling them point blank that they are going to boycott all security and other updates until they allow BL unlocking.
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Does it protect their network if I never accept any OTA updates because such updates could fix any exploits that eventually will be used to allow me to root the phone that I bought and own?
I mean, I'm just wondering what they would say/do if a lot of people start telling them point blank that they are going to boycott all security and other updates until they allow BL unlocking.
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Easy answer. They don't care about consumer opinion until results are felt. They are concerned with brand, lawsuits , and corporate spending. Look at it this way, this thread was last posted on (by me) over a year ago, and there hasn't even been a sniff of an exploit or getting Big Red to change even once.
Once, a long time ago, Verizon carried bootloader unlockable phones. My Nexus 6 was from Verizon and it was fantastic. Google made a marketing decision for Verizon to push the Pixel OG exclusively, Verizon forced them to make a varient that could be locked down and full of Verizon crapware, just like every phone on their network. OG, 2, 3 and now 4, sold by Verizon will never get natively unlocked. The only hope would be a temp root solution and being able to toggle the unlock in developers options.
6 years ago unlocked "dev" phones weren't readily available, but Google sells an unlockable version now, with financing if you want, most people that want root just buy that.
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When I say I bought it outright I mean no discount, I paid just over $1000 for the pixel 3xl from best buy but it's all good I'll sell it and buy another one from google
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Yea sell that for sure. I bought a new unlocked P3XL for 400.00 on Amazon last month.