Hi all,
check this thread..
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http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011/01/09/samsung-omnia-7-has-4gb-of-ddr-ram-service-manual-released/#more-18118
4 GB? Sounds way too insanely good to be true. And wouldn't make much sense unless they were planning to launch the exact same device later with access to the
RAM, so they could keep manufacturing costs down while still having a new device.
please dont post tings like this! i had a real hard time choosing between the16gb hd7 and the 8gb omnia 7 ( i live in uk so there is no 16gb omnia 7) in the end i opted for the 8gb omnia 7 but was secretly hoping it had a micro SD slot inside. a teardown revealed that it didnt and so im stuck with 8gb ,, at least its nand memory. how i would love 16gb but your thread got my hopes up only to break my heart again.....only way for 16gb uk omnia is to desolder the 8gb memory and put in a 16gb one? dont suspose anybody knows whatthe 16gb chip is inside the german model?
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UPDATE: Thanks to Fred in the comments bellow who found the answer to this confusing situation. For some totally illogical reason Samsung is listing the Rom and Ram in Gigabites and the iNAND storage in Gigabytes. So 8Gb = 1GB of Rom and 4Gb = 512MB or DDR SDRAM Ram.
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I am confused in 2 version of mobile.
1st 4gb ram 32gb and other 64gb.
32 gb just cost 19k INR and 64gb cost 24k INR.
32gb version is avilable in flipkart but 64gb i cant find(.
I have compared both in website like smartprix and found that 64gb version is tooo better than 32gb though less difference in price.
Comparsion
Example: Less rom ,no flash and few things in 32gb version.
So which is good ,you know where i can buy 64gb version in india.
Advance Many Thankx.
-Dhruv
kiridhruv said:
I am confused in 2 version of mobile.
1st 4gb ram 32gb and other 64gb.
32 gb just cost 19k INR and 64gb cost 24k INR.
32gb version is avilable in flipkart but 64gb i cant find(.
I have compared both in website like smartprix and found that 64gb version is tooo better than 32gb though less difference in price.
Comparsion
Example: Less rom ,no flash and few things in 32gb version.
So which is good ,you know where i can buy 64gb version in india.
Advance Many Thankx.
-Dhruv
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I would get the 32Gb version to save money and be more efficient. With 32g2g of internal storage you get plenty of room and you could always expand the memory to 128 Gb with micro sd card. Try going to flipkart.com, they will be selling it there for you!:thumbup:
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troy5890 said:
I would get the 32Gb version to save money and be more efficient. With 32g2g of internal storage you get plenty of room and you could always expand the memory to 128 Gb with micro sd card. Try going to flipkart.com, they will be selling it there for you!:thumbup:
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Yes i already choosed that long ago but after watching the specs like... it has no Flash and also 1.8 ghz (approx) processor i raised this question.!!
if i am wrong correct me.
Also, any better phone than this with these specs and price ?? if you can suggest.
kiridhruv said:
Yes i already choosed that long ago but after watching the specs like... it has no Flash and also 1.8 ghz (approx) processor i raised this question.!!
if i am wrong correct me.
Also, any better phone than this with these specs and price ?? if you can suggest.
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I say get the LG G4 for an alternative or an Alcatel one touch idol 3.
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Okay, .. LG G4 is upcoming bt too high price for me now. and alactel i will see if its avilable here.
You have 2gb asus version right. cool )
being the better model is 299.00 u.s., go with that one, for 300.00 you really cant get more for the money this week,lol,,steve
kiridhruv said:
Okay, .. LG G4 is upcoming bt too high price for me now. and alactel i will see if its avilable here.
You have 2gb asus version right. cool )
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Yes I have the Ze550ml version which has 2gb of ram and 16 gb of storage.
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hi, i want to buy the zenfone.. but i read that all 4gb medel should packing the Intel Atom Z3580 , with 2.3ghz .
but on sales site, like pandawill or geekbuying, i see the 4gb ram model with Intel Atom Z3560
what is real ?
havlaz said:
hi, i want to buy the zenfone.. but i read that all 4gb medel should packing the Intel Atom Z3580 , with 2.3ghz .
but on sales site, like pandawill or geekbuying, i see the 4gb ram model with Intel Atom Z3560
what is real ?
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There are 3 variants of ZE551ML.
1. 4GB RAM with 2.3 GHz Z3580.
2. 4GB RAM with 1.8 GHz Z3560.
3. 2GB RAM with 1.8 GHz Z3560.
The second variant has been released in India. Flipkart is selling this particular model. Not sure about other regions.
Hope this helps.
Suhas_JS said:
There are 3 variants of ZE551ML.
1. 4GB RAM with 2.3 GHz Z3580.
2. 4GB RAM with 1.8 GHz Z3560.
3. 2GB RAM with 1.8 GHz Z3560.
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Yep, the 2.3GHz model USUALLY costs 50-60€ more than the 1.8GHz (4gig) model.
Suhas_JS said:
There are 3 variants of ZE551ML.
1. 4GB RAM with 2.3 GHz Z3580.
2. 4GB RAM with 1.8 GHz Z3560.
3. 2GB RAM with 1.8 GHz Z3560.
The second variant has been released in India. Flipkart is selling this particular model. Not sure about other regions.
Hope this helps.
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Z3580 has also been released in India and i am using it.. I bought Asus Zenfone 2 (4GB, 2.3Ghz Z3580) from Flipkart only... It is the also mentioned in the Flipkart page (Intel Atom Z3580).... here is the link to the Z3580 phone http://www.flipkart.com/asus-zenfone-2/p/itme6pvuvfsxu5wb?pid=MOBE6PVUTMZSQNHE&ref=L%3A729938417393618866&srno=b_4
Leave it up to ASUS to make it all confusing with 8000 different models of the Zenfone 2. Going to make getting a custom ROM for your specific model a nightmare to figure out.
Several users (myself included) have gotten the 1.8/4GB model from eglobal central (£181). I'm sure there are plenty other sellers of this model. I too was under the impression that you needed to go for the 2.3GHz model to get the extra memory, but no. I didn't want to pay the extra £50-60 for the better CPU so I was glad I stumbled on this middle-of-the-road variant.
To date the 1.8ghz model with 4gb ram is the 551ml model and with 2gb ram is the 550ml model.
the 4gb 1.8ghz model is only available in the 32gb internal storage while the 2.3ghz model is 64gb internal storage.
Seriously though, on Antutu, if this stuff is a must, the 1.8ghz (4gb, cpu 3560) model scores around 40,000 and the 2.3ghz scores around 48,000 due to the better cpu(3580).
I don't see how this would be a nightmare for devs as it seems the roms for the 551ml models is the same....
Mine is 32gb, 4gb ram, 2.3ghz 3580
And guys, couldn't fine a better thread for this but what do you think is the best price/performance model?
How different does 3580 perform against 3560? Do you think it's worth going for 3580?
Or does 4GB make a lot of difference (for 2015, not considering 2016 performance)?
Currently using G3 / 2GB and want a better UI performance and less lag/stutter. Don't care about gaming performance.
Thanks in advance.
1.8 GHz model is just fine
How different does 3580 perform against 3560? Do you think it's worth going for 3580?
Or does 4GB make a lot of difference (for 2015, not considering 2016 performance)?
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I own the Z00AD (32GB ROM, 4GB RAM, Z3560) and it's just fine for me. Gaming performance and multitasking are great! I guess the 4GB RAM is what makes the difference here.
Also the 32GB of storage are no problem either because of the microSD expansion.
I would rather save some money and go for the Z00AD. The software is the same as on the Z00A (64GB, 2.3GHz).
tersagun said:
And guys, couldn't fine a better thread for this but what do you think is the best price/performance model?
How different does 3580 perform against 3560? Do you think it's worth going for 3580?
Or does 4GB make a lot of difference (for 2015, not considering 2016 performance)?
Currently using G3 / 2GB and want a better UI performance and less lag/stutter. Don't care about gaming performance.
Thanks in advance.
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Going by Antutu benchmarks,
3580 with 4gb ram at 2.3ghz = 48000 score.
3560 with 4gb ram at 1.8ghz = 41000 score.
I have both and truthfully the 1.8ghz model is no different in general use.
Up to you if you want the "Best" model out there or not....
88lochi said:
How different does 3580 perform against 3560? Do you think it's worth going for 3580?
Or does 4GB make a lot of difference (for 2015, not considering 2016 performance)?
I own the Z00AD (32GB ROM, 4GB RAM, Z3560) and it's just fine for me. Gaming performance and multitasking are great! I guess the 4GB RAM is what makes the difference here.
Also the 32GB of storage are no problem either because of the microSD expansion.
I would rather save some money and go for the Z00AD. The software is the same as on the Z00A (64GB, 2.3GHz).
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Thanks for the reply mate.
Zenfone 2 just got launched in my country but with an insane pricing.
3 versions with 4GB
Z3560 16GB 405$
Z3580 32GB 480$
Z3580 64GB 555$
Or I can get the Chinese version with Z3560 4GB 32GB for 300$ which is of course without any warranty.
Not sure if it's worth to buy Zenfone 2 while I can grab a new G3 for 405$ with warranty.
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tersagun said:
Thanks for the reply mate.
Zenfone 2 just got launched in my country but with an insane pricing.
3 versions with 4GB
Z3560 16GB 405$
Z3580 32GB 480$
Z3580 64GB 555$
Or I can get the Chinese version with Z3560 4GB 32GB for 300$ which is of course without any warranty.
Not sure if it's worth to buy Zenfone 2 while I can grab a new G3 for 405$ with warranty.
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@ultramag69
Thanks for the numbers but I generally ignore benchmarks, especially when real user experience is concerned.
Telling that both CPUs perform almost identical is encouraging though. Can you compare it to any other popular phones?
G3 is my first Android phone after lumias and I'm somewhat satisfied with its performance with some lags every now and then.
tersagun said:
Thanks for the reply mate.
Zenfone 2 just got launched in my country but with an insane pricing.
3 versions with 4GB
Z3560 16GB 405$
Z3580 32GB 480$
Z3580 64GB 555$
Or I can get the Chinese version with Z3560 4GB 32GB for 300$ which is of course without any warranty.
Not sure if it's worth to buy Zenfone 2 while I can grab a new G3 for 405$ with warranty.
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@ultramag69
Thanks for the numbers but I generally ignore benchmarks, especially when real user experience is concerned.
Telling that both CPUs perform almost identical is encouraging though. Can you compare it to any other popular phones?
G3 is my first Android phone after lumias and I'm somewhat satisfied with its performance with some lags every now and then.
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If you go to youtube there are a heap of comparison videos, usually with flagship devices, which tells you this is a good phone as it's only 1/3 to 1/2 the price.
The reviews are delivered by (mostly) impartial people though they do of course have their favourite devices too....
Thanks for the reply mate.
Zenfone 2 just got launched in my country but with an insane pricing.
3 versions with 4GB
Z3560 16GB 405$
Z3580 32GB 480$
Z3580 64GB 555$
Or I can get the Chinese version with Z3560 4GB 32GB for 300$ which is of course without any warranty.
Not sure if it's worth to buy Zenfone 2 while I can grab a new G3 for 405$ with warranty.
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Wow these are some hefty prices! I would not go with the chinese version as it has no warranty. And G3 vs. the 16GB Zenfone with 4GB of RAM is actually quite a tough decision.
What about the OnePlus One? Is it available in your country and if yes how much is it?
88lochi said:
Wow these are some hefty prices! I would not go with the chinese version as it has no warranty. And G3 vs. the 16GB Zenfone with 4GB of RAM is actually quite a tough decision.
What about the OnePlus One? Is it available in your country and if yes how much is it?
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In Oz I paid $500 for my 64gb 4gb 2.3ghz Zenphone 2 and $350 for the 32gb 4gb ram 1.8ghz Zenfone 2... That's about right....
You need to remember when you pay $00 you are talking US dollars most times and you have to take into account the exchange rate...
I've put G3 price for reference point though. For some reason, Zenfone 2 launched at a fairly higher price compared to other phones/countries.
Most expensive Zenfone 2 is 555$ (USD) compared to 300$ @Amazon. So it's quite un-encouraging to grab it.
And regarding OPO; Turkey is not an official OPO sales country. On top of that, ordering ANY phone is a no-go because if it gets spotted at the customs, it's automatically rejected, no matter what. That's valid for even 100$ Chinese phones.
So we are forced to buy either overpriced official phones or "illegal" ones which are still not cheap (OPO is inbetween 400-450$)
Someone try the new CM 12.1 on the 1.8GHz 4 GB RAM model ? Is it possible to flash it on this?
Thank you in advanced
marcolo76 said:
Someone try the new CM 12.1 on the 1.8GHz 4 GB RAM model ? Is it possible to flash it on this?
Thank you in advanced
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Should be OK as long as its a 551ML model. You should read the Op's post as all the information is there...
Hi, I would like to buy the cheap version (2GB RAM 16GB ROM) but I am afraid not to have a community to help me to "improve" it.
What I need is basically some future update and very important be able to root it.
What do u suggest?
There isn't one
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There isn't one
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Why?
PS: I had to edit it cuz it missed "rooted".
GSM-Arena says the minimum RAM is 3 GB and the minimum storage is 32 GB, max is 4 GB and 128 GB and that's what I relied on. But then somewhere else I saw the specs you mentioned. I know Android hasn't used SD card memory well in the past. Music and apps and DRM-protected downloads were tied to internal memory and so 32 GB of internal memory was a minimum for me. But since Marshmallow those limits on SD storage are (supposedly) lifted and/or debugged.
So, I dunno. Try it, buying from a place that allows returns, and post what happens.
(GSM-Arena Xiaomi Mi Max page: http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_max-8057.php)
e753 said:
Hi, I would like to buy the cheap version (2GB RAM 16GB ROM) but I am afraid not to have a community to help me to "improve" it.
What I need is basically some future update and very important be able to root it.
What do u suggest?
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I have the 2gb version. But I don't understand your question.
Qayin said:
I have the 2gb version. But I don't understand your question.
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Sorry for my english!
I saw a lot of post about Helium and Hydrogen but no one for the 2GB version. I am afraid to buy it and not be able to find a way to root it or flash a new rom (eg Cyanogen)...
e753 said:
Sorry for my english!
I saw a lot of post about Helium and Hydrogen but no one for the 2GB version. I am afraid to buy it and not be able to find a way to root it or flash a new rom (eg Cyanogen)...
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I'm not going to root mines any. But I haven't found any support forums. But I'm sure it'll happen
I would go with the 32 GB version as youâ??ll get 1 extra gig of ram. Miui used quite a bit of it. I run mi max with miui 8 beta. Phone has been on for about a day. And I've got about 600 GB of ram free. I don't really use ram cleaner as it can mess with Androids memory managment. With two gigs of ram I think there will be more apps that get purged from memory i.e worse multitasking. Also the extra storage is kind of sweet.
I would not go for the snapdragon 652. Even though its a beast. Remember that its a bigLittle SoC. So during normal operation the 4x a53 cores will do most of the work. The two extra a72 cores wont really make that much of a difference. Games are still single threaded.. The only motivation is the 4gb of ram and the bigger e-penis.
hello,
i have bought samsung a50 model no sm-a505f/ds a few weeks back. in phone information, it shows it has 6 GB RAM and 124 GB.
I have found a web site demanding it can provide phone information through phone's IMEI number [>>imei.info]
this site says my phone has 4 GB RAM and 64 GB ROM
this information made me a bit confused.
It has 6 gigs of ram dont believe in that site xD
There is a 4gb ram model...