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Operating system/Firmware question

So, as I understand. This phone works similarly in the way the Moto G did in the sense that the Firmware and the actual ROM are seperate?
firmware controlling things in the background and the ROM being front and center?
Theoretically speaking, I could run Lineage 14.1 with HTC MM Firmware AND Nougat firmware? (Obviously not at the same time)
Only reason I ask is I come from a G3 which requires TWRP and all roms to be "Bumped" so things are a bit different (No bootloader unlock)

johnnzey said:
So, as I understand. This phone works similarly in the way the Moto G did in the sense that the Firmware and the actual ROM are seperate?
firmware controlling things in the background and the ROM being front and center?
Theoretically speaking, I could run Lineage 14.1 with HTC MM Firmware AND Nougat firmware? (Obviously not at the same time)
Only reason I ask is I come from a G3 which requires TWRP and all roms to be "Bumped" so things are a bit different (No bootloader unlock)
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If you read the LOS installation instructions you see that it support both MM and N. Supported firmware depends on the rom, though many roms will ask you during installation which firmware you're running and support both.

Tarima said:
If you read the LOS installation instructions you see that it support both MM and N. Supported firmware depends on the rom, though many roms will ask you during installation which firmware you're running and support both.
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So what are the advantages/disadvantages of using either mm or nougat firmwares? Do they effect anything realistically?

johnnzey said:
So what are the advantages/disadvantages of using either mm or nougat firmwares? Do they effect anything realistically?
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Nougat firmware could have more advanced radios for improved signal.
A caution: don't mix Marshmallow and Nougat firmware bits, such as aboot.
I did that and ruined a perfectly good Ten.

michaelbsheldon said:
Nougat firmware could have more advanced radios for improved signal.
A caution: don't mix Marshmallow and Nougat firmware bits, such as aboot.
I did that and ruined a perfectly good Ten.
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So like flashing a marshmallow aboot to a nougat firmware?
If so I wont even be bothering with that stuff.

johnnzey said:
So what are the advantages/disadvantages of using either mm or nougat firmwares? Do they effect anything realistically?
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The Nougat update gave a performance boost.
And staying up to date with firmware is always a good idea. Google is releasing monthly security updates now.

revert to nougat

Hey guys!
I have upgraded to oreo a while ago, but battery doesnt seem to be as good as on nougat. I looked up a few posts but i am not sure which one to believe. Is there a good method on how to go back to nougat?

pidl said:
Hey guys!
I have upgraded to oreo a while ago, but battery doesnt seem to be as good as on nougat. I looked up a few posts but i am not sure which one to believe. Is there a good method on how to go back to nougat?
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I don't see the difficulty, flash whole nougat oos, or for a custom ROM flash a Nougat firmware + custom ROM.

Striatum_bdr said:
I don't see the difficulty, flash whole nougat oos, or for a custom ROM flash a Nougat firmware + custom ROM.
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I thought i have to take care to select right twrp and have to do stuff, but i think ill just flash latest nougat firmware + full stock rom + twrp, and then my custom roms?

pidl said:
I thought i have to take care to select right twrp and have to do stuff, but i think ill just flash latest nougat firmware + full stock rom + twrp, and then my custom roms?
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Latest TWRP, always
If you flash full Nougat OOS ROM no need to flash firmware

Striatum_bdr said:
Latest TWRP, always
If you flash full Nougat OOS ROM no need to flash firmware
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Latest twrp ? I thought the latest is for oreo only?

pidl said:
Latest twrp ? I thought the latest is for oreo only?
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Where did you read ONLY? It's Oreo compatible. That's all. By definition a software is backward compatible except if expressly specified in changelog. Which is not the case here.
You've got all you need. Experiment now.

diff between baseband and bootloader?

I am going to try 4.4 kernel based rom so was wondering about the above question i.e what's the diff between baseband and bootloader or both are used interchangably?
I had updated my baseband before with the zui 3.5 China version, so can i go ahead and install 4.4 kernel based roms?
Also i had installed deodexed zui 4.0.233 and it was working properly

I was in your situation recently.
I was running AiCP 13.1 + Nameless since July. Device was running butter smooth, stable and satisfactorily performance while gaming.
However since last PubG update things took nose dive while gaming. Extreme heating, horrible battery backup. So decided to move on to latest Pie.
My steps,
1. Using QPST/QFIL, installed the stocked ZUI 1.9 Chinese.
Tried to OTA but got server error while downloading ZUI 2.0
2. Downloaded the stock OTA update package of ZUI 3.5
3. Used the OTA update. It took several incremental updates till it settled for ZUI 4.0.199
This made sure I am having latest official baseband.
4. Used my previous boot unlocked image via ADB/Fastboot to unlocked the bootloader
5. Flashed latest TWRP
6. Flashed the Factory to vendor stuff
7. Flashed the latest Treble TWRP
8. Flushed AEX 6.0 + GApps Nano
Devices booted up nicely and now running AEX 6.0 for last 8 hours or so.
Thanks.

NaXal said:
I was in your situation recently.
I was running AiCP 13.1 + Nameless since July. Device was running butter smooth, stable and satisfactorily performance while gaming.
However since last PubG update things took nose dive while gaming. Extreme heating, horrible battery backup. So decided to move on to latest Pie.
My steps,
1. Using QPST/QFIL, installed the stocked ZUI 1.9 Chinese.
Tried to OTA but got server error while downloading ZUI 2.0
2. Downloaded the stock OTA update package of ZUI 3.5
3. Used the OTA update. It took several incremental updates till it settled for ZUI 4.0.199
This made sure I am having latest official baseband.
4. Used my previous boot unlocked image via ADB/Fastboot to unlocked the bootloader
5. Flashed latest TWRP
6. Flashed the Factory to vendor stuff
7. Flashed the latest Treble TWRP
8. Flushed AEX 6.0 + GApps Nano
Devices booted up nicely and now running AEX 6.0 for last 8 hours or so.
Thanks.
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Thanks @NaXal for such simple update guide.. Waiting for ur detailed review of pie..

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Update for Who wants to go to the 4.4 kernel ROMs you need? I have the answer to see

Zui 2.5 confirmed that it is necessary to install roms with kernel 4.4, it does not need zui 3.5 (in my case I had already installed zui 2.5 indiana as my rom and I decided to go for custom roms and today I use them with kernel 4.4 without having to install 3.5 zui per qpst)

I haven't unlocked my device yet.. but I'm planning to flash custom rom. currently I'm using zui 2.5 the official one. So you are saying that I can just 1)unlock my device 2) flash twrp and flash the latest version of aex (pie) without flashing zui 3.5/3.7 via qpst??.. I know your post says it but did you face any problem???.. (I'm new to this)..

Shrey2793 said:
I haven't unlocked my device yet.. but I'm planning to flash custom rom. currently I'm using zui 2.5 the official one. So you are saying that I can just 1)unlock my device 2) flash twrp and flash the latest version of aex (pie) without flashing zui 3.5/3.7 via qpst??.. I know your post says it but did you face any problem???.. (I'm new to this)..
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Friend I just left the aex pie to na bootleggers. Yes you just need to unblock the bootloader and install twrp as a recovery, after that you need to do the following: First install the factory, then watch the twrp treble (reinstall back to twrp) and install rom and gapps and what you want

Shrey2793 said:
I haven't unlocked my device yet.. but I'm planning to flash custom rom. currently I'm using zui 2.5 the official one. So you are saying that I can just 1)unlock my device 2) flash twrp and flash the latest version of aex (pie) without flashing zui 3.5/3.7 via qpst??.. I know your post says it but did you face any problem???.. (I'm new to this)..
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How many errors etc ... none so far. You have to have zui 2.5 Indian to do what I did!
I left aex pie because there is a bug in the download to download anything has to be completely on the page for example I want to download a game and I can not leave it in the background and I can not let the screen erase because the download pauses

If you want to install only nougat based custom roms, zui 2.5 indian baseband is fine. But if you want to use oreo or pie roms, you need to flash at least zui 3.5. I've used oreo roms on zui 2.5 baseband and it gives you Little glitches here and there and offline charging doesn't work.

brother_mouzone said:
If you want to install only nougat based custom roms, zui 2.5 indian baseband is fine. But if you want to use oreo or pie roms, you need to flash at least zui 3.5. I've used oreo roms on zui 2.5 baseband and it gives you Little glitches here and there and offline charging doesn't work.
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Friend here works all up to offline loading (I'm using it on bootleggers Pie)

can i downgrade?

hi everybody i recently purchased this g710em and out of the box i found the pie update so i did install it right away but i am very disappointed coming from an xz2 which was very snappy like realy snappy compared to the g7 and i didn't try oreo yet my request for you guys eas if u any one can hzlo or share his experience:
_can i downgrade to oreo.
-(if yes) is oreo better than pie.
-what is the latest oreo firmware or the most accomplished one.
i really like the audio capabilities and the build quality of the g7 but i cant keep it withe this kind major problem wich lag in the very basic ui. thank you. very much in advance.

If it is rootable then proceed to root and use a non stock rom that is oreo based.
Unless someone has made a stock backup you can restore via twrp.

i did downgraded with lgup to the g710em10s everything seem fine sim card speed no stuttering anymore even while installing 170 app from playstore ram management now i have 1.1 gb free ram while in pie i had only 400mb or 500 mb switching between apps via recent button seem snappier i let guys now about the sot battery.

Can you provide some more details about the procedure. I am complete newbie and couldnt figure out.

Not running pie makes u exposed to som nasty explots.
But a aosp shuld be faster even android 10
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loonycgb2 said:
If it is rootable then proceed to root and use a non stock rom that is oreo based.
Unless someone has made a stock backup you can restore via twrp.
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Whye go thru the jobb with unlock and twrp when u can downgrade with lgup and a kdz

yes u can do it with lg up ,nothing wrongs

Can anyone else confirm that downgrading from Android 9 Pie to Android 8.0/8.1. Oreo is safe?

4imb0t said:
Can anyone else confirm that downgrading from Android 9 Pie to Android 8.0/8.1. Oreo is safe?
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No its not safe.. Your phone is easely exploited wintout security patches