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so I have just recently purchased my note8 and Im still trying to get the hang of it. I notice that I frequently qet message saying that the smart stay can't detect my eyes.
I also notice that I rarely see the eye icon lights up (I assume its there to indicate that the feature is active).and one time, the screen went blank just right after the eye lit up.
maybe, speaking from my limited exp, just maybe, the smart stay works better on devices with smaller display as the variance of the eyes/ face orientation will be much smaller compared to on an 8"device.
While I understand the benefits, the question is how many of you find this feature reliable on this tablet? pls feel free to share your experience on how it performs on smaller devices.
Im thinking I might as well turn it off in exchange for some extra battery life.
thanks / Luke
Can't share any experience using this feature as turning it off was the very first thing I did after purchasing my device
I think the drain should be way too high since it uses the front camera all the time, doesn't it? Anyway, it happens maybe once a week that the display turns off when I'm actually looking at it - at most. And just before the display turning off it dims the screen, so there is still some time to react..
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I find it doesn't work as well in the dark as my GS3 did under earlier firmware and I do often get the icon. But smart stay does work well for me. Unless I'm laying down on my side.
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It checks every 15 seconds of inactivity to see if you're still looking at the screen. If you're not according to your front camera, it'll dim/shut the screen.
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It checks every 15 seconds of inactivity to see if you're still looking at the screen. If you're not according to your front camera, it'll dim/shut the screen.
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Mine only checks a few seconds before the screen is set to time out. Ie. If the screen is set to stay on for 2 minutes, it will check at about 1:50 of inactivity.
I kind of like it except, as posted above, it can be a little iffy in low light.
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I really think it is almost completely useless and simply a waste of battery. I've also disabled lock screen. Nobody touches this tablet but me. When I use it I want it instant on, and when I'm done I turn the screen off myself. I hate my devices trying to decide for themselves when to switch off, and first thing I always TAKE THE POWER BACK!
Thanks for the feedback everyone. l have been trying it off and on but at the end I would have to agree that it doesn't work for me. I cant say how much power saving I get by turning it off but it feels good to know that some resources are relieved for something else.
I use it on my note 2 (8 months now) and note 8.... it doesn't burn much battery.... it works better on the note 2 because your face is exactly straight on the camera... On the tablet.. Usually we hold it slightly at an angle.. So the camera sometimes misses off
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I think its a great (good) feature.
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I think its a great (good) feature.
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yeah I like it too. I usually only use it when reading on the kobo app but it does come in handy.
I really like it but not it is not as good on the note 8 as it is one the other Samsung galaxy devices I have
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After reading this topic, I charged my Note 2 and disabled this feature to try to get more bvattery life.
The difference is like night and day. The screen consumes a lot less power (according to the JB's Battery widget) and the battery lasts much longer.
i've never used this on any of my devices. i always seem to have this odd habit of turning off electronics when i'm not using them
A big NAY for me, I just haven't been able to get it to work even a single time, keep getting the "Smart stay cannot detect your Eyes" message again.
Is it that bad, even in other device like the S3 or S4? S4 has so many features(like the smart pause based on it, makes me think I can't use it properly), any tips how to better the usability(other than the usual ones given by Samsung)?
Does anyone know how to stop the camera app from flashing twice before you take a night pic? I had a note 2 and it was very fast taking night pics. One flash and bam all good. Note 4 you have to wait a couple of seconds.
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Yes, I would like to know this too.
I'd like to know if there's any way we can manually set the shutter and ISO (and I mean beyond the 200 through 800 options.) I'm pretty sure we can't natively which really blows.
There is an app call Camera FV-5. Has a little more available settings. I think 100-1600 ISO. There is a lite version so you can check it out.
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I guess I'm blind but I have never notice that double flash when taking a night picture...
The only time there is a night mode for pictures on Note 4 is when I turn on the flash ? There is no actual night mode like it was in different galaxy models ?
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I guess I'm blind but I have never notice that double flash when taking a night picture...
The only time there is a night mode for pictures on Note 4 is when I turn on the flash ? There is no actual night mode like it was in different galaxy models ?
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So try to take a night shot. The phone flashes once then again right before it snaps pic. Am I doing something wrong?
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The first flash is to aquire focus, the second is to take the picture.
So if you pre-focus the picture you will only get one flash and if you don't it will focus with the first flash and then flash the 2nd time when you are taking the picture. Am I understanding this correctly ?
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The first flash is to aquire focus, the second is to take the picture.
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That sure slows things down. I would like the option to turn that off.
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OK i returned my phone for some other defected reason. Got my new phone and tried the camera with flash. Now it's super fast. My old note 4 would take a second or two to take a flash pic. The new note does it all within a second. Glad I returned it or I would of never known it was a real issue.
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I've noticed mine do both. It seems to depend on the lighting conditions and distance from the subject. It could be my eye playing tricks on me, but it also seems like the more of a delay there is before the second flash, the brighter the flash is. Almost like it needs to build a charge to get brighter like an old-fashioned speedlight.
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I've noticed mine do both. It seems to depend on the lighting conditions and distance from the subject. It could be my eye playing tricks on me, but it also seems like the more of a delay there is before the second flash, the brighter the flash is. Almost like it needs to build a charge to get brighter like an old-fashioned speedlight.
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Ok I have noticed my Note 4 can take the LONGEST time to focus. I mean over a minute sometimes. The only settings I have on is HDR and have video set to record in full HD. Is this normal for the Note 4? Just curious as I am coming up on 30 days and if its got a camera issue I can exchange it at ATT.
Normal !
Lots of people having that issue, me included. I just choose to live with it.
One thing to make it focus properly is pointing it up and tap the screen, then it would focus normal (macro or not).
Hopefully it would be fixed in Lolipop.
Attempted to fix
Hello, I recently got the Note 4 myself about a month ago too. Since I purchased it from Best Buy, I thought I had 30 days to exchange it once I noticed and endured the camera issue. I waited too long. However if you go to the Samsung Repair Center and tell them your issue with your camera they will fix it. However, when they attempted to fix it, they ended up frying my motherboard and I had to wait 3-4 days while they received a new motherboard. Afterward though, everything works perfectly and its instantly focusing. The frying motherboard is probably independent of the camera so its a gamble if you want to risk it, make sure you back up all your data and go as soon as early as possible since all the Samsung Repair Centers get busy fast.
Google: "Samsung Repair Center Locations" and pick, I cannot post links as I just made an account to post this.
This is NOT normal. It should focus right away. The Note 4 is one of the first phones to have moving parts in the lens, and Optical Image Stabilizer (OIS). Apparently there is a problem with it sticking due to many factors, I'm guessing most of it is from shipping since there is no padding in the boxes. Once you load your camera app and it doesnt focus, try slapping the side of the phone, if it focuses then, return it. I had 2 replaced due to this issue. If you can return within your return period, do it. Everyone else can just do a warranty replacement.
I am having the same issue, but am able to correct it relatively quickly by rotating to potrait or landscape depending. Not quick enough for those "moments" necessitating instant response time though.
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I am having the same issue, but am able to correct it relatively quickly by rotating to potrait or landscape depending. Not quick enough for those "moments" necessitating instant response time though.
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Thanks for the info. For the moment, this works.
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I am having the same issue, but am able to correct it relatively quickly by rotating to potrait or landscape depending. Not quick enough for those "moments" necessitating instant response time though.
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That does seem to help me also, at least its faster. Thanks for the tip!!
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Ok I have noticed my Note 4 can take the LONGEST time to focus. I mean over a minute sometimes. The only settings I have on is HDR and have video set to record in full HD. Is this normal for the Note 4? Just curious as I am coming up on 30 days and if its got a camera issue I can exchange it at ATT.
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I am using two phones - one personal (Note 4) and the new BlackBerry Passport for work. I do notice that Note 4 is pretty slow with focusing. The darker it gets the longer it takes to focus. I think it is pretty normal. Just the software is like that.
Happens when you're in auto night mode. To disable just set your ISO
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Happens when you're in auto night mode. To disable just set your ISO
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Nice thanks for the info. I couldn't understand why my note 2 took night pics so much faster. Now that I set the iso to 100 it works fast. What iso are you setting your to?
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Nice thanks for the info. I couldn't understand why my note 2 took night pics so much faster. Now that I set the iso to 100 it works fast. What iso are you setting your to?
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Depends on the lighting. If it's dark I set it a bit higher (600 to 800)... Bright out I set it to 100 or 200. I also really like camera fv-5. Try it out if you want an amazing picture experience
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Thanks for all the tips!! I will be trying them!!
When I first got my Tmobile note 4, camera focused really fast, in a split of a second. Then one day, it suddenly slowed down to several seconds being unable to focus at all every time it started, sometimes up to 10 seconds. I had to tap it, shake it, or rotate it, then it starts to focus.
Today, I tried to reboot into safe mode to see if there's any downloaded app that might be the culprit, and no improvement at all. I started to disable pre-loaded apps, turning off GPS didn't help. But when I disabled/turned off S Health, the camera focused almost immediately just like new. Camera on and off, tested repeatedly, it worked very quick and smoothly. Afterwards, I turned on S Health again, seems the camera keeps working normally. Under low light, I do have to tap the focus ring one or two times to make it focus properly.
My testing results are when S Health is completely disabled, the camera focuses super fast. When S Health is turned on again, it slows slightly by maybe half to one second. I vaguely remember the focusing issue happened sometime after I turned on S Health. I suspect it'll slow down again after S Health has been running for a couple weeks. I'll keep an eye on it.
Maybe S Health keeps holding on some sensors until camera app asks for them, which may take a few seconds. S Health does slow down steadily when more and more data are accumulated. But at this point, I can't say for sure that S Health is the real problem. YMMV.
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My testing results are when S Health is completely disabled, the camera focuses super fast. When S Health is turned on again, it slows slightly by maybe half to one second. I vaguely remember the focusing issue happened sometime after I turned on S Health. I suspect it'll slow down again after S Health has been running for a couple weeks. I'll keep an eye on it.
Maybe S Health keeps holding on some sensors until camera app asks for them, which may take a few seconds. S Health does slow down steadily when more and more data are accumulated. But at this point, I can't say for sure that S Health is the real problem. YMMV.
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It helps.
Thanks
I think I should write a follow-up on this issue.
My previous method of turning off/on S Health worked only temporarily, unfortunately. After a few days, auto focus problem came back again. Basically the symptom is like this: leave the phone sitting on desk for a while, say 10+ minutes to half an hour, the camera app has focus issue that needs 10-20 seconds to start auto-focus, like something suddenly wakes up. When camera app is opened/closed several times in a row non-stop, there's no auto-focus problem.
Also tried the method of modifying /system/build.prop file, didn't work.
Eventually what worked for me is this: my phone has wallet cover, so I tried the method someone suggested, slapping the top back part of the phone against my palm. It took me three tries, once a day slapping 10-20 times. I thought it'll never work in the first two days, but still tried the method. The 3rd day, it suddenly worked. Now the phone auto-focuses properly.
However, there's one issue, initially the phone takes picture just like +1ev is set when the setting is actually at zero, and range of view showing on screen is like shrinking by about 5% on both sides. To take normal pictures, had to manually set to -1ev. What I did next is doing the opposite, slapping the top glass/screen part of the phone against my palm. It took several rounds of back & forth slapping, loosing fast auto-focus then getting it back, etc. Now it looks like it's only at +0.5ev, which is acceptable, photos are slightly brighter than normal. Most probably picture size is also back to original.
So my feeling is maybe there is a hardware defect with Note 4's camera module. Right now, I'm ok with it. But the final solution is probably buying a new camera module and replace it. If you're handy enough, that's not a bad idea. There're youtube videos showing how to replace, but I'd prefer not peeling off the screen from main board. Comments on videos showed how-to not taking off screen when replacing camera.
I have same issue with camera. Since getting the phone it's been so slow.
I finally just found that tapping the screen pretty hard right about where the camera is located jolts it enough to focus quickly.
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I've had the same issue with the camera, it was pretty fast when I first got the phone and it slowed down over time.
Recently I accidentally dropped the phone as it slipped from my hand and the issue seemed to have gone away for good (knock on wood).
My brand new Note 4 (back in November, I think?) couldn't focus close up (& keep it), was slow to gain focus at all, and made me despise the camera. Had to use the warranty service to replace it (didn't get it at a corporate store --got it at an authorized retailer-- and the one I got worked a thousand times better. You have a hardware defect. I found people in the T-Mobile forums I think back then having similar problems. Nobody ever found a "fix" outside replacing the camera or the phone.
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My brand new Note 4 (back in November, I think?) couldn't focus close up (& keep it), was slow to gain focus at all, and made me despise the camera. Had to use the warranty service to replace it (didn't get it at a corporate store --got it at an authorized retailer-- and the one I got worked a thousand times better. You have a hardware defect. I found people in the T-Mobile forums I think back then having similar problems. Nobody ever found a "fix" outside replacing the camera or the phone.
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I had same problem with my note edge, I replace camera module and for last 3 days so fare so good. I think this is hardware problem since I had to shake or tap phone to get my focus to work.
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Nobody ever found a "fix" outside replacing the camera or the phone.
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You're right, the HW is defective. Eventually I bought a new rear camera, and replaced by myself. Easy fix. Worked like a charm, focused in a split second again.
Hi all, i have experienced something strange with my Z5P. When i take a walk on bright sunny day, the screen got bright for about 2-3 minutes, but then it would go down to the dimmest state without any info. I tried to push it up manually but it won't do. so i decided to pocket it for a while and when i'm in shade, i turn it on again and it goes back to normal.. So my question is, is this normal due to 4K display? Or is it a bug in Marshmallow? Because it really makes me hard to read at outdoor after a while. The screen surface sure is hot though.. Anybody have the same experience?
I am still on Lollipop and have the same issue
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Hi all, i have experienced something strange with my Z5P. When i take a walk on bright sunny day, the screen got bright for about 2-3 minutes, but then it would go down to the dimmest state without any info. I tried to push it up manually but it won't do. so i decided to pocket it for a while and when i'm in shade, i turn it on again and it goes back to normal.. So my question is, is this normal due to 4K display? Or is it a bug in Marshmallow? Because it really makes me hard to read at outdoor after a while. The screen surface sure is hot though.. Anybody have the same experience?
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I think this was happening in the other z series like the z1 too. But I think this because the phone would heat up and thus, the phone tries to cool down by doing that. I think there was a fix in the z1 phones but I'm not sure.
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I think this was happening in the other z series like the z1 too. But I think this because the phone would heat up and thus, the phone tries to cool down by doing that. I think there was a fix in the z1 phones but I'm not sure.
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Hmm well my first XZU doesn't have any issue like that, but then again it's a big screen though.. So it's a shame if such issue happens due to heat..
Same thing has been happening to me too. Very very disappointed.
How can we fix it?
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Same thing has been happening to me too. Very very disappointed.
How can we fix it?
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Don't go out into the bright sunlight! Stay in the shade. Having said that, I'm in the sun right now and I have no problems...
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Don't go out into the bright sunlight! Stay in the shade. Having said that, I'm in the sun right now and I have no problems...
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I only go into bright sunlight during lunch time when i enjoy the movie while having my meal.
The display is almost black. My previous phones LG G4, ZUK Z1, Moto X Style, even Note 4 or 3 has no issues.
I paid SGD835 for the phone and it sucks.
Enjoy man since you don't have that problem.
Still no fix for this annoying issue?
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I only go into bright sunlight during lunch time when i enjoy the movie while having my meal.
The display is almost black. My previous phones LG G4, ZUK Z1, Moto X Style, even Note 4 or 3 has no issues.
I paid SGD835 for the phone and it sucks.
Enjoy man since you don't have that problem.
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All phones from any manufactures with snapdragon 810 have an overheating problem (you can thank Qualcomm for that)...since the Z5p uses that SoC as well, this is a protection implemented by Sony so the processor doesn't fry your phone, your phone will get hot already watching a movie as you do under normal conditions, the situation will get even more steamy in full sun (on a hot day, it's fine when it's cooler outside)...the screen brightness is reduced to cool down the phone when it becomes too hot...
With that said there is a way change the value of the minium screen brightness (if you're rooted) to a higher number... If you search there is a thread about this in the Z5p forum already where someone posted where to find what to change...never tried myself by the way as you permanently change that value to some higher so it will be too bright the rest of the time and frankly I think that it will do more harm than good anyway...
Just let your phone cool down and you're good to go again...
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All phones from any manufactures with snapdragon 810 have an overheating problem (you can thank Qualcomm for that)...since the Z5p uses that SoC as well, this is a protection implemented by Sony so the processor doesn't fry your phone, your phone will get hot already watching a movie as you do under normal conditions, the situation will get even more steamy in full sun (on a hot day, it's fine when it's cooler outside)...the screen brightness is reduced to cool down the phone when it becomes too hot...
With that said there is a way change the value of the minium screen brightness (if you're rooted) to a higher number... If you search there is a thread about this in the Z5p forum already where someone posted where to find what to change...never tried myself by the way as you permanently change that value to some higher so it will be too bright the rest of the time and frankly I think that it will do more harm than good anyway...
Just let your phone cool down and you're good to go again...
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Thanks for the tip.
Because of those pros and cons, sony lacks behind. Sadly I am already using iphone 7 plus and there is no such a problem on camera and display.
Still keep my Z Ultra for fun though
thihaz said:
Thanks for the tip.
Because of those pros and cons, sony lacks behind. Sadly I am already using iphone 7 plus and there is no such a problem on camera and display.
Still keep my Z Ultra for fun though
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Whatever floats your boat
If anyone have issue with this(Eveyone should), I have file that let you use 100% of screen brightness, of cause it's adjustable.
Basically let you have full control without Thermal limit kicks in.
Only thing is that the file can not be modified without ROOT...
Let me know
It's call thermal-engine.conf, all you have to do is change all the numbers under "backlight" to 255(Max value).
It works great, I've been using it as is for more than one year.
It's located Root/system/etc/thermal-engine.conf
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Had the same problem, at least think so since I was never able to recover by cooling the Z5 so I am not sure.
Then, I installed Lux Auto Brightness.
The last 72 hours are much better and I was in the sun though not sure if the phone was overheating.
In settings I set Min brightness to 40%, linked ambient light of 0 lux to 60% brightness and let the app do its thing.
So far so good.
Let me know what you think.
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Had the same problem, at least think so since I was never able to recover by cooling the Z5 so I am not sure.
Then, I installed Lux Auto Brightness.
The last 72 hours are much better and I was in the sun though not sure if the phone was overheating.
In settings I set Min brightness to 40%, linked ambient light of 0 lux to 60% brightness and let the app do its thing.
So far so good.
Let me know what you think.
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never tried Lux Auto Brightness...I'll give it a try, but the screen dimming only happens to me on rare occasions while outside under a hot sun, I'll install that app and see next time around when I meet those conditions
Anyone else think the finger print reader is painfully slow when the screen is off?
My honor 5x i literally tap the rear reader and the phone unlocks instantly. On the pixel i have to hold it there for about half a second.
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Mine is super fast. Maybe try resetting your phone?
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It's definitely slower than the OnePlus 3 I had before, but not enough for me to get upset about.
Mine is lightening fast. Unlock my phone even faster than pattern .
Twice as fast as the 6P ever was.
Maybe a little slower than the Axon 7.
Faster than the S7 and iPhone 7.
It's not slow by any means... maybe not the quickest either, but definitely not slow to the point that it matters.
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Twice as fast as the 6P ever was.
Maybe a little slower than the Axon 7.
Faster than the S7 and iPhone 7.
It's not slow by any means... maybe not the quickest either, but definitely not slow to the point that it matters.
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I agree. It's not slow by any means. The one plus three sure does have a faster finger print scanner, but the phone makes the OS feel like it just snorted a line of sugar. The Pixels scanner feels more fluid and has a smooth transition when unlocking the phone.
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Faster then my Honor 5X which was the fastest.
Try putting multiple sets of the same fingers you use. That made a noticeable difference and cut down on unable to read errors. I have maybe 6 different profiles for 2-3 fingers just in case. Just a thought.
Fastest I've experienced.
Mine is also the fastest on any phone I've had. Super quick. Maybe yours is defective.
Mine's pretty fast. Just put any of my registered fingers in any direction on the sensor and ON.
It can be slow after your phone has been left unused for a while - in other words, if your phone has gone into "doze", it may not register your print as fast as it normally does.
But if the phone has not gone into deep doze, print recognition is very fast
The fingerprint reader is instantaneous. It feels slow because you have the animations on. Go to developer settings and disable every animation
Take it back mate, the scanner is almost instant on mine and also works at any angle
Mine is literally instantaneous. Or atleast faster than anyone I have used before.
Im talking from screen off. When the screen is on it is fast i will agree.
But from screen of my honor 5x beats it every time.
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Im talking from screen off. When the screen is on it is fast i will agree.
But from screen of my honor 5x beats it every time.
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Im talking from screen off. When the screen is on it is fast i will agree.
But from screen of my honor 5x beats it every time.
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Im sure, but I am talking screen off to home screen. Its almost instant.
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Unlocking as fast as I can on both phones.
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Anyone else think the finger print reader is painfully slow when the screen is off?
My honor 5x i literally tap the rear reader and the phone unlocks instantly. On the pixel i have to hold it there for about half a second.
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I noticed this immediately after using it for the first time. The 6P scanner opened the phone quicker and also didn't fail ever. Every so often I have to tap the Pixel one again because it didn't read it. And also hangs a few micro seconds before the screen comes on. This only happens after its been sitting a while though. When out of doze it is flawless. I bet doze has something to do with it.