What are the technical reasons that make it impossible to root the Fire TV Stick 2?
I was just wondering the exact same thing. I have a brand new, never been plugged in to anything Gen 2 that I wanna do something with. Everytimei start looking at specs and such I end up at other devices that their is root for Examples Kindle FIre 7" I believe about a week ago it was the Nexus 5 I was led to. I guess I can debloat it or something but thats boring.
According to this page, the Fire TV Stick 2 is impossible to root. @aftvnews is very knowledgeable, so I don't doubt it. I just want to know why it's unrooteable and learn some.
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Were looking at picking up an eReader. I was leaning towards the Kindle Fire vs Nook Color but now read about the Nook Tablet. From what I am understanding the KF is rootable now? And at this time what one would you pick and why? I do not want to buy only to regret the decision later?
Secondly when rooted does a Barnes and Noble app work on it also? And is their any problem with the cloud?
When rooted does the Android Market work also?
What are some of the things I would want to consider when I compare them? Also from what I understand you lose storage space of the cloud when rooted so loose alot of storage is this true?
molitar said:
Were looking at picking up an eReader. I was leaning towards the Kindle Fire vs Nook Color but now read about the Nook Tablet. From what I am understanding the KF is rootable now? And at this time what one would you pick and why? I do not want to buy only to regret the decision later?
Secondly when rooted does a Barnes and Noble app work on it also? And is their any problem with the cloud?
When rooted does the Android Market work also?
What are some of the things I would want to consider when I compare them? Also from what I understand you lose storage space of the cloud when rooted so loose alot of storage is this true?
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I would reccommend the kindle fire to start off... Yes the kindle fire is very rootable when useing kindle fire utility. The nook tablet and color have options for more space however if you choose not to flash a custom ROM on your kindle fire then you have unlimited amazon storage in the cloud. (Only for Amazon stuff) you also have 5 GB of cloud storage for anything you want. Expandable (for a couple bucks a year). You will not regret buying a KF. Yes B&N app works on rooted kindle fire. No problems with the cloud so far... the android market works when rooted yes.. If you don't mind having to be connected all of the time to wifi to be able to access your books/movies/mp3 files then is it great! No when you root a kindle fire you do not lose the cloud.... that only happens if you flash a custom ROM. However devs are working on USB hosting for the kindle fire so that means flashdrives.. hope this helps you.
I can't think of much else to add. I've had mine since launch and love it. If rooting and flashing custom ROMs are things that interest you then you should definitely go with the KF. The Nook Tablet is apparently lacking in development as I've checked there and am pretty sure they don't have a stable version of CM7 yet when the KF has several rock-solid CM7 ROMs and our devs are making great strides on CM9.
Problems with WiFi Connectiviy
There have been quit a few reports of Kindle Fires not being able to connect to a secure router using WPA/WPA2 - PSK (Personal). Encryption Type TKIP+AES.
They said it works with WEP, but that isn't secure enough.
I bought a Kindle Fire last week and have not been able to maintain a connection on a secure connection. I'm hoping someone in here might have some ideas. Other sites have no been helpful, and I'm hearing support for this is extremely lacking. Hope I posted in the correct place, Thanks.
I've had the nook color and the tablet and the fire. It really depends on what you want, if a ton of support and on board storage are things you want, and don't need the fastest thing ever, the color wins. Also cheaper then the other two. If you just want root but not custom roms and on board storage with more performance then a color, nook tablet. However at a little less you have the same or better performer with custom roms to pick from and don't mind losing onboard storage expansion, the fire wins.
As I said I have owned and hacked modded whatever all 3, for me its nook color or fire, forget the nook tablet for now. I sold my color to get the nook tablet, which I returned and got a fire. I've since moved on to an Acer iconia a100 and my mom uses the fire, rolling an ics rom and doing fine. I can't answer the wifi thing other then it connected to my wpa2 wifi fine for the 15 minutes before it got rooted and rommed. Still works with my wpa2, I've since changed from dlink to Linksys routers, never had an issue not due to a rom bug.
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There have been quit a few reports of Kindle Fires not being able to connect to a secure router using WPA/WPA2 - PSK (Personal). Encryption Type TKIP+AES.
They said it works with WEP, but that isn't secure enough.
I bought a Kindle Fire last week and have not been able to maintain a connection on a secure connection. I'm hoping someone in here might have some ideas. Other sites have no been helpful, and I'm hearing support for this is extremely lacking. Hope I posted in the correct place, Thanks.
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I haven't heard these reports. Anyway, I run stock, have been for months my home connection with wpa2 has not given me any problems with my kindle. Solid.
I got a fire in trade, played withit in stock form. It does its job. I'm accustomed to stock android and am running. CM9 build as of now. The lack of storage do sent bother me because anything no want to listen to is on iheartradio or on Pandora and movies, I can find them if I need them. Mostly tho, I browse the web and XDA looking for a different from for my toys... B-)
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But since I'm here anyway...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23747567
I saw the new Kindle Fire SD announced with slightly better specs available for $159. I wanted to buy it and also sign up for Prime to stream video and borrow books and have apps and stuff, plus root it and run Android 4.1 so I can have an awesome cheap "android tablet" with Amazon Prime
Is it worth the $280?
Will there be development?
Thanks in advance for aiding a little noob.
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I saw the new Kindle Fire SD announced with slightly better specs available for $159. I wanted to buy it and also sign up for Prime to stream video and borrow books and have apps and stuff, plus root it and run Android 4.1 so I can have an awesome cheap "android tablet" with Amazon Prime
Is it worth the $280?
Will there be development?
Thanks in advance for aiding a little noob.
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Buy it because you want to use it as an Amazon tablet. Whether or not these can ever be used as an Android tablet is the big question mark right now. There are rumors and much speculation about whether or not the bootloader will be secured in some way. The way that Amazon is marketing these things with lockscreen advertising, they have plenty of reasons to keep them from being easily manipulated like the first generation devices. Nobody will have any good idea about their potential until the right people start looking at them.
I have no idea where this $280 figure comes into play.
EDIT: I'm not sure the SD version is a good buy anyway. For $40 more, you get the better display, double the storage, bluetooth, HDMI out... that seems like the better choice.
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Buy it because you want to use it as an Amazon tablet. Whether or not these can ever be used as an Android tablet is the big question mark right now. There are rumors and much speculation about whether or not the bootloader will be secured in some way. The way that Amazon is marketing these things with lockscreen advertising, they have plenty of reasons to keep them from being easily manipulated like the first generation devices. Nobody will have any good idea about their potential until the right people start looking at them.
I have no idea where this $280 figure comes into play.
EDIT: I'm not sure the SD version is a good buy anyway. For $40 more, you get the better display, double the storage, bluetooth, HDMI out... that seems like the better choice.
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The $280 includes Prime, sorry I didn't clarify that
$40 doesn't seem like much at all, and your views on the SD tablet are very interesting. I honestly haven't even considered the HD version. I'll check it out.
Thanks for the input.
It's still a question mark on whether the developers will be able to root the new fire easily. I suggest waiting for a month or so.
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The new Kindles have a locked bootloader, but I have a feeling they'll be easily bypassed since Amazon lets you do manual updates via USB.
Ok you're asking us about 2 separate things. In my opinion, Amazon Prime is only worth $80 if you buy a lot of stuff online.
If I were in your shoes, I'd buy a used Kindle Fire or I'd find a way to get $40 together and buy a Nexus 7.
Hello, I don't know a lot about this as I've never unlocked a device before, but I am reasonably savvy on the PC if given pointers.
I tend to just use the PC (w7-64) when I have time, or my Galaxy S3 when I am about. Recently we bought my daughter a Kindle Fire HDX. Under device model it lists itself as a 3rd Generation.
We however cannot get it to do many of the things we'd like it to do because it cannot use the android store. It's extremely frustrating for her and us. It appears that is because Amazon does not permit it to, even though I unlocked "Apps from Unknown Sources" we are still running into all kinds of blocks.
We dont use the Amazon FreePlay, though it would be nice if that could work if this device ran as a native Android device just in case, but can live without it if not.
I have read Kindle Fire for Beginners ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552547) but the thread is from 2012 and Im not sure how things have changed from the generations of Kindle Fires.
So....
Where do I start?
I need a set of pages (or threads) with walkthroughs for a 3rd gen. Browsing through the site here, I saw a thread for 1st gen devices, and a lot of threads about unbricking from ROMS, Im not sure I fully need a ROM and probably just root permissions, on the other hand a ROM may be nice. One thing I dont have is a lot of time, and if it's too difficult I can sell the Kindle and buy a Samsung tablet at Costco or something. I just hate to waste money though.
Thanks for your time and help!
You need to go to the kindle fire hdx forums.
Just wondering, is Amazon still planning on making a new Fire Phone?
I doubt it. The app store is lacking in apps and developers, which attracts people to thr device. Without those fundamentals, fire phone 2 will be another failure.
I may be picking up a Fire TV Stick for $30. Are there different versions I should be looking for or make sure it hasn't been updated to a certain FW or Update?
Totally new to this and there really isn't any guides post on the top of the forums that lead to what I'm after.
My intent is to replace Dish in the future and be able to use the stick for viewing any and all channels. I really don't care about streaming from Netflix or Prime since I have several terebytes of movies and shows to catch up on as it is. So just looking to replace current televised tv TBH.
Is there ways to record from these or is it just what ever channel you have it set on your watching live and that's it? (The fiance dvr's a bunch of stuff lol)