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[Q] For the brave developers. Assure view without spen

I love GMD spen gesture controlling app.
Samsung has made things in these phones that the finger touch will not work when spen is on screen. It's pretty much super and useful. But, I saw GMD gesture controlling app working while I'm writing in the screen with spen. It's an error. But here I'm not asking you to fix it. I appreciate it, because you could do it with your app. Now what I need is that, air view feature without spen. The Note series models (NOTE2, 10.1,8) uses the same features that xperia sola or today's release, s4 for the air view. So I think that Samsung had restricted finger air view feature for the promotion of spen, same as restricting finger touch while s pen in use. Since GMD gesture controlling app could remove the restriction of finger touch while spen in use, I hope that you could do this too(air view without spen). so I request you to try it. So can you?

I guess bumping up the touch sensitivity could do it.
But there are two problems:
1. I don't know if the sensitivity on our device can go that high.
2. There is no supported software. You won't get previews as the software on the Note 2 is build for Air View by the S Pen, and would not recognize Air View with a finger.

But, s4 has same technology..
DubelBoom said:
there is no supported software. You won't get previews as the software on the Note 2 is build for Air View by the S Pen, and would not recognize Air View with a finger.
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But, s4 and note 2 shows same software features in air view. S4 is by hand and note2 by s pen. Also, the technology is same. What I guess is that Samsung would make it happen in next update. But I wish to get it early. The update will take2 months or so long. They will need s4 to click the ground.

Take a look at this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2190830
Edit: Most of the features announced for the S4 will not come to previous devices like Note I & II and the S3. Not officially anyway, because that would harm S4 sales.
So...don't count on official airview on the Note 2, ever.
Maybe Note 3!

ashiqrafa said:
But, s4 and note 2 shows same software features in air view. S4 is by hand and note2 by s pen. Also, the technology is same. What I guess is that Samsung would make it happen in next update. But I wish to get it early. The update will take2 months or so long. They will need s4 to click the ground.
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But the software wouldn't know what to do with the finger hovering, devs will need to rewrite parts (if possible, I'm not sure) so the app would pop the text/image/anything else.

Always, the profit is for Samsung
Intruder7s said:
most of the features announced for the S4 will not come to previous devices like Note I & II and the S3. Not officially anyway, because that would harm S4 sales.
So...don't count on official airview on the Note 2, ever.
Maybe Note 3!
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No it's not the truth. If companies fear such type of sale affection, apple wouldn't have provided the iOS6 update for previous iPhone models. The note 2 released with unique multi window feature and see currently the previous released s3 and note 1 got it. Also, if Samsung fears the affection for their super phone, then they wouldn't have released the galaxy grand. We should think things in the other way, if the update bring same features of s4 to note 2, n2 is going to be the best with unique spen features. It may affect the sales of s4, but it never affect the profit if Samsung. Whatever the model is, phone is of Samsung's.

Intruder7s said:
Take a look at this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2190830
Edit: Most of the features announced for the S4 will not come to previous devices like Note I & II and the S3. Not officially anyway, because that would harm S4 sales.
So...don't count on official airview on the Note 2, ever.
Maybe Note 3!
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Any source and note 2 features like air view came to note 1 and s3 also then why we will not get s4 features?? Maybe we will get it after some months or so...

The S3 does not have air view.
@OP
Note 2 is bigger and has double the RAM of the S3. Plus the S- Pen.
So they have no fear to also boost S3 a bit as well.
But the S3 and S4 do not have many differences in hardware with each other so Samsung has to make them a bit different also software wise as well as hardware wise because the hardware is not improved enough for an S3 owner to make the jump.
This is my thinking.

Intruder7s said:
The S3 does not have air view.
@OP
Note 2 is bigger and has double the RAM of the S3. Plus the S- Pen.
So they have no fear to also boost S3 a bit as well.
But the S3 and S4 do not have many differences in hardware with each other so Samsung has to make them a bit different also software wise as well as hardware wise because the hardware is not improved enough for an S3 owner to make the jump.
This is my thinking.
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But Samsung released galaxy grand at lower price specs same as s3. for Samsung, all those are not a problem. If they consider so, then they wouldn't have released the updated touchwiz upgrade for note1. Note 1 and note2 look pretty similar.

Intruder7s said:
The S3 does not have air view.
@OP
Note 2 is bigger and has double the RAM of the S3. Plus the S- Pen.
So they have no fear to also boost S3 a bit as well.
But the S3 and S4 do not have many differences in hardware with each other so Samsung has to make them a bit different also software wise as well as hardware wise because the hardware is not improved enough for an S3 owner to make the jump.
This is my thinking.
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Ya because it did not have stylus spen.if u try note stylus it will have that..I think lets stop this ..it will be great if samsung provide us the update all will be happy

Samsung will release an update by the end of may that is after two months of s4 launch.
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i think it is possible on the s4 beacause it has a more sensitive touch(u can use it with gloves)... and that is a hardware feature, so it is not likely that our note 2 will have it ever...

Can anybody help me to get this feature? I want to open popup note without using s pen's done tap. What I mean is a way to add shortcut in home screen

thez3ro said:
i think it is possible on the s4 beacause it has a more sensitive touch(u can use it with gloves)... and that is a hardware feature, so it is not likely that our note 2 will have it ever...
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Samsung vp confirms that s3 will get features like air touch with the help of front camera maybe.
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[Q] Galaxy SIII questions

Okay so my friend got the verizon galaxy s4 the other day and i have the At&t galaxy sIII... I was wondering if there was a way for me to get certain features that his phone has. Such as quick glance and multiple lock screens or multiview. I was also wondering if there were any features that can be used with our devices such as s beam or group play. Are there any unique things for samsung devices? Oh and will the At&t Galaxy sIII receive the 4.2.2 update?

No, and probably not...

brianrad said:
Okay so my friend got the verizon galaxy s4 the other day and i have the At&t galaxy sIII... I was wondering if there was a way for me to get certain features that his phone has. Such as quick glance and multiple lock screens or multiview. I was also wondering if there were any features that can be used with our devices such as s beam or group play. Are there any unique things for samsung devices? Oh and will the At&t Galaxy sIII receive the 4.2.2 update?
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There are some custom ROMS with multiview and other stuff. Aside from that, don't get your hopes up unless both Samsung and your carrier decide to give you new features via update. As far as Samsung devices and unique...well, that is like asking if Ford has anything unique. Some parts and engine designs are unique to Ford while other things may be more generic.
AT&T to 4.2.2...you will never know until it is released most likely and that is assuming AT&T releases a 4.2.2 update. They are very good about not giving out this kind of information.

brianrad said:
Okay so my friend got the verizon galaxy s4 the other day and i have the At&t galaxy sIII... I was wondering if there was a way for me to get certain features that his phone has. Such as quick glance and multiple lock screens or multiview. I was also wondering if there were any features that can be used with our devices such as s beam or group play. Are there any unique things for samsung devices? Oh and will the At&t Galaxy sIII receive the 4.2.2 update?
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Many custom ROMs have multi view, s beam, and include group play. Biggest thing you won't see are things like air gesture and some of the more advanced eye tracking features. Mostly gimmicky IMHO.
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features missing on Tab Pro 8.4" ??

just exchanged my Tab Pro 10.1" to the smaller 8.4" Tab Pro..
noticed two things missing on the Tab Pro 8.4"
1: screen adjuster (mode to choose between Dynamic, Standard and Movie)
2: Reeding mode
tried resetting it but still missing...
thought the would be the same on both 8.4" and 10.1" ?

dk_iceman said:
just exchanged my Tab Pro 10.1" to the smaller 8.4" Tab Pro..
noticed two things missing on the Tab Pro 8.4"
1: screen adjuster (mode to choose between Dynamic, Standard and Movie)
2: Reeding mode
tried resetting it but still missing...
thought the would be the same on both 8.4" and 10.1" ?
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buddy there are a lot of differences between these two slates
whether it be price or features
so i think you get my point
you should stick to what you have and wait for updates which may solve your problem
wait with fingers crossed :fingers-crossed:

aditya rathee said:
buddy there are a lot of differences between these two slates
whether it be price or features
so i think you get my point
you should stick to what you have and wait for updates which may solve your problem
wait with fingers crossed :fingers-crossed:
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It's not a "problem"
but those two things is almost standard on most Samsung Units.. and in reviews of the 8.4" Tab pro I can see on screenshots that the Reading mode is there ?
the difference between them should not be so much if you choose the Snapdragon 800 version of the 10.1" tab pro...

dk_iceman said:
It's not a "problem"
but those two things is almost standard on most Samsung Units.. and in reviews of the 8.4" Tab pro I can see on screenshots that the Reading mode is there ?
the difference between them should not be so much if you choose the Snapdragon 800 version of the 10.1" tab pro...
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never go on the crap shown by sammy himself

aditya rathee said:
never go on the crap shown by sammy himself
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why bother replying when you absolutely don't say anything useful...
Witch Tab Pro do you have, 8.4", 10.1" or the 12.2 ?? since all of your answers are so helpful..
And by the way it was a Review picture I saw it on the 8.4"
So all i Really want to know... what about other Tab Pro 8.4" owners in here ?

Not on my 8.4. I have both options on Note 10.1 2014 and on Note 8.0, under display settings. Not on TabPro 8.4.

I don't have either, either.

ALL APPS TO MULTI WINDOW hi guys I didn't want to start a new thread so I thought I would ask the question here. Is the only way to achieve this via root, and if so does it trip the knox counter?
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Looks like no way to add widgets to lock screen as well.

gingerdude said:
ALL APPS TO MULTI WINDOW hi guys I didn't want to start a new thread so I thought I would ask the question here. Is the only way to achieve this via root, and if so does it trip the knox counter?
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From what I've read rooting always trips the Knox counter and there is no workaround as of today (Mar 22nd).
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I noticed there was no reading mode as well. Weird as my tab 3 8.0 had it as a standard feature.
What I really wish they had added was a mini HDMI out... There are many cheap tablets out there (like the Dell 8") that have it as a feature. No need for slimport or mhl adapters (many of which don't work). Just plug in a tiny mini HDMI to HDMI adapter and away you go.
I get that Samsung expects us to buy their $70 adapter but it's just a pain to use a dongle.
Also, widgets on the lock screen and "knock on/off" were two of my favorite features on the LG G Pad. Surprised they didn't have something similar on the Tab Pro.

face unlock. why did samsung rip it from KK?! i love it on my other android devices.

I've been surprised by the lack of screen adjustment also. In fact I was just reading this thread to see if there's an updated official firmware release which I haven't seen since I'm rooted.

I took a look at the 8.4 Pro for the first time today. When I saw it had no display mode options it became a instant 'no purchase'. So I'll be sticking with the Note 8.0 for the foreseeable.

lelik11a said:
Looks like no way to add widgets to lock screen as well.
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You can do that.

RobilarOCN said:
You can do that.
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And how can I do that? Can't find any way to add widgets. I want to add chronus widget to my lock screen.

lelik11a said:
And how can I do that? Can't find any way to add widgets. I want to add chronus widget to my lock screen.
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Go into device/lock screen, under swipe options turn on "shortcuts" set shortcuts on lockscreen.
then go into it and you can remove the default 5 app shortcuts and add your own (up to 5). Then you can swipe from the icon on the lock screen directly into the app in question.

I think you misunderstood me. I'm talking about widgets, not shortcuts to apps.

lelik11a said:
I think you misunderstood me. I'm talking about widgets, not shortcuts to apps.
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You are right. Weird though, I can put widgets on the lock screen with the Tab 3 8.0 but not the newer model.

Looks like they removed it in new touchwiz, same thing on galaxy s 5, no widgets on the lock screen.

How does Tab S screen compare to Note 4 screen?

I'm new to Samsung products. I own a Tab Pro 8.4 and about to get a Note 4. Looking at the Tab S in the store, it doesn't seem to be the same Super AMOLED generation as the Note 4. I'm wondering if the tablets are a generation behind the phones, but I don't have enough experience to know what I am looking at. I'm trying to decide if I should wait for the successor to the current Tab S.

Have both the 10.5 and the note 4, and the tab s screen is just marginally worse than the note 4. That said, it's still a brilliant screen and the bigger size is a huge advantage for a lot of content surfing, even compared to the note 4.
At this point though, I'll say hold off, new models should be on the way in a couple of months.

Thank you, that is very helpful.

orange-man1 said:
Thank you, that is very helpful.
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Basically, the Tab S is the Galaxy S5 but a tablet version. Since its Samsung first super amoled Tablet, they did pretty well in my opinion. But newer tablets are coming out very soon

DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
Basically, the Tab S is the Galaxy S5 but a tablet version. Since its Samsung first super amoled Tablet, they did pretty well in my opinion. But newer tablets are coming out very soon
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That makes sense, so logically the new tablet screens should be on par with the Note 4 and S6.

In fact, the first tablet with Super Amoled screen from Sammy was the Galaxy Tab 7.7, but with a resolution of 720p. Yes, Tab S is a stretched S5, but the S5 has a 1080p screen, while the Tab S, 2k. The Galaxy Note 4 has too, but with higher DPI, then with greater visual quality. And, of course, the Tab S still having a beautiful display.

I think it's the same screen tech of the note 4, i think the newer tabs are going to be the newer s6 tech screens
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I'll just say this. Anandtech reviews the tab s screens both as one of the very best, if not the best, amongst all the tablets.
Comparing it to a note 4 is not really saying much, as the note 4 screen is widely accepted to be the very best amongst all the phones. Haha.

they both look damn good.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 4 using Tapatalk.

does the tab s4 lag like the s3?

I have a tab s3 and it lags when performing basic tasks.
the feeling is like that of a desktop running windows on a 5200rpm hard disk.
how is the s4?
thank you.

no, it doesn't lag.
but there are some apps that are incompatible with Tab S4 that can cause system wide lags...in my case IOBit Applock.
After uninstall everything runs smoothly.

Can confirm that the Tab S4 does not lag like the Tab S3.
The Tab S3 lag was horrible out of the box and was very frustrating to use. After the firmware update it became tolerable but still frustrating (to a lesser degree).
I didn't see that kind of lag on the S4 yet.

I also can confirm, no lag. It's a much better experience. The updated CPU made a world of difference.
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So far so good with my 64GB LTE version with 4GB RAM, though I have only had the tablet since mid December and haven't really done anything very demanding on it yet.
Are you all using the 4GB variant as well? The 6GB is hard to come by and wasn't available in Doha Hamad International Airport when I bought mine.
I think 6GB should have been standard as I'm sure that 4GB will be the primary limitation that results in lag. The SD835 is fast enough to handle most tasks and games very well.

I can also confirm that the Tab S4 has no lag compared to Tab S3 that I used to have.
Very smooth experience with S4.
Too bad android app support for tablets is diminishing by the minute. Some apps (that is developed for phone) look so aweful on tablet screens, I had to uninstall them.

d4rkkn16ht said:
no, it doesn't lag.
but there are some apps that are incompatible with Tab S4 that can cause system wide lags...in my case IOBit Applock.
After uninstall everything runs smoothly.
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cryptonium said:
Can confirm that the Tab S4 does not lag like the Tab S3.
The Tab S3 lag was horrible out of the box and was very frustrating to use. After the firmware update it became tolerable but still frustrating (to a lesser degree).
I didn't see that kind of lag on the S4 yet.
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folks,
I am reaching the same conclusion.
The t830 is very responsive and smooth.
I hope it remains this way even after installing many apps in the not so far future.
The display is also smoother using either the spen or finger. I don't think it's because it's brand new. Is it the same gorilla?

d4rkkn16ht said:
no, it doesn't lag.
but there are some apps that are incompatible with Tab S4 that can cause system wide lags...in my case IOBit Applock.
After uninstall everything runs smoothly.
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Byte_76 said:
So far so good with my 64GB LTE version with 4GB RAM, though I have only had the tablet since mid December and haven't really done anything very demanding on it yet.
Are you all using the 4GB variant as well? The 6GB is hard to come by and wasn't available in Doha Hamad International Airport when I bought mine.
I think 6GB should have been standard as I'm sure that 4GB will be the primary limitation that results in lag. The SD835 is fast enough to handle most tasks and games very well.
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Exactly. The galaxy s8+ and note 8 come with 6gb. The tab S4, released later, comes with 4gb.

drohm said:
I also can confirm, no lag. It's a much better experience. The updated CPU made a world of difference.
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I don't think it's the CPU only. I know the 835 has 8 cores while the 820 only 4 cores, but does Oreo make good use of extra cores?
Also the frequency difference isn't that much @ 15%.
Perhaps bloatware was optimized...
My 2 cents.

I have both the Tab S3 and Tab S4 and neither of them lag.

diehard2013 said:
I have a tab s3 and it lags when performing basic tasks.
the feeling is like that of a desktop running windows on a 5200rpm hard disk.
how is the s4?
thank you.
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You can fix the lag by rooting your tab S3 and install Trimmer (fstrim)

Almost 24 hours in with owning this thing... I can say that I haven't seen any lag. Not when I'm unlocking it, using apps, swiping through things... nothing. It may not have the latest hardware... but it doesn't look like that's affecting anything. I even edited a whole 16 minute video down to a 6 minute video on this with no lag! This tablet is amazing man I tell you. Never knew you could do some almost PC-like editing on here

Kholargol said:
You can fix the lag by rooting your tab S3 and install Trimmer (fstrim)
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Damn!
has Samsung acknowledged this?
By reading the app description one can deduce that the tab S4 will suffer the same fate in the future, unless the SSD is different or newer..
I recall the tab S3 starting to lag just a few weeks after a full factory wipe/reset, though such procedure wouldn't correct trimming, correct?

Don't have an S3 but my S4 does not lag and as a matter of fact while using it in the DeX mode it is refreshing as compared to my Desktop and Galaxy Book how quickly the apps open up. Third party email and office apps open almost instantly even when not running in the background..

bill-e said:
Don't have an S3 but my S4 does not lag and as a matter of fact while using it in the DeX mode it is refreshing as compared to my Desktop and Galaxy Book how quickly the apps open up. Third party email and office apps open almost instantly even when not running in the background..
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Yes, S4 users don't complain about lag on their tab. I thing that's the first time I see that, it's cool