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[Q] Is SGN-II worth buying?

Sup guys.
I'd like to ask owners of SGN-II - do you guys think this mobile is worth buying now, some months before release of SGN-III? It - presumably - will have better hardware and bigger screen, but would it really matter?
I'd also like to ask if somebody uses SGN-II on a regular basis to take notes and stuff - I'm planning it to use as a student (Bc.) instead of "old" paper notebook and wonder if it's screen going to be sufficient for that.
Cheers.

If you wait for the note 3 you might as well wait for the note 4. The s-pen works really well for taking quick notes but the screen may be a bit small for your needs. Have you looked at the note 8.0? The note 8.0 would be a lot better for taking long notes, IMO.
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Imo the note2 would be too small for your needs. I have note2 which is an awesome smart phone but I wouldn't use as a educational tool, I also have the note 10.1 which given the extra screen space is a much better option.
I also recently sold the galaxy tab 7.7 which I loved and only sold as I realised my note 2 is JUST large enough to make a small tab unnecessary, so now I use the note 2 while out and about and the 10.1 while at home. Just my opinion.
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As someone who's got all three of the current Galaxy Note range, I'd say the Note 8.0 would be best for your needs. The screen on the Note 10.1 looks like fuzzy garbage and it's a bit too heavy to use comfortably as a paper notebook replacement. The Note 2 is ok for quick notes but not suitable for use of any duration. Note 8.0 is the sweet spot, both portable and practical. Battery life isn't the best but it will get you through a full 8 hour day.
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Thank you for your suggestions guys, I'll take a look at Note 8, however I really liked AMOLED screen on SGN-II, looks so... vivid and bright after my Desire S, lol.

Y'all may think I'm crazy, but I went to the AT&T store last night to look at the LG Optimus G Pro and compare the screen with my Note 2. As far as resolution goes, I couldn't tell the difference and my daughter agreed with me. Maybe if you hold the phones 5 inches from your face you would see the big difference that everyone is talking about. The only thing that looked a little better to me were the whites. The speed I've been hearing so much about, well my note 2 was just as fast at scrolling, loading apps and browsing the web. Maybe its the rom and kernel I'm using (Hawkish rom and Perseus kernel). I'm glad I went and looked at the LG because I was jealous of the 1080p screen that I've been hearing so much about, but no more. The Note 2 is a fantastic device with a nice screen and a tone of features. The development is outstanding as well with the Note 2. We have a lot of very talented devs.
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Eveigh said:
Sup guys.
I'd like to ask owners of SGN-II - do you guys think this mobile is worth buying now, some months before release of SGN-III? It - presumably - will have better hardware and bigger screen, but would it really matter?
I'd also like to ask if somebody uses SGN-II on a regular basis to take notes and stuff - I'm planning it to use as a student (Bc.) instead of "old" paper notebook and wonder if it's screen going to be sufficient for that.
Cheers.
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Some suggestions were made about getting a note 8 but you could also consider getting a Bluetooth keyboard to type with the gnote2. Take the nerd factor to the next level.
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Hi,
Simple answer. Yes.

I am a student but I make my notes old skool with pen and paper. The Note II is fast and smooth enough. After 2 or 3 years I will buy the Note 5 or 6.

Eveigh said:
Thank you for your suggestions guys, I'll take a look at Note 8, however I really liked AMOLED screen on SGN-II, looks so... vivid and bright after my Desire S, lol.
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The Note 8.0 screen is pretty decent too even though it's not Amoled.
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I am Glad not Buying Note 3

After watching some of the Video on YouTube of the Samsung Galaxy Note 3. I am Glad I did'nt sell my Note 2 there is not much of the difference compare to software wish and hardware wise little bit here n there and for some reason I like the shape of Note 2 compare to note 3. It would have been nice if they had made shape like Samsung Galaxy 4 but then again these are my personal thought for the Note 2. If anyone don't have any Note phone and coming from Note 1 to Note 3 there will be a huge huge difference and if they are thinking about buying then they should go for it & One thing I am a big fan of Samsung Personally.

Note 2 users dont "need" to upgrade. But new users of the Note series are going to get blown away. Im excited for them.

Even though there isn't a huge single upgrade for one particular spec of the note 3, it has almost every single component being tweaked to perfection. From gorilla glass 3 to a cpu that is much faster and less strain on the battery. Almost every little aspect of the phone is getting an upgrade, which in my opinion makes the phone with getting. Not to mention 1080p, even though the screen is nearly the same size. Also I can't believe no one is talking about how the loudspeaker is on the bottom bezel and not the back of the phone.
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skypagers said:
After watching some of the Video on YouTube of the Samsung Galaxy Note 3. I am Glad I did'nt sell my Note 2 there is not much of the difference compare to software wish and hardware wise little bit here n there and for some reason I like the shape of Note 2 compare to note 3. It would have been nice if they had made shape like Samsung Galaxy 4 but then again these are my personal thought for the Note 2. If anyone don't have any Note phone and coming from Note 1 to Note 3 there will be a huge huge difference and if they are thinking about buying then they should go for it & One thing I am a big fan of Samsung Personally.
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It is shaped like the S4.

Yea I'm not too impressed either. I'm actually glad because it makes the option of buying the xperia z1 that much easier. I can't wait for the z1 release
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tab s 10.5 vs note pro vs 12.2 vs butche note 4

I have a note 4 thats messed up. I use it as a tablet.
Should i: exchange it for a Verizon Note Pro, exchange it for a Tab s 32gb wifi, or keeping the note 4.
On my note 4 i use it to draw [sketchbookx + spen], youtube 1080p +, videos of my memory card [720p or less Quality], music, and a lot of browsing.
Of note i use the multi window feature alot, running several things at once. I also like how they minimize to a bubble if u need to get it out of ur way but dont want to closw it.
Note 12.2:
PROS: spen. Bigger canvas. possible update to note 4 muliti window
Cons: not a samoled screen, maybe outdate by now?, older Snapdragon chip, older software
Tab S wifi:
Pros: samoled screen
Cons: not a note device. Exynos chip. ill miss my muliwindow.
Any help?
Heres whats wrong with my note:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...k-note-4-problems-t2994574/page2#post58003556

GreeleyXda said:
I have a note 4 thats messed up. I use it as a tablet.
Should i: exchange it for a Verizon Note Pro, exchange it for a Tab s 32gb wifi, or keeping the note 4.
On my note 4 i use it to draw [sketchbookx + spen], youtube 1080p +, videos of my memory card [720p or less Quality], music, and a lot of browsing.
Of note i use the multi window feature alot, running several things at once. I also like how they minimize to a bubble if u need to get it out of ur way but dont want to closw it.
Note 12.2:
PROS: spen. Bigger canvas. possible update to note 4 muliti window
Cons: not a samoled screen, maybe outdate by now?, older Snapdragon chip, older software
Tab S wifi:
Pros: samoled screen
Cons: not a note device. Exynos chip. ill miss my muliwindow.
Any help?
Heres whats wrong with my note:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...k-note-4-problems-t2994574/page2#post58003556
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I would say, you should buy a Tab S, because you can also buy a pen for this tablet. Well it is not that great as the one is for the NotePro, but at least you can also use it like a pen.
Multiwindow feature has been ported to the Tab S, also the NotePro keyboard, so no problem with this things, maybe have a look here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/prerooted-stock-touchwiz-rom-t2973107
I would prefer a Tab S

To be frank I have Note pro and recently bought my Tab S, with its physical blue-tooth keyboard. Since I used that keyboard with the tablet, I could never go baTo be frank I have Note pro and recently bought my Tab S, with its physical bluetooth keyboard. Since I used that keyboard with the tablet, I could never go baack to anything else. I am just addidcted to it. ck to anything else. I am just addicted to it. To be frank I have Note pro and recently bought my Tab S, with its physical bluetooth keyboard. Since I used that keyboard with the tablet, I could never go back to anything else. I am just addicted to it.

Tkkg1994 said:
I would say, you should buy a Tab S, because you can also buy a pen for this tablet. Well it is not that great as the one is for the NotePro, but at least you can also use it like a pen.
Multiwindow feature has been ported to the Tab S, also the NotePro keyboard, so no problem with this things, maybe have a look here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/prerooted-stock-touchwiz-rom-t2973107
I would prefer a Tab S
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Why do you prefer the Tab S? Just because of the screen?
Can you give me some info on the pen fof the Tab S? The pen's quality is much more important to be than having a samoled over Lcd. I really dont mind an LCD screen, ive had an ipad before.

I would prefer a Tab S. I may be a little bias because I haven't owned the note one. However the only thing the note has over the Tab S is the S pen. (Please correct me if im wrong) Which has no use to me. So if you really rely on and would like the s pen then for that reason alone I'd imagine the note would be the smarter choice.
Unless your able to somehow use the S Pen on the Tab S. I don't think so but it's weird because when I was freezing apps to debloat I came across a file or two for the S Pen. No idea why.

But what does the Tab S have over the Note Pro 12.2?
Ive seen how nice the screen is on the Tab S. I havent seen the notes pro's screen but i have used a ipad air. So im ok with a LCD screen. The note has the same resolution as the Tab S just a slighyly lower ppi.
So the Screen being "better" isnt enough of a reason to me
Lets say both are the LTE models from Verizon, what does the Tab S do better?

GreeleyXda said:
But what does the Tab S have over the Note Pro 12.2?
Ive seen how nice the screen is on the Tab S. I havent seen the notes pro's screen but i have used a ipad air. So im ok with a LCD screen. The note has the same resolution as the Tab S just a slighyly lower ppi.
So the Screen being "better" isnt enough of a reason to me
Lets say both are the LTE models from Verizon, what does the Tab S do better?
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I'm assuming you're talking about the Note Pro 12.2" right? Well, the Tab S is thinnner and lighter than Note Pro, and just overall nicer to hold in the hands. I used both side by site at the official Samsung store and the decision was pretty easy.
I don't know how youy can say screen quality isn't important. The difference between AMOLED vs. LCD in Note Pro is night and day. This was one of the deciding factors for my buying a Tab S instead of the Nexus 9.
Unless you REALLY need the S-pen functionality, the Tab S is the superior tablet. I owned a Note 2 and only removed the S-pen from its silo exactly 3 times (1. to make sure it was there when I bought it; 2. to make sure it worked with Evernote; 3. to show it off to a friend).

rodrigorajao said:
I'm assuming you're talking about the Note Pro 12.2" right? Well, the Tab S is thinnner and lighter than Note Pro, and just overall nicer to hold in the hands. I used both side by site at the official Samsung store and the decision was pretty easy.
I don't know how youy can say screen quality isn't important. The difference between AMOLED vs. LCD in Note Pro is night and day. This was one of the deciding factors for my buying a Tab S instead of the Nexus 9.
Unless you REALLY need the S-pen functionality, the Tab S is the superior tablet. I owned a Note 2 and only removed the S-pen from its silo exactly 3 times (1. to make sure it was there when I bought it; 2. to make sure it worked with Evernote; 3. to show it off to a friend).
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I do actually use the spen a lot. Think ill try to get the tablets next to each other to see if the screen rly makes that big of a difference.

[Q] Galaxy Tab S or S2 ?

Hi Guys,
My 2012 Nexus 10 is showing its age and I am desperate for a new tablet. I waited so long for Galaxy Tab S2, but I am kinda disappointed with its spec. old 5433 SoC and 4:3 screen with downgraded ppi and resolution ! so I am thinking about Galaxy Tab S, what do you think about it after lollipop update ? I heard many users complained about its lags and underpowered SoC, would you recommend it ? also how is the custom ROM community for it ? I can see there are a couple custom ROMs but are there stable enough to for daily usage ? I remember exynos had very limited developer support, so there was not many great ROMs for exynos devices out there, what do you think ? Galaxy Tab S or S2 ?

The S1 is a masterpiece the S2 is a frankenstein monster, 4:3 spit, virtually mono sound spit, so looks plain jane spit, no camera flash spit, no if-red spit, portrait design spit, I though it was an Galaxy Tab A by the photo`s it looks so cheap.
Exynos version has loads of rom`s, snapdragon version hardly any, If you want stability stick to kitkat, if your fine with flashing have fun with different roms.
John

But what about the lags and stutters on kitkat ? I heard lollipop fixed that. is it true ?

I have had no lag or stutter on my 10.5" kitkat , I had it running continuously for 160 days, I never shut it down or restarted it, I only did a restart to re-calibrate my battery but i had no problems with the battery, it was just maintenance.
But i am not a gamer, I mostly watch video`s and browse the internet for at least an hour every day, but white on an oled display eats the battery, if you do a lot of browsing use night mode or get an lcd tablet.
John.
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But what about the lags and stutters on kitkat ? I heard lollipop fixed that. is it true ?
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hmm. hard question. I personally would not get either right now. The s2 looks like a step backwards in the key areas, the darn screen.
the s has the lovely screen, but unless you can get a decent deal, its too long in the tooth to spend out a lot for.
its so irritating as there are no tabs which tick all the boxes. the experia z3 is good, but the res is lower, but everything else is up to speed.
dont get me wrong, I really do like my tablet, but who knows what is coming out in the next few months, or will be announced. I hope finally there is something which is progress in all areas.

The Tab S2 has a lower resolution screen than the Tab S (both resolution AND PPI), a significantly smaller battery and a marginally upgraded processor.
I'd wait for the true successor to the Tab S - which will likely a more upmarket SAMOLED tablet, priced higher than the Tab S with a full metal body (Like the Galaxy Tab A) and more of a competitor for the iPad.

I prefer plastic to metal, metal is cold and when bent or dented it does not spring back like plastic also it blocks radio waves so you have to have non metal sections to let the waves in and out, Samsung are masters of durable plastic, you can bend the battery cover of their phones almost in two and it will spring back without any damage try that with metal.
John

So I bought my Tab S around a month ago and I have to say I'm in love with it! After seeing the specs of the Tab S 2 I knew straight away the device for me.
The tab s in my opinion tick pretty much every box the only thing I wish was better is the GPU for gaming (not that it plays games badly - they play well enough) but I can be quite picky and if I'm not getting the max FPS from a game I feel upset! Everything else on the tablet is perfect and I'm the kind of chap that sells his devices every couple of months for the latest better version but this is the first device I've come across that I've not even looked at replacing, well worth the £300 I spent for it. The xperia z4 tablet is now out and it's specs are majorly impressive but it's thick bezels I think make it an ugly design, I love the thin sides of the Tab S, another tablet I've been looking at is the Microsoft Surface Pro 3 but again after seeing it in the shop I think it's quite ugly and put a Bluetooth keyboard, mouse and hancom fine with my tab s and it's replaced my laptop, which I'm selling on eBay at the moment as it hasn't been used since I bought my tablet.
I'm a network manager at a school and have used my Tab S for a hell of a lot including connecting to multiple servers and writing 30 page policies. It's a great little device.
I upgraded to Lollipop but I'm using IronRom instead of stock and I have to say it's very stable and very fast. No lag. On antutu I got around the 4100 mark with all my GPU and CPU over locked it's just as powerful as an S5 phone. I'd recommend it to anyone and already multiple family members and the girlfriend have ordered one after seeing mine.
Sorry this was long but I hope it helped

Comes down to a few questions:
Do you value performance. The Exnos 5420 is a 2 year old processor. The 5433/7410 is a 1 year old processor (though it is a 20nn version of the 7420 in the S6)
Do you value battery life. The Tab S2 8.0 has a battery that is 20% smaller than the original tab. It may be that the 20nn processor and smaller newer screen are more efficient but I don't expect better battery life.
Do you value longevity/updates: The Tab S2 is a year newer so it will have its updates discontinued later than the Tab S.
Does display ratio matter to you: If you mostly read, the Tab S2 may be a dream come true. If you mostly watch videos, it's a disaster.
Do you value internal storage: Other than a best buy limited edition model, the Tab S has 16gb storage. The S2 has 32GB.
It seems like the Tab S2 is a Galaxy Note 4 (international) turned into a tablet. The Tab S was the Galaxy Note 3 (international) turned into a tablet.
This is a tough question for me. I re-bought the Tab S 8.4 for 190 (ridiculous deal best buy had a few months ago) after leaving it late last year to try other tablets (The Xperia Z3 Tablet and the Venue 7840). I also bought the Tab S 8.4 on day 1 last year (great deal, $350 for the tablet, Samsung cover, and 16gb sd card) to replace my Tab Pro 8.4 that I bought on day 1. I'm leaning towards getting it if the same deal is in play.

I have asked basic maths for help:
smaller side of t800 is 5.87 inch and of t810 is 5.82 inch...
So I do not see any advantage for browsing in new generation...

rp3 said:
Comes down to a few questions:
Do you value performance. The Exnos 5420 is a 2 year old processor. The 5433/7410 is a 1 year old processor (though it is a 20nn version of the 7420 in the S6)
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Unfortunately yes he is right here as the Tab S processor is a year older, though I find it very quick and non-laggy when using IronRom on lollipop. As stated above the one thing I'd change is GPU performance but remember you always have over clocking when you root!
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Do you value longevity/updates: The Tab S2 is a year newer so it will have its updates discontinued later than the Tab S.
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Best thing about android is that you can flash a custom ROM so updates never bother me as I can always flash a latest build of Cyanogenmod if needs be.
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Do you value internal storage: Other than a best buy limited edition model, the Tab S has 16gb storage. The S2 has 32GB.
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I have 16GB internal storage on my Tab S including a 128GB memory card. Everything including apps is stored on my memory card thanks to the app "foldermount" you must be rooted though, I don't think the Tab S 2 has expandable storage but I could be wrong.

Good Point the S1 beats the S2 in both horizontal and vertical resolution, so the S2 is not really better for browsing, though you have to turn the S1 10.5" to portrait mode as it`s an landscape tablet while the S1 8.4" is an portrait style already.
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/co...ch,Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-S-10.5/phones/9385,8662
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/co...nch,Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-S-8.4/phones/9384,8663
John.
ivanox1972 said:
I have asked basic maths for help:
smaller side of t800 is 5.87 inch and of t810 is 5.82 inch...
So I do not see any advantage for browsing in new generation...
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Thank you all for your responses and opinions, I guess I would go for a Galaxy Tab S. but I will wait until S2 is released so I can get a good deal. I expect galaxy tab s gets a discount when s2 is released.

S1 - just bought my third for the household, was holding out for the S2 but so glad i did not wait for a iPad Air copy.

This morning I read that the S2 comes with Android 5.0.2 and started to laugh. Seriously 5.1.1 has been out for months including on a few Samsung devices. At the glacial pace that Samsung updates their tablet OS versions Android M will have been out for at least three months before the S2 gets v5.1.1, what a joke.
That on top of an older processor makes you wonder why they even bothered. I'm very happy to have bought my S 10.5 at almost $70 less retail, a few months ago, rather than this laughable new flagship tablet. Samsung's advantage of the best screen technology in the industry is getting sabotaged by very odd engineering decisions. It seems like the tablet division is run by their B team.
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Frankly speaking, I would never buy an S2 over the Tab S. At the moment on the Tab S you can have Lollipop, Xposed, custom kernels with F2FS, and the tablet flies, literally.

Yeah, but with the S2 you have like errr emm eerrr nothing help!!!!
John.
stopa10 said:
Frankly speaking, I would never buy an S2 over the Tab S. At the moment on the Tab S you can have Lollipop, Xposed, custom kernels with F2FS, and the tablet flies, literally.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=P28m9cwa47E
Samsung tab s2 hands on and comparison with tab s. In English . According to this guy tab s2 has much more per and pricing will be matched to tab S.

ivanox1972 said:
I have asked basic maths for help:
smaller side of t800 is 5.87 inch and of t810 is 5.82 inch...
So I do not see any advantage for browsing in new generation...
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Well, the advantage is that is almost the same viewing area but in a smaller and lighter package. Also, much more natural than the awkwardness that 16:10 is in portrait on such a large tablet as the tab S IMO. YMMV.

yohandesilva1 said:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=P28m9cwa47E
Samsung tab s2 hands on and comparison with tab s. In English . According to this guy tab s2 has much more per and pricing will be matched to tab S.
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That video sure did nothing to change my mind that the S2 is a step backward. Especially the comparison of reading the magazine which showed nothing visually while the video playback did demonstrate the smaller picture and unused screen black bars. Is Samsung going to pronounce, to video watchers, that the black bars on video playback is actually a way to extend your battery life? Which maybe needed as the thinner design and aspect ratio has reduced overall battery size. It is going to be tough to polish a turd and sell it at a flag ship price.
After reading the S2 details I'm still amazed that the OS is v5.0.2 and it does not have the same processor that the S6 phone uses. What were they thinking?
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Thinking about the switch to the S5

The abundance of Roms and customization on the s5 is really attracting me. Thinking about buying an S5 so I have a toy to play with again. From those of you who have owned an S5, do you think I'll be disappointed going backwards from the note 4?

I have been considering doing the same thing for about a month now. My wife has an s5 and I really like it but I've become so used to the screen real estate of the note series. I've had a note to note 3 and note 4 & I have a note 10.1 2014!

rsb321 said:
I have been considering doing the same thing for about a month now. My wife has an s5 and I really like it but I've become so used to the screen real estate of the note series. I've had a note to note 3 and note 4 & I have a note 10.1 2014!
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That's the biggest thing that is keeping me away from the s5. Do you notice any performance differences with the smaller processor and less ram?

I think the S5 is underestimated and overly criticized. It's really an effective and neat package in a reasonable size. The last S device with MicroSD and removable battery.

Really I think it feels faster than my note 4. COULD BE THAT IT'S ROOTED WITH A CUSTOM ROM!!! And yes I agree it is actually a pretty good for factor all the way around. Might would consider a 128gb s6 though !