Hi Guys,
My 2012 Nexus 10 is showing its age and I am desperate for a new tablet. I waited so long for Galaxy Tab S2, but I am kinda disappointed with its spec. old 5433 SoC and 4:3 screen with downgraded ppi and resolution ! so I am thinking about Galaxy Tab S, what do you think about it after lollipop update ? I heard many users complained about its lags and underpowered SoC, would you recommend it ? also how is the custom ROM community for it ? I can see there are a couple custom ROMs but are there stable enough to for daily usage ? I remember exynos had very limited developer support, so there was not many great ROMs for exynos devices out there, what do you think ? Galaxy Tab S or S2 ?
The S1 is a masterpiece the S2 is a frankenstein monster, 4:3 spit, virtually mono sound spit, so looks plain jane spit, no camera flash spit, no if-red spit, portrait design spit, I though it was an Galaxy Tab A by the photo`s it looks so cheap.
Exynos version has loads of rom`s, snapdragon version hardly any, If you want stability stick to kitkat, if your fine with flashing have fun with different roms.
John
But what about the lags and stutters on kitkat ? I heard lollipop fixed that. is it true ?
I have had no lag or stutter on my 10.5" kitkat , I had it running continuously for 160 days, I never shut it down or restarted it, I only did a restart to re-calibrate my battery but i had no problems with the battery, it was just maintenance.
But i am not a gamer, I mostly watch video`s and browse the internet for at least an hour every day, but white on an oled display eats the battery, if you do a lot of browsing use night mode or get an lcd tablet.
John.
fifthelement said:
But what about the lags and stutters on kitkat ? I heard lollipop fixed that. is it true ?
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hmm. hard question. I personally would not get either right now. The s2 looks like a step backwards in the key areas, the darn screen.
the s has the lovely screen, but unless you can get a decent deal, its too long in the tooth to spend out a lot for.
its so irritating as there are no tabs which tick all the boxes. the experia z3 is good, but the res is lower, but everything else is up to speed.
dont get me wrong, I really do like my tablet, but who knows what is coming out in the next few months, or will be announced. I hope finally there is something which is progress in all areas.
The Tab S2 has a lower resolution screen than the Tab S (both resolution AND PPI), a significantly smaller battery and a marginally upgraded processor.
I'd wait for the true successor to the Tab S - which will likely a more upmarket SAMOLED tablet, priced higher than the Tab S with a full metal body (Like the Galaxy Tab A) and more of a competitor for the iPad.
I prefer plastic to metal, metal is cold and when bent or dented it does not spring back like plastic also it blocks radio waves so you have to have non metal sections to let the waves in and out, Samsung are masters of durable plastic, you can bend the battery cover of their phones almost in two and it will spring back without any damage try that with metal.
John
So I bought my Tab S around a month ago and I have to say I'm in love with it! After seeing the specs of the Tab S 2 I knew straight away the device for me.
The tab s in my opinion tick pretty much every box the only thing I wish was better is the GPU for gaming (not that it plays games badly - they play well enough) but I can be quite picky and if I'm not getting the max FPS from a game I feel upset! Everything else on the tablet is perfect and I'm the kind of chap that sells his devices every couple of months for the latest better version but this is the first device I've come across that I've not even looked at replacing, well worth the £300 I spent for it. The xperia z4 tablet is now out and it's specs are majorly impressive but it's thick bezels I think make it an ugly design, I love the thin sides of the Tab S, another tablet I've been looking at is the Microsoft Surface Pro 3 but again after seeing it in the shop I think it's quite ugly and put a Bluetooth keyboard, mouse and hancom fine with my tab s and it's replaced my laptop, which I'm selling on eBay at the moment as it hasn't been used since I bought my tablet.
I'm a network manager at a school and have used my Tab S for a hell of a lot including connecting to multiple servers and writing 30 page policies. It's a great little device.
I upgraded to Lollipop but I'm using IronRom instead of stock and I have to say it's very stable and very fast. No lag. On antutu I got around the 4100 mark with all my GPU and CPU over locked it's just as powerful as an S5 phone. I'd recommend it to anyone and already multiple family members and the girlfriend have ordered one after seeing mine.
Sorry this was long but I hope it helped
Comes down to a few questions:
Do you value performance. The Exnos 5420 is a 2 year old processor. The 5433/7410 is a 1 year old processor (though it is a 20nn version of the 7420 in the S6)
Do you value battery life. The Tab S2 8.0 has a battery that is 20% smaller than the original tab. It may be that the 20nn processor and smaller newer screen are more efficient but I don't expect better battery life.
Do you value longevity/updates: The Tab S2 is a year newer so it will have its updates discontinued later than the Tab S.
Does display ratio matter to you: If you mostly read, the Tab S2 may be a dream come true. If you mostly watch videos, it's a disaster.
Do you value internal storage: Other than a best buy limited edition model, the Tab S has 16gb storage. The S2 has 32GB.
It seems like the Tab S2 is a Galaxy Note 4 (international) turned into a tablet. The Tab S was the Galaxy Note 3 (international) turned into a tablet.
This is a tough question for me. I re-bought the Tab S 8.4 for 190 (ridiculous deal best buy had a few months ago) after leaving it late last year to try other tablets (The Xperia Z3 Tablet and the Venue 7840). I also bought the Tab S 8.4 on day 1 last year (great deal, $350 for the tablet, Samsung cover, and 16gb sd card) to replace my Tab Pro 8.4 that I bought on day 1. I'm leaning towards getting it if the same deal is in play.
I have asked basic maths for help:
smaller side of t800 is 5.87 inch and of t810 is 5.82 inch...
So I do not see any advantage for browsing in new generation...
rp3 said:
Comes down to a few questions:
Do you value performance. The Exnos 5420 is a 2 year old processor. The 5433/7410 is a 1 year old processor (though it is a 20nn version of the 7420 in the S6)
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Unfortunately yes he is right here as the Tab S processor is a year older, though I find it very quick and non-laggy when using IronRom on lollipop. As stated above the one thing I'd change is GPU performance but remember you always have over clocking when you root!
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Do you value longevity/updates: The Tab S2 is a year newer so it will have its updates discontinued later than the Tab S.
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Best thing about android is that you can flash a custom ROM so updates never bother me as I can always flash a latest build of Cyanogenmod if needs be.
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Do you value internal storage: Other than a best buy limited edition model, the Tab S has 16gb storage. The S2 has 32GB.
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I have 16GB internal storage on my Tab S including a 128GB memory card. Everything including apps is stored on my memory card thanks to the app "foldermount" you must be rooted though, I don't think the Tab S 2 has expandable storage but I could be wrong.
Good Point the S1 beats the S2 in both horizontal and vertical resolution, so the S2 is not really better for browsing, though you have to turn the S1 10.5" to portrait mode as it`s an landscape tablet while the S1 8.4" is an portrait style already.
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/co...ch,Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-S-10.5/phones/9385,8662
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/co...nch,Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-S-8.4/phones/9384,8663
John.
ivanox1972 said:
I have asked basic maths for help:
smaller side of t800 is 5.87 inch and of t810 is 5.82 inch...
So I do not see any advantage for browsing in new generation...
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Thank you all for your responses and opinions, I guess I would go for a Galaxy Tab S. but I will wait until S2 is released so I can get a good deal. I expect galaxy tab s gets a discount when s2 is released.
S1 - just bought my third for the household, was holding out for the S2 but so glad i did not wait for a iPad Air copy.
This morning I read that the S2 comes with Android 5.0.2 and started to laugh. Seriously 5.1.1 has been out for months including on a few Samsung devices. At the glacial pace that Samsung updates their tablet OS versions Android M will have been out for at least three months before the S2 gets v5.1.1, what a joke.
That on top of an older processor makes you wonder why they even bothered. I'm very happy to have bought my S 10.5 at almost $70 less retail, a few months ago, rather than this laughable new flagship tablet. Samsung's advantage of the best screen technology in the industry is getting sabotaged by very odd engineering decisions. It seems like the tablet division is run by their B team.
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Frankly speaking, I would never buy an S2 over the Tab S. At the moment on the Tab S you can have Lollipop, Xposed, custom kernels with F2FS, and the tablet flies, literally.
Yeah, but with the S2 you have like errr emm eerrr nothing help!!!!
John.
stopa10 said:
Frankly speaking, I would never buy an S2 over the Tab S. At the moment on the Tab S you can have Lollipop, Xposed, custom kernels with F2FS, and the tablet flies, literally.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=P28m9cwa47E
Samsung tab s2 hands on and comparison with tab s. In English . According to this guy tab s2 has much more per and pricing will be matched to tab S.
ivanox1972 said:
I have asked basic maths for help:
smaller side of t800 is 5.87 inch and of t810 is 5.82 inch...
So I do not see any advantage for browsing in new generation...
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Well, the advantage is that is almost the same viewing area but in a smaller and lighter package. Also, much more natural than the awkwardness that 16:10 is in portrait on such a large tablet as the tab S IMO. YMMV.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=P28m9cwa47E
Samsung tab s2 hands on and comparison with tab s. In English . According to this guy tab s2 has much more per and pricing will be matched to tab S.
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That video sure did nothing to change my mind that the S2 is a step backward. Especially the comparison of reading the magazine which showed nothing visually while the video playback did demonstrate the smaller picture and unused screen black bars. Is Samsung going to pronounce, to video watchers, that the black bars on video playback is actually a way to extend your battery life? Which maybe needed as the thinner design and aspect ratio has reduced overall battery size. It is going to be tough to polish a turd and sell it at a flag ship price.
After reading the S2 details I'm still amazed that the OS is v5.0.2 and it does not have the same processor that the S6 phone uses. What were they thinking?
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Hello!
Can someone who has used these two phones tell me pls if it's worth the upgrade?
1.Do you feel that extra processor clock speed and the extra 500mb ram?
2.How does the qHD AMOLED screen on the mini compare to the S2 AMOLED Plus display (is the slighty increased resolution noticeable? how is the color reproduction - the white)?
Well let's put it this way. GSMArena did a full review complete with benchmarks. The s4 mini has 2 krait 300 cores, the s2 and s3 have 2 and 4 cortex A9 cores respectively. S4 mini uses the adreno 305 whereas the s2/3 use the mali 400mp (not sure if they have the same core count though)
The s4 mini with its 2 cores beat the the s3 in every benchmark except for Antutu. S3 was 1000 points higher, due to having 2 more cores no doubt.
*EDIT: After running Antutu on my phone, the S4 Mini is actually faster than the S3 in Antutu.
As for RAM all I can say is that out of the 1.32Gb available, 776mb is in use.
Concerning the screen, I can't help with that. This is my first phone using AMOLED.
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Well let's put it this way. GSMArena did a full review complete with benchmarks. The s4 mini has 2 krait 300 cores, the s2 and s3 have 2 and 4 cortex A9 cores respectively. S4 mini uses the adreno 305 whereas the s2/3 use the mali 400mp (not sure if they have the same core count though)
The s4 mini with its 2 cores beat the the s3 in every benchmark except for Antutu. S3 was 1000 points higher, due to having 2 more cores no doubt.
As for RAM all I can say is that out of the 1.32Gb available, 776mb is in use.
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thank you it would be great if someone who used the phones in real life could tell us how the two compare.
my s2 uses 520ram with 3 pages filled with widges. the 776mb used on the mini are with no widgets and one page screen?
Alright cleared my RAM. Went to home screen then checked my RAM again. 668mb used. 6 home pages with 3 of them full of widgets. The other 3 are just filled with app shortcuts.
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Hello!
Can someone who has used these two phones tell me pls if it's worth the upgrade?
1.Do you feel that extra processor clock speed and the extra 500mb ram?
2.How does the qHD AMOLED screen on the mini compare to the S2 AMOLED Plus display (is the slighty increased resolution noticeable? how is the color reproduction - the white)?
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I used an S2 while looking for a new phone when my Motorola Razr was stolen. Now I have the S4 mini, and I really, really enjoy it.
1. Yes, the S4 mini is a lot smoother, although the CPU is not the newest generation. The two cores do their job perfectly fine, and as the smartphone scene looks today, I can't see why you'd need a faster CPU. Besides, this CPU uses a lot less power than the newer generation quad cores.
2. Color reproduction is a lot better than S2. White is whiter, bright is brighter, colors are more colorful, black is.... Well, you get it. It's an upgrade. Also, the slightly higher resolution is just what this screen size needs. Perfect.
S2 vs S4 Mini
I upgraded a couple of weeks ago from the S2 to the S4 Mini, and still use both, although the S2 not so much any more, so here is my opinion:
1 - Yes, you do feel the difference in speed, everything happens that little bit smoother and faster, specially when you use the S2 and then the S4 mini right afterwards.
2 - here I don't notice that much difference, to tell you the truth. Maybe the colours are a touch more vivid.
Is it worth the upgrade? in my opinion yes. I wanted a small phone, the S3 and S4 are way too big for me, the mini is a bit lighter and more narrow then the S2, feels nice in my small hand, so I'm glad I switched.
I hope this helps.
bubu_bubu said:
Hello!
Can someone who has used these two phones tell me pls if it's worth the upgrade?
1.Do you feel that extra processor clock speed and the extra 500mb ram?
2.How does the qHD AMOLED screen on the mini compare to the S2 AMOLED Plus display (is the slighty increased resolution noticeable? how is the color reproduction - the white)?
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thx!
I got the S4mini as my 1st android device and i can truly say that im thouroughly enjoying it...
I came from a BB, and wanted a practical phone for my needs, which are mostly messaging. The flagship phones (HTC One, GS4, Xperia Z) are way too much excess for me.
Friends of mine with S2's are seriously considering the S4 mini for the size and for "futureproofing" as the specs are good enough from what they say
so the S4 mini suits my needs perfectly. Everyone I know cant stop commenting that its the "perfect size"
Hope you enjoy it if you get one
Here's a nice benchmark comparison.
My device is the S4 Mini.
Used an s2 briefly before getting the s4 mini and I corroborate with the above posters about the significant increase in performance.
Some games which feel jerky on the s2 runs smooth as butter on the s4 mini.
You should upgrade! I had i9100 and now i got i9192
I'm completely satisfied! This phone rocks...
To answer the first question in short, then yes - it is in fact worth upgrading the S4 mini. But I believe that it is only necessary if you haven't rooted your SGS2 and flashed a lightweight rom, haven't bought a new battery and it still works.
I have had my S4 mini (I9195) for one 1½ month - and I think it works as a very good upgrade for the S2 if you still want the medium sized screen and are not too focused on the speed. But I actually to think that the S4 mini is rather speedy - speedy enough for me.
I can recommend rooting the phone and installing CM 10.1 on it - as I have noticed that free RAM increases, and battery doesn't drain nearly as fast as stock ROM. Besides that I also think it picks up even more speed.
Just my 2 cents...
S4 mini is faster in interface and games. But game compatibility is very bad. S4 mini can run games with better graphics but in real on S2 you can run many more games with normal FPS. And with third-party software you can achieve the same smoothness of interface as well as S4 mini.
S4 mini is very poor quality of materials. It becomes shabby in one month, it's back cover is glossy and fingerprint magnet. Screen also covered with scratches in one month.
S2 have very high quality body, scratch-resistant back cover. S2 have LED indicator, USB-host (requires no power), videout by means of mhl. But S2 have not NFC and GLONASS that are present in i9195. Also S4 mini is significantly smaller.
S2 have lots of unofficial tweaks and ROMs. On S4 mini you can only flash CWM and root (I know of CM, but it not full functional now).
The final choice is yours!
On the contrary, my S4 Mini still looks great after 2 months. CM is fully functional and I encounter no issues with the latest nightly.
Game compatibility is an issue with the developers of the games but that is true that it is a downside as it is not such a recognised phone and thus developers tend to not add it in the supported list. Most major games are available though.
The lack of MHL and USB-OTG is a deal breaker for many so that's a key point you will want to look out for.
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You should buy Samsung Galaxy S4 mini i9195 is u going to buy any variant of s4 minis
This is the latest verison and and best.
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The lack of MHL and USB-OTG is a deal breaker for many so that's a key point you will want to look out for.
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Is this a software or hardware limitation? If it's soft, then it's quite possible it could be added later by custom roms.
That I'm not so sure. There doesn't seem to be any developers looking to add support for it though.
It probably will have to be a kernel-level implementation?
Can someone comment on the battery life on the S4 mini if compared to S2? Thanks
S4 Mini, Worthed ☺☻☺
GSNAréna is a good page!
But in total, the S4 Mini is a Very Good Phone!
It also offers LOSSLESS Digital Zoom up to x2.0 at FullHD! (and full x4.0 at HD 720p.)
It's got 8MP Camera, Gorilla Glass 2 and AndroiD Jelly Bean :laugh:. But don't ever Upgrade to KitKat! Be beware of it.
...but it's also got this Loved♥ Camera User Interface from the S4! (Note 3, all S4 Models, Variant of S4 Zoom and Mini)
In total, it's aproxmintly as good as the Galaxy S3 and S3 Néô.
...always reminds me to IAmTheOneTheyCallΠΣΘ.
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Worthd.
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3621&idPhone2=5375
The S4 mini and ←Ƶoom look Exactly the Same from one side. But the S4 Ƶoom has the Gorilla Glass 3. The S3 has GG2 and the S2 GG. (Siƶe≈First Galaxy S aka Galaxy Sunshine.)
Also See S3 vs S4Mini.
Samsung: LTE or RADIO. But WHY? Only one of those?
or Duos. There's not a Samsung Phone with more than 1 of those 3 (Galaxy S Duos has one but i mean newer than 2012).
LTÉ♦4G
Radio (UKW, FM)
More than 1 Sim Card in 1 Device (Dual/Triple//... ·◘Sim)
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Hi,
I'm going back and forth with this..
I have a budget around $400 to $450... and I basically want to use the table as a replacement of the laptop for basic stuff ( browsing, FB, youtube, videos, movies, email, etc). I like how IOS look right now, my mom has an ipad retina display and look and feel good, but my budget allow me to but the 16gb one... and isn't enought since I'm planning to copy movies on the table and watch them... beside ipads doesnt allow me to watch movies on divx, xvid, mkv, etc... I had to converted to mp4 and thats a hazzle...
I was thinking on buying the Tab Pro 10.1 because of the size, the screen definition and the battery life... but now that the Tab S is around the corner I don't know what to do... I don't care about the fingerprint... the Super Amoled is a nice touch (I have a galaxy S4) but the screen on the Pro look good enought for me... the selling point for me is the extra GB of ram...I don't know if is really work it to pay extra for that GB of ram (assuming that I can go up to $500 for the galaxy S 10.5) or paying the same as the Pro 10.1 ($400 on amazon) for the Galaxy S 8.4 and downgrade the size of the screen...
What do you guys say? Ipad air ($450), Pro 10.5 ( $400), S 8.4 ($400) or S10.5 ($500). Paying an extra $100 for 1GB of ram seem pricy to me if the feeling and performance is similar of the 2gb pro 10.1.... but I don't know if the cost/benefit is really good?
I bought a Tab Pro 10.1. It's not perfect, but I'm pretty happy. Obviously it's what I would do, since it's what I did. Just make sure Tha at you are comfortable doing a root... Of course that's the case with any android device.
Good luck!
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Well, you could save yourself some money by buying the iPad as a refurb straight from apple. It comes down to the ecosystem and os that you prefer. Is ios nice? Sure. But does it work for you? Do you struggle with the 2gb of ram in your phone today? If not then I wouldn't worry about the 2 vs 3gb of ram. If you're worried about ram, I'm pretty sure iPad air only has 1gb.
I've tried 2 different ipads and I keep coming back to android. I just started using a tab 8.4 today and it's smooth. If you keep a ton of apps open at once then it may get laggy, but I'd imagine the iPad would have the same issues. The iPad air has what seems limitless keyboards, cases...while there are significantly less for the tab pro. I think the s line is going to have Samsung accessories.
Don't forget the real file browser, micro sd, USB support, and vast selection of keyboards on androids. You can't really go wrong with any of them, all nice devices. Pick the he one that fits your budget and hits your biggest priorities.
I have a tab pro 8.4 and it is a really good tablet. I am considering getting the pro 10.5. I've also thought about an iPad air too, so I am in a similar situation. I do love the fact that the iPad has a plethora of keyboard case options. Supposedly with the S Series Samsung is going to get more Keyboard cases. Logitech has already announced one for the 10.5.
I am probably going to go with the pro 10.5. If you have a micro SD card it is really simple to expand the storage in which the iPad would not be able to do. If you already have purchased apps on your Android phone, it's much easier just to use an Android tablet then using an iPad and paying more money for apps you already have.
That's how I work things out in my head anyway.
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I am a long time user of apple , I think apple lost me after the 4S, the closed ecosystem is terrible in my view. So I switched to nexus 5 and never looked back. On tablet I bought the tab 8.4 , and put aside my iPad retina . I last week upgrade it to iOS 8 , and have to say I'm disappointed and not impressed . so I'm still loyal to my macbook on the PC side. But as far as tablet and phone no question in my mind that you get better value and better ecosystem in an android device. I also didn't root my tab, only put on it Google now lquncher and I love it , love the density and sharpness of the screen
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Jumping in the thread :
So I got 7 and 10.1 tablets in the past. They both have their strengths and weaknesses but I would like to have your opinions on the 8.4/10.1 Pro more specifically.
By default, I'd go with the 10.1 for the bigger screen and battery especially as it seems quite light, especially in comparison to my past 10.1 devices.
However, the 8.4 seems to have more ROM support and looks more powerful. Plus, the 8.4 format allows a better grip with one hand. But I'm afraid the battery won't hold as much as I want to.
So, here my questions :
- Is there any work done on CM11 for the 10.1 ?
- How comfortable is the 10.1 to hold ?
- Is the 8.4 really much more powerful and snappy ?
Thanks !
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Jumping in the thread :
So I got 7 and 10.1 tablets in the past. They both have their strengths and weaknesses but I would like to have your opinions on the 8.4/10.1 Pro more specifically.
By default, I'd go with the 10.1 for the bigger screen and battery especially as it seems quite light, especially in comparison to my past 10.1 devices.
However, the 8.4 seems to have more ROM support and looks more powerful. Plus, the 8.4 format allows a better grip with one hand. But I'm afraid the battery won't hold as much as I want to.
So, here my questions :
- Is there any work done on CM11 for the 10.1 ?
- How comfortable is the 10.1 to hold ?
- Is the 8.4 really much more powerful and snappy ?
Thanks !
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You need to be more specific on the 10.1... For the 10.1 LTE (sm-t525 aka picassolte) CM11 is coming along nicely but for the WiFi only 10.1 (sm-t520) there is no known work on it for CM11.
I was thinking about the Wifi version, sorry. I forgot that the LTE model is also Snapdragon and benefits, I guess, of the work done on the 8.4.
Acutally, I need my tablet for some productivity as well. Mostly, taking meeting notes on the go. Is the 8.4 screen big enough in landscape to do so ?
Hello Guys,
I'm looking to get a tablet soon and i was wondering if you guys can give me a little input.
I love the screen on the tab S but i love the feel the stock android on the nexus.
Are there any roms that will allow the tab s to simulate stock android? TW is horrible and clunky.
Not yet. And nexus is much more powerful cause of it's hardware
No micro sd card on the Nexus is a deal breaker for me.
There are really only two reasons to by this tablet over the Nexus - Amoled and SD card, everything is arguable superior on the nexus being later hardware. If neither of these things are important to you there really no reason to buy this now. For SD card and Amoled were crucial.
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There are really only two reasons to by this tablet over the Nexus - Amoled and SD card, everything is arguable superior on the nexus being later hardware. If neither of these things are important to you there really no reason to buy this now. For SD card and Amoled were crucial.
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Agreed.
Nice read.
Compare N9 vs Tab S 10.5
http://www.androidheadlines.com/category/tablet/tablet-comparisons
I love my tab s! Micro sdcard slot was a must for me. The screen takes the tab s to the next level.
I also like mine. But in some point I will must try Nexus 9, only if samsung give us some lollipop experience in the future I will stay
I was debating this too but the 4:3 nexus screen made be buy a tab s 8.4 pretty good except for a little lag here and there great screen
No wait and buy nexus 9 it is fantastic buy the 32 one
It has very very bowerful hardware it gaves me 60000 in antutu
The rab s gaves me 39000
Nexusu has fantastec sound quality from speakers and headphone
Is is very damm fast no lag at all
Tab s lags with stock based roms
Get nexus 9
Tab S: Watching TV shows / Movies / Anime
Nexus 9: Playing games or reading (such as web browsing). Plus Pure Android
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Tab S: Watching TV shows / Movies / Anime
Nexus 9: Playing games or reading (such as web browsing). Plus Pure Android
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Rather than buying 2 tablets for specific purposes it would be nice if Samsung would just use a different CPU. Not asking them to admit an error in not choosing the Snapdragon, but it sounds like just that. 4:3 rules out the Nexus for me. Really need one of the other makers to buy the screen from Samsung and make a tablet that checks all the boxes. Unfortunately Verizon charges a full hundred dollars more for the LTE variant with Snapdragon CPU.
i will sell my tab s and buy nexus 9
I was in the same predicament last week. Upgrading my Nexus 7, only use the tablet for watching movies, youtube and browsing social media.
I decided to go with the tab s 10.5 32gb.
Mainly for the amoled screen, and expandable memory.
I'll root it, freeze bs Samsung apps and throw Nova prime on it and I should be good to go. Some xposed mods too..
I think that the Samsung products are better. Maybe Nexus will be more devs or updates but, sincerely, I can't do a paragon...different worlds. Samsung forever.
Many apps are not compatible with lollipop on the Nexus 9 at this time even though dev had 6 months to get ready.
Hey,
I do not own a tab s but I am seriously considering it after returning a Nexus 9. I was super excited for the nexus 9 but it was extremely disappointing. First off the screen is seriously lacking quality, really dull colors and you really roll the dice when it comes to light bleed. If you go over to the nexus 9 forum you can see there's a whole thread of people comparing light bleed. Some are absolutely terrible, the one I had was ok but you could definitely notice it and it drove me crazy.
On the up side android 5 is very nice but right now it drains battery like no ones business. I was getting around 4 hours screen time just using chrome and web browsing with the brightness about half way. The battery life at least right now is unacceptable. The speakers are a nice touch but I found they distorted very quickly once you get higher up in volume. There's also the heat issue, the nexus 9 gets very hot. From about the camera over to the middle of the device it can get mildly uncomfortable even just web browsing seemed to bring this thing up to 40 C or so.
Like I said I was really excited about the nexus 9, I thought it was the one for me. There are just too many flaws for a device that isn't really that affordable in the grand scheme of things. That said I haven't had my hands on any of the tab s line so any owners please let me know if any of these issues are also present in that line.
Tab s with cm11 FTW!
rowihel2012 said:
No wait and buy nexus 9 it is fantastic buy the 32 one
It has very very bowerful hardware it gaves me 60000 in antutu
The rab s gaves me 39000
Nexusu has fantastec sound quality from speakers and headphone
Is is very damm fast no lag at all
Tab s lags with stock based roms
Get nexus 9
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lol wtf is going on here?
Enviado do meu Galaxy Tab S
I was going to purchase the Nexus 9 but after reading all the problems I purchased the LTE 8.4 tab s and absolutely love the screen. It does have an odd stutter once in awhile. IMO the Nexus change to 4:3 screen was a step backwards.
Howdy, folks.
I'm in the market for a tablet, and not familiar with the Samsung lineup, so I could use some guidance here.
First, I'm not sure I understand the difference between the A and S series. I assume it's a CPU issue, and I seem to recall a Tab A that I played around with didn't have an accelerometer and/or GPS, which are both critical for me.
Then we get to the firmware. I need to run Xposed and Xprivacy. Obviously that means I'll need to be able to root the machine. Would I be correct in assuming that I'm stuck with getting an S2, or is it possible to downgrade an S3 so I can benefit from the better hardware specs?
My choices seem to be an S2 at $480 or an S3 at $550 except that the S3 ships with a pen and LP, if I'm not mistaken, which knocks me out of the box in terms of running Xprivacy unless I can downgrade the OS.
Anyway, your input here would be helpful, and any pointers on unlocking / rooting would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
I think since late 2014, the Samsung tablets were split into just two lines, the Tab S, the high-end line, and the Tab A, the low cost line. In my humble opinion, the Tab A line is utter crap and it hasn't been updated effectively since 2015. If you want a cheap low end tablet, you might as well just buy one of those sub-100 dollar Amazon Fire tablets. Their specs are in the neighborhood of those Tab A tablets, but Fire tablets are much cheaper. Quite sadly, I think Samsung's high end line Tab S has also lost its way. I mean, I certainly love the idea of a high end Android tablet, but not at 500-600USD, specially when it comes with outdated flagship SoC, like the Snapdragon 820.
I love my Tab S 10.5, but if I am forced to replace it tomorrow, I'll probably get the Huawei Mediapad M3. Its hardware specs are high end enough to check nearly every box, and it costs under 300USD.
Excellent suggestion. I was wondering about alternatives to Samsung.
How would you compare the M3 to the S3? Can it be rooted? The new Samsung got excellent reviews for both construction and performance, and I confess the pen has appeal. I also wanted a 10"-ish screen, and the Huawei comes in at 8, so while the price is right, you give up a fair amount of screen.
I can pick up the S3 32 gig with a keyboard case for $550, which was more than I wanted to spend, but i can live with it since I'm not the type to buy a new device every year. Or even every two or three years, for that matter.
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I have purchased 5 Tab A devices, 3 T280 and 2 T555. Me the missus and little one have the T280, my mother and I have the T555. Both have an accelerometer and GPS. I don't know of a Samsung tablet that doesn't unless you meant gyroscope?
The Tab A T280 is stuck on Lollipop and the T550 runs Nougat.
I don't have issues with either for how I use them.
I also own the Tab S, but I use the Tab A T555 far more as it's light, comfortable to hold and runs just fine.
BillTheCat said:
Excellent suggestion. I was wondering about alternatives to Samsung.
How would you compare the M3 to the S3? Can it be rooted? The new Samsung got excellent reviews for both construction and performance, and I confess the pen has appeal. I also wanted a 10"-ish screen, and the Huawei comes in at 8, so while the price is right, you give up a fair amount of screen.
I can pick up the S3 32 gig with a keyboard case for $550, which was more than I wanted to spend, but i can live with it since I'm not the type to buy a new device every year. Or even every two or three years, for that matter.
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The first thing I do when looking for a new tab is xda support, if you can't get a custom rom for it, forget it!
M3 support is thin to non-existant, they are just getting it to root, and no TWRP ( I think) , other than that its the best hardware for the price. Tab s2 is good, Tab A fair, s3 just starting.
Xposed is now officially on NU, the main framework has been released, modules compatibility varies.
For that amount of cash, your in ultrabook / chromebook territory.
A tablet that does not fit in a pocket, and costs the same as a dell ultrabook with 256 gb hdd and an i5, is a bad choice maybe?
I use my t705 as a pocket device, with the aspect ratio it just fits, and the fact that's its also a very cool phone makes it a nobrainer.
Also remember the folding screens are just months away, once they are out most of the current tabs will be obselete real quick.
I want something larger format (~10") for use when doing demos for customers, casual browsing or web work away from my desk or when traveling for short spans. An 8" screen is not of interest.
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Dear XDA
thanks for reading. I saw a similar post regarding whether to buy the Tab S4. I am an android fan, switched from IOS a few years ago. I have S9 phone, Tab A tablet, and want to upgrade to a better samsung tablet now.
My question is... based on rumors, pipeline, etc, should I get the Tab S4 (699CHF currently in Switzerland for LTE version), or wait for the new tablet (will there be one from samsung?) since I have a current one that is still functional?
Thank you so much
Cheers
gp
Which version of the Tab A do you have, 10.1 or the newer 10.5? The 10.1 will have physical buttons.
The main differences would be improved performance and the amoled display. A little lighter maybe and better materials\construction?
I would have upgraded from my Tab S 10.1 now, I use it 90% for watching videos, but decided to wait while the issues with HDR playback fixed.
Also, not happy the mounting holes for cases have been dropped, I don't like the way a case will need to wrap around the edges to attach. Because the back is glass not using a case isn't an option either, maybe a skin will work.
Mujja said:
Which version of the Tab A do you have, 10.1 or the newer 10.5? The 10.1 will have physical buttons.
The main differences would be improved performance and the amoled display. A little lighter maybe and better materials\construction?
I would have upgraded from my Tab S 10.1 now, I use it 90% for watching videos, but decided to wait while the issues with HDR playback fixed.
Also, not happy the mounting holes for cases have been dropped, I don't like the way a case will need to wrap around the edges to attach. Because the back is glass not using a case isn't an option either, maybe a skin will work.
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Thanks Mujja
it's the 10.1 with physical buttons, the bargain one.
When you say "I would have upgraded from my Tab s 10.1..." do you mean that you didn't?
Thank you
Still have the Tab S 10.1. I'm using a lightweight 7.1 ROM with Viper4Android to boost and tweak the audio. In combination with MX Player it's a very capable device for playing movies and I still get 6+ hours screen on time.
I skipped the Tab S2 and S3 due to 4:3 screen ratio and was excited when the S4 was released but will wait until better HDR playback support.
It doesn't look like the Tab S5 isn't coming out this year, at least from what I've read. They tend to keep the flagship tablets a bit longer than their phones. The Tab S4 is worth it, in my opinion. I have the LTE version through Tmobile. I wish they had bumped up the entry-level storage but 64 GB is still more than enough, especially since I have the 512 GB Note 9 and my main device.
Don't wait, buy a S4 on sale or second hand. Let's get realistic. Android Tablets are endangered, almost extincted. The next product will be either under ChromeOS or won't be at all.
It's a good product and users seems happy with it (it was not the case of Tab S3). It was too expensive when release but now, it's half the price of an Ipad Pro 11 but it's not half of its quality an feature.
papopato said:
My question is... based on rumors, pipeline, etc, should I get the Tab S4 (699CHF currently in Switzerland for LTE version), or wait for the new tablet (will there be one from samsung?) since I have a current one that is still functional?
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New tablet just announced
Mujja said:
New tablet just announced
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Nice find!
aspexil said:
Nice find!
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https://youtu.be/M1YXDvb6P0M ...nice but with snapdragon 670...
It doesn't woth to wait. I would have expect Chrome OS instead of Android. Better to buy the S4 with the dropped price rather this tab..