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[Q] For the brave developers. Assure view without spen

I love GMD spen gesture controlling app.
Samsung has made things in these phones that the finger touch will not work when spen is on screen. It's pretty much super and useful. But, I saw GMD gesture controlling app working while I'm writing in the screen with spen. It's an error. But here I'm not asking you to fix it. I appreciate it, because you could do it with your app. Now what I need is that, air view feature without spen. The Note series models (NOTE2, 10.1,8) uses the same features that xperia sola or today's release, s4 for the air view. So I think that Samsung had restricted finger air view feature for the promotion of spen, same as restricting finger touch while s pen in use. Since GMD gesture controlling app could remove the restriction of finger touch while spen in use, I hope that you could do this too(air view without spen). so I request you to try it. So can you?

I guess bumping up the touch sensitivity could do it.
But there are two problems:
1. I don't know if the sensitivity on our device can go that high.
2. There is no supported software. You won't get previews as the software on the Note 2 is build for Air View by the S Pen, and would not recognize Air View with a finger.

But, s4 has same technology..
DubelBoom said:
there is no supported software. You won't get previews as the software on the Note 2 is build for Air View by the S Pen, and would not recognize Air View with a finger.
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But, s4 and note 2 shows same software features in air view. S4 is by hand and note2 by s pen. Also, the technology is same. What I guess is that Samsung would make it happen in next update. But I wish to get it early. The update will take2 months or so long. They will need s4 to click the ground.

Take a look at this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2190830
Edit: Most of the features announced for the S4 will not come to previous devices like Note I & II and the S3. Not officially anyway, because that would harm S4 sales.
So...don't count on official airview on the Note 2, ever.
Maybe Note 3!

ashiqrafa said:
But, s4 and note 2 shows same software features in air view. S4 is by hand and note2 by s pen. Also, the technology is same. What I guess is that Samsung would make it happen in next update. But I wish to get it early. The update will take2 months or so long. They will need s4 to click the ground.
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But the software wouldn't know what to do with the finger hovering, devs will need to rewrite parts (if possible, I'm not sure) so the app would pop the text/image/anything else.

Always, the profit is for Samsung
Intruder7s said:
most of the features announced for the S4 will not come to previous devices like Note I & II and the S3. Not officially anyway, because that would harm S4 sales.
So...don't count on official airview on the Note 2, ever.
Maybe Note 3!
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No it's not the truth. If companies fear such type of sale affection, apple wouldn't have provided the iOS6 update for previous iPhone models. The note 2 released with unique multi window feature and see currently the previous released s3 and note 1 got it. Also, if Samsung fears the affection for their super phone, then they wouldn't have released the galaxy grand. We should think things in the other way, if the update bring same features of s4 to note 2, n2 is going to be the best with unique spen features. It may affect the sales of s4, but it never affect the profit if Samsung. Whatever the model is, phone is of Samsung's.

Intruder7s said:
Take a look at this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2190830
Edit: Most of the features announced for the S4 will not come to previous devices like Note I & II and the S3. Not officially anyway, because that would harm S4 sales.
So...don't count on official airview on the Note 2, ever.
Maybe Note 3!
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Any source and note 2 features like air view came to note 1 and s3 also then why we will not get s4 features?? Maybe we will get it after some months or so...

The S3 does not have air view.
@OP
Note 2 is bigger and has double the RAM of the S3. Plus the S- Pen.
So they have no fear to also boost S3 a bit as well.
But the S3 and S4 do not have many differences in hardware with each other so Samsung has to make them a bit different also software wise as well as hardware wise because the hardware is not improved enough for an S3 owner to make the jump.
This is my thinking.

Intruder7s said:
The S3 does not have air view.
@OP
Note 2 is bigger and has double the RAM of the S3. Plus the S- Pen.
So they have no fear to also boost S3 a bit as well.
But the S3 and S4 do not have many differences in hardware with each other so Samsung has to make them a bit different also software wise as well as hardware wise because the hardware is not improved enough for an S3 owner to make the jump.
This is my thinking.
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But Samsung released galaxy grand at lower price specs same as s3. for Samsung, all those are not a problem. If they consider so, then they wouldn't have released the updated touchwiz upgrade for note1. Note 1 and note2 look pretty similar.

Intruder7s said:
The S3 does not have air view.
@OP
Note 2 is bigger and has double the RAM of the S3. Plus the S- Pen.
So they have no fear to also boost S3 a bit as well.
But the S3 and S4 do not have many differences in hardware with each other so Samsung has to make them a bit different also software wise as well as hardware wise because the hardware is not improved enough for an S3 owner to make the jump.
This is my thinking.
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Ya because it did not have stylus spen.if u try note stylus it will have that..I think lets stop this ..it will be great if samsung provide us the update all will be happy

Samsung will release an update by the end of may that is after two months of s4 launch.
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i think it is possible on the s4 beacause it has a more sensitive touch(u can use it with gloves)... and that is a hardware feature, so it is not likely that our note 2 will have it ever...

Can anybody help me to get this feature? I want to open popup note without using s pen's done tap. What I mean is a way to add shortcut in home screen

thez3ro said:
i think it is possible on the s4 beacause it has a more sensitive touch(u can use it with gloves)... and that is a hardware feature, so it is not likely that our note 2 will have it ever...
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Samsung vp confirms that s3 will get features like air touch with the help of front camera maybe.
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[Q] Sell iPad 4 for Tab Pro 8.4 ?

As the title says, should i sell my ipad 4 for a Tab Pro 8.4 ?
I hardly use my ipad as i don't feel the need to pick it up and there's nothing on it that draws me to use it.
Whats peoples opinions with tablet, are there any considerations i should make i.e known issues etc ?
If i was to get the tab 8.4 ill be flashing cyanogenmod on it strait away, are there any alternative tablets that i should consider that have cyanogenmod support or is this one of the best options on the market ?
Cheers :good:

nags92 said:
As the title says, should i sell my ipad 4 for a Tab Pro 8.4 ?
I hardly use my ipad as i don't feel the need to pick it up and there's nothing on it that draws me to use it.
Whats peoples opinions with tablet, are there any considerations i should make i.e known issues etc ?
If i was to get the tab 8.4 ill be flashing cyanogenmod on it strait away, are there any alternative tablets that i should consider that have cyanogenmod support or is this one of the best options on the market ?
Cheers :good:
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I used an iPad Air before switching to Tab Pro 8.4. Overall I prefer Tab Pro for the following reasons.
1. Lighter - Easier to use with one hand.
2. Google Chrome - So much better than Safari on iPad Air which keeps crashing. Might be due to the small amount of RAM that the iPad has.
3. Easier to transfer files to the tablet. Any apps can access the files on the sdcard as well.
4. Easier to write an app and install it - there is no need for a paid dev account just to install an app to your own device.
That said, there are still some things that are better on the iPad in my opinion:
1. Multitasking gesture.
2. Screen. iPad's screen is still slightly better, I think. Auto brightness also works better on the iPad. Also PDF reading is better on iPad's 10" screen.
3. iPad Air's A7 SoC has better single thread performance than Snapdragon 800 in Tab Pro 8.4. This doesn't apply to you though, since iPad 4 uses A6 which is slower.
The only issue I had before flashing CM11 is the horrible TouchWiz

slowpoke97 said:
I used an iPad Air before switching to Tab Pro 8.4. Overall I prefer Tab Pro for the following reasons.
1. Lighter - Easier to use with one hand.
2. Google Chrome - So much better than Safari on iPad Air which keeps crashing. Might be due to the small amount of RAM that the iPad has.
3. Easier to transfer files to the tablet. Any apps can access the files on the sdcard as well.
4. Easier to write an app and install it - there is no need for a paid dev account just to install an app to your own device.
That said, there are still some things that are better on the iPad in my opinion:
1. Multitasking gesture.
2. Screen. iPad's screen is still slightly better, I think. Auto brightness also works better on the iPad. Also PDF reading is better on iPad's 10" screen.
3. iPad Air's A7 SoC has better single thread performance than Snapdragon 800 in Tab Pro 8.4. This doesn't apply to you though, since iPad 4 uses A6 which is slower.
The only issue I had before flashing CM11 is the horrible TouchWiz
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1. Use gesture control
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.goodmooddroid.gesturecontrol
2. Use Lux
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vito.lux

I just traded a 1st Gen iPad and a 3rd Gen iPad in at bestbuy (flash 1 day $100 off sale!) last night to get the Tab Pro 8.4. Neither were being used, I basically looked at them to see if I needed to charge them and having switched to a Nexus 5 as well as having a Nexus 7 I really never used the iPads. The 8.4 is much better than the iPad1/3 IMO, and the 1st Gen N7 really can't stand up to either. I gave the N7 to my daughter.
Do it, especially if your not using the iPad, better to sell now and get max value than wait and hesitate. You should get close to $200 for it at BB.

dmunjal said:
1. Use gesture control
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.goodmooddroid.gesturecontrol
2. Use Lux
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vito.lux
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Thanks for the info. It would be nice if the gestures are available on stock android without root
Also, I know this is nitpicks, but the iPad's animation for multitouch gesture looks better since it sticks to the fingers. For example, with pinch to home gesture, the app's ui will be scaled down following the fingers' movement. But of course functionality wise they are the same

slowpoke97 said:
Thanks for the info. It would be nice if the gestures are available on stock android without root
Also, I know this is nitpicks, but the iPad's animation for multitouch gesture looks better since it sticks to the fingers. For example, with pinch to home gesture, the app's ui will be scaled down following the fingers' movement. But of course functionality wise they are the same
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I think Apple would sue Google if it was native to Android. I do miss the animation but it's much faster than the iPad.

dmunjal said:
I think Apple would sue Google if it was native to Android. I do miss the animation but it's much faster than the iPad.
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Ah right - patents.
I think the animation got faster after some iOS 7 update, although moving between apps is still a bit slow on the iPad.

Thanks for all of your input guys, if I can't find a buyer I'll more than likely trade it in some where for about £250 which isn't a lot.
Question is, white or black !
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[Q] Are you happy with your note 10.1 (2014 Edition)

I just ordered it and I will have my paws on my Note on Monday. I am very excited but I want to know what everyone else thinks. I have gone back and forth from Android to Apple and back. I wanted to go not only Android but back to Samsung. I am looking at going to the Galaxy Note 4 when that goes on sale next month.
But really. with not having root access (yet) are you still happy with the Note 10.1?

Happy? Yes, very.
I have the P605, so am rooted without knox fuse trip.
It took me a while to choose a tablet, UK Note 10.1" 2014's are only 16GB Wifi only versions AFAIK, and for the money I was spending I wanted better specs, so I had to order a Hong Kong p605 import which allowed me to have 3g/4g and have 32GB storage (64B would have been too much $$).
I was replacing a Note 1 (n7000) so needed something that I could use as a phone too, didn't want to mess with 2 devices, tethering, etc.
The only issue I have so far is a distinct lack of accessories. I wish there was a choice of docks, cases, etc.
So yeah, other than that, very happy, it is fast and smooth and does what I need it to.
Some UK carriers don't allow tablets to be used on their networks, my 3 sim detected and rejected my p605 saying it was not allowed, but that is not really the tablets fault.

randybellis said:
I just ordered it and I will have my paws on my Note on Monday. I am very excited but I want to know what everyone else thinks. I have gone back and forth from Android to Apple and back. I wanted to go not only Android but back to Samsung. I am looking at going to the Galaxy Note 4 when that goes on sale next month.
But really. with not having root access (yet) are you still happy with the Note 10.1?
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First let me say that some people are not happy with anything, and nothing is ever perfect.
I have a stock SM-P600 32 GB and I'm very happy. I also have a Stock GT-8013 that was restored back to stock from root and my wife is happy with it also.

Had my SM-P605 LTE tablet since December and still loving it. Not rooted and with OTA updates I am at KitKat 4.4.2. I use Nova Launcher and it's smooth as butter. No issues whatsoever. Enjoy your new baby

The best tablet ever, even sale my iPad to get this one and I dont regret it. I have upgrade to KK rooted and install custom rom. ?

Am I happy with the tablet? Thats a deffo yes it is truely an awesome tablet.
Am I happy with samsung updates? Thats a different subject lol. Either way overall theres no denying this tablet is amazing but maybe I'm just a tad wierd and slightly annoyed at the way Samsung handles their updates (Still no kitkat in UK 10 months on), I keep blabbering on that this is my last samsung product but who am I kidding - nothing compares in terms of note features. Will have to wait and see haha.
Anyhoo am sure you'll love it :thumbup:
Sent from Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition via Tapatalk.

enotar said:
The best tablet ever, even sale my iPad to get this one and I dont regret it. I have upgrade to KK rooted and install custom rom. ?
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I am doing the same thing. I wanted the galaxy tab s but did t want to spend that much money. This seems like a great tablet. Just hope the pixel quality looks better than my iPad mini.

The screen is outstanding, the performance is great, the spen works really well. I don't like that the USB plug is at the bottom of the device. You cannot charge the 10.1 while watching movies in landscape. The 12.2 has the plug on the side.

{Diemex} said:
The screen is outstanding, the performance is great, the spen works really well. I don't like that the USB plug is at the bottom of the device. You cannot charge the 10.1 while watching movies in landscape. The 12.2 has the plug on the side.
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If you rotate your device 180 degrees the screen rotates as well. then you can plug it in at the top and watch your movies.
I love my note, wouldn't mind an update in the UK though to KK. maybe one day?

Hong Kong 32gb p605 here, running stock 4.4.2 rooted with towel root. Very happy except for the lack of accessory options.
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{Diemex} said:
The screen is outstanding, the performance is great, the spen works really well. I don't like that the USB plug is at the bottom of the device. You cannot charge the 10.1 while watching movies in landscape. The 12.2 has the plug on the side.
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Is there a charging desk top dock for the note 10.1 2014?

randybellis said:
Is there a charging desk top dock for the note 10.1 2014?
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There is original dock station for our baby and also I have information from official samsung store that this one
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-S20JWEGSTA
also will work, still I did not test it yet.
To be in subject. I love my P605 and I hate Samsung that they did not focus more on promotion of it and there is few accessories in the market which you can get to it.
Second thing is the lack of support for many software designed for it. For example:
1. No possibility to unlock your PC(send ctrl+alt+del) when you are connect to it via Samsung Remote PC
2. Few note themes to SNotes - they could add much more
and much more.
Still it is defo worth to get it since it is still the best Tablet with Android in the market(TAB S don't have SPen and Xperia Z2 tablet is only marketing nymber1)
BR.

I have the exynos p600 and am very unhappy with it. I'm used to very fast speeds as I find on my smart phones but Samsung tablets lag way too much. Doesn't matter what specs you load them with. Touchwiz finds a way to hog it down. Tablet is decent..though build is cheap, back plate isn't even leather..its plastic made to look like leather. And the chrome..just awful. But I'm stuck with this as there a very few other android tablets worth swapping for at the moment
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sameer1807 said:
I have the exynos p600 and am very unhappy with it. I'm used to very fast speeds as I find on my smart phones but Samsung tablets lag way too much. Doesn't matter what specs you load them with. Touchwiz finds a way to hog it down. Tablet is decent..though build is cheap, back plate isn't even leather..its plastic made to look like leather. And the chrome..just awful. But I'm stuck with this as there a very few other android tablets worth swapping for at the moment
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I havent had an Android tablet in a while. My last was an ASUS T300 or something. I did have an 8 inch Galaxy Tab 2 last summer. I remember it being bogged down with Touch Wiz and being kinda laggy. Does putting another launcher (example: Nova Launcher) speed things up since you arent using the touch wiz launcher?

randybellis said:
I havent had an Android tablet in a while. My last was an ASUS T300 or something. I did have an 8 inch Galaxy Tab 2 last summer. I remember it being bogged down with Touch Wiz and being kinda laggy. Does putting another launcher (example: Nova Launcher) speed things up since you arent using the touch wiz launcher?
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Nova helps a bit, but the Kitkat update is probably also enough already.

Sort of; great tablet, great screen, pen is a blessing for school notes and drawings, the processor is a beast and it has enough ram. Now, i dont like almost anything that samsung did with it, it is either useless, buggy, slow or too small a detail to have touchwiz for. I wish i could deal with it installing cm or any other distribution but i have the p600 model so it seems i am ****ed. Sorry if i cant give opinion of roms like hydronium and xkat but i havent tried them because they seem to be only scrambled touchwiz.
All in all, for the price i got it for(around 400$) and with so so writing apps like "write" this is one of the only tablets that let me use it as a notebook so i am mildly happy with it.
TL;DR: Tablet is great, Touchwiz is not that great. Get p605 model.

Pazzu510 said:
Sort of; great tablet, great screen, pen is a blessing for school notes and drawings, the processor is a beast and it has enough ram. Now, i dont like almost anything that samsung did with it, it is either useless, buggy, slow or too small a detail to have touchwiz for. I wish i could deal with it installing cm or any other distribution but i have the p600 model so it seems i am ****ed. Sorry if i cant give opinion of roms like hydronium and xkat but i havent tried them because they seem to be only scrambled touchwiz.
All in all, for the price i got it for(around 400$) and with so so writing apps like "write" this is one of the only tablets that let me use it as a notebook so i am mildly happy with it.
TL;DR: Tablet is great, Touchwiz is not that great. Get p605 model.
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yeah...kinda wishing I would have gotten the Tab S instead. Maybe I will sell this on Craigslist or something and get the Tab S. Who knows

Simply put, F-yea
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I'm happy with this tablet, but not happy with stupid Samsung.

Very happy with this tablet, but can't stand TouchWiz and any of the S apps.
Replace TouchWiz with either Nova or Google launcher and S apps with anything else from Google Play (example: lecture notes).
About a year after Android L comes out and we are still on kit kat, I might feel a little different.
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tab s 10.5 vs note pro vs 12.2 vs butche note 4

I have a note 4 thats messed up. I use it as a tablet.
Should i: exchange it for a Verizon Note Pro, exchange it for a Tab s 32gb wifi, or keeping the note 4.
On my note 4 i use it to draw [sketchbookx + spen], youtube 1080p +, videos of my memory card [720p or less Quality], music, and a lot of browsing.
Of note i use the multi window feature alot, running several things at once. I also like how they minimize to a bubble if u need to get it out of ur way but dont want to closw it.
Note 12.2:
PROS: spen. Bigger canvas. possible update to note 4 muliti window
Cons: not a samoled screen, maybe outdate by now?, older Snapdragon chip, older software
Tab S wifi:
Pros: samoled screen
Cons: not a note device. Exynos chip. ill miss my muliwindow.
Any help?
Heres whats wrong with my note:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...k-note-4-problems-t2994574/page2#post58003556

GreeleyXda said:
I have a note 4 thats messed up. I use it as a tablet.
Should i: exchange it for a Verizon Note Pro, exchange it for a Tab s 32gb wifi, or keeping the note 4.
On my note 4 i use it to draw [sketchbookx + spen], youtube 1080p +, videos of my memory card [720p or less Quality], music, and a lot of browsing.
Of note i use the multi window feature alot, running several things at once. I also like how they minimize to a bubble if u need to get it out of ur way but dont want to closw it.
Note 12.2:
PROS: spen. Bigger canvas. possible update to note 4 muliti window
Cons: not a samoled screen, maybe outdate by now?, older Snapdragon chip, older software
Tab S wifi:
Pros: samoled screen
Cons: not a note device. Exynos chip. ill miss my muliwindow.
Any help?
Heres whats wrong with my note:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...k-note-4-problems-t2994574/page2#post58003556
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I would say, you should buy a Tab S, because you can also buy a pen for this tablet. Well it is not that great as the one is for the NotePro, but at least you can also use it like a pen.
Multiwindow feature has been ported to the Tab S, also the NotePro keyboard, so no problem with this things, maybe have a look here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/prerooted-stock-touchwiz-rom-t2973107
I would prefer a Tab S

To be frank I have Note pro and recently bought my Tab S, with its physical blue-tooth keyboard. Since I used that keyboard with the tablet, I could never go baTo be frank I have Note pro and recently bought my Tab S, with its physical bluetooth keyboard. Since I used that keyboard with the tablet, I could never go baack to anything else. I am just addidcted to it. ck to anything else. I am just addicted to it. To be frank I have Note pro and recently bought my Tab S, with its physical bluetooth keyboard. Since I used that keyboard with the tablet, I could never go back to anything else. I am just addicted to it.

Tkkg1994 said:
I would say, you should buy a Tab S, because you can also buy a pen for this tablet. Well it is not that great as the one is for the NotePro, but at least you can also use it like a pen.
Multiwindow feature has been ported to the Tab S, also the NotePro keyboard, so no problem with this things, maybe have a look here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/prerooted-stock-touchwiz-rom-t2973107
I would prefer a Tab S
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Why do you prefer the Tab S? Just because of the screen?
Can you give me some info on the pen fof the Tab S? The pen's quality is much more important to be than having a samoled over Lcd. I really dont mind an LCD screen, ive had an ipad before.

I would prefer a Tab S. I may be a little bias because I haven't owned the note one. However the only thing the note has over the Tab S is the S pen. (Please correct me if im wrong) Which has no use to me. So if you really rely on and would like the s pen then for that reason alone I'd imagine the note would be the smarter choice.
Unless your able to somehow use the S Pen on the Tab S. I don't think so but it's weird because when I was freezing apps to debloat I came across a file or two for the S Pen. No idea why.

But what does the Tab S have over the Note Pro 12.2?
Ive seen how nice the screen is on the Tab S. I havent seen the notes pro's screen but i have used a ipad air. So im ok with a LCD screen. The note has the same resolution as the Tab S just a slighyly lower ppi.
So the Screen being "better" isnt enough of a reason to me
Lets say both are the LTE models from Verizon, what does the Tab S do better?

GreeleyXda said:
But what does the Tab S have over the Note Pro 12.2?
Ive seen how nice the screen is on the Tab S. I havent seen the notes pro's screen but i have used a ipad air. So im ok with a LCD screen. The note has the same resolution as the Tab S just a slighyly lower ppi.
So the Screen being "better" isnt enough of a reason to me
Lets say both are the LTE models from Verizon, what does the Tab S do better?
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I'm assuming you're talking about the Note Pro 12.2" right? Well, the Tab S is thinnner and lighter than Note Pro, and just overall nicer to hold in the hands. I used both side by site at the official Samsung store and the decision was pretty easy.
I don't know how youy can say screen quality isn't important. The difference between AMOLED vs. LCD in Note Pro is night and day. This was one of the deciding factors for my buying a Tab S instead of the Nexus 9.
Unless you REALLY need the S-pen functionality, the Tab S is the superior tablet. I owned a Note 2 and only removed the S-pen from its silo exactly 3 times (1. to make sure it was there when I bought it; 2. to make sure it worked with Evernote; 3. to show it off to a friend).

rodrigorajao said:
I'm assuming you're talking about the Note Pro 12.2" right? Well, the Tab S is thinnner and lighter than Note Pro, and just overall nicer to hold in the hands. I used both side by site at the official Samsung store and the decision was pretty easy.
I don't know how youy can say screen quality isn't important. The difference between AMOLED vs. LCD in Note Pro is night and day. This was one of the deciding factors for my buying a Tab S instead of the Nexus 9.
Unless you REALLY need the S-pen functionality, the Tab S is the superior tablet. I owned a Note 2 and only removed the S-pen from its silo exactly 3 times (1. to make sure it was there when I bought it; 2. to make sure it worked with Evernote; 3. to show it off to a friend).
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I do actually use the spen a lot. Think ill try to get the tablets next to each other to see if the screen rly makes that big of a difference.

[Q] Tab S 8.4 or Tab PRO 8.4?

I currently have an original Nexus 7, which I love but it's getting increasingly laggy and the battery is awful. Though I'm loathe to lose the lovely stock android interface, I'm considering getting a galaxy tab (with a few tweaks it should be bearable!) as they seem to be some of the best on the market at the moment.
The Tab S and Tab Pro (8.4) are both available at John Lewis for £249 and £199 respectively for the wifi versions, and I can't make up my mind which to get.
Any views on which is a better buy? Is the S worth the extra £50? I mostly use my tablet for media - videos, light gaming, news, reading, web browsing, that sort of thing.

I have an T800, but the fight was the same..
I was in the same dilemma, and tried both (S and Pro version).. my answer was obviously, Tab S!
Much slimmer, way better screen, feel good in hands.
You do have some aosp roms for t700.

All I can say about the Tab S is the screen! Truly awesome in which is why I chose this over the iPad. There is a hitch of lag on stock touchwiz. But installing an aosp ROM makes everything better
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Tab S!
I recently upgraded from Nexus 7 and i loved it, but i wanted something a little bigger with more storage and after trying Samsung Amoled screens there was no question on what to get. Its thin, light, fast and this screen is just amazing for videos. Im typing this on my Tab S 8.4

The main differences between the pro and the s are the scren types (lcd vs Samoled), the ability to use a digitizer pen like the note uses, ram (2GB vs 3GB) and assorted minor differences.
If video is your main thing then the Tab S is amazing. If you like games better the best is the Nvidia Shield (stockish android too). The pro wil do anything the tab S does just with pen support and a screen that while it is nice is just not as nice as the S.

Dose tab pro has stylus support like note ? ... I don't think so

I also upgraded from a Nexus 7 2012 to a Tab S 8.4 (also got from John Lewis).
I was running Liquid Smooth Unofficial on the Nexus 7 and am now running Liquid Smooth on the Tab S. Took about an hour to root, install rom, and restore apps via TB. The Tab S is a nice step up from the Nexus 7. As others have said the main difference is the screen. I prefer the AMOLED screen and the deep blacks. Other people prefer the "truer" colour representation of the LCD screen. Whichever you choose I'm sure you'd be happy with it. Maybe there's a place with both tabs so you can try side by side?

cintaya said:
I currently have an original Nexus 7, which I love but it's getting increasingly laggy and the battery is awful. Though I'm loathe to lose the lovely stock android interface, I'm considering getting a galaxy tab (with a few tweaks it should be bearable!) as they seem to be some of the best on the market at the moment.
The Tab S and Tab Pro (8.4) are both available at John Lewis for £249 and £199 respectively for the wifi versions, and I can't make up my mind which to get.
Any views on which is a better buy? Is the S worth the extra £50? I mostly use my tablet for media - videos, light gaming, news, reading, web browsing, that sort of thing.
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Tab S is also first in line for OTAs (it has lollipop) and has some nice software enhancments
and xda has more support and roms for it.

Xperia Z3 Tab! Great Battery! I mean best battery for a tab! it lasts almost a week!

DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
All I can say about the Tab S is the screen! Truly awesome in which is why I chose this over the iPad. There is a hitch of lag on stock touchwiz. But installing an aosp ROM makes everything better
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What AOSP ROM did you use for your tablet?

BitSmith said:
What AOSP ROM did you use for your tablet?
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Liquid smooth of course xD
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