Why was this thread closed?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834623
Usually when a mod closes it they always have the last post and have some sort of explanation as to why it is closed.
gqstatus0685 said:
Why was this thread closed?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834623
Usually when a mod closes it they always have the last post and have some sort of explanation as to why it is closed.
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MOD EDIT: Removed link requiring registration to download, per rule 11
read much ?
It looks like they were looking for a reason to shut him down out of some spite.
Secondly you don't have to post a smart ass comment. I understand you're shielded behind your monitor and keyboard but that doesn't mean you have to act like a jerk.
There are plenty of ROM threads with members posting stuff they shouldn't have posted. They could have simply edited the offenders post or did a temporary ban. Anyone else care to chime in?
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Anyone else care to chime in?
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I didn't know the thread got closed but I think its appropriate to do so.
Leaving past drama in the past I still think its wrong for someone to post a link/thread on XDA that intends to direct traffic away from XDA, requiring registration on another website in order to enjoy the author's work. If DD wanted to be part of the XDA community then he should post and, to some degree, support his work ON XDA.
I don't care wether or not his thread was shut down. I just thought the whole thing was a little shady - some guy comes out of nowhere to offer this amazing thing that this other guy has, but you can only have it if you come into the alley with him because he can't show you in the light.
That thread was hijacked with bickering back and fourth anyway.
nukedukem said:
I don't care wether or not his thread was shut down. I just thought the whole thing was a little shady - some guy comes out of nowhere to offer this amazing thing that this other guy has, but you can only have it if you come into the alley with him because he can't show you in the light.
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lmao......
So what... the Rom rocked.
Just register at his forum, that's what I did. I have been running the rom since day one and it is the best rom I think I have ever used. There are a few bugs here but I use it everyday and love it. Google search "the ultimate droid evo" and it's the first link.
I didn't see anyone actually answer your question.. the second time the thread was closed was because the rom contains swype.
nukedukem said:
I don't care wether or not his thread was shut down. I just thought the whole thing was a little shady - some guy comes out of nowhere to offer this amazing thing that this other guy has, but you can only have it if you come into the alley with him because he can't show you in the light.
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LMAO! Thats too funny! Makes sense...(no pun)
...and now the 2.1 thread has been locked in the EVO forum. Yet, identical threads in the Desire and Motorola forums are still open. Mod(s) please explain this?
jobryan26 said:
...and now the 2.1 thread has been locked in the EVO forum. Yet, identical threads in the Desire and Motorola forums are still open. Mod(s) please explain this?
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Are you freaking kidding me! I just went to the development section and the thread is gone. This is getting really stupid.
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It was shut down the first time because it linked another sign up site to download it. Second time because it included warez. Third time, may have been due to warez(ex fancy widgets) or maybe even because of the $2 monthly fee for nighties. Hell it may have just been to all the crying the tread seem to bring.
gqstatus0685 said:
Are you freaking kidding me! I just went to the development section and the thread is gone. This is getting really stupid.
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Here is where the thread was.. forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849986 which now the link redirects you to the "Forum & Marketplace Rules". It was stated in the subject line that the thread was not in compliance with #8
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We appreciate all donations to xda-developers.com, it keeps our forum online and well maintained. As a user you're allowed to ask for donations in your signature as a thank you for your hard work. However donations up front are not allowed, this forum is about sharing, not about getting paid to do something, that's what your job is for.
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Here is the currently still open thread in the Desire forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849992 which is an exact copy of the page which was locked.
This is getting ridiculous....
The Ultimate Droid 2.1.0
THIS IS NOT MY WORK! This is an AOSP rom brought to you by Blackdroid. If you like his work, PLEASE donate.
The forums no longer require membership to download. Additionally, in order to comply, Swype has been removed from the rom.
The Ultimate Droid 2.1.0 can be downloaded from HERE
The Ultimate Droid 2.1.0 Changelog:
- New popup changelog on startup (anderweb/blackdroid)
- New updated themed with images from gingerbread (blackdroid)
- Added new launcher (new customized version of adw with new features, anderweb/blackdroid)
- Added option to turn toggle overscroll and change weight of effect (rmcc)
- Reverted to 1.0.0 Phone UI untill updates are made to new UI. (Will be send out as and update)
- Newer more customizable live wallpapers (kmobs - make sure to donate)
- Updated all apps on the Ultimate Droid Servers
- Fixes for camera contious focus (droid)
- Updated Overhauled music app
- Updated News and Weather
- Updated Google CarHome
- Updated Google Talk
- Updated Marketplace
- Updated Google Maps
- New Kernel for Inc (cyanogen)
- Fixes for bluetooth
If you like this ROM and would like to help further development:
PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE DEVELOPER!
A donation link can be found HERE
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The cached link: http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...wthread.php?t=849986&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
So let me get this right... because the OP posted "If you like this ROM and would like to help further developmentLEASE DO NOT FEED THE DEVELOPER! A donation link can be found HERE" outside of his/her signature this caused the thread to get locked and it's not even the OP's rom??? Not sure I understand how #8 even applies to the thread since the rom wasn't the OP's and he was trying to stay in compliance with rule #12
12. Using the work of others.
If you are developing something that is based on the work of another Member, you MUST first seek their permission, and you must give credit to the member whose work you used. If a dispute occurs about who developed / created a piece of work, first try to settle the matter by private message and NOT in open forum. If this fails then you may contact a moderator with clear evidence that the work was created by you.
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I mean com'on it's not like the OP hacked a phone (which is illegal), stole the the UI off the phone aka: "porting" (like HTC Sense, Acer Liquid, or etc which ARE NOT open source therefore "illegal" as they are covered by copyright as stated in you HTC Sense software menu>settings>about phone>legal information>HTC legal>
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Copyright
Certain software contained in this device is contributed or developed by HTC Corporation
Copyright @ [2006-2010] HTC Corportation
All Rights Reserved.
The works ("Works") herein refer to the software developed or owned by the HTC Corporation ("HTC") and not separately released under the terms of an open source software license. The information contained in the Works is the exclusive property of HTC. HTC grants the legal user of this device the right to use the Works solely within the scope of the legitimate operation of the device. No further right is granted under this license including but not limited to, distribution, reproduction, modification, and transmission. Any other usage shall be subject to the written consent of HTC
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Which means nearly EVERY developer here is direct violation of rule #6 ("Do not post warez") of the site unless someone has posted a copy of the authorization from HTC to redistribute their software. Yes, I use custom ported roms like most of xda, and I fully support advancing development of the mobile platform. My lack of understanding is not over this, but over nitpicking "some" developers and using rules when it fits ones specific agenda. Whatever agenda that might be. I am not here to start a war with admins or mods, but to get a more clear understanding of intent. It seems not only unclear to myself but to others as well. Thanks John
bwcorvus said:
It was shut down the first time because it linked another sign up site to download it. Second time because it included warez. Third time, may have been due to warez(ex fancy widgets) or maybe even because of the $2 monthly fee for nighties. Hell it may have just been to all the crying the tread seem to bring.
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2$ monthly fee HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA what bullsh*t is that
phatmanxxl said:
That thread was hijacked with bickering back and fourth anyway.
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That's all this thread is as well.
gqstatus0685 said:
It looks like they were looking for a reason to shut him down out of some spite.
Secondly you don't have to post a smart ass comment. I understand you're shielded behind your monitor and keyboard but that doesn't mean you have to act like a jerk.
There are plenty of ROM threads with members posting stuff they shouldn't have posted. They could have simply edited the offenders post or did a temporary ban. Anyone else care to chime in?
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they did the same thing to kingklick.
It's favoritism, that's all.
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if my memory serves me right XDA has some kind of right to host Sense roms with all the Sense things , someone made that argument before.
let's all come together and make a combined list of all the roms available for our device via telegram since it gets hard to find em sometimes.
we can make it with like a nice format in the main op thread here which I can update
we can have the name of the rom and if it's not against the rules of xda a link to the group as well
lemme know what you guys think
https://treskmod.ru/
^ or AOSiP (if you guys didn't see, AOSiP got support for F2FS)
Treskmod is not being updated for 7T as far as Telegram group states.
Other roms that are available are
Aosip
MSM Xtended
Omni Rom
Paranoid Android says they are going to release a build soon in the next days...but that is being since past 2 months...
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umair shaikh said:
let's all come together and make a combined list of all the roms available for our device via telegram since it gets hard to find em sometimes.
we can make it with like a nice format in the main op thread here which I can update
we can have the name of the rom and if it's not against the rules of xda a link to the group as well
lemme know what you guys think
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@umair shaikh THREAD CLOSED!
We grant developers the privilege to provide links to their social media including Telegram in the OP of their own development threads. These conditions obviously don't apply to your thread. I realise that you haven't posted any Telegram link yet; however, this thread more or less calls for it. You assumed correctly it would be against the rules.
XDA Forum Rules again (excerpt):
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5. Create a thread topic or post a message only once, this includes external links & streaming media.
As a large forum, we don't need unnecessary clutter. You're free to edit your message as you like, so if you do not receive an answer, revisit your message and see if you can describe your problem better. Not everyone is online at the same time so it might take a while before you receive an answer.
You can bump your unanswered question once every 24 hours
Duplicate threads and posts will be removed
Always post in an existing thread if a topic already exists, before creating a new thread.
Use our search function to find the best forum for your device.
Links to an external source are only allowed if relevant to the topic in hand. A description must be included, no copy & pasting from the original source.
Self-promotion is forbidden, this includes blogs, social media and video channels etc. Random links will be removed.
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Stay safe and stay healthy!
Regards
Oswald Boelcke
I’ve noticed that on XDA there aren’t roms like CorvusRom, DerpFest, CherishOS,..
Especially CorvusRom, which seems to be really good
take a look on his changelog
The decision is up to the developers.
Check out this Telegram-Group, lots of ROMs and all their updates for munch...
UniNick said:
Check out this Telegram-Group, lots of ROMs and all their updates for munch...
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@UniNick I've removed the links to Telegram from your OP.
Regarding social media links please observe that as an exemption from the last bullet of rule no. 5 of the XDA Forum Rules, we grant only developers the privilege to share references to their social media in their own development threads and if thorough support is provided in the thread. These conditions obviously don't apply to your posts, threads or you. Additional information is also available here:
Telegram Chat Channels - Way Forward
WhatsApp/Telegram Groups and Channels - Going Forward Hello XDA family! Just notifying all members that posting certain links to Telegram and other sites like WhatsApp is now allowed on XDA. What does that mean? We will allow links to messages...
forum.xda-developers.com
Please refrain for sharing of social media references unless within your own development threads!
Thanks for your future cooperation.
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gius0161 said:
I’ve noticed that on XDA there aren’t roms like CorvusRom, DerpFest, CherishOS,..
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@gius0161 Thread has been closed as you've created the following one just a few hours later:
Available ROMs list guide
This topic born with the goal to contain all links of available ROMs for our Poco F4 - munch. So, if you know other projects, reply here and I’ll edit the first post. MIUI BASED Miui Global - BackToStock Miui.eu MIUIMOD OG Casanova (only on...
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You could easily have edited this existing thread.
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Oswald Boelcke
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I'm creating this thread, but if any Senior Mods or Admins feel it would best be discussed in [All XDA Members] Feedback/Recommendations for XDA thread (I was unsure as that thread is more for suggestions & feedback, I don't know if criticism falls in the spirit of the thread) or some other more appropriate spot, please move these posts there.
Because there isn't any dedicated unlocked thread regarding the rules, policy, stance, and instances on this site (XDA) concerning (Telegram primarily; WhatsApp was mentioned once) external links that may or may not require registration to download files or public/private "channels" or how devs (there and here) deal with the policy, I am moving discussions made from THIS THREAD to a thread here devoted to the topic so it is on-topic here (rather than off-topic there) and anyone can feel free to discuss it further in a dedicated space for it.
Also, in the spirit/theme of the thread, I will also post some related materials to re-establish with an excerpt from Forum Rule 11 and the link to XDA's current rules, policy, & stance on Telegram directly below:
XDA Developers Forum Rules said:
11.
...This includes promoting sites similar / substantially similar to XDA-Developers.com.
Encouraging members to participate in forum activities on other phone related sites is prohibited.
Off-site downloads are permitted if the site is non-commercial and does not require registration.
Off-site downloads from sites requiring registration are NOT encouraged but may be permitted if both of the following conditions are met:
A) The site belongs to a member of XDA-Developers with at least 1500 posts and 2 years membership, who actively maintains an XDA-Developers support thread(s) / posts, related to the download.
B) The site is a relatively small, personal website without commercial advertising / links (i.e. not a competitor forum-based site with purposes and aims similar to those of XDA-Developers.com.)
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swer45 said:
So you can download it, give root permissions to Alpha and direct install it.
Random Telegram channel? The dev is one of the contributors of official Magisk, LSPosed and Shamiko. I don't think it's a random telegram channel
Give it a try : mod edit;telegram link removed
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Can't believe you not only got away with this but got thanked by an XDA mod for it!... Impressive!... Rules on TG links on XDA have changed, to allow information but maybe we can give TG as file source now @V0latyle?... I ask because of past warnings... PW
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pndwal said:
Can't believe you not only got away with this but got thanked by an XDA mod for it!... Impressive!... Rules on TG links on XDA have changed, to allow information but maybe we can give TG as file source now @V0latyle?... I ask because of past warnings... PW
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According to these rules, download links from Telegram should be ok as long as...
What about download links?
Download links from hosts, platforms or other sources are allowed as long as they do not require registration. Some Telegram links require registration for downloads, so they will not be allowed. Please check them before posting.
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Can't believe you not only got away with this but got thanked by an XDA mod for it!... Impressive!... Rules on TG links on XDA have changed, to allow information but maybe we can give TG as file source now @V0latyle?... I ask because of past warnings... PW
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Check out the TG policy in my sig. We treat files hosted on TG like we do any other file host - they must be available to the public without registration, I.e., a TG account must not be necessary to download them.
I personally can't figure out how to download it but I'm also not TG literate, so...
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Can you say app then?... Or did I miss it... PW
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You mean the app name?
Main bank is Navy Federal but you can't test biometric sign in unless you have an account.
Other app is Mid America Bank, it complains about root unless DenyList is enabled on it, then it complains about USB Debugging.
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According to these rules, download links from Telegram should be ok as long as...
What about download links?
Download links from hosts, platforms or other sources are allowed as long as they do not require registration. Some Telegram links require registration for downloads, so they will not be allowed. Please check them before posting.
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This.
V0latyle said:
Check out the TG policy in my sig. We treat files hosted on TG like we do any other file host - they must be available to the public without registration, I.e., a TG account must not be necessary to download them.
I personally can't figure out how to download it but I'm also not TG literate, so...
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Well that's what's confusing about XDA... Rules were strictly no TG except one per development thread in OP originally, then was told still no links to TG threads needing registration but can link relevant information on public threads but CANNOT give TG links as file sources regardless... PW
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According to these rules, download links from Telegram should be ok as long as...
What about download links?
Download links from hosts, platforms or other sources are allowed as long as they do not require registration. Some Telegram links require registration for downloads, so they will not be allowed. Please check them before posting.
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Ok, got it thanks... I missed the change nearly a year ago! ... Guess better late than never... PW
pndwal said:
Well that's what's confusing about XDA... Rules were strictly no TG except one per development thread in OP originally, then was told still no links to TG threads needing registration but can link relevant information on public threads but CANNOT give TG links as file sources regardless... PW
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Ok, got it thanks... I missed the change nearly a year ago! ... Guess better late than never... PW
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Yeah. If you read the policy, we allow one TG link for developers in the OP, with the condition that support and updates must be provided in the XDA thread. There's been a few developers that try to keep everything on TG, and that's the point where we consider it to be self promotion under Rule 5:
Links to an external source are only allowed if relevant to the topic in hand. A description must be included, no copy & pasting from the original source.
Self-promotion is forbidden, this includes blogs, social media and video channels etc. Random links will be removed.
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I'm not going to quote the TG policy here since you can just click on the far right link in my sig and read it, but you get the idea
Speaking of Telegram, can someone help me figure out how to download the file? I don't have Telegram on my phone and while I have an account (that I don't frequently use) I'd rather not join the channel
swer45 said:
To download the file you must have Telegram installed in your phone and had an account
But I can share it
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Thank you. If the previous link you shared does indeed require an account I recommend you remove it
V0latyle said:
Check out the TG policy in my sig. We treat files hosted on TG like we do any other file host - they must be available to the public without registration, I.e., a TG account must not be necessary to download them.
I personally can't figure out how to download it but I'm also not TG literate, so...
You mean the app name?
Main bank is Navy Federal but you can't test biometric sign in unless you have an account.
Other app is Mid America Bank, it complains about root unless DenyList is enabled on it, then it complains about USB Debugging.
This.
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Ok, so seems what I was told is actually still correct:
pndwal said:
... Rules were strictly no TG except one per development thread in OP originally, then was told still no links to TG threads needing registration but can link relevant information on public threads but CANNOT give TG links as file sources regardless...
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Members "can link relevant information" from TG as the links (to public channels) can be opened in browser as a 'preview' (eg with /s/ inserted before the channel name).
However they "CANNOT give TG links as file sources regardless" as files cannot be downloaded without registering an account.
The cited rule
What about download links?
Download links from hosts, platforms or other sources are allowed as long as they do not require registration. Some Telegram links require registration for downloads, so they will not be allowed. Please check them before posting.
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may possibly apply to WhatsApp (can that be accessed without registering an account? ) per its banner heading, but for TG the statement "Some Telegram links require registration for downloads, so they will not be allowed" seems wishful, superfluous and misleading to me as all Telegram links require registration for downloads unless I'm mistaken. PW
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Ok, so seems what I was told is actually still correct:
Members "can link relevant information" from TG as the links (to public channels) can be opened in browser as a 'preview' (eg with /s/ inserted before the channel name).
However they "CANNOT give TG links as file sources regardless" as files cannot be downloaded without registering an account.
The cited rule
may possibly apply to WhatsApp (can that be accessed without registering an account? ) per its banner heading, but for TG the statement "Some Telegram links require registration for downloads, so they will not be allowed" seems wishful, superfluous and misleading to me as all Telegram links require registration for downloads unless I'm mistaken. PW
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Someone had demonstrated to me at some point that TG files can be made publicly available. But I don't remember who. The only thing I can suggest is getting one of the more Telegram knowledgeable mods in here like @karandpr or @Oswald Boelcke or @alecxs
V0latyle said:
Someone had demonstrated to me at some point that TG files can be made publicly available. But I don't remember who. The only thing I can suggest is getting one of the more Telegram knowledgeable mods in here like @karandpr or @Oswald Boelcke or @alecxs
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I think it was Oswald I discussed this with previously...
Seems you can download without Telegram "by joining a Telegram group called Files Web Downloader" or similar:
https://techlizar.com/how-to-download-telegram-files-without-telegram/
but "you’ll need to join the group and forward the downloadable link" before "they will convert the link as a fast downloadable link", but that's no good due to need to register...
Apparently a Telegram bot called GetPublicLinkBot might work per link above. "You can use it to download any large files without Telegram... This bot will generate a direct download link for any file you send it" but it didn't work in my test:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
... Doubt such third party file-mirroring solutions would be acceptable to XDA anyway, at least unless 3rd party links are used... Original TG links still require registered account to work. PW
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Someone had demonstrated to me at some point that TG files can be made publicly available. But I don't remember who. The only thing I can suggest is getting one of the more Telegram knowledgeable mods in here like @karandpr or @Oswald Boelcke or @alecxs
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Telegram posts with external links are available publicly.
Telegram download links required a Telegram account.
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Telegram posts with external links are available publicly.
Telegram download links required a Telegram account.
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pndwal said:
Ok, so seems what I was told is actually still correct:
pndwal said:
... Rules were strictly no TG except one per development thread in OP originally, then was told still no links to TG threads needing registration but can link relevant information on public threads but CANNOT give TG links as file sources regardless...
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The cited rule
What about download links?
Download links from hosts, platforms or other sources are allowed as long as they do not require registration. Some Telegram links require registration for downloads, so they will not be allowed. Please check them before posting.
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may possibly apply to WhatsApp (can that be accessed without registering an account? ) per its banner heading, but for TG the statement "Some Telegram links require registration for downloads, so they will not be allowed" seems wishful, superfluous and misleading to me as all Telegram links require registration for downloads unless I'm mistaken. PW
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So it seems that despite the rule update and the fact that many here use Telegram to communicate or to peruse forums, we still cannot link even main Magisk test forks from principal Magisk Devs like @vvb2060's Alpha (with no GitHub published releases) or other apps etc published (for root hiding etc) there...
-------An aside: @ipdev recently made me aware of the "official XDA-Developers Telegram chat hub"... ("Here you will find links to all official XDA Telegram chat groups. The XDA-Developers Telegram chats are run by members of XDA Management with help from various trusted community members.")
https://t.me/xdadevelopershub
I couldn't find rules there against posting or linking files and many have been posted... So I wonder if an acceptable workaround for regular XDA members would be to post such files in the XDA TG General Discussion channel, then reply to that post with a reference to the app/mod like "The Alpha build is 13mb" and link that post (not a download source itself; only a source of 'pertinent information' ) from an XDA forum response to a member asking about such releases(?)...
As a for-instance, I ran early versions of Shamiko and posted on XDA about this new hiding module's development long before @nullptr gave it a public GitHub home, but I couldn't post a source for release files when members asked for it as it was only available on TG for some time...
Now (since the extinction of MagiskHide) Shamiko is a staple module for XDA Magisk users too, but it would still be taboo here if it hadn't been for @nullptr's (and @canyie's?) initiative, because of XDA policy... PW
The Telegram discussion doesn't really belong here, we (used to?) have a thread about Telegram and XDA, I'm currently trying to find it
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For context, this conversation:
So it seems that despite the rule update and the fact that many here use Telegram to communicate or to peruse forums, we still cannot link even main Magisk test forks from principal Magisk Devs like @vvb2060's Alpha (with no GitHub published releases) or other apps etc published (for root hiding etc) there...
Also, @ipdev recently made me aware of the "official XDA-Developers Telegram chat hub"... ("Here you will find links to all official XDA Telegram chat groups. The XDA-Developers Telegram chats are run by members of XDA Management with help from various trusted community members.")
https://t.me/xdadevelopershub
I couldn't find rules there against posting or linking files and many have been posted... So I wonder if an acceptable workaround for regular XDA members would be to post such files in the XDA TG General Discussion channel, then reply to that post with a reference to the app/mod like "The Alpha build is 13mb" and link that post (not a download source itself; only a source of 'pertinent information' ) from an XDA forum response to a member asking about such releases(?)...
As a for-instance, I ran early versions of Shamiko and posted on XDA about this new hiding module's development long before @nullptr gave it a public GitHub home, but I couldn't post a source for release files when members asked for it as it was only available on TG for some time...
Now (since the extinction of MagiskHide) Shamiko is a staple module for XDA Magisk users too, but it would still be taboo here if it hadn't been for @nullptr's (and @canyie's?) initiative, because of XDA policy... PW
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The problem xda had was a few Devs were using XDA to promote their telegram groups and not contributing to xda at all. Several of these Devs were then selling their work on telegram. All though the xda rules are far from ideal, this is what they were trying to stop
pndwal said:
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So it seems that despite the rule update and the fact that many here use Telegram to communicate or to peruse forums, we still cannot link even main Magisk test forks from principal Magisk Devs like @vvb2060's Alpha (with no GitHub published releases) or other apps etc published (for root hiding etc) there...
Also, @ipdev recently made me aware of the "official XDA-Developers Telegram chat hub"... ("Here you will find links to all official XDA Telegram chat groups. The XDA-Developers Telegram chats are run by members of XDA Management with help from various trusted community members.")
https://t.me/xdadevelopershub
I couldn't find rules there against posting or linking files and many have been posted... So I wonder if an acceptable workaround for regular XDA members would be to post such files in the XDA TG General Discussion channel, then reply to that post with a reference to the app/mod like "The Alpha build is 13mb" and link that post (not a download source itself; only a source of 'pertinent information' ) from an XDA forum response to a member asking about such releases(?)...
As a for-instance, I ran early versions of Shamiko and posted on XDA about this new hiding module's development long before @nullptr gave it a public GitHub home, but I couldn't post a source for release files when members asked for it as it was only available on TG for some time...
Now (since the extinction of MagiskHide) Shamiko is a staple module for XDA Magisk users too, but it would still be taboo here if it hadn't been for @nullptr's (and @canyie's?) initiative, because of XDA policy... PW
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OMG, I thought you have successfully finished the thesis on this topic, but apparently it's still on the table
andy242 said:
The problem xda had was a few Devs were using XDA to promote their telegram groups and not contributing to xda at all. Several of these Devs were then selling their work on telegram. All though the xda rules are far from ideal, this is what they were trying to stop
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Exactly. This is largely a non profit site, and the only revenue we get is from traffic on this site...so anything that directs users elsewhere is bad. That's also why we discourage self promotion, etc. The idea is that XDA and the content shared herein should be available to the general public for anyone to get useful information...not a platform to promote oneself, one's website, social media, etc.
@pndwal trying to compete with @Oswald Boelcke for the Wall of Text!
@karandpr is it still true that only channels allow free download of files, but groups require using a TG account? Or is it both?
andy242 said:
The problem xda had was a few Devs were using XDA to promote their telegram groups and not contributing to xda at all. Several of these Devs were then selling their work on telegram. All though the xda rules are far from ideal, this is what they were trying to stop
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Correct.
There is also the security perspective.
We had previous instances when some malicious actor passed malware onto devices from a telegram group.
That resulted in device bricks. Furthermore, malicious actors also cheated members of their money via crypto.
It's a reasonable line we have drawn .
V0latyle said:
@karandpr is it still true that only channels allow free download of files, but groups require using a TG account? Or is it both?
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You can view public channels, public groups, and posts in public groups.