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Thinking about buying, need some advice...

I'm on the fence between waiting for the N5 or getting the OG Pro.
Is the OG Pro difficult to root, flash custom recovery, CM 10.2, etc? (That's what I really want the device for)
Is the bootloader locked?
Any basic suggestions or tips would be appreciated.

The boot loader is locked. However, there is a work around called "Loki", hence the roms, which btw run great on the G Pro.
But I'd advise you to wait for the N5 due to it having a fully unlocked boot loader , more accessories and more support by both Google and XDA.
I will buy one for sure.

donalgodon said:
I'm on the fence between waiting for the N5 or getting the OG Pro.
Is the OG Pro difficult to root, flash custom recovery, CM 10.2, etc? (That's what I really want the device for)
Is the bootloader locked?
Any basic suggestions or tips would be appreciated.
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OG Pro is simple to root, both cwm and twrp recoveries are easily available and working, and there is an official CM 10.2 available which is a nightly, so daily updates
So if these are your only considerations, you can buy the OG Pro with your eyes closed.
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vivebatu said:
OG Pro is simple to root, both cwm and twrp recoveries are easily available and working, and there is an official CM 10.2 available which is a nightly, so daily updates
So if these are your only considerations, you can buy the OG Pro with your eyes closed.
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My only concern is that I don't know if the 980H is the same as the 980.
The 980H is the Panama version, the ROM from which is a popular flash option for this model in a Stock ROM. I'm actually in Panama, and this is where I'll purchase.
What about the root, recovery options? Should I use the one's for the 980? I don't see any for the H variant.

donalgodon said:
I'm on the fence between waiting for the N5 or getting the OG Pro.
Is the OG Pro difficult to root, flash custom recovery, CM 10.2, etc? (That's what I really want the device for)
Is the bootloader locked?
Any basic suggestions or tips would be appreciated.
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OG Pro is a GREAT Device in its own way. If you need Removable battery, Micro SD slot then this device is suitable.
N5 has is pros and cons. U get latest S800 processor, direct updates from google, but only 16 or 32GB storage and non removable 2300 mah of N5 is no near to 3140mah of OGP. And LG will MOSTLY update OGP to 4.4 Kitkat by end of this year.
It is easy to flash custom roms on this device, well easier than HTC phones and there is going to be lot of development in future for this device. This device also have OFFICIAL support from Cyanogen mod team.(Correct me if i'm wrong).
For me OGP is better option than most of the other phones out there right now.

StarkV5 said:
OG Pro is a GREAT Device in its own way. If you need Removable battery, Micro SD slot then this device is suitable.
N5 has is pros and cons. U get latest S800 processor, direct updates from google, but only 16 or 32GB storage and non removable 2300 mah of N5 is no near to 3140mah of OGP. And LG will MOSTLY update OGP to 4.4 Kitkat by end of this year.
It is easy to flash custom roms on this device, well easier than HTC phones and there is going to be lot of development in future for this device. This device also have OFFICIAL support from Cyanogen mod team.(Correct me if i'm wrong).
For me OGP is better option than most of the other phones out there right now.
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Don't you think that LG will eventually patch the bootloader exploit and end the party?
That's what bothers me about it, because Samdung did basically the same thing recently with Knox.

donalgodon said:
Don't you think that LG will eventually patch the bootloader exploit and end the party?
That's what bothers me about it, because Samdung did basically the same thing recently with Knox.
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with custom roms we don't need official OTA updates anymore plus they're slow with the updates anyway

solaris2k said:
with custom roms we don't need official OTA updates anymore plus they're slow with the updates anyway
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Just as long as those features aren't tied to the bootloader, then there's no problem, but if the case of Samdung's Knox bootloaders have illustrated anything, it's that this is always an option.
Without the Knox bootloader, 4.3 update broke Wi-Fi, Sound, etc. It's what pushed me to sell the S4 and be done with Samdung once and for all.

donalgodon said:
Just as long as those features aren't tied to the bootloader, then there's no problem, but if the case of Samdung's Knox bootloaders have illustrated anything, it's that this is always an option.
Without the Knox bootloader, 4.3 update broke Wi-Fi, Sound, etc. It's what pushed me to sell the S4 and be done with Samdung once and for all.
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Well Samdung are floating in the sky because of lots of sales and huge profit (about $10 billion i guess!!) so they don't care about the developer community and moving against it like Apple. Samdung is not apple but they don't understand it. they want to provide security on their devices like Apple does. Thats what they are trying with something called Knox bootloaders. This is one of the reason that kept me away from getting a Note 3. LG has long way to go before they become like Samdung. So i wouldn't worry about it for atleast 2 years! LOL

StarkV5 said:
Well Samdung are floating in the sky because of lots of sales and huge profit (about $10 billion i guess!!) so they don't care about the developer community and moving against it like Apple. Samdung is not apple but they don't understand it. they want to provide security on their devices like Apple does. Thats what they are trying with something called Knox bootloaders. This is one of the reason that kept me away from getting a Note 3. LG has long way to go before they become like Samdung. So i wouldn't worry about it for atleast 2 years! LOL
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Well, their protection scheme is similar. I forgot what they call it, but it's all the same sort of sham. It releases the corporation from liability for warranty service, regardless of what the issue is, if the "protection" flag is tripped.
I find myself dreaming often about what it would be like if a company (like LG, which is smaller than the competition) threw everything they had behind the Open Source and Development community and just made their devices with folks like us XDA members in mind! How many millions of us are there now? We probably buy more gadgets as a group than any other segment of the global population as a whole, yet we are basically ignored and treated like criminals.

donalgodon said:
I find myself dreaming often about what it would be like if a company (like LG, which is smaller than the competition) threw everything they had behind the Open Source and Development community and just made their devices with folks like us XDA members in mind! How many millions of us are there now? We probably buy more gadgets as a group than any other segment of the global population as a whole, yet we are basically ignored and treated like criminals.
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True!!! But the companies always think about the mass market first who are non-tech people who just buy and use the phone as it is..
The issue is warranty! when the phone is being used for development there is always risk of hard brick unless u know what you are doing with the phone. They don't want people messing their devices themselves and claim warranty for it. That is why the bootloaders are locked and flagged if unlocked for development purposes.
Which device did u decide to buy anyway??

StarkV5 said:
True!!! But the companies always think about the mass market first who are non-tech people who just buy and use the phone as it is..
The issue is warranty! when the phone is being used for development there is always risk of hard brick unless u know what you are doing with the phone. They don't want people messing their devices themselves and claim warranty for it. That is why the bootloaders are locked and flagged if unlocked for development purposes.
Which device did u decide to buy anyway??
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Yeah, that's the reality, but I think there's a situation where companies can say, "Look, here's literally everything you need. All the documentation, sources, drivers, binaries... everything. You can play with your device all you want, but you assume that responsibility if something goes wrong." Then, they ought to make the flashing and modding tools part of the package. Make them robust, and invest in safe flashing systems. Fewer issues as a result.
I don't think it's fair that companies should be made to pay for stupidity, and I accept it as a cost of doing what we all love to do. This is what I thought the "Google Edition" devices were going to be all about, but even there, we still face a situation where so many things aren't provided properly.
I am hunting down a E980. To me, it represents the best value for the money right now. My plan is to use the Loki bootloader exploit, slap CM 10.2 on it and never look back. In fairness, LG's UI is a bit too colorful for my tastes, but it isn't anywhere near as hideous as Samdung's Touchwiz circus clowns on acid abomination.

donalgodon said:
I am hunting down a E980.
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Nice! :good:
I'm sure you will have great time with the device.

donalgodon said:
My only concern is that I don't know if the 980H is the same as the 980.
The 980H is the Panama version, the ROM from which is a popular flash option for this model in a Stock ROM. I'm actually in Panama, and this is where I'll purchase.
What about the root, recovery options? Should I use the one's for the 980? I don't see any for the H variant.
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Canadian v522 custom support?

I'm getting a tablet from Rogers this week so I'm doing some research
To see what kind of support there is for customization of the v522 lg g pad 3 8.0
Can we root it?
Custom recovery?
Any roms that are compatible across models?
Thanks for any info
What I have read so far is a bit old and confusing (calling the Canadiann model 521 not 522 etc)

This website claims that it is rootable... but i trust xda a not random websites found with Google
Can any one report if this works?
(I would try it myself but my tablet is a gift and I don't have a receipt for warranty(and it's a hour drive to anywhere that might warranty it from my small town ))
https://giveawaytricks.in/root-install-twrp-recovery-lg-g-pad-x-8-0/
PREREQUISITE TO ROOT AND INSTALL TWRP RECOVERY FOR LG G PAD X 8.0 :
This TWRP is for LG G Pad X 8.0 (V521, V522, V525)
You need a Laptop or PC
Charge your phone to at least 70%
It has downloads. For the 521 tmobile rom which they claim you can install on the 522 and 525
And twrp for the 521 also they claim you should use flashify to install the recovery.
Now I know lots of devices can use other similar model recovery and roms..
But I trust xda to verify and lead the way for custom devices not a web site like this.
This post on xda mentions that the boot loader for Canada is not unlockable
(If I read it right)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-...guide-lg-v521-t-mobile-version-t3443747/page8

Was wanting to ask the same question, I looked everywhere and no clear answer? For my phones it was really straight forward and I had a redmi and lemax, not exactly the most popular phones... looks like we're out of luck?

There was a new exploit found that might be used to get root.
It is called "dirty cow" now if we can get one of the wizard like developers to see if this can be used to root this device (And others that are hard to root)
Here is some more info about the dirty cow exploit.Not sure if this can be used to root the 522 or others.at least not permanently.But it might lead to a method to do so
http://androiding.how/dirty-cow-root-android/

Would be nice if 522 and 521 are compatible kind a like all those Samsung phones.

codenamezero said:
Would be nice if 522 and 521 are compatible kind a like all those Samsung phones.
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Carrier phones and tablets in the US, including Samsung phones are never compatible with other variants.
Only international Samsung phones like in the Europe or Asia may be compatible with other variants.

googlephone said:
Carrier phones and tablets in the US, including Samsung phones are never compatible with other variants.
Only international Samsung phones like in the Europe or Asia may be compatible with other variants.
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I have the Samsung S4 which had a couple of variant, mine was jtfxxx and later on able to just flash the jtflte. I'm not saying all of them would work, but normally those with only last digit differences should. There were I9500, 9509, 9506, 9515, i think they were all compatible.

codenamezero said:
I have the Samsung S4 which had a couple of variant, mine was jtfxxx and later on able to just flash the jtflte. I'm not saying all of them would work, but normally those with only last digit differences should. There were I9500, 9509, 9506, 9515, i think they were all compatible.
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None of those are from US carriers. My point is that don't expect any US carrier devices, including Samsung devices, to be compatible with other variants or vice versa.
Also for Samsung devices, those with only last digit difference should not be compatible, as soon as they are US variants.
Like the note series, US variants N920T, N920V, N920P are not compatible with any other N920x, even though they differ by only the last digit.
If you mean custom Roms like Cyanogenmod, the developers can make one rom to fit multiple variants with same chip set. If so, it has nothing to do with LG or Samsung. CM Roms can also be compatible with multiple variants for LG devices, like the L90, even though they have completely different model numbers.

Just wondering if there is any further developments on rooting the Canadian LG Gpad III,
I too am looking at picking one of these up as they're getting pretty decent reviews and would like to root it too.

Anything in terms of new development here?

Anyone root this tab yet?
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+1

It's a shame about no root. Nougat on this thing is awesome. Great value this tablet

They achieved TWRP and Root on this tablet a long time ago, August of last year to be exact.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/team-win-recovery-project-lg-g-pad-x-8-t3443944

KryogenikX said:
They achieved TWRP and Root on this tablet a long time ago, August of last year to be exact.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/team-win-recovery-project-lg-g-pad-x-8-t3443944
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Not one person has actually confirmed rooting v522 fully. The bootloader is locked.

Leonidas87 said:
Not one person has actually confirmed rooting v522 fully. The bootloader is locked.
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I ordered one to try it. I should get it this week.

KryogenikX said:
I ordered one to try it. I should get it this week.
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I would appreciate it.
Based on my research our v522 has a locked bootloader.
Not one youtube video.
All research for me has pointed to it not working. Which is terrible because this device is lacking in its full potential. Was able to get adaptable storage working, make sure you have a u3 speed SD card this way apps on SD card will load faster and not lag.

Leonidas87 said:
I would appreciate it.
Based on my research our v522 has a locked bootloader.
Not one youtube video.
All research for me has pointed to it not working. Which is terrible because this device is lacking in its full potential. Was able to get adaptable storage working, make sure you have a u3 speed SD card this way apps on SD card will load faster and not lag.
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No problem and thx for the tip.

KryogenikX said:
No problem and thx for the tip.
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Any luck in rooting the tablet?

DvlzGame said:
Any luck in rooting the tablet?
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Not yet. Tried Dirty cow w/ no luck. Next im going to try and get the system.img and see if I could root inject it and it might be able to be installed via download mode. I haven't had much time lately, but Ill try that as soon as I could.

is the unlocked version worth the price over Verizon buy one get one?

Looking to get the 3XL when it comes out through Verizon. Most likely Verizon is going to run a buy one get one with adding on a new line in.
With the phone being stock Android already but with a Verizon locked bootloader is it more beneficial to give up the buy-one-get-one and just buy an unlocked one through Verizon? If I go the buy-one-get-one route myself and my brother-in-law are going to be splitting the retail cost of the one we have to buy
EDIT 10/13/2018
Come to find out we cannot have any more smartphones on our line with it being a special plan that it is. So we can't take advantage of the buy one get one

If you want root, then do not buy the Verizon version. On all previous Verizon Pixel devices "OEM unlocking" in developer options has been disabled. With that disabled you can't unlock the bootloader. With a locked bootloader you can't install TWRP. Without TWRP you can't install Magisk. Without Magisk you have no root.
If having root is not important to you, then feel free to go for the Verizon version.

Face_Plant said:
If you want root, then do not buy the Verizon version. On all previous Verizon Pixel devices "OEM unlocking" in developer options has been disabled. With that disabled you can't unlock the bootloader. With a locked bootloader you can't install TWRP. Without TWRP you can't install Magisk. Without Magisk you have no root.
If having root is not important to you, then feel free to go for the Verizon version.
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I know the whole locked bootloader, TWRP stuff. It's probably been since my Google Nexus and I believe my Note 4 or 5 that I messed with rooting, unlocked bootloaders and roms LOL
But with it being stock pure Google is there really anything truly beneficial to having the unlocked bootloader to allow for rooting possibilities. I used to root my phone's just to run custom roms to get rid of them bloatware that other manufacturers put on it. But since the pixel doesn't have a bloat or skin overlay, is there a real reason for rooting capabilities?

Androider4Life said:
I know the whole locked bootloader, TWRP stuff. It's probably been since my Google Nexus and I believe my Note 4 or 5 that I messed with rooting, unlocked bootloaders and roms LOL
But with it being stock pure Google is there really anything truly beneficial to having the unlocked bootloader to allow for rooting possibilities. I used to root my phone's just to run custom roms to get rid of them bloatware that other manufacturers put on it. But since the pixel doesn't have a bloat or skin overlay, is there a real reason for rooting capabilities?
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There's always good reasons to root. Ad blocking is the number one thing that comes to mind. Utilities like Better Battery Stats to see what's killing your battery, Titanium Backup to backup your apps or uninstall system apps, WakeBlock to block or limit wakelocks so your phone isn't waking up every 10 seconds to send analytics data to Facebook/Twitter/Google when it should be sleeping, etc.
Google phones still come with bloat, it's just not as bad as Samsung or LG phones. For example, my 6P came with a ton of Google apps installed (Play Games, Hangouts, Play Movies, Docs, Slides, and **** ton more) that I would probably never use or have a desire to use. Sure you can disable most of them, but I'd rather remove them entirely.

These are the best reasons for rooting. Ad blocking is a good one, and I just enjoyed flashing new and different roms. It was fun - there was a new cm nightly every day to flash. I've got away from that partly because of less development and partly because stock android is pretty good as is. New features like android pay are very security conscious and don't play well with root. It's up to you if you want to give up the ability to root. Half price on the phone is pretty tempting. If you can't handle staying stock you could probably get your price out of the phone on Swappa and buy from Google. If there is any development to get in to. I've been stock the past year and am happy with that.

dmb219 said:
These are the best reasons for rooting. Ad blocking is a good one, and I just enjoyed flashing new and different roms. It was fun - there was a new cm nightly every day to flash. I've got away from that partly because of less development and partly because stock android is pretty good as is. New features like android pay are very security conscious and don't play well with root. It's up to you if you want to give up the ability to root. Half price on the phone is pretty tempting. If you can't handle staying stock you could probably get your price out of the phone on Swappa and buy from Google. If there is any development to get in to. I've been stock the past year and am happy with that.
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Did not think about the swappa thing. May be a good idea depending on what it's going for on there when it releases.
If I would stick with the Verizon variant, I would just need to stay off XDA and not read "what I could be doing with the unlocked variant" lol.

Androider4Life said:
Looking to get the 3XL when it comes out through Verizon. Most likely Verizon is going to run a buy one get one with adding on a new line in.
With the phone being stock Android already but with a Verizon locked bootloader is it more beneficial to give up the buy-one-get-one and just buy an unlocked one through Verizon? If I go the buy-one-get-one route myself and my brother-in-law are going to be splitting the retail cost of the one we have to buy
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Ill never understand why anyone would buy a device thats locked down if they dont have to.
Absolutely Id go for the nom Verizon version....its a no brainer.
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Don't get a locked device, especially if you're hanging out on XDA!

galaxys said:
Don't get a locked device, especially if you're hanging out on XDA!
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What he said ^^

galaxys said:
Don't get a locked device, especially if you're hanging out on XDA!
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Yea, the fact that you're here is testament to the need for the unlocked Pixel. I've been mostly stock for the last couple years but tinker occasionally. I want the ability to tweak my phone even if I choose not to, especially if there is some development going on. I hope there is some life left in the Pixel community here, it's been kind of quiet. The phone is more difficult to mod and to be honest, the stock software is hard to improve on.

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Yea, the fact that you're here is testament to the need for the unlocked Pixel. I've been mostly stock for the last couple years but tinker occasionally. I want the ability to tweak my phone even if I choose not to, especially if there is some development going on. I hope there is some life left in the Pixel community here, it's been kind of quiet. The phone is more difficult to mod and to be honest, the stock software is hard to improve on.
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That was my thought too about how stock software is hard to improve on to justify buying unlocked rather than the buy one get one thru Verizon ( if they offer it) and splitting the cost of the one we have to buy.

Androider4Life said:
That was my thought too about how stock software is hard to improve on to justify buying unlocked rather than the buy one get one thru Verizon ( if they offer it) and splitting the cost of the one we have to buy.
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I don't have Verizon but if I got a Pixel for half price thru my carrier I might be on that. My son has Verizon and gets his phone free from his work. He was a hacker too but has been good with a stock Pixel XL since he got it. Monthly updates - hard to beat stock on the Pixels.

As others have mentioned, having an unlocked phone generally means you are able to root the device. However, I couldn't help but noticing Google's new Titan chip that is claiming to securing passwords and the OS. My question is, how is this new "chip" going to play with "rooting" the device. Will simply having an unlocked device bypass this new Titan chip?

At this moment Verizon's 128gb model is 30$ more at 1029.99 with 9% tax 1122.69 plus $30 upgrade fee. Total $1,152.69
Google's version is 999.99 with 9% tax $1089.99
So all in all with tax one is saving over roughly 62$
Verizon is doing BOGO on the 64gb only, and offering a wireless stand. Even without the BOGO it equalizes out.
I don't need the BOGO so buying from Google is cheaper for me

I haven't rooted in YEARS. The last phone I rooted was the 1+2. OEM vanilla android is so good now I'm not even tempted. I stopped specifically when I thought about why I was installing ROMs. I wanted one that hid from Android Pay (back in the day) and allowed me to clone my phone if it broke. So, I was installing software from suspect sources to make copies of my device and perform financial transactions... Dafuq was I thinking!
This probably isn't a popular thing to say, but... how much do you really trust random dudes calling themselves "SKREET/|/KLoWnzZ", or some ****, who put together the "(-XxX[DaRTh++KriMzON ].::.KaRBoN.::.SKuLLzZzXxX-)" ROM, anyway? You've probably got some kind of banking data on that phone, right? I'm not saying Devs are crooks, but I'm certain more than one dude out there isn't on the up-and-up, I promise you. Mathematics demands it to be so. My wife would choke the piss out of me if our account got drained because I compromised our data using a hot ROM cooked up in Romania.
NOW, I get unlocked phones so I can carry a blank phone and switch carriers for trips overseas. My Pixel 2XL will replace my Nexus 6 as my travel phone, and the Pixel 3XL will be my main phone

I have been purchasing my phones directly either from Google or HTC, just so I could unlock and root. But I haven''t been rooting, even with an unlocked bootloader. I am probably not going to unlock my Pixel 3XL since I want to use Android Pay, and also play PoGo (I know Magisk can hide it, but it's always a game of cat and mouse.)

Plus, you never know. The original Verizon Pixel was unlockable for a brief time. It's unlikely, but it could happen this time as well.

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I know the whole locked bootloader, TWRP stuff. It's probably been since my Google Nexus and I believe my Note 4 or 5 that I messed with rooting, unlocked bootloaders and roms LOL
But with it being stock pure Google is there really anything truly beneficial to having the unlocked bootloader to allow for rooting possibilities. I used to root my phone's just to run custom roms to get rid of them bloatware that other manufacturers put on it. But since the pixel doesn't have a bloat or skin overlay, is there a real reason for rooting capabilities?
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Since the Nexus? You didn't even unlock the 5X? So the question is should I spend an extra $1000 so I can possibly use Adaware? You won't need Titanium if you're not flashing roms, Better BS works perfectly without root, and there is no bloatware any longer. I understand if these things like flashing roms from Romania (lol that post above is funny) are important to you but you haven't rooted in like what, 5 years now? This is really a no brainer.
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Plus, you never know. The original Verizon Pixel was unlockable for a brief time. It's unlikely, but it could happen this time as well.
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Not gonna happen like it did for that one month. That flaw has been closed. I'm just waiting for a bounty thread for temp root. And I'm wondering even with temp root if you'd be able to unlock the bootloader on this device.

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Not gonna happen like it did for that one month. That flaw has been closed.
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I'm well aware of that, thanks, but I prefer to be optimistic and hope that we may get lucky. When we get them in our hands, we'll know for sure.

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I'm well aware of that, thanks, but I prefer to be optimistic and hope that we may get lucky. When we get them in our hands, we'll know for sure.
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I do admire your optimism but they've been at this a long time and it seems they really have it locked down this time. Unless the Pixel 3s have an exploit I just don't see it. I do hope you're right though.
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Can my S9 be rooted or not?

Hi guys, Im sorry if this is a silly question, I'm not an expert, I remember when it was fairly easy to flash custom roms back in the days of S2, S4... but now things have changed so much that personally I get confused between this many versions and variants... I have read along many posts that suggest my S9 can not be rooted, because of locked bootloader, but I have some mixed up settings(I think) in my S9 that doesn't help me to be completely sure.
My S9 has the model SM-G960U printed on the back., but in my Settings under Device Information, my model displayed is SM-6960U1 and my build number is R16NW.G960U1UES3ARI1; I just want to know if I can really root it, I don't intend to flash custom roms to be honest, Im satisfied with just to be able to root, install my TitaniumBackUp Pro and freeze/defrost apps I use from time to time, I have read also the people root their S9 but lacking vowifi or camera performance, but I don't know if that would apply to me.
Also, I tapped the build number 7 times in order to enable Developer options, and I couldn't find OEM Unlock on it, that is not good isn't?
I just got this S9, hence my caution to ask before jump and flash things that could brick it.
Thanks in advance!!

There's nothing to flash because the bootloader is locked.

Ditto

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There's nothing to flash because the bootloader is locked.
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Rather than start another thread, Iv got a couple of questions. is this because he has a snapdragon version?
As aposed to the exynos version which can be unlocked?

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Rather than start another thread, Iv got a couple of questions. is this because he has a snapdragon version?
As aposed to the exynos version which can be unlocked?
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Yes. There are some snapdragon variants that can be unlocked (9600) and they're sold in China and South America afaik. Limited support but there is lineage and twrp here.

ChongoDroid said:
Yes. There are some snapdragon variants that can be unlocked (9600) and they're sold in China and South America afaik. Limited support but there is lineage and twrp here.
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Sorry for the huge delay, this has been a rough week for me, and many thanks for your answers.
it really sucks though, and I suppose there's not much hope in a possible way to unlock the bootloader in the future?
I'm not that good seller nor I have the will to actually put it on sell, I assume I will have to accept the fact that I won't be able to root this one ever :/
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FrankI897 said:
Sorry for the huge delay, this has been a rough week for me, and many thanks for your answers.
it really sucks though, and I suppose there's not much hope in a possible way to unlock the bootloader in the future?
I'm not that good seller nor I have the will to actually put it on sell, I assume I will have to accept the fact that I won't be able to root this one ever :/
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Snapdragon bootloaders have not been unlocked since at least the S7 days (Maybe earlier), buy a Exynos S9 if you want and unlocked BL

I used to root all the time. But don't see the need some the S7. Phones are so optimized stock. I've never needed to. Granted I do miss CMMod

Rally517 said:
I used to root all the time. But don't see the need some the S7. Phones are so optimized stock. I've never needed to. Granted I do miss CMMod
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I used to do a lot of Moto tweaking and they're among the easiest but I no longer root or even want to. Though there are a couple of things I miss like Titanium Backup.

Is there root for the u.s. version's of the s20,s20 plus and s20 ultra devices?

Like can the t-mobile,Att or Verizon version of the devices be rooted. Thanks In advance!!!
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GDane1 said:
All of the U.S. Samsung Galaxy S20+ devices will all have locked bootloaders just like all of the other U.S branded Samsung devices so this device will never ever be able to be rooted correct.so if I want to do any rooting I need to buy a international version right? Thanks In advance!!!
You answered your own question, lol.
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tdevaughn said:
GDane1 said:
All of the U.S. Samsung Galaxy S20+ devices will all have locked bootloaders just like all of the other U.S branded Samsung devices so this device will never ever be able to be rooted correct.so if I want to do any rooting I need to buy a international version right? Thanks In advance!!!
You answered your own question, lol.
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So basically they are still locking down all the bootloaders correct that sucks why would you pay so much for your device when you get rid of it makes no sense.
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The phone works wonderfully for me. Haven't missed root in 3-4 years now.
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tdevaughn said:
The phone works wonderfully for me. Haven't missed root in 3-4 years now.
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Im with you , I always rooted my devices since I had a G1 (HTC Dream). Since Pie was released, and custom launchers are so good these days, I haven't bothered with any of my devices
....I do miss being able to remove system apps though (truly remove them) ahhh memories of the days when CyanogenMod was what a person would do immediately after getting a new device ....
I don't miss the headaches , the bugs, the constant flashing new roms, the constant clockworkmod/TWRP backups and restores ...
Android is now so polished that I honestly see no need for root anymore

The only need for root I have is getting my Proxmark to work with my phone.

I miss gravity box that's it

root is so much funner though lol

elliwigy said:
root is so much funner though lol
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Why do you get bragging that you have root access? Does it make you feel superior... This is a wonderful forum for people who love Root and you're simply just rubbing it in people's faces. I just don't get it!

akinkoff85 said:
Why do you get bragging that you have root access? Does it make you feel superior... This is a wonderful forum for people who love Root and you're simply just rubbing it in people's faces. I just don't get it!
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what r u talking about?
the conversation was about root and ppl were sharing they dont really need root and i said root is fun.. no bragging about anything..
instead of criticizing others opinions if you want root so bad just have a look around and you can achieve the same thing..
theres many others rooted at this point.. theres been a xda feed/article posted by another user who rooted his usa n20 then theres multiple twrp threads of users who rooted their usa model s10s s20s n20s n10s..theres even an app in labs to help u figure it out.. why ppl cant read or search before complaining, i just dont get it!

i think is root

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elliwigy said:
what r u talking about?
the conversation was about root and ppl were sharing they dont really need root and i said root is fun.. no bragging about anything..
instead of criticizing others opinions if you want root so bad just have a look around and you can achieve the same thing..
theres many others rooted at this point.. theres been a xda feed/article posted by another user who rooted his usa n20 then theres multiple twrp threads of users who rooted their usa model s10s s20s n20s n10s..theres even an app in labs to help u figure it out.. why ppl cant read or search before complaining, i just dont get it!
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Trying to find those threads to root USA s20. Next time, will buy a Korean version.

nomad247 said:
Trying to find those threads to root USA s20. Next time, will buy a Korean version.
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Here's the URL for root on US S20 variants.
Samsung Development | SamPWND
Unlock your bootloader on USA Model Samsung Galaxy devices! Visit https://www.sampwnd.com and have the SamPWND team help you!
www.sampwnd.com

varcor said:
Here's the URL for root on US S20 variants.
Samsung Development | SamPWND
Unlock your bootloader on USA Model Samsung Galaxy devices! Visit https://www.sampwnd.com and have the SamPWND team help you!
www.sampwnd.com
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Is this still the only way to root on the U.S. variants? I have seen this floating around for some time and while I have nothing but respect for the developer of this method, I have never paid for unlocking or root and don't want to begin. I would like root, but my desire is not so strong so as to pay $100 to obtain it.
My last rooting experience was with the ENG kernel on my S7 Edge. It sucked. LOL. I know what you've linked isn't a root service but an unlock, however after growing tired of the instability with the ENG kernel I eventually went stock. So now I've been without root for a couple years and have learned to live with it, which is why I don't really want to pay. If that's the only way, though, so be it.

nyr2k2 said:
Is this still the only way to root on the U.S. variants? I have seen this floating around for some time and while I have nothing but respect for the developer of this method, I have never paid for unlocking or root and don't want to begin. I would like root, but my desire is not so strong so as to pay $100 to obtain it.
My last rooting experience was with the ENG kernel on my S7 Edge. It sucked. LOL. I know what you've linked isn't a root service but an unlock, however after growing tired of the instability with the ENG kernel I eventually went stock. So now I've been without root for a couple years and have learned to live with it, which is why I don't really want to pay. If that's the only way, though, so be it.
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unfortunately its the only way at this time.

nyr2k2 said:
Is this still the only way to root on the U.S. variants? I have seen this floating around for some time and while I have nothing but respect for the developer of this method, I have never paid for unlocking or root and don't want to begin. I would like root, but my desire is not so strong so as to pay $100 to obtain it.
My last rooting experience was with the ENG kernel on my S7 Edge. It sucked. LOL. I know what you've linked isn't a root service but an unlock, however after growing tired of the instability with the ENG kernel I eventually went stock. So now I've been without root for a couple years and have learned to live with it, which is why I don't really want to pay. If that's the only way, though, so be it.
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So why aquire a device with a locked bootloader? There's lots of options for unlocked bootloaders even within Galaxy devices.

varcor said:
So why aquire a device with a locked bootloader? There's lots of options for unlocked bootloaders even within Galaxy devices.
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he will probably say he didn't know i.e. didn't research before hand lol

varcor said:
So why aquire a device with a locked bootloader? There's lots of options for unlocked bootloaders even within Galaxy devices.
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Any recent Samsung devices that can be bought in the US?

hajkan said:
Any recent Samsung devices that can be bought in the US?
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All of them? Samsung releases every model/device in the USA lol.. not sure what your question is.. U U1 W models are usually not possible to unlock bl and root without paid service so if you are asking about USA models that can do that by default then I cant think of any.