Develop Bugs

Thinking about buying, need some advice...

I'm on the fence between waiting for the N5 or getting the OG Pro.
Is the OG Pro difficult to root, flash custom recovery, CM 10.2, etc? (That's what I really want the device for)
Is the bootloader locked?
Any basic suggestions or tips would be appreciated.

The boot loader is locked. However, there is a work around called "Loki", hence the roms, which btw run great on the G Pro.
But I'd advise you to wait for the N5 due to it having a fully unlocked boot loader , more accessories and more support by both Google and XDA.
I will buy one for sure.

donalgodon said:
I'm on the fence between waiting for the N5 or getting the OG Pro.
Is the OG Pro difficult to root, flash custom recovery, CM 10.2, etc? (That's what I really want the device for)
Is the bootloader locked?
Any basic suggestions or tips would be appreciated.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OG Pro is simple to root, both cwm and twrp recoveries are easily available and working, and there is an official CM 10.2 available which is a nightly, so daily updates
So if these are your only considerations, you can buy the OG Pro with your eyes closed.
Sent from my LG-E980 using Tapatalk

vivebatu said:
OG Pro is simple to root, both cwm and twrp recoveries are easily available and working, and there is an official CM 10.2 available which is a nightly, so daily updates
So if these are your only considerations, you can buy the OG Pro with your eyes closed.
Sent from my LG-E980 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My only concern is that I don't know if the 980H is the same as the 980.
The 980H is the Panama version, the ROM from which is a popular flash option for this model in a Stock ROM. I'm actually in Panama, and this is where I'll purchase.
What about the root, recovery options? Should I use the one's for the 980? I don't see any for the H variant.

donalgodon said:
I'm on the fence between waiting for the N5 or getting the OG Pro.
Is the OG Pro difficult to root, flash custom recovery, CM 10.2, etc? (That's what I really want the device for)
Is the bootloader locked?
Any basic suggestions or tips would be appreciated.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OG Pro is a GREAT Device in its own way. If you need Removable battery, Micro SD slot then this device is suitable.
N5 has is pros and cons. U get latest S800 processor, direct updates from google, but only 16 or 32GB storage and non removable 2300 mah of N5 is no near to 3140mah of OGP. And LG will MOSTLY update OGP to 4.4 Kitkat by end of this year.
It is easy to flash custom roms on this device, well easier than HTC phones and there is going to be lot of development in future for this device. This device also have OFFICIAL support from Cyanogen mod team.(Correct me if i'm wrong).
For me OGP is better option than most of the other phones out there right now.

StarkV5 said:
OG Pro is a GREAT Device in its own way. If you need Removable battery, Micro SD slot then this device is suitable.
N5 has is pros and cons. U get latest S800 processor, direct updates from google, but only 16 or 32GB storage and non removable 2300 mah of N5 is no near to 3140mah of OGP. And LG will MOSTLY update OGP to 4.4 Kitkat by end of this year.
It is easy to flash custom roms on this device, well easier than HTC phones and there is going to be lot of development in future for this device. This device also have OFFICIAL support from Cyanogen mod team.(Correct me if i'm wrong).
For me OGP is better option than most of the other phones out there right now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't you think that LG will eventually patch the bootloader exploit and end the party?
That's what bothers me about it, because Samdung did basically the same thing recently with Knox.

donalgodon said:
Don't you think that LG will eventually patch the bootloader exploit and end the party?
That's what bothers me about it, because Samdung did basically the same thing recently with Knox.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
with custom roms we don't need official OTA updates anymore plus they're slow with the updates anyway

solaris2k said:
with custom roms we don't need official OTA updates anymore plus they're slow with the updates anyway
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just as long as those features aren't tied to the bootloader, then there's no problem, but if the case of Samdung's Knox bootloaders have illustrated anything, it's that this is always an option.
Without the Knox bootloader, 4.3 update broke Wi-Fi, Sound, etc. It's what pushed me to sell the S4 and be done with Samdung once and for all.

donalgodon said:
Just as long as those features aren't tied to the bootloader, then there's no problem, but if the case of Samdung's Knox bootloaders have illustrated anything, it's that this is always an option.
Without the Knox bootloader, 4.3 update broke Wi-Fi, Sound, etc. It's what pushed me to sell the S4 and be done with Samdung once and for all.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well Samdung are floating in the sky because of lots of sales and huge profit (about $10 billion i guess!!) so they don't care about the developer community and moving against it like Apple. Samdung is not apple but they don't understand it. they want to provide security on their devices like Apple does. Thats what they are trying with something called Knox bootloaders. This is one of the reason that kept me away from getting a Note 3. LG has long way to go before they become like Samdung. So i wouldn't worry about it for atleast 2 years! LOL

StarkV5 said:
Well Samdung are floating in the sky because of lots of sales and huge profit (about $10 billion i guess!!) so they don't care about the developer community and moving against it like Apple. Samdung is not apple but they don't understand it. they want to provide security on their devices like Apple does. Thats what they are trying with something called Knox bootloaders. This is one of the reason that kept me away from getting a Note 3. LG has long way to go before they become like Samdung. So i wouldn't worry about it for atleast 2 years! LOL
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, their protection scheme is similar. I forgot what they call it, but it's all the same sort of sham. It releases the corporation from liability for warranty service, regardless of what the issue is, if the "protection" flag is tripped.
I find myself dreaming often about what it would be like if a company (like LG, which is smaller than the competition) threw everything they had behind the Open Source and Development community and just made their devices with folks like us XDA members in mind! How many millions of us are there now? We probably buy more gadgets as a group than any other segment of the global population as a whole, yet we are basically ignored and treated like criminals.

donalgodon said:
I find myself dreaming often about what it would be like if a company (like LG, which is smaller than the competition) threw everything they had behind the Open Source and Development community and just made their devices with folks like us XDA members in mind! How many millions of us are there now? We probably buy more gadgets as a group than any other segment of the global population as a whole, yet we are basically ignored and treated like criminals.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
True!!! But the companies always think about the mass market first who are non-tech people who just buy and use the phone as it is..
The issue is warranty! when the phone is being used for development there is always risk of hard brick unless u know what you are doing with the phone. They don't want people messing their devices themselves and claim warranty for it. That is why the bootloaders are locked and flagged if unlocked for development purposes.
Which device did u decide to buy anyway??

StarkV5 said:
True!!! But the companies always think about the mass market first who are non-tech people who just buy and use the phone as it is..
The issue is warranty! when the phone is being used for development there is always risk of hard brick unless u know what you are doing with the phone. They don't want people messing their devices themselves and claim warranty for it. That is why the bootloaders are locked and flagged if unlocked for development purposes.
Which device did u decide to buy anyway??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, that's the reality, but I think there's a situation where companies can say, "Look, here's literally everything you need. All the documentation, sources, drivers, binaries... everything. You can play with your device all you want, but you assume that responsibility if something goes wrong." Then, they ought to make the flashing and modding tools part of the package. Make them robust, and invest in safe flashing systems. Fewer issues as a result.
I don't think it's fair that companies should be made to pay for stupidity, and I accept it as a cost of doing what we all love to do. This is what I thought the "Google Edition" devices were going to be all about, but even there, we still face a situation where so many things aren't provided properly.
I am hunting down a E980. To me, it represents the best value for the money right now. My plan is to use the Loki bootloader exploit, slap CM 10.2 on it and never look back. In fairness, LG's UI is a bit too colorful for my tastes, but it isn't anywhere near as hideous as Samdung's Touchwiz circus clowns on acid abomination.

donalgodon said:
I am hunting down a E980.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nice! :good:
I'm sure you will have great time with the device.

donalgodon said:
My only concern is that I don't know if the 980H is the same as the 980.
The 980H is the Panama version, the ROM from which is a popular flash option for this model in a Stock ROM. I'm actually in Panama, and this is where I'll purchase.
What about the root, recovery options? Should I use the one's for the 980? I don't see any for the H variant.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Bump
Sent from my One X using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

What is taking so long for G4 to get root??

I really want the g4 to get root access. I even have the H815 model but its a United States model. Is there any rooting methods for my model yet? I tried the LG Dev website and said doesnt support it yet.

Evnul000 said:
I really want the g4 to get root access. I even have the H815 model but its a United States model. Is there any rooting methods for my model yet? I tried the LG Dev website and said doesnt support it yet.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There are developers activly working on it. Be patient, LG hopefully will allow bootloader unlock soon. Untill then, no root method is currently available to us.
Sent from my LG-H815 using Tapatalk

There are some threads already about this, but to answer, it could be lots of factors. Some I read and some I made up
-Devs don't want to post and provide support for a 119 steps guide.
-The method they found is so risky that even doing it successfully has high chances of bricking the phone.
-The root exploit might reveal a concerning security hole so exploitable by malicious Apps/hackers that LG is gonna patch it right away.
-They're making a KOOL App/Scrip with some extras and a nice UI, capable of overcome any possible issues. Like survive the most hostile OTAs
-They might want to sell that ^ App.
-The App could be ready but some of the involved developers are not happy with it.
-They could be waiting for a $bounty$ that justifies the time they have spent on the project.
-The method they found does not qualify for that bounty.
-They have a life, Vacations and a nice Summer. Why to spend it in front of a monitor?

Then how long does it usually take for a stable way to root on a new device?

Evnul000 said:
Then how long does it usually take for a stable way to root on a new device?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Depending on the device it can take months. For example when i was developing for the Samsung S3. The USA Variant was rooted in around 1 month after the phone came out.
But the Australian one. Diff File Partition and had LTE took almost 6 months extra time to root because of the changes.
So just be patient buddy, you will know when it comes out. It's one of them things like a game bug you are waiting on. It takes time to Test it, source devices, package the software, approve the package. and test them on many phones from around the world. This all takes time cobba.
None of us want a pre-Release that could potentially BRICK our device. I didn't pay 800$ to buy a bookmark you get me?
So just :chill: ~ Narcarsiss out.

Evnul000 said:
I really want the g4 to get root access. I even have the H815 model but its a United States model. Is there any rooting methods for my model yet? I tried the LG Dev website and said doesnt support it yet.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
In simple words bounty. Sooner, you raise it, earlier you get it. Just joking. I think, we all G4 users equally wants the Root on our device, nobody is an exception, sorry!

How about just use your phone. Root comes when it comes.

Evnul000 said:
I really want the g4 to get root access. I even have the H815 model but its a United States model. Is there any rooting methods for my model yet? I tried the LG Dev website and said doesnt support it yet.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
People need to seriously stop asking this. It's getting quite annoying and I'm not even a Dev so I can only imagine how annoying it is for them.
GUGUITOMTG4 said:
There are some threads already about this, but to answer, it could be lots of factors. Some I read and some I made up
-Devs don't want to post and provide support for a 119 steps guide.
-The method they found is so risky that even doing it successfully has high chances of bricking the phone.
-The root exploit might reveal a concerning security hole so exploitable by malicious Apps/hackers that LG is gonna patch it right away.
-They're making a KOOL App/Scrip with some extras and a nice UI, capable of overcome any possible issues. Like survive the most hostile OTAs
-They might want to sell that ^ App.
-The App could be ready but some of the involved developers are not happy with it.
-They could be waiting for a $bounty$ that justifies the time they have spent on the project.
-The method they found does not qualify for that bounty.
-They have a life, Vacations and a nice Summer. Why to spend it in front of a monitor?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Devs don't usually wait for bounties to go up.It's probably more annoying on their part to hear constant whining than waiting for more money (which never pays out that much anyways). Any root method they have will qualify for the bounty I posted. The unlock bootloader will be the only part that might not qualify.

Evnul000 said:
I really want the g4 to get root access. I even have the H815 model but its a United States model. Is there any rooting methods for my model yet? I tried the LG Dev website and said doesnt support it yet.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My guess is when the g5 comes out we shall have root. If root is a must this is not the phone for you. I would head on over to Samsung for your needs or nexus.
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & LG G4

BACARDILIMON said:
My guess is when the g5 comes out we shall have root. If root is a must this is not the phone for you. I would head on over to Samsung for your needs or nexus.
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & LG G4
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am about to do that

narcarsiss said:
Depending on the device it can take months. For example when i was developing for the Samsung S3. The USA Variant was rooted in around 1 month after the phone came out.
But the Australian one. Diff File Partition and had LTE took almost 6 months extra time to root because of the changes.
So just be patient buddy, you will know when it comes out. It's one of them things like a game bug you are waiting on. It takes time to Test it, source devices, package the software, approve the package. and test them on many phones from around the world. This all takes time cobba.
None of us want a pre-Release that could potentially BRICK our device. I didn't pay 800$ to buy a bookmark you get me?
So just :chill: ~ Narcarsiss out.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You paid $800??
Sent from my SM-G920T

Evnul000 said:
I am about to do that
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Okay. See ya.

ambervals6 said:
You paid $800??
Sent from my SM-G920T
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Welcome to Australia

Man this phone hasnt even been out long look at the AT&T note 4 lol. I sold it and bought the EU model of this phone. I'll never buy another carrier phone again. Now this just needs ROMs.
Sent from my LG-H815 using XDA Free mobile app

No more developing?

It kind of looks like everyone got rid of there G4? Or was it just not a very popular phone? I've been browsing through the topics a bit and there just doesn't seem to have been as much custom roms or kernels as with other phones in general..
Which is only convincing me more to get the new OnePlus..

runittwiice said:
It kind of looks like everyone got rid of there G4? Or was it just not a very popular phone? I've been browsing through the topics a bit and there just doesn't seem to have been as much custom roms or kernels as with other phones in general..
Which is only convincing me more to get the new OnePlus..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's not that we are getting rid of the G4 nor it is not popular, it is in fact a very good phone other than its terrible battery life. It's LG who makes us get rid of them. I had no intention to get an OnePlus 3T at all if it wasn't the infamous bootloop issue kicking in. Hope this answers your question.

runittwiice said:
It kind of looks like everyone got rid of there G4? Or was it just not a very popular phone? I've been browsing through the topics a bit and there just doesn't seem to have been as much custom roms or kernels as with other phones in general..
Which is only convincing me more to get the new OnePlus..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They have horrible hardware. Its not if it will bootloop but when. My g4 of 2 years died the other day. Lol i got me a g5. No root no unlock no roms. Just the way i like it. Yea rite. This phone really wasnt popular cause of the horribly locked bootloaders. And hardware issues combined. Ure best bet would be to ditch it asap and get somthin else

It's a shame that LG seemingly supports few models like single SIM international version like the LG H815! For the long 2 years, dual sim didn't even get bootloader unlock! I should have got the LG H815 instead of the H818P. Now I'm aware that LG G6 single sim international version (LG H870) already having root, custom ROM as well as TWRP support! That'll be my next device.

Ali Mirza said:
It's a shame that LG seemingly supports few models like single SIM international version like the LG H815! For the long 2 years, dual sim didn't even get bootloader unlock! I should have got the LG H815 instead of the H818P. Now I'm aware that LG G6 single sim international version (LG H870) already having root, custom ROM as well as TWRP support! That'll be my next device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yea im surprised lg doesnt punt software on thier batteries and devices to reconize official batteries and such
i just got a g5 and i cant say im not impressed cause i am but same thing here root on first version released and every one else is on the back burner now with absolutly no future
the g4 and g5 and any of lgs devices except certain models are dead ends now even g4 and hardware issues twrp bootloader unlock id buy another one i know i could get the rite model but shouldnt have too
lg made thereown bed they can sleep in it they want to sell more devices then.

SCH-I435/serranoltevzw - Custom ROM/Recovery support?

I've been given my brother's old phone, a Galaxy S4 Mini SCH-I435 Verizon running 4.2.2, and wanted to see if there was any development at all happening for this specific variant of the S4 Mini. it shares the same hardware as the serranoltexx variants, but I haven't found conclusive proof of this particular model having any sort of recovery or custom ROMs. I've rooted the phone and disabled KNOX just fine, I just need to know where I'm supposed to look from here.
I have a Moto Droid Razr as my daily running the LineageOS 20171110 14.1 build at the current. this sort of thing isn't new to me, I'm just reaching out for possible definitive answers to this plight I'm in. 4.4.2 is *not* acceptable to be using on a phone in this day and age. Has anyone ever actually gotten one of these to work properly with the serranoltexx ROMs? I know they share the same hardware, but I'm more worried about bricking the phone than I was doing it with the Razr since that has endless information about it out there, yet the I435 information, if any, is flooded by model name for the international LTE variant of the same base hardware.
Thanks in advance for any info anyone may know.
An edit: I've found actual proof that the bootloader is locked. the S4 from Verizon and AT&T also had this issue, and it turns out that the developer of Safestrap for my own daily-driver Razr, @Hashcode, also made one for the Verizon S4 non-mini. This excites me, yet pains me, as I don't think the two are hardware-compatible, meaning one would have to be made up somehow for this phone. Sadly, I think interest in the Verizon variant of this phone has dwindled to nothing. I'd love to have an AMOLED LineageOS device available to me that actually has more than a gig of RAM.

galaxy-s4-mini/general/confirmed-rom-sch-i435l-i435-to-i435l-t3548206
There are plenty r890/i435l boards on sale over at eBay. If you look hard, this mod costs 15 bucks +/-

Zz25 said:
galaxy-s4-mini/general/confirmed-rom-sch-i435l-i435-to-i435l-t3548206
There are plenty r890/i435l boards on sale over at eBay. If you look hard, this mod costs 15 bucks +/-
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Could you explain this for me?
I too have a SCH-i425 that I've been using since it was released. For the last year or so I've been using it exclusively to accept Square payments but recently Square changed their app so it will not work on pre-android 5.0 versions. My phone is 4.4.2. I'm hoping to upgrade it to 5.0 so I can continue using it as I've been otherwise I have to buy a new phone which I really, really, do not want to do.
Thanks so much!

Can my S9 be rooted or not?

Hi guys, Im sorry if this is a silly question, I'm not an expert, I remember when it was fairly easy to flash custom roms back in the days of S2, S4... but now things have changed so much that personally I get confused between this many versions and variants... I have read along many posts that suggest my S9 can not be rooted, because of locked bootloader, but I have some mixed up settings(I think) in my S9 that doesn't help me to be completely sure.
My S9 has the model SM-G960U printed on the back., but in my Settings under Device Information, my model displayed is SM-6960U1 and my build number is R16NW.G960U1UES3ARI1; I just want to know if I can really root it, I don't intend to flash custom roms to be honest, Im satisfied with just to be able to root, install my TitaniumBackUp Pro and freeze/defrost apps I use from time to time, I have read also the people root their S9 but lacking vowifi or camera performance, but I don't know if that would apply to me.
Also, I tapped the build number 7 times in order to enable Developer options, and I couldn't find OEM Unlock on it, that is not good isn't?
I just got this S9, hence my caution to ask before jump and flash things that could brick it.
Thanks in advance!!

There's nothing to flash because the bootloader is locked.

Ditto

ChongoDroid said:
There's nothing to flash because the bootloader is locked.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Rather than start another thread, Iv got a couple of questions. is this because he has a snapdragon version?
As aposed to the exynos version which can be unlocked?

throbberx8 said:
Rather than start another thread, Iv got a couple of questions. is this because he has a snapdragon version?
As aposed to the exynos version which can be unlocked?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes. There are some snapdragon variants that can be unlocked (9600) and they're sold in China and South America afaik. Limited support but there is lineage and twrp here.

ChongoDroid said:
Yes. There are some snapdragon variants that can be unlocked (9600) and they're sold in China and South America afaik. Limited support but there is lineage and twrp here.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry for the huge delay, this has been a rough week for me, and many thanks for your answers.
it really sucks though, and I suppose there's not much hope in a possible way to unlock the bootloader in the future?
I'm not that good seller nor I have the will to actually put it on sell, I assume I will have to accept the fact that I won't be able to root this one ever :/
Sent from my SM-G960U1 using Tapatalk

FrankI897 said:
Sorry for the huge delay, this has been a rough week for me, and many thanks for your answers.
it really sucks though, and I suppose there's not much hope in a possible way to unlock the bootloader in the future?
I'm not that good seller nor I have the will to actually put it on sell, I assume I will have to accept the fact that I won't be able to root this one ever :/
Sent from my SM-G960U1 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Snapdragon bootloaders have not been unlocked since at least the S7 days (Maybe earlier), buy a Exynos S9 if you want and unlocked BL

I used to root all the time. But don't see the need some the S7. Phones are so optimized stock. I've never needed to. Granted I do miss CMMod

Rally517 said:
I used to root all the time. But don't see the need some the S7. Phones are so optimized stock. I've never needed to. Granted I do miss CMMod
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I used to do a lot of Moto tweaking and they're among the easiest but I no longer root or even want to. Though there are a couple of things I miss like Titanium Backup.