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http://www.androidpolice.com/2018/0...lg-v30-674-99-150-off-bh-no-tax-except-ny-nj/
Wow.
But ignore the misinformation in the article about it not being unlocked. The writer says you need the LG V30+ to be "unlocked". Yet, their screenshot even shows the wording that the B&H Photo LG V30 is carrier unlocked. And LG bootloader unlock is coming soon, for both the V30 and V30+. But then a lot of these tech writers are totally ignorant.
Hopefully b and h photo will also offer that 150 off on the v30+ once they realize they sold like 3 of them
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Hopefully b and h photo will also offer that 150 off on the v30+ once they realize they sold like 3 of them
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I bought one of their V30+. It was my 2nd LG device purchase, to get the $400 rebate card. So, my average price was $665 for the two phones.
But now that the time limit has almost passed to fulfill that promotion (45 days from December 2), yeah a discount would be nice.
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Wow.
But ignore the misinformation in the article about it not being unlocked. The writer says you need the LG V30+ to be "unlocked". Yet, their screenshot even shows the wording that the B&H Photo LG V30 is carrier unlocked. And LG bootloader unlock is coming soon, for both the V30 and V30+. But then a lot of these tech writers are totally ignorant.
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Doesn't say it's not unlocked, says you need to buy v30+ for an unlocked unit in black
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Doesn't say it's not unlocked, says you need to buy v30+ for an unlocked unit in black
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YES, it did. My comments made them correct it. Here's the direct quote from the original article:
"you'll need to buy the not-discounted $929.99 V30+ to get unlocked".
They've since edited the article, so you now see what the writer Richard Gao says he meant to say -- not what he actually wrote originally. I pointed out their error in the comments at the bottom of the article, with that direct quote.
In fact below my comments, the writer Richard Gao says he's now changed it --- due to my comments:
That was poor wording on my part. I meant to say that you'd have to buy the V30+ to get an unlocked model in black
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The V30+ on Amazon is down to $903, despite still being out of stock. Not a significant change but hope it will drop more soon.
http://a.co/hxi1h39
yeah I pulled the trigger and bought the V30 from B&H, should be here tomorrow, my essential phone is going back to Best buy tomorrow.
You will like this phone. Good move. I'm waiting for the v30 plus to ha e a realistic price
I've been waiting on this phone to go down in price. I killed my Moto x pure trying to change the battery. Twelve hours before it was discounted I bought a V30 off eBay and paid more than I should've. I wasn't even thinking about the warranty. Just my luck.
The V30+ just dropped down to $775 on B&H.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1379518-REG/lg_lgus998u_a1usbk_v30_unlocked_phone_black.html
Nice find! Still having a hard time pulling the trigger. Even though I believe this is the best phone out, I doubt it will have any developer support... I can't believe lg won't even allow the boot loader to be unlocked yet. Come on!
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Nice find! Still having a hard time pulling the trigger. Even though I believe this is the best phone out, I doubt it will have any developer support... I can't believe lg won't even allow the boot loader to be unlocked yet. Come on!
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That is frustrating. It shouldn't take that long.
Yes, I know LG waited six weeks for the US997 G6 (mid May, to very end of June), but that was ridiculous. Still, after that was dev support.
By the way, January 15 will be six weeks mark for our open market US998 V30. Let's hope the V30+ release at end of December didn't reset the timer?
Yet, Europe H930 was only three weeks after release.
LG doesn't seem to understand their phones would be more popular if they preemptively put them on their Bootloader Unlock list. So you would know for sure when the phone have out, you could immediately root it.
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Nice find! Still having a hard time pulling the trigger. Even though I believe this is the best phone out, I doubt it will have any developer support... I can't believe lg won't even allow the boot loader to be unlocked yet. Come on!
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I'm beginning to feel the same way. Looking like oneplus will own the dev community from here on out. Even at the discounted price, it's hard to say that the v30 is $200+ more of a phone than the 5t is especially if you are into roms and such. If you want the latest hardware with unlockable bootloaders out of the gate, I'm not sure where else to look. For me personally, Id like external sd, a solid camera, AOSP roms and ip67/68. Difficult to find nowadays. Anyone?
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I'm beginning to feel the same way. Looking like oneplus will own the dev community from here on out. Even at the discounted price, it's hard to say that the v30 is $200+ more of a phone than the 5t is especially if you are into roms and such.
If you want the latest hardware with unlockable bootloaders out of the gate, I'm not sure where else to look. For me personally, Id like external sd, a solid camera, AOSP roms and ip67/68. Difficult to find nowadays. Anyone?
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ROMs can't add QHD, Qi wireless charging, and IP68 rating. Until OnePlus releases a true premium phone, I can't stand them. Even the Nexus phones were the first or some of the first to have 1080p and then 1440p QHD as well as Qi wireless charging. The people who say the Nexus phones didn't have the best specs aren't talking about hardware specs or features. Yeah, Google skimped on battery and their cameras weren't FANTASTIC, but the hardware specs and features were always cutting edge. So, NO OnePlus is not a "Nexus" replacement. To me, they are hype masters and pretenders.
The only other option is the Exynos Samsung variants which have OEM bootloader unlock out of the gate OR the Hong Kong Snapdragon Samsung variants which have OEM bootloader unlock. Hong Kong and mainland China Galaxy Snapdragon 835 S8/S8+ have had TWRP and root since last July, because they have simple OEM bootloader unlock. And they have all the U.S. carrier bands. Great to import via eBay. But I'm not a huge Samsung fan.
Now whether there are any custom ROMs for the Snapdragon 835 bootloader unlocked Hong Kong/mainland China variants, I do not know. I do know there are lots for the Exynos bootloader unlocked variants.
As soon as LG gets off their butt and puts the US998 on the bootloader unlock list you will see dev interest, just like the LG G6 starting in last July.
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ROMs can't add QHD, Qi wireless charging, and IP68 rating. Until OnePlus releases a true premium phone, I can't stand them. Even the Nexus phones were the first or some of the first to have 1080p and then 1440p QHD as well as Qi wireless charging. The people who say the Nexus phones didn't have the best specs aren't talking about hardware specs or features. Yeah, Google skimped on battery and their cameras weren't FANTASTIC, but the hardware specs and features were always cutting edge. So, NO OnePlus is not a "Nexus" replacement. To me, they are hype masters and pretenders.
The only other option is the Exynos Samsung variants which have OEM bootloader unlock out of the gate OR the Hong Kong Snapdragon Samsung variants which have OEM bootloader unlock. Hong Kong and mainland China Galaxy Snapdragon 835 S8/S8+ have had TWRP and root since last July, because they have simple OEM bootloader unlock. And they have all the U.S. carrier bands. Great to import via eBay. But I'm not a huge Samsung fan.
Now whether there are any custom ROMs for the Snapdragon 835 bootloader unlocked Hong Kong/mainland China variants, I do not know. I do know there are lots for the Exynos bootloader unlocked variants.
As soon as LG gets off their butt and puts the US998 on the bootloader unlock list you will see dev interest, just like the LG G6 starting in last July.
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I hope you are right and I'll be on board. I'm never going to buy a device until I see the proof in the pudding, though. Even if you look at the most popular device threads on xda, I think my statement above about oneplus has merit. We don't have to agree with what the masses want, but ultimately popularity will dictate the direction things will go for the development community.
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I hope you are right and I'll be on board. I'm never going to buy a device until I see the proof in the pudding, though. Even if you look at the most popular device threads on xda, I think my statement above about oneplus has merit. We don't have to agree with what the masses want, but ultimately popularity will dictate the direction things will go for the development community.
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I normally wait until I can root from the first day I own the phone, but this time I had to go ahead and buy... but knowing LG would/should soon place the open market LG US998 on the LG Developer Bootloader Unlock list.
My rants against OnePlus are the same as against last year's Essential. They both pretend to be premium phones, but really are not. They're just missing too much stuff. There's also a whole cadre of Chinese 1080p slabs that fit that category too.
The only real competition LG V30 has is the Samsung Note 8. Maybe the Pixel 2 XL if you lower your standards a little. Yes, for dev work, the Pixel 2 XL has an advantage... But just no Qi wireless charging (one of my requirements) nor headset jack.
(I bet Google adds Qi wireless charging back for the 2018 Pixels, now that Apple has added it.)
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I normally wait until I can root from the first day I own the phone, but this time I had to go ahead and buy... but knowing LG would/should soon place the open market LG US998 on the LG Developer Bootloader Unlock list.
My rants against OnePlus are the same as against last year's Essential. They both pretend to be premium phones but really are not. They're just missing too much stuff. There's also a whole cadre of Chinese 1080p slabs that fit that category too.
The only real competition V30 has is the Samsung Note 8. Maybe the Pixel 2 XL if you lower your standards a little. For dev work, the Pixel 2 XL has an advantage... But just no Qi wireless charging (one of my requirements) nor headset jack.
(I bet Google adds Qi wireless charging back for the 2018 Pixels, now that Apple has added it.)
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It's the 'would/should' thing I'm worried about. Plus I'm willing to wait for the prices to fall even farther (unless we get unlocked bootloaders soon) as we get into Snapdragon 845 device territory. After all SD 835 is soooooo last year . I get the suspicion that the v30 isn't selling well at all as evidenced by the b+h sales as well as carrier BOGO offers. We usually only see BOGO on devices that sell crazy volume or inventory they are trying to clear. The v30 is likely the latter.
Either way, I spend way too much time refreshing these xda v30 threads and wait impatiently for good news sooner than later.
This of course is completely anecdotal but after I talked up the V30 at work, three iPhone users switched over to the V30 (they purchased from their respective carriers) and they all love it. It could be true it isn't selling that well but LG isn't and hasn't ever really been a market leader, they always seem to discount phones quickly, have promos, etc. In any case, I'm confident in ChazzMatt's prediction of the phone being on the bootloader unlock list pretty soon and I don't think there is a better phone out there for my needs. It's not perfect but it's enough for me.
I am an idiot... I just pulled the trigger on the v30+.
In my dream it will be rooted with Resurrection remix installed. Don't know why I did this cause the chance of that are so slim...
This phone is amazing though!
Is purchasing a Pixel 2 XL in 2019 worth it? I had originally purchased this phone immediately upon release but then the news of the screen issues surfaced and I cancelled my order. I was purchasing one sight unseen and didn't want to get a device with issues. I went and looked at roughly 6 devices between Best Buy and Verizon, after cancelling my order, and they all exhibited pretty significant blue shift and each phone was slightly different. This made cancelling my order a smart thing in my opinion. Paying $900+ for a phone with a crappy screen isn't something I would ever consider. I bought the Galaxy S9+ instead and it's display is utterly astonishing, truly spectacular.
Now to the present, I have just purchased two Pixel 2 XLs, one a factory replacement and the other a lightly used unit. Paid $330 total and I thought that was an excellent deal. The interesting thing is that both these phones have screen that are significantly better than the ones I viewed nearly 2 years ago. They are for my parents as Christmas gifts and it's now got me thinking that maybe I should jump on one.
I found the below listing on eBay and was wonder if it seems legit. Says the devices are new. Should I take a shot at one you think?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Google-Pixel-2-XL-64GB-128GB-Verizon-GSM-Unlocked-Android-4G-Smartphone/383292162828?var=651785938283
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Is purchasing a Pixel 2 XL in 2019 worth it? I had originally purchased this phone immediately upon release but then the news of the screen issues surfaced and I cancelled my order. I was purchasing one sight unseen and didn't want to get a device with issues. I went and looked at roughly 6 devices between Best Buy and Verizon, after cancelling my order, and they all exhibited pretty significant blue shift and each phone was slightly different. This made cancelling my order a smart thing in my opinion. Paying $900+ for a phone with a crappy screen isn't something I would ever consider. I bought the Galaxy S9+ instead and it's display is utterly astonishing, truly spectacular.
Now to the present, I have just purchased two Pixel 2 XLs, one a factory replacement and the other a lightly used unit. Paid $330 total and I thought that was an excellent deal. The interesting thing is that both these phones have screen that are significantly better than the ones I viewed nearly 2 years ago. They are for my parents as Christmas gifts and it's now got me thinking that maybe I should jump on one.
I found the below listing on eBay and was wonder if it seems legit. Says the devices are new. Should I take a shot at one you think?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Google-Pix...d-4G-Smartphone/383292162828?var=651785938283
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It seems legit, and that's a good price, however, it appears to be a Verizon variant, which means you probably can't unlock the bootloader if you wanted to root it.
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It seems legit, and that's a good price, however, it appears to be a Verizon variant, which means you probably can't unlock the bootloader if you wanted to root it.
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It's odd cause it says Verizon GSM Unlocked. Verizon isn't GSM it's CDMA and why would it also say Unlocked. I believe the seller is in Hong Kong so I think it just might be an English thing.
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It's odd cause it says Verizon GSM Unlocked. Verizon isn't GSM it's CDMA and why would it also say Unlocked. I believe the seller is in Hong Kong so I think it just might be an English thing.
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Basically means that it's carrier unlocked. The P2XL will work on GSM networks as well.
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Basically means that it's carrier unlocked. The P2XL will work on GSM networks as well.
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That's what I was thinking but the way the guy lists the heading is confusing. If you look at the item details it says AT&T, T-Mobile, Unlocked, Verizon. Would be easier if it just stated unlocked and works with all major US carriers. In any case I have asked the seller a direct question to confirm the fact it is unlocked. I am still rocking my S9+ which just updated to Android 10 and have been thrilled with it, but not having root and the ability to backup all my data is annoying. Even though the displays on the devices I just bought are way better than the initial XL releases, they still aren't as good as the S9+. Samsung simply makes the best displays. Hard to pass up $269 for a brand new factory Pixel 2 XL though. Unfortunately the Pixel 3 XL and Pixel 4 XL just don't do it for me, and the 4 XL isn't getting great reviews.
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That's what I was thinking but the way the guy lists the heading is confusing. If you look at the item details it says AT&T, T-Mobile, Unlocked, Verizon. Would be easier if it just stated unlocked and works with all major US carriers. In any case I have asked the seller a direct question to confirm the fact it is unlocked. I am still rocking my S9+ which just updated to Android 10 and have been thrilled with it, but not having root and the ability to backup all my data is annoying. Even though the displays on the devices I just bought are way better than the initial XL releases, they still aren't as good as the S9+. Samsung simply makes the best displays. Hard to pass up $269 for a brand new factory Pixel 2 XL though. Unfortunately the Pixel 3 XL and Pixel 4 XL just don't do it for me, and the 4 XL isn't getting great reviews.
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I hear ya on the Sammy displays! My wife's note 9 display is beautiful. Having said that, it still has stutters from time to time, lots of bloat, and no root. I absolutely love my rooted P4XL despite what the reviews say. Runs like a champ, and I get 2 day battery life because I'm a light user. I came from the P2XL, which I still keep as my backup. It was a great device for 2 years, and still works great. However, it feels really slow compared to my P4XL :good:
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I hear ya on the Sammy displays! My wife's note 9 display is beautiful. Having said that, it still has stutters from time to time, lots of bloat, and no root. I absolutely love my rooted P4XL despite what the reviews say. Runs like a champ, and I get 2 day battery life because I'm a light user. I came from the P2XL, which I still keep as my backup. It was a great device for 2 years, and still works great. However, it feels really slow compared to my P4XL :good:
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Did the P4XL go back to using Samsung displays? I know the P2XL used LG P-OLED. I just wish they wouldn't hadn't done away with the fingerprint biometric reader.
It's a tough choice to give up my S9+ and try out the P2XL. I've got used to the S9+ and the UI doesn't bother me, especially since I installed the Pixel 2 XL Launcher . The S9+ is snappy and beautiful, but not root capable, and that's a bummer. S9+ also has expandable memory, wireless charging, and headphone jack. Man it's a tough call, I've been kicking it around for days now. The money isn't the issue at all, it's the giving up the S9+ itself, I have enjoyed it. It's the best not rooted phone I have ever had, and I haven't had a single issue with it. In the end, I am still looking to switch to the Pixel platform, but definitely didn't like the P3XL and I'm still evaluating the P4XL. We'll see what the P5XL brings to the table.
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Did the P4XL go back to using Samsung displays? I know the P2XL used LG P-OLED. I just wish they wouldn't hadn't done away with the fingerprint biometric reader.
It's a tough choice to give up my S9+ and try out the P2XL. I've got used to the S9+ and the UI doesn't bother me, especially since I installed the Pixel 2 XL Launcher . The S9+ is snappy and beautiful, but not root capable, and that's a bummer. S9+ also has expandable memory, wireless charging, and headphone jack. Man it's a tough call, I've been kicking it around for days now. The money isn't the issue at all, it's the giving up the S9+ itself, I have enjoyed it. It's the best not rooted phone I have ever had, and I haven't had a single issue with it. In the end, I am still looking to switch to the Pixel platform, but definitely didn't like the P3XL and I'm still evaluating the P4XL. We'll see what the P5XL brings to the table.
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You're serious S9+ cannot be rooted?
Root is essential for me. I can't live without AdAway, Titanium Backup and Island.
quera said:
You're serious S9+ cannot be rooted?
Root is essential for me. I can't live without AdAway, Titanium Backup and Island.
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Nope, Snapdragon version can't be rooted. It really does suck as Android still doesn't allow backup of all app data via Google drive backup. I should say that developers have disabled backup within their app, Google doesn't control it. So you're left completely setting up your new phone for the apps that don't allow Google drive backup. Samsung has a great app, Smart Switch, but it still suffers from app developers who have disabled app backup.
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Nope, Snapdragon version can't be rooted. It really does suck as Android still doesn't allow backup of all app data via Google drive backup. I should say that developers have disabled backup within their app, Google doesn't control it. So you're left completely setting up your new phone for the apps that don't allow Google drive backup. Samsung has a great app, Smart Switch, but it still suffers from app developers who have disabled app backup.
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This method still works for backing everything up to your pc if you'd like to give it a try. No root required :good:
https://9to5google.com/2017/11/04/how-to-backup-restore-android-device-data-android-basics/
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This method still works for backing everything up to your pc if you'd like to give it a try. No root required :good:
https://9to5google.com/2017/11/04/how-to-backup-restore-android-device-data-android-basics/
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Unfortunately, I have tried this and any app that has ADB backup disabled will not backup. This is the same method the app Helium attempts to use and many apps won't backup because the developer has set ADB backup to disable.
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Unfortunately, I have tried this and any app that has ADB backup disabled will not backup. This is the same method the app Helium attempts to use and many apps won't backup because the developer has set ADB backup to disable.
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Well ain't that a kick in the can! Guess that's why we like to root. At least for now, and until android becomes iOS 2.0, TiBu still works for user apps.
I went ahead and pulled the string on the eBay listing I posted. It's definitely a seller in Hong Kong so that worries me a bit. Luckily VISA or Mastercard are pretty good if you get scammed. Happened to me once on a purchase that was made out of China. The item I got was not as described and PayPal unfortunately wouldn't resolve it for some reason. Kind of irritated me that they wouldn't, but my VISA took care of it and performed a charge back no problems at all. If it comes and is perfect by all accounts, I'll let folks know it's legit. For that price you could get a fresh P2XL and rock on for years to come.
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Well ain't that a kick in the can! Guess that's why we like to root. At least for now, and until android becomes iOS 2.0, TiBu still works for user apps.
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, a kick in the can for sure! Just pulled the string on that eBay listing. We'll see how it turns out and I'll be glad to get back in the root game.
robn30 said:
, a kick in the can for sure! Just pulled the string on that eBay listing. We'll see how it turns out and I'll be glad to get back in the root game.
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I wish you luck my friend, and hope that you can indeed root that device. However, don't be overly surprised if you can't ?
Badger50 said:
I wish you luck my friend, and hope that you can indeed root that device. However, don't be overly surprised if you can't [emoji848]
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Yeah if I get the feeling that it's carrier locked, I'll send it back. No way I would go this route if root isn't possible. We will see I guess, hoping for the best.
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It's odd cause it says Verizon GSM Unlocked. Verizon isn't GSM it's CDMA and why would it also say Unlocked. I believe the seller is in Hong Kong so I think it just might be an English thing.
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This isn't correct. Verizon is both GSM and CDMA now, and as of January 1, 2020 they will be dropping support for CDMA completely.
https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/knowledge-base-218813/
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This isn't correct. Verizon is both GSM and CDMA now, and as of January 1, 2020 they will be dropping support for CDMA completely.
https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/knowledge-base-218813/
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So now our pixels will now be on GSM? That finally makes sense :good:
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This isn't correct. Verizon is both GSM and CDMA now, and as of January 1, 2020 they will be dropping support for CDMA completely.
https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/knowledge-base-218813/
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Verizon isn't GSM. It's currently CDMA and LTE with 5G rolling out. That article simply states that old 3G and non-HD voice 4G will no longer be able to activate on Verizon's network. Verizon has never been GSM, to my knowledge. Soon there will be no such thing as GSM or CDMA, only 4G and 5G, and whatever comes after that.
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Verizon isn't GSM. It's currently CDMA and LTE with 5G rolling out. That article simply states that old 3G and non-HD voice 4G will no longer be able to activate on Verizon's network. Verizon has never been GSM, to my knowledge. Soon there will be no such thing as GSM or CDMA, only 4G and 5G, and whatever comes after that.
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The LTE network on Verizon is a GSM network.
https://community.verizonwireless.com/t5/Bring-Your-Own-Device/Is-there-a-GSM-network/td-p/1072919
So I'm from Europe and bought the G8 from eBay (US seller). It hasn't arrived yet, but I'd rather know now. It says it's GSM unlocked and it should work with my carrier, so no problem there apparently.
But regarding software updates, will I get OTA updates even when I'm using a completely different carrier? I'm not gonna be using AT&T, T-Mobile or Sprint SIM card. I will be using an European SIM. so will I still receive over-the-air updates normally or will I have to flash a different KDZ? Thanks in advance for your replies.
Also I must warn people about the G8S. I think everyone knows by now it's the crappier version of the G8. I've had it for a while but unfortunately I dropped it once and now there's a huge crack on the back. The fall also appeared to have affected the wide angle camera which is unusable now (there's some white dots all over when taking pictures or filming videos). It's a VERY fragile phone so just think twice and perhaps consider buying the G8 (which has the MIL-STD-810G rating) instead, from sellers on Ebay that ship internationally.
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So I'm from Europe and bought the G8 from eBay (US seller). It hasn't arrived yet, but I'd rather know now. It says it's GSM unlocked and it should work with my carrier, so no problem there apparently.
But regarding software updates, will I get OTA updates even when I'm using a completely different carrier? I'm not gonna be using AT&T, T-Mobile or Sprint SIM card. I will be using an European SIM. so will I still receive over-the-air updates normally or will I have to flash a different KDZ? Thanks in advance for your replies.
Also I must warn people about the G8S. I think everyone knows by now it's the crappier version of the G8. I've had it for a while but unfortunately I dropped it once and now there's a huge crack on the back. The fall also appeared to have affected the wide angle camera which is unusable now (there's some white dots all over when taking pictures or filming videos). It's a VERY fragile phone so just think twice and perhaps consider buying the G8 (which has the MIL-STD-810G rating) instead, from sellers on Ebay that ship internationally.
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It should recieve otas, but for some reason people here have had problems. You probably bought a Sprint phone, and I also bought that and recieved otas while being on a different network. I don't know if being in Europe makes a difference
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So I'm from Europe and bought the G8 from eBay (US seller). It hasn't arrived yet, but I'd rather know now. It says it's GSM unlocked and it should work with my carrier, so no problem there apparently.
But regarding software updates, will I get OTA updates even when I'm using a completely different carrier? I'm not gonna be using AT&T, T-Mobile or Sprint SIM card. I will be using an European SIM. so will I still receive over-the-air updates normally or will I have to flash a different KDZ? Thanks in advance for your replies.
Also I must warn people about the G8S. I think everyone knows by now it's the crappier version of the G8. I've had it for a while but unfortunately I dropped it once and now there's a huge crack on the back. The fall also appeared to have affected the wide angle camera which is unusable now (there's some white dots all over when taking pictures or filming videos). It's a VERY fragile phone so just think twice and perhaps consider buying the G8 (which has the MIL-STD-810G rating) instead, from sellers on Ebay that ship internationally.
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AT&T and Sprint versions won't receive updates
But T-Mobile and Verizon will
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AT&T and Sprint versions won't receive updates
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source?
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I presently own a LG v40 ATT and LG G8 T-Mobile my LG v40 never get an ota update but my LG G8 does
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I presently own a LG v40 ATT and LG G8 T-Mobile my LG v40 never get an ota update but my LG G8 does
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Interesting. Thanks for the info.
I have the Sprint version with an AT&T sim and I have received all ota updates so far.
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Interesting. Thanks for the info.
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Yes they should all work. That's just wierd glitches by chance that guy is talking about. I even uninstalled all Sprint stuff and still recieved otas
In the case of AT&T models, it is not a glitch: They are known to only provide updates if you're an AT&T postpaid customer or on one of a few AT&T MVNOs. Strangely, AT&T-owned Cricket isn't one of them (last I heard). AT&T also doesn't publish KDZs, so you cannot update manually. Check the V30, V35 and V40 forums, you'll find lots of threads discussing this.
T-Mobile models generally get OTA updates no matter which network you're on. They also publish KDZs, so you can update manually. Same with Verizon. Sprint doesn't publish KDZs, but I believe their models do receive OTA updates, even on other networks.
While it would seem that T-Mobile models are more attractive because of this, the opposite is generally true, since they are very hard to carrier unlock: They can ONLY be unlocked with T-Mobile's Device Unlock app, NOT with codes from 3rd parties. Even if you buy a carrier unlocked T-Mobile phone on eBay or Amazon, it will be re-locked if you ever send it to LG for repair or replacement. And T-Mobile will NOT grant unlock in those cases, unless you are a T-Mobile customer in good standing and the phone has been on their network for some time (40 days postpaid or 1 year prepaid).
There is a reason why AT&T and T-Mobile models ("GSM unlocked") are generally cheaper on eBay and elsewhere.
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In the case of AT&T models, it is not a glitch: They are known to only provide updates if you're an AT&T postpaid customer or on one of a few AT&T MVNOs. Strangely, AT&T-owned Cricket isn't one of them (last I heard). AT&T also doesn't publish KDZs, so you cannot update manually. Check the V30, V35 and V40 forums, you'll find lots of threads discussing this.
T-Mobile models generally get OTA updates no matter which network you're on. They also publish KDZs, so you can update manually. Same with Verizon. Sprint doesn't publish KDZs, but I believe their models do receive OTA updates, even on other networks.
While it would seem that T-Mobile models are more attractive because of this, the opposite is generally true, since they are very hard to carrier unlock: They can ONLY be unlocked with T-Mobile's Device Unlock app, NOT with codes from 3rd parties. Even if you buy a carrier unlocked T-Mobile phone on eBay or Amazon, it will be re-locked if you ever send it to LG for repair or replacement. And T-Mobile will NOT grant unlock in those cases, unless you are a T-Mobile customer in good standing and the phone has been on their network for some time (40 days postpaid or 1 year prepaid).
There is a reason why AT&T and T-Mobile models ("GSM unlocked") are generally cheaper on eBay and elsewhere.
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Sprint are the cheapest always
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Sprint are the cheapest always
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When talking used G8 units on eBay, I found that too. But if you're looking for new units (warrantied) and/or outside eBay those "GSM unlocked" models (G820TM and G820UA) seem to dominate and have the lowest prices.
It generally varies with the phone models: In the V30 market the Sprint LS998 has become one of the most attractive among US models (other than the rare open-market US998U and US998R) and thus often they're more expensive. In the V35 market, AT&T models flood the market (V350AWM).
I really don't know what you're doing with your phones but I've been using my G8s since release day and even though it fell hard SEVERAL times the only issue I have is a little deep scratch on the display.
The case it shipped with I only used 50% of the time because I love the glossy, mirror-like finish of the back glass.
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I really don't know what you're doing with your phones but I've been using my G8s since release day and even though it fell hard SEVERAL times the only issue I have is a little deep scratch on the display.
The case it shipped with I only used 50% of the time because I love the glossy, mirror-like finish of the back glass.
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Did you mean to post in this thread, which is about software updates?
I am looking to get this phone and needed some advice. I haven't bought a cellular branded phone for a long while. I usually go with the USA Factory unlocked version. On this phone is the cellular named stamped on the back of the phone? I know the model for the USA Unlocked version is G820QM (with a 7 at the end at times) but it is honestly harder to find. What does everyone recommend on this phone in regards to getting the cellular branded one or should I keep trying to find the USA Unlocked version? What about bloatware with the different cellular branded ones? How is that? Can you get rid of the bloatware? I also like what I call the LG Branded ones as they get the updates faster do they not? Please help me. I am looking for a phone and this one stuck out at me unless someone suggests a different phone with similar specs to this one? Thanks so much! :good:
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I am looking to get this phone and needed some advice. I haven't bought a cellular branded phone for a long while. I usually go with the USA Factory unlocked version. On this phone is the cellular named stamped on the back of the phone? I know the model for the USA Unlocked version is G820QM (with a 7 at the end at times) but it is honestly harder to find. What does everyone recommend on this phone in regards to getting the cellular branded one or should I keep trying to find the USA Unlocked version? What about bloatware with the different cellular branded ones? How is that? Can you get rid of the bloatware? I also like what I call the LG Branded ones as they get the updates faster do they not? Please help me. I am looking for a phone and this one stuck out at me unless someone suggests a different phone with similar specs to this one? Thanks so much! :good:
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Unsure where you're from, but stay away from the AT&T unlocked model (my model G820UM), I'm from the UK and ordered one, big mistake, AT&T does not send any update to their phones if they are not using an AT&T SIM card in the US, some users have been successful in updating they're OS, by just using a AT&T SIM card outside of the US, some haven't and I haven't tried it, because I don't want to waste more money on a SIM card when the results are not 100% guaranteed.
There is no way of cross flashing a different ROM, so you will be stuck without updates, until someone finds a way of cross flashing a ROM from an unlocked model. I'm checking this forum regularly hoping some has found a solution, but nothing so far
If you are in the US and on AT&T then it will fine, bloatware (which is a lot) can be removed/disabled easily
Honestly, for the price I paid (£280), I think the Xiaomi Mi9 would have been a better option, similar specs, updates every 2 months and you're able to unlock bootloader, not the best process to unlock the bootloader, but still possible (just need to wait for permission from Xiaomi which could take a few weeks), you'll be missing out on the best headphone jack, better cameras (not by much) and better battery life, for a similar price I think this is the best deal for snapdragon 855 phone.
If you don't mind paying a bit more and want the same features as the G8, go for the Samsung S10.
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Unsure where you're from, but stay away from the AT&T unlocked model (my model G820UM), I'm from the UK and ordered one, big mistake, AT&T does not send any update to their phones if they are not using an AT&T SIM card in the US, some users have been successful in updating they're OS, by just using a AT&T SIM card outside of the US, some haven't and I haven't tried it, because I don't want to waste more money on a SIM card when the results are not 100% guaranteed.
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Have you tried updating after taking out the SIM card?
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Have you tried updating after taking out the SIM card?
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Yep no luck, I've sold the phone, I was wasting too much time trying to find a solution, so just sold it and claimed my sanity back xD
Going back to the trusty Xperia 5, timely updates and great software and they are going for around £260 so easily recommended.
That's too bad, AT&T must be interfering, because I just purchased an unlocked G8 in Canada, and it updated to 10 over WiFi, before I inserted a SIM from my carrier (Bell Mobility). Phone was not on Bell originally.
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That's too bad, AT&T must be interfering, because I just purchased an unlocked G8 in Canada, and it updated to 10 over WiFi, before I inserted a SIM from my carrier (Bell Mobility). Phone was not on Bell originally.
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Yep, this a AT&T "feature", want updates? Buy at AT&T SIM card and use it in the US, guess they don't want anyone outside the US to use their products, unsure why, but it is what it is...
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Unsure where you're from, but stay away from the AT&T unlocked model (my model G820UM), I'm from the UK and ordered one, big mistake, AT&T does not send any update to their phones if they are not using an AT&T SIM card in the US, some users have been successful in updating they're OS, by just using a AT&T SIM card outside of the US, some haven't and I haven't tried it, because I don't want to waste more money on a SIM card when the results are not 100% guaranteed.
There is no way of cross flashing a different ROM, so you will be stuck without updates, until someone finds a way of cross flashing a ROM from an unlocked model. I'm checking this forum regularly hoping some has found a solution, but nothing so far
If you are in the US and on AT&T then it will fine, bloatware (which is a lot) can be removed/disabled easily
Honestly, for the price I paid (£280), I think the Xiaomi Mi9 would have been a better option, similar specs, updates every 2 months and you're able to unlock bootloader, not the best process to unlock the bootloader, but still possible (just need to wait for permission from Xiaomi which could take a few weeks), you'll be missing out on the best headphone jack, better cameras (not by much) and better battery life, for a similar price I think this is the best deal for snapdragon 855 phone.
If you don't mind paying a bit more and want the same features as the G8, go for the Samsung S10.
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Is 10 really that big a deal from 9? I have 9 on my phone i could care less if it gets 10 and I am pretty sure it wont , lol
I feel like if we have temp root then it's only a matter of time before we get TWRP and roms. I just picked up an AT&T model for $178. Not sure if it's unlocked, but fairly easy through AT&T. Just worried if we have an exploit, updating to 10 might invalidate it.
I come from PS3/xbox 360 hacking, haha.
Like many others I am not sure when I'll even get it. Ordered it 5 pm ET on 19th. No update. Doubt I'll get it anytime soon. And obviously need a phone kinda now.
What are the options for a quality flagship? As far as I can see
Mi 11 ultra
S21 ultra
One plus 9 pro
Anything I am missing?
For the above the way I see it next gen is in a few months but I obviously can't wait.
Thanks in advance for any help. Appreciate it.
I've been trying to find a manufacturer to stick with after bouncing around a lot over the years. I was hoping that Google would be it with the new devices. Not quite sure on that. If I return this, I'm sticking with Samsung. I'm on Verizon, so most of the alternative devices (Xiaomi and the likes) are a no go.
My only issues with Samsung is they stick ads in everything and they have their separate store for updating some of their apps. They need to remove both of those.
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I've been trying to find a manufacturer to stick with after bouncing around a lot over the years. I was hoping that Google would be it with the new devices. Not quite sure on that. If I return this, I'm sticking with Samsung. I'm on Verizon, so most of the alternative devices (Xiaomi and the likes) are a no go.
My only issues with Samsung is they stick ads in everything and they have their separate store for updating some of their apps. They need to remove both of those.
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Didn't realize Xiaomi and the rest are no good with Verizon? Are they ok with ATT or T Mobile?
Yes. They work much better there. It mostly has to do with GMA and CDMA frequencies. AT&T and T-Mobile use GMA while Sprint and Verizon heavily rely on CDMA, which I guess is slowly changing. Verizon also likes to heavily limit what devices they allow on their network.
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Didn't realize Xiaomi and the rest are no good with Verizon? Are they ok with ATT or T Mobile?
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Xiaomi has next to zero compatible US bands. You'll have an awful time on T-Mobile, and I believe the same on AT&T.
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My only issues with Samsung is they stick ads in everything ... They need to remove both of those.
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They just removed that.
Nice. Now they just need to dump their store and go strictly Play Store.
I mean, I agree, but it's not a huge deal. It auto-updates just like the play store does. Worst case scenario you check it once a month after the software update. /shrug
If I was ABSOLUTELY going to get a phone now, and I wasn't getting a pixel, I'd get a Oneplus 9 Pro. It's actually a great device, it just has **** software. Root it, and put a pixel experience ROM on it, and it's damn near identical to the 6 Pro. I actually think I like the hardware/feel of the 9 Pro better, especially in the pine green color.
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Like many others I am not sure when I'll even get it. Ordered it 5 pm ET on 19th. No update. Doubt I'll get it anytime soon. And obviously need a phone kinda now.
What are the options for a quality flagship? As far as I can see
Mi 11 ultra
S21 ultra
One plus 9 pro
Anything I am missing?
For the above the way I see it next gen is in a few months but I obviously can't wait.
Thanks in advance for any help. Appreciate it.
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looked at the MI11 Ultra just can't find anywhere to buy one
vivo x70 pro and pro plus are S tier phones
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I've been trying to find a manufacturer to stick with after bouncing around a lot over the years. I was hoping that Google would be it with the new devices. Not quite sure on that. If I return this, I'm sticking with Samsung. I'm on Verizon, so most of the alternative devices (Xiaomi and the likes) are a no go.
My only issues with Samsung is they stick ads in everything and they have their separate store for updating some of their apps. They need to remove both of those.
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I was like you ,was always a HTC fan ......then they went off the boil over from, them to the essential phone ,which was awesome and massively under rated ,when they didn't survive I moved to the one plus 6t loved it and moved to the one plus 8 pro .....but they seem to be going away from op attraction now ,so now the pixel 6 pro
From a op only things I miss are warp charge alert slider ......unless your a i sheep or Samsunh fan boy then I think it's always going to be jumping to what's best at the time
I did love OnePlus, but they're utterly crappy camera (in the past) had me move away from them. I hear they've greatly improved that. At the end of the day, Samsung probably offers the best all around package with the least agitations for me, currently. They've made great strides in their UI, bloat, and ad invasiveness. They still have a long way to go, though.
I'll hold on to this P6P for a week or so and put it though the ringer. If it doesn't smooth out, I'll just use my 4A 5G until the new line of Samsung's roll out as I've already sold both my S21 and S21+ to family.
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Yes. They work much better there. It mostly has to do with GMA and CDMA frequencies. AT&T and T-Mobile use GMA while Sprint and Verizon heavily rely on CDMA, which I guess is slowly changing. Verizon also likes to heavily limit what devices they allow on their network.
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To be a little more clear, the issue comes down to frequencies rather than technology right now. With LTE, all U.S. carriers are using the same standard that the rest of the world uses. Same with 5G. Verizon and Sprint's (now T-Mobile's) CDMA networks will be shut down next year. While Verizon has some limitations on devices on their network, AT&T has actually become far more restrictive.
The real issue is the frequency bands that the carriers use for LTE and 5G. For example, T-Mobile has nationwide LTE and 5G coverage using band 71, but almost no other carriers in the world use it, which means that most phones sold in Europe and Asia won't work on one of T-Mobile's primary bands and T-Mobile customers may not get service without it. Verizon and AT&T just picked up a bunch of C-band spectrum that T-Mobile and much of the world aren't using for 5G. They also have mmWave 5G using bands that aren't widely used outside the U.S. right now as well. Though mmWave is only deployed in a small number of high-density urban areas.
One of the great things about the P6P is that the U.S. model has basically all of the frequencies used in the U.S. and most other countries, including mmWave.
In terms of phones, if you want compatibility with U.S. carriers (particularly T-Mobile on band 71), flagship specs, and the ability to unlock a bootloader and root, you have very few options right now. OnePlus and Google are the big ones, as Samsung locks their bootloaders for models with U.S. frequencies. Asus, Motorola, and Sony have a couple phones that will work as well. This site is a good resource for phones that work with T-Mobile (and often Verizon and AT&T too).
Wow, thank you. Way more informative than my post.
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vivo x70 pro and pro plus are S tier phones
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For sure a good option but I wonder how compatible it is with Verizon or ATT. And I don't think there is a global version available.
Shipping update says I will get it today. Somehow I doubt that but will see. May not get the alternatives but we shall see.
LOL what a question to ask on the 6 Pro forums
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LOL what a question to ask on the 6 Pro forums
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Why not? If it looked like it was getting delayed for weeks what can one do?
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Why not? If it looked like it was getting delayed for weeks what can one do?
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Well if I have to explain it to you its like going into a car showroom and asking them what's the best alternative to their motors
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Well if I have to explain it to you its like going into a car showroom and asking them what's the best alternative to their motors
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We can agree to disagree. There are no salespeople in this forum. And as you can see people have been more than happy to help.