http://www.androidpolice.com/2018/0...lg-v30-674-99-150-off-bh-no-tax-except-ny-nj/
Wow.
But ignore the misinformation in the article about it not being unlocked. The writer says you need the LG V30+ to be "unlocked". Yet, their screenshot even shows the wording that the B&H Photo LG V30 is carrier unlocked. And LG bootloader unlock is coming soon, for both the V30 and V30+. But then a lot of these tech writers are totally ignorant.
Hopefully b and h photo will also offer that 150 off on the v30+ once they realize they sold like 3 of them
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Hopefully b and h photo will also offer that 150 off on the v30+ once they realize they sold like 3 of them
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I bought one of their V30+. It was my 2nd LG device purchase, to get the $400 rebate card. So, my average price was $665 for the two phones.
But now that the time limit has almost passed to fulfill that promotion (45 days from December 2), yeah a discount would be nice.
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Wow.
But ignore the misinformation in the article about it not being unlocked. The writer says you need the LG V30+ to be "unlocked". Yet, their screenshot even shows the wording that the B&H Photo LG V30 is carrier unlocked. And LG bootloader unlock is coming soon, for both the V30 and V30+. But then a lot of these tech writers are totally ignorant.
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Doesn't say it's not unlocked, says you need to buy v30+ for an unlocked unit in black
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Doesn't say it's not unlocked, says you need to buy v30+ for an unlocked unit in black
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YES, it did. My comments made them correct it. Here's the direct quote from the original article:
"you'll need to buy the not-discounted $929.99 V30+ to get unlocked".
They've since edited the article, so you now see what the writer Richard Gao says he meant to say -- not what he actually wrote originally. I pointed out their error in the comments at the bottom of the article, with that direct quote.
In fact below my comments, the writer Richard Gao says he's now changed it --- due to my comments:
That was poor wording on my part. I meant to say that you'd have to buy the V30+ to get an unlocked model in black
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The V30+ on Amazon is down to $903, despite still being out of stock. Not a significant change but hope it will drop more soon.
http://a.co/hxi1h39
yeah I pulled the trigger and bought the V30 from B&H, should be here tomorrow, my essential phone is going back to Best buy tomorrow.
You will like this phone. Good move. I'm waiting for the v30 plus to ha e a realistic price
I've been waiting on this phone to go down in price. I killed my Moto x pure trying to change the battery. Twelve hours before it was discounted I bought a V30 off eBay and paid more than I should've. I wasn't even thinking about the warranty. Just my luck.
The V30+ just dropped down to $775 on B&H.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1379518-REG/lg_lgus998u_a1usbk_v30_unlocked_phone_black.html
Nice find! Still having a hard time pulling the trigger. Even though I believe this is the best phone out, I doubt it will have any developer support... I can't believe lg won't even allow the boot loader to be unlocked yet. Come on!
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Nice find! Still having a hard time pulling the trigger. Even though I believe this is the best phone out, I doubt it will have any developer support... I can't believe lg won't even allow the boot loader to be unlocked yet. Come on!
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That is frustrating. It shouldn't take that long.
Yes, I know LG waited six weeks for the US997 G6 (mid May, to very end of June), but that was ridiculous. Still, after that was dev support.
By the way, January 15 will be six weeks mark for our open market US998 V30. Let's hope the V30+ release at end of December didn't reset the timer?
Yet, Europe H930 was only three weeks after release.
LG doesn't seem to understand their phones would be more popular if they preemptively put them on their Bootloader Unlock list. So you would know for sure when the phone have out, you could immediately root it.
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Nice find! Still having a hard time pulling the trigger. Even though I believe this is the best phone out, I doubt it will have any developer support... I can't believe lg won't even allow the boot loader to be unlocked yet. Come on!
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I'm beginning to feel the same way. Looking like oneplus will own the dev community from here on out. Even at the discounted price, it's hard to say that the v30 is $200+ more of a phone than the 5t is especially if you are into roms and such. If you want the latest hardware with unlockable bootloaders out of the gate, I'm not sure where else to look. For me personally, Id like external sd, a solid camera, AOSP roms and ip67/68. Difficult to find nowadays. Anyone?
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I'm beginning to feel the same way. Looking like oneplus will own the dev community from here on out. Even at the discounted price, it's hard to say that the v30 is $200+ more of a phone than the 5t is especially if you are into roms and such.
If you want the latest hardware with unlockable bootloaders out of the gate, I'm not sure where else to look. For me personally, Id like external sd, a solid camera, AOSP roms and ip67/68. Difficult to find nowadays. Anyone?
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ROMs can't add QHD, Qi wireless charging, and IP68 rating. Until OnePlus releases a true premium phone, I can't stand them. Even the Nexus phones were the first or some of the first to have 1080p and then 1440p QHD as well as Qi wireless charging. The people who say the Nexus phones didn't have the best specs aren't talking about hardware specs or features. Yeah, Google skimped on battery and their cameras weren't FANTASTIC, but the hardware specs and features were always cutting edge. So, NO OnePlus is not a "Nexus" replacement. To me, they are hype masters and pretenders.
The only other option is the Exynos Samsung variants which have OEM bootloader unlock out of the gate OR the Hong Kong Snapdragon Samsung variants which have OEM bootloader unlock. Hong Kong and mainland China Galaxy Snapdragon 835 S8/S8+ have had TWRP and root since last July, because they have simple OEM bootloader unlock. And they have all the U.S. carrier bands. Great to import via eBay. But I'm not a huge Samsung fan.
Now whether there are any custom ROMs for the Snapdragon 835 bootloader unlocked Hong Kong/mainland China variants, I do not know. I do know there are lots for the Exynos bootloader unlocked variants.
As soon as LG gets off their butt and puts the US998 on the bootloader unlock list you will see dev interest, just like the LG G6 starting in last July.
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ROMs can't add QHD, Qi wireless charging, and IP68 rating. Until OnePlus releases a true premium phone, I can't stand them. Even the Nexus phones were the first or some of the first to have 1080p and then 1440p QHD as well as Qi wireless charging. The people who say the Nexus phones didn't have the best specs aren't talking about hardware specs or features. Yeah, Google skimped on battery and their cameras weren't FANTASTIC, but the hardware specs and features were always cutting edge. So, NO OnePlus is not a "Nexus" replacement. To me, they are hype masters and pretenders.
The only other option is the Exynos Samsung variants which have OEM bootloader unlock out of the gate OR the Hong Kong Snapdragon Samsung variants which have OEM bootloader unlock. Hong Kong and mainland China Galaxy Snapdragon 835 S8/S8+ have had TWRP and root since last July, because they have simple OEM bootloader unlock. And they have all the U.S. carrier bands. Great to import via eBay. But I'm not a huge Samsung fan.
Now whether there are any custom ROMs for the Snapdragon 835 bootloader unlocked Hong Kong/mainland China variants, I do not know. I do know there are lots for the Exynos bootloader unlocked variants.
As soon as LG gets off their butt and puts the US998 on the bootloader unlock list you will see dev interest, just like the LG G6 starting in last July.
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I hope you are right and I'll be on board. I'm never going to buy a device until I see the proof in the pudding, though. Even if you look at the most popular device threads on xda, I think my statement above about oneplus has merit. We don't have to agree with what the masses want, but ultimately popularity will dictate the direction things will go for the development community.
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I hope you are right and I'll be on board. I'm never going to buy a device until I see the proof in the pudding, though. Even if you look at the most popular device threads on xda, I think my statement above about oneplus has merit. We don't have to agree with what the masses want, but ultimately popularity will dictate the direction things will go for the development community.
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I normally wait until I can root from the first day I own the phone, but this time I had to go ahead and buy... but knowing LG would/should soon place the open market LG US998 on the LG Developer Bootloader Unlock list.
My rants against OnePlus are the same as against last year's Essential. They both pretend to be premium phones, but really are not. They're just missing too much stuff. There's also a whole cadre of Chinese 1080p slabs that fit that category too.
The only real competition LG V30 has is the Samsung Note 8. Maybe the Pixel 2 XL if you lower your standards a little. Yes, for dev work, the Pixel 2 XL has an advantage... But just no Qi wireless charging (one of my requirements) nor headset jack.
(I bet Google adds Qi wireless charging back for the 2018 Pixels, now that Apple has added it.)
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I normally wait until I can root from the first day I own the phone, but this time I had to go ahead and buy... but knowing LG would/should soon place the open market LG US998 on the LG Developer Bootloader Unlock list.
My rants against OnePlus are the same as against last year's Essential. They both pretend to be premium phones but really are not. They're just missing too much stuff. There's also a whole cadre of Chinese 1080p slabs that fit that category too.
The only real competition V30 has is the Samsung Note 8. Maybe the Pixel 2 XL if you lower your standards a little. For dev work, the Pixel 2 XL has an advantage... But just no Qi wireless charging (one of my requirements) nor headset jack.
(I bet Google adds Qi wireless charging back for the 2018 Pixels, now that Apple has added it.)
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It's the 'would/should' thing I'm worried about. Plus I'm willing to wait for the prices to fall even farther (unless we get unlocked bootloaders soon) as we get into Snapdragon 845 device territory. After all SD 835 is soooooo last year . I get the suspicion that the v30 isn't selling well at all as evidenced by the b+h sales as well as carrier BOGO offers. We usually only see BOGO on devices that sell crazy volume or inventory they are trying to clear. The v30 is likely the latter.
Either way, I spend way too much time refreshing these xda v30 threads and wait impatiently for good news sooner than later.
This of course is completely anecdotal but after I talked up the V30 at work, three iPhone users switched over to the V30 (they purchased from their respective carriers) and they all love it. It could be true it isn't selling that well but LG isn't and hasn't ever really been a market leader, they always seem to discount phones quickly, have promos, etc. In any case, I'm confident in ChazzMatt's prediction of the phone being on the bootloader unlock list pretty soon and I don't think there is a better phone out there for my needs. It's not perfect but it's enough for me.
I am an idiot... I just pulled the trigger on the v30+.
In my dream it will be rooted with Resurrection remix installed. Don't know why I did this cause the chance of that are so slim...
This phone is amazing though!
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I have no idea why anyone on xda site or other development places would by snapdragon. I just bought s8 and learned that they are no cuctom roms no kernels since bootloader for north america is locked due to corporate greed and lack of right regulation other than self lobbing corruption. (normal gov should slap companies for locking it should be prohibited) and i feel that i was spat in the face. Same way just can buy bloody snobbish applephone and what's the difference. Don't buy snaprdagon, buy from another location for exynos or buy another phone. Don't let them spit in your face. Coz they will continue to do so.
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I have no idea why anyone on xda site or other development places would by snapdragon. I just bought s8 and learned that they are no cuctom roms no kernels since bootloader for north america is locked due to corporate greed and lack of right regulation other than self lobbing corruption. (normal gov should slap companies for locking it should be prohibited) and i feel that i was spat in the face. Same way just can buy bloody snobbish applephone and what's the difference. Don't buy snaprdagon, buy from another location for exynos or buy another phone. Don't let them spit in your face. Coz they will continue to do so.
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Not that i disagree with you but you said you dont understand why anyone would buy a snapdragon but you yourself bought one lol?
sent from my Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
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Not that i disagree with you but you said you dont understand why anyone would buy a snapdragon but you yourself bought one lol?
sent from my Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
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I assumed that it was for all s8's. that there will be at least a few for snapdragons and didn't check well before i buy, i own s7e exynos and was having much confidence in samsung, but they are as a leaf that bends to every wind that blows on them. I also have tab s2 810. exynos while only snapdragon t813 version of it gets new development only. unpredictable. I would have bout snapdragon only if it was dirt cheap compared to exynos dirt cheap.
I was eyeing unlocked s9 for a while but then i realized if i can't get custom rom in a year after warranty ends and i can't take full control of my phone. Scumsung will not keep updating this phone indefinitely. i can't put latest lineage on it, so WTF am i going to do with it. I already have one motorola rooted lineage phone that i can probably put pie based lineage on it when it becomes available. Excellent support here. My last scumsung phone was galaxy s3 which i rooted and custom rommed. No problems. I must've gone throught 7-8 verizon locked bootloader phones which i could not root and had to get rid of. This is seriously insane. I can't understand why cripple such flagship in us&a. Of course i won't touch s9 or any future scumsung phone which will have permanently locked bl. Same for verizon or any others. Motorola, Huawei don't cripple their phones. Will be looking into those.
I was planing on buying an unlocked US998 LG V30 and switching to Tmobile but have an offer for a free V30 and a huge discount to stay on Verizon. I have always rooted my phones and still running a Droid turbo with TWRP and RR custom ROM. What do I need to know or what does Verizon do to screw up a nice V30 and it the Verizon version rootable ? Like I said I keep my phones until they are worth zero and not sure what Verizon does to current hardware if anything. The V30 looks like a solid phone and hoping it lasts as long as my droid with the dying battery.
You can convert it to us998. I would take the offer
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I was planing on buying an unlocked US998 LG V30 and switching to Tmobile but have an offer for a free V30 and a huge discount to stay on Verizon. I have always rooted my phones and still running a Droid turbo with TWRP and RR custom ROM. What do I need to know or what does Verizon do to screw up a nice V30 and it the Verizon version rootable ? Like I said I keep my phones until they are worth zero and not sure what Verizon does to current hardware if anything. The V30 looks like a solid phone and hoping it lasts as long as my droid with the dying battery.
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You would take the phone, temporarily convert it to US998 to bootloader unlock and root. Then you could flash back to VS996 while keeping unlocked bootloader and TWRP for root.
Its too good a deal to pass up so I will get it. Any suggested tweaks or mods for the V30 out of the box?
I have some reading to do to get up to speed on the V30 and development options.
Nothing's free. Is it a bill credits deal?
You can find v30 pretty cheap now a days. Much cheaper in long run vs 24 months of credits.
Corporate account perk / promo or whatever they want to call it.
Verizon is typically retail + for regular accounts but wheel and deal like car dealers on corporate accounts.
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Its too good a deal to pass up so I will get it. Any suggested tweaks or mods for the V30 out of the box?
I have some reading to do to get up to speed on the V30 and development options.
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You mean besides using Nova launcher, etc?
Well you want to turn on Always on Display and there's a bunch of personalized settings in Settings menu. Don't overlook the submenus in those settings with the "..." indicator.
But for real tweaks or mods you need to go ahead and root it. Like this...
Whiskeyomega's V30 Sound Mods
He's also the developer of Boombox ROM.
Phone should be here tomorrow along with an armor case.
Hopefully no surprises getting it active and updated.
Thanks for the suggestions and replies.
Not sure which I prefer first anymore but anyone care to guess which will happen first?
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Not sure which I prefer first anymore but anyone care to guess which will happen first?
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Its LG something will happen only if they decide it
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Not sure which I prefer first anymore but anyone care to guess which will happen first?
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They will never release bootloader unlock code for any US carrier based model.. You can bet on that.
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They will never release bootloader unlock code for any US carrier based model.. You can bet on that.
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I'm no fan of LG and I can appreciate your dissatisfaction based on your experiences trying to unlock your G7 (Sprint) however LG released bootloader unlock codes for the G6 USA carrier free model somewhere around this time last year. It's anyone's guess what they will do going forward.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/how-to/official-lg-g6-bootloader-unlock-t3614719
Currently supported devices which can be unlocked:
https://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev
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I'm no fan of LG and I can appreciate your dissatisfaction based on your experiences trying to unlock your G7 (Sprint) however LG released bootloader unlock codes for the G6 USA carrier free model somewhere around this time last year. It's anyone's guess what they will do going forward.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/how-to/official-lg-g6-bootloader-unlock-t3614719
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https://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev
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That's great for those who have it.. But I still believe for any phone, Samsung, LG, Google, if it is for a carrier then bootloader unlock his highly doubtful. I wish they never bowed to the carriers in the first place.. They should have said NO period.. But it is what it is...
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That's great for those who have it.. But I still believe for any phone, Samsung, LG, Google, if it is for a carrier then bootloader unlock his highly doubtful. I wish they never bowed to the carriers in the first place.. They should have said NO period.. But it is what it is...
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Agree totally.
Even though I use Mint Mobile (US-based prepaid plan that uses the T-Mobile network), I picked up a 2nd-hand G710ULM (vs G710TM) in hopes that LG would offer an unlocked bootloader code at some point (I like to use my phones for 4+ years and after ~2 all phones seem to get sluggish given dev targets if you stay on stock).
That being said I hope and am betting on Pie getting pushed out first (hopefully before Q official release) because I think it'd benefit the most amount of users (Pie really does have some unique and useful features, even though I've seen others say that they are purely gimmicks).
I went from flip-phone, to HTC Incredible (great phone with a great hacking community), to hand-me-down Samsung G3 (same, although Knox sux), and finally a 2nd-hand LG G7 (unaware of LG's history and actually believing their "Quick Update Program" or whatever they called it). Just because I'm able, doesn't mean I'm willing to pay ~$1,000 USD just to buy an unlocked Pixel device. Maybe some more feature-rich Android One entries will join the bunch. I can see how/why people get into the Apple ecosystem x.x
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Even though I use Mint Mobile (US-based prepaid plan that uses the T-Mobile network), I picked up a 2nd-hand G710ULM (vs G710TM) in hopes that LG would offer an unlocked bootloader code at some point (I like to use my phones for 4+ years and after ~2 all phones seem to get sluggish given dev targets if you stay on stock).
That being said I hope and am betting on Pie getting pushed out first (hopefully before Q official release) because I think it'd benefit the most amount of users (Pie really does have some unique and useful features, even though I've seen others say that they are purely gimmicks).
I went from flip-phone, to HTC Incredible (great phone with a great hacking community), to hand-me-down Samsung G3 (same, although Knox sux), and finally a 2nd-hand LG G7 (unaware of LG's history and actually believing their "Quick Update Program" or whatever they called it). Just because I'm able, doesn't mean I'm willing to pay ~$1,000 USD just to buy an unlocked Pixel device. Maybe some more feature-rich Android One entries will join the bunch. I can see how/why people get into the Apple ecosystem x.x
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I have a pixel 3a XL now, which is on Sprint.. I do not care about the unlock status of this phone.. Reason. It has every thing I want, a good camera, and absolutely no bloat of any kind...
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I have a pixel 3a XL now, which is on Sprint.. I do not care about the unlock status of this phone.. Reason. It has every thing I want, a good camera, and absolutely no bloat of any kind...
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Yeah, the reviews make it look like my ideal phone; I hope Google keeps making a midtier phone like the 3a as they release new lines. 3a/3a XL even reintroduced a standard headphone jack
So I'm from Europe and bought the G8 from eBay (US seller). It hasn't arrived yet, but I'd rather know now. It says it's GSM unlocked and it should work with my carrier, so no problem there apparently.
But regarding software updates, will I get OTA updates even when I'm using a completely different carrier? I'm not gonna be using AT&T, T-Mobile or Sprint SIM card. I will be using an European SIM. so will I still receive over-the-air updates normally or will I have to flash a different KDZ? Thanks in advance for your replies.
Also I must warn people about the G8S. I think everyone knows by now it's the crappier version of the G8. I've had it for a while but unfortunately I dropped it once and now there's a huge crack on the back. The fall also appeared to have affected the wide angle camera which is unusable now (there's some white dots all over when taking pictures or filming videos). It's a VERY fragile phone so just think twice and perhaps consider buying the G8 (which has the MIL-STD-810G rating) instead, from sellers on Ebay that ship internationally.
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So I'm from Europe and bought the G8 from eBay (US seller). It hasn't arrived yet, but I'd rather know now. It says it's GSM unlocked and it should work with my carrier, so no problem there apparently.
But regarding software updates, will I get OTA updates even when I'm using a completely different carrier? I'm not gonna be using AT&T, T-Mobile or Sprint SIM card. I will be using an European SIM. so will I still receive over-the-air updates normally or will I have to flash a different KDZ? Thanks in advance for your replies.
Also I must warn people about the G8S. I think everyone knows by now it's the crappier version of the G8. I've had it for a while but unfortunately I dropped it once and now there's a huge crack on the back. The fall also appeared to have affected the wide angle camera which is unusable now (there's some white dots all over when taking pictures or filming videos). It's a VERY fragile phone so just think twice and perhaps consider buying the G8 (which has the MIL-STD-810G rating) instead, from sellers on Ebay that ship internationally.
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It should recieve otas, but for some reason people here have had problems. You probably bought a Sprint phone, and I also bought that and recieved otas while being on a different network. I don't know if being in Europe makes a difference
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So I'm from Europe and bought the G8 from eBay (US seller). It hasn't arrived yet, but I'd rather know now. It says it's GSM unlocked and it should work with my carrier, so no problem there apparently.
But regarding software updates, will I get OTA updates even when I'm using a completely different carrier? I'm not gonna be using AT&T, T-Mobile or Sprint SIM card. I will be using an European SIM. so will I still receive over-the-air updates normally or will I have to flash a different KDZ? Thanks in advance for your replies.
Also I must warn people about the G8S. I think everyone knows by now it's the crappier version of the G8. I've had it for a while but unfortunately I dropped it once and now there's a huge crack on the back. The fall also appeared to have affected the wide angle camera which is unusable now (there's some white dots all over when taking pictures or filming videos). It's a VERY fragile phone so just think twice and perhaps consider buying the G8 (which has the MIL-STD-810G rating) instead, from sellers on Ebay that ship internationally.
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AT&T and Sprint versions won't receive updates
But T-Mobile and Verizon will
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AT&T and Sprint versions won't receive updates
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I presently own a LG v40 ATT and LG G8 T-Mobile my LG v40 never get an ota update but my LG G8 does
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I presently own a LG v40 ATT and LG G8 T-Mobile my LG v40 never get an ota update but my LG G8 does
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Interesting. Thanks for the info.
I have the Sprint version with an AT&T sim and I have received all ota updates so far.
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Interesting. Thanks for the info.
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Yes they should all work. That's just wierd glitches by chance that guy is talking about. I even uninstalled all Sprint stuff and still recieved otas
In the case of AT&T models, it is not a glitch: They are known to only provide updates if you're an AT&T postpaid customer or on one of a few AT&T MVNOs. Strangely, AT&T-owned Cricket isn't one of them (last I heard). AT&T also doesn't publish KDZs, so you cannot update manually. Check the V30, V35 and V40 forums, you'll find lots of threads discussing this.
T-Mobile models generally get OTA updates no matter which network you're on. They also publish KDZs, so you can update manually. Same with Verizon. Sprint doesn't publish KDZs, but I believe their models do receive OTA updates, even on other networks.
While it would seem that T-Mobile models are more attractive because of this, the opposite is generally true, since they are very hard to carrier unlock: They can ONLY be unlocked with T-Mobile's Device Unlock app, NOT with codes from 3rd parties. Even if you buy a carrier unlocked T-Mobile phone on eBay or Amazon, it will be re-locked if you ever send it to LG for repair or replacement. And T-Mobile will NOT grant unlock in those cases, unless you are a T-Mobile customer in good standing and the phone has been on their network for some time (40 days postpaid or 1 year prepaid).
There is a reason why AT&T and T-Mobile models ("GSM unlocked") are generally cheaper on eBay and elsewhere.
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In the case of AT&T models, it is not a glitch: They are known to only provide updates if you're an AT&T postpaid customer or on one of a few AT&T MVNOs. Strangely, AT&T-owned Cricket isn't one of them (last I heard). AT&T also doesn't publish KDZs, so you cannot update manually. Check the V30, V35 and V40 forums, you'll find lots of threads discussing this.
T-Mobile models generally get OTA updates no matter which network you're on. They also publish KDZs, so you can update manually. Same with Verizon. Sprint doesn't publish KDZs, but I believe their models do receive OTA updates, even on other networks.
While it would seem that T-Mobile models are more attractive because of this, the opposite is generally true, since they are very hard to carrier unlock: They can ONLY be unlocked with T-Mobile's Device Unlock app, NOT with codes from 3rd parties. Even if you buy a carrier unlocked T-Mobile phone on eBay or Amazon, it will be re-locked if you ever send it to LG for repair or replacement. And T-Mobile will NOT grant unlock in those cases, unless you are a T-Mobile customer in good standing and the phone has been on their network for some time (40 days postpaid or 1 year prepaid).
There is a reason why AT&T and T-Mobile models ("GSM unlocked") are generally cheaper on eBay and elsewhere.
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When talking used G8 units on eBay, I found that too. But if you're looking for new units (warrantied) and/or outside eBay those "GSM unlocked" models (G820TM and G820UA) seem to dominate and have the lowest prices.
It generally varies with the phone models: In the V30 market the Sprint LS998 has become one of the most attractive among US models (other than the rare open-market US998U and US998R) and thus often they're more expensive. In the V35 market, AT&T models flood the market (V350AWM).
I really don't know what you're doing with your phones but I've been using my G8s since release day and even though it fell hard SEVERAL times the only issue I have is a little deep scratch on the display.
The case it shipped with I only used 50% of the time because I love the glossy, mirror-like finish of the back glass.
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I really don't know what you're doing with your phones but I've been using my G8s since release day and even though it fell hard SEVERAL times the only issue I have is a little deep scratch on the display.
The case it shipped with I only used 50% of the time because I love the glossy, mirror-like finish of the back glass.
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Did you mean to post in this thread, which is about software updates?
I think I am reading it correctly that the unlocked model will not support Verizon mmwave but it should work fine with their other 5g services. I'm not near any of the large cities that use that anyway, so it is no big deal. I am tired of having a locked phone. I haven't kept up with everything in a few years. Can the bootloaders be unlocked and the device be rooted on the unlocked versions? Sorry it is a dumb question but I have been on Verizon Samsung phones for a few years.
We really don't know officially yet, since it has a new CPU chip set until we get our hands on it....
But, usually Google wouldn't block Unlocking the BL.
I'll let you know, I'm kind of perpetually stuck ordering from Verizon because I get so many device dollars from my Fios account. Not really too concerned about unlocking but I'll check for you.
Oaklands said:
I think I am reading it correctly that the unlocked model will not support Verizon mmwave but it should work fine with their other 5g services. I'm not near any of the large cities that use that anyway, so it is no big deal. I am tired of having a locked phone. I haven't kept up with everything in a few years. Can the bootloaders be unlocked and the device be rooted on the unlocked versions? Sorry it is a dumb question but I have been on Verizon Samsung phones for a few years.
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That's impossible. There won't be a Google device that doesn't support mmWave sold in the US. As for bootloader unlockable as long as you don't get the Verizon model from Google you can unlock it. Not sure what 3rd party retailers are doing. Stepping a little out on a limb here but I'll stick by it unless proven otherwise.
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That's impossible. There won't be a Google device that doesn't support mmWave sold in the US. As for bootloader unlockable as long as you don't get the Verizon model from Google you can unlock it. Not sure what 3rd party retailers are doing. Stepping a little out on a limb here but I'll stick by it unless proven otherwise.
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From Google store: Unlocked Pixel is not compatible with millimeter wave (mmWave) networks. See g.co/pixel/networkinfo.
I don't understand. In the chart it says it does work.
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That's impossible. There won't be a Google device that doesn't support mmWave sold in the US. As for bootloader unlockable as long as you don't get the Verizon model from Google you can unlock it. Not sure what 3rd party retailers are doing. Stepping a little out on a limb here but I'll stick by it unless proven otherwise.
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on the google site there is an option for the verizon specific one. maybe they did that because verizon will only let their mmwave work on the pixel if it has a locked bootloader? wouldnt be out of the realm for verizon. the unlocked option on google site says works with the 3 major carriers.
freebee269 said:
on the google site there is an option for the verizon specific one. maybe they did that because verizon will only let their mmwave work on the pixel if it has a locked bootloader? wouldnt be out of the realm for verizon. the unlocked option on google site says works with the 3 major carriers.
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No, that is not the case. Google sells the Verizon model for some reason unbeknownst to me but likely financial. Last year for the Pixel 5 they did the same thing. The Verizon model has different promos attached and you can buy it on your Verizon account without further credit checks and over a period of 24 months rolled into your monthly bill. But you cannot unlock the bootloader in that version, on the Fi and Unlocked version you can.
As for mmWave, every single Pixel device sold in the US is capable. Naturally it depends if your carrier supports it but if they do then you have it. The unlocked P6, or any P6 sold in the states will work on 8 carriers that support mmWave according to what I'm seeing. The locked bootloader on the Verizon device sold by Google is a horse of another color and has nothing to do with 5G capabilities. I am on Verizon but have bought the last 4 Pixels from Google and they all work as if I bought them directly from Verizon. Well... other than the fact I can bl unlock them and the 3a eSim fiasco on the VZW model.
I have read 5 websites including Google and mass confusion reigns. So I might be wrong and I might be right. Here's a link to the one that at least says no one knows wtf is going on. I still think all US versions will be mmWave capable but then there is the sub 5g and UWB thrown into the mix. What a mess. Suffice it to say I will never buy a Verizon branded device so they better sort this out before they ship.
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I have read 5 websites including Google and mass confusion reigns. So I might be wrong and I might be right. Here's a link to the one that at least says no one knows wtf is going on. I still think all US versions will be mmWave capable but then there is the sub 5g and UWB thrown into the mix. What a mess. Suffice it to say I will never buy a Verizon branded device so they better sort this out before they ship.
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Damn I pre-ordered from their website and bought the unlocked version. From my research, it looks like phones bought unlocked from Google will be blocked from using network specific mmWave. If this is the case, I am returning this ****. Really, Google just had to find a way to fudge up a good phone.
From what I understand:
All Pixel 6 Pro in the US support Sub6 + mmWave, (Whether a carrier allows access on unlocked models is unclear)
Regular Pixel 6 is Sub6 Only except for the Verizon variant which adds mmWave.
This has never been an issue on Unlocked Samsung models. Each variant has a different SKU and it'd be interesting to find out if it's a different modem entirely or just software optimizations.
My only concern with the Verizon version is that it may not be bootloader unlockable.
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Damn I pre-ordered from their website and bought the unlocked version. From my research, it looks like phones bought unlocked from Google will be blocked from using network specific mmWave. If this is the case, I am returning this ****. Really, Google just had to find a way to fudge up a good phone.
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Think it depends on the carrier really. I know this is Samsung and not Google but my unlocked Note 20 Ultra 5G is able to use Verizon mmWave. I used it on Fremont Street in Vegas the speed was insane. I don't see why Verizon would block the Pixel 6 if other unlocked phones can use it but I guess these things can happen. In my case I don't really live anywhere near any mmWave areas so it doesn't matter to me as much if I can't use it.
This is what I am seeing on the google store.
3See g.co/pixel/specs for device configuration and capability. Contact carrier for details. 5G service is carrier dependent. Unlocked Pixel is not compatible with millimeter wave (mmWave) networks. See g.co/pixel/networkinfo.
What a pain. Couldn't get through yesterday to order and out of stock today. What a bummer.
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What a pain. Couldn't get through yesterday to order and out of stock today. What a bummer.
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Yeah it was an absolute **** show. I was fortunate and got a 512gb after literally 3 hours of non-stop trying. Hope they re-stock soon for you! I've never had issues like this the last few years pre-ordering Samsung devices.
The Verizon Pixel 6 Pro and Unlocked 6 Pro both listed the same supported bands, despite having a different SKU. When Google notes that the Pixel does not support mmWave, I think they're referring to the regular unlocked Pixel 6, not the Pro.
So... do I buy unlocked, which is what I prefer to do, even though I have not unlocked a bootloader in years, or do I buy Verizon, which I must use because of coverage where I live, to ensure compatibility 100%?
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So... do I buy unlocked, which is what I prefer to do, even though I have not unlocked a bootloader in years, or do I buy Verizon, which I must use because of coverage where I live, to ensure compatibility 100%?
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Was the pixel 5 verizon bootloader unlockable?? Maybe someone will have a way to unlock the verizon bootloader in the near future?
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Was the pixel 5 verizon bootloader unlockable?? Maybe someone will have a way to unlock the verizon bootloader in the near future?
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I am just getting the unlocked version. If it is an issue, I may either switch back to AT&T with my microcell (yes, I still have an AT&T microcell because wifi calling sucks) or sell the unlocked and get the Verizon. I used to be big into custom roms and unlocking bootloaders, but things are to the point where the need just is not there anymore on most phones. Except Samsung and all its bloatware. (sorry, I had to get that dig in!)
im unlocking BL .. as soon as the guide is available. then flash Verizon Factory Image. i should be good to go with (mmWave)
Pre ordered unlocked version.
I've been unlocking and modding my phones since the OG Droid. Originally I would flash ROMs all the time, but Android has evolved so much that now I just unlock for dark mode and ad blocking. Now that dark mode is baked in all I need is the ad blocking. I also want to use my banking apps and Google Pay. So, for the first time in many years, I ordered the Verizon model from Google. I'll see if it's unlockable. If it isn't, no big deal. If it is, I might, and I might not.
With the unlocked OnePlus 8 Pro, we never got native Wi-Fi calling working on Verizon, so I don't want to miss out on that again, or any data bands.
I'm amped for the 6 Pro. I'm pretty sure I'll be happy with it. My brother-in-law is one of the heads of Photoshop and AI at Adobe. I'm think he'll be interested in taking a peek at it.