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I got the device mainly becouse I found a good deal it fit my not too high budget for a tablet. I am also a mobile gamer and I thought with its octa cpu it would handle all games perfectly. That does not seem to be the case, on highest grafics setting asphalt 8 runs at <20 fps while my HTC One m7 runs it perfectly. Is there any way to fix that? Also is there any chance of cyanogenmod for this device? I know it's hard for exynos cpus but is there really no way?
IE-coRe said:
I got the device mainly becouse I found a good deal it fit my not too high budget for a tablet. I am also a mobile gamer and I thought with its octa cpu it would handle all games perfectly. That does not seem to be the case, on highest grafics setting asphalt 8 runs at <20 fps while my HTC One m7 runs it perfectly. Is there any way to fix that? Also is there any chance of cyanogenmod for this device? I know it's hard for exynos cpus but is there really no way?
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same here...
I tried asphalt 8 and the FPS was very low... I was very disapointed.
but I'm pretty sure the problem is software related (this game is not optimized for the device), because I installed NFS most wanted and I was blown away with the graphics and smoothness of the game. If you like a good racing game similar (even better in my opinion) to asphalt 8, I highly recommend that you install NFS most wanted.:good:
an update by samsung or gameloft will eventually solve these problems...
pouya67 said:
same here...
I tried asphalt 8 and the FPS was very low... I was very disapointed.
but I'm pretty sure the problem is software related (this game is not optimized for the device), because I installed NFS most wanted and I was blown away with the graphics and smoothness of the game. If you like a good racing game similar (even better in my opinion) to asphalt 8, I highly recommend that you install NFS most wanted.:good:
an update by samsung or gameloft will eventually solve these problems...
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Yeah I also found out the problem must be related to asphalt because other games, even mc and gta sa run very well I will check out need for speed as well then
This is really crazy,
I've compared NOVA3 Free and Asphalt 8 with a Honor 6 and to my surprise, the Honor 6 is more fluent.
The 550ML have some scenes which are slower (for example the long view in the start of Nova3 free)
3Dmar score is 18300 for my 550ML and 13200 for the Honor6, Honor6 is in Full HD.
How is this possible ? The lag on the 550ML is not enormous but still you can observe it.
No applications runnning in the background, no powersave mode enabled, latest update.
Could it be that lollipop is not optimised for games ?
I don't have the games you mention, but I do play a few, namely Traffic Racer, Lane Splitter, Cut the Rope, Angry Birds... and all of these are fantastic on my 550ML.
But I also have Parking Mania installed and it is terrible, the screen rendering as the game scene moves is lagging badly and making it difficult to play. I find it difficult to blame the phone given that some of the other games which work well should be even more demanding on the system.
Could it be that some games just don't run well on Intel Chip? (I'm no expert so tell me if I'm talking crap).
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This is really crazy,
I've compared NOVA3 Free and Asphalt 8 with a Honor 6 and to my surprise, the Honor 6 is more fluent.
The 550ML have some scenes which are slower (for example the long view in the start of Nova3 free)
3Dmar score is 18300 for my 550ML and 13200 for the Honor6, Honor6 is in Full HD.
How is this possible ? The lag on the 550ML is not enormous but still you can observe it.
No applications runnning in the background, no powersave mode enabled, latest update.
Could it be that lollipop is not optimised for games ?
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I don't have the games you mention, but I do play a few, namely Traffic Racer, Lane Splitter, Cut the Rope, Angry Birds... and all of these are fantastic on my 550ML.
But I also have Parking Mania installed and it is terrible, the screen rendering as the game scene moves is lagging badly and making it difficult to play. I find it difficult to blame the phone given that some of the other games which work well should be even more demanding on the system.
Could it be that some games just don't run well on Intel Chip? (I'm no expert so tell me if I'm talking crap).
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I have 551ML and i have tried NOVA 3 freedom edition... Its plays smoothly no lags no frame drops...Graphics are amazing...No problems faced by me in any games yet..I played Nova 3 Freedom edition, Modern Combat 4 Zero Hour, Modern Combat 5...All these games played well without any issues..I have high end variant of zenfone 2 so have enough ram...Maybe Ram is your culprit.. Try closing apps which are not in use and use in-built ram booster
I also noticed some lag on a few games.. Subway Surfers, DomiNations, Simcity are a few examples. Games that aren't at all that demanding, especially Subway, which always ran smoothly on my 1st gen Moto G, without any problems, and on my 550ML it's noticeable some frame drops. Now I don't think this can be RAM problems, considering Moto G has half the ram and never had such drops. Maybe some games aren't optimized for this soc? .. It has to be because, I've tested games that are flat out heavier and don't have this consistent lag..
One thing is for sure, this phone should have more than enough horsepower to run all these games without issues, yet it doesn't.
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I also noticed some lag on a few games.. Subway Surfers, DomiNations, Simcity are a few examples. Games that aren't at all that demanding, especially Subway, which always ran smoothly on my 1st gen Moto G, without any problems, and on my 550ML it's noticeable some frame drops. Now I don't think this can be RAM problems, considering Moto G has half the ram and never had such drops. Maybe some games aren't optimized for this soc? .. It has to be because, I've tested games that are flat out heavier and don't have this consistent lag..
One thing is for sure, this phone should have more than enough horsepower to run all these games without issues, yet it doesn't.
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Or this could be related to lollipop since some games are running low slower on lollipop than on Kitkat, at least it is what i've read.
A bit disappointed this frames drop on the 550ML, when you see the benchmark, you cannot think of having this.
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Or this could be related to lollipop since some games are running low slower on lollipop than on Kitkat, at least it is what i've read.
A bit disappointed this frames drop on the 550ML, when you see the benchmark, you cannot think of having this.
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Lollipop don't make games run slower. They played roughly the same after I updated my Nexus 4 and G2 to Lollipop months ago, and the Nexus 9 didn't display any lag even after I reduced the GPU speed by 50%.
There's likely something problematic with the drivers for the PowerVR, or a general lack of optimization for this Intel chipset. Games that are smooth on an iPhone 5S are sluggish on this phone.
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Lollipop don't make games run slower. They played roughly the same after I updated my Nexus 4 and G2 to Lollipop months ago, and the Nexus 9 didn't display any lag even after I reduced the GPU speed by 50%.
There's likely something problematic with the drivers for the PowerVR, or a general lack of optimization for this Intel chipset. Games that are smooth on an iPhone 5S are sluggish on this phone.
"I'd Totally Hug You, If That Was Something I Did"
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If it is a lack of optimization how am i able to play it smoothly shouldn't my device also lag while playing Nova 3... I didn't notice any lag in any games..I even tried psp emulator and games are working fine
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If it is a lack of optimization how am i able to play it smoothly shouldn't my device also lag while playing Nova 3... I didn't notice any lag in any games..I even tried psp emulator and games are working fine
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When you see this video "www".youtube.com/watch?v=xzcxFMbjlME (Remowe the two "" for the link) Asphalt8 has been way slower on Lollipop than kitkat event if the 3Dmark score is two times lower than the 551ML.
We can ask ourselves if the chipset of 550ML has not a leak of performance instead of the 551.
I have created a ticket also for that issue, we'll see what asus answer me.
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If it is a lack of optimization how am i able to play it smoothly shouldn't my device also lag while playing Nova 3... I didn't notice any lag in any games..I even tried psp emulator and games are working fine
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I don't have Nova 3, so maybe there's something wrong with their device. All the games I have such as Real Racing & Mortal Kombat are fine.
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I don't have Nova 3, so maybe there's something wrong with their device. All the games I have such as Real Racing & Mortal Kombat are fine.
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I don't know but it seems many many people complaining are 550ML users... I hardly saw 551ML users complaining (except for battery drain and network drops)
I also don't believe that it is a RAM issue. I always use the game booster for RAM and start playing with about 1.2GB of RAM free.
I have checked the Google Play feedback on the game that gives me problems (Parking Mania) and nobody complains of the lag. I can't believe that everyone reviewing this game is using a phone with 4GB RAM.
Whatever the issue is, it certainly does not affect all games, so I am tending to think that we should not be blaming Asus for this one.
Tried and tested nova 3..1.5gb file....no lag what so ever...only one I notice my phone got to 45 c when playing this...nah....i go back to fifa 15 ..maybe you got so many files on you phone...i have a 800 ram free when playing nova 3....550ml user here..ww
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Tried and tested nova 3..1.5gb file....no lag what so ever...only one I notice my phone got to 45 c when playing this...nah....i go back to fifa 15 ..maybe you got so many files on you phone...i have a 800 ram free when playing nova 3....550ml user here..ww
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A video is better than a long explination.
Here is a video taken where i can show some latency and frames drop, sorry for the very bad picture quality
link "www66.zippyshare.com/v/ym89Djkd/file.html"
i experiancing a strange problem
none of the gameloft games are not working in my device. and fifa15 too.:angel:
All of the Gameloft games I have tried are working fine. Usually no lag, but frame rate can drop if there is a lot going on.
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Has frame rate improved since last update? Someone on another thread noticed an improvement on a couple of his games.
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Has frame rate improved since last update? Someone on another thread noticed an improvement on a couple of his games.
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I and someone else noticed improvements in a few games so I think the GPU drivers were updated
But I've also noticed that the game I had seen improvement in and only game I had trouble with, The Witcher Battle Arena, that it now spikes CPU usage (usage rises to mid to high 90s) and locks the frequency to the highest step. Not sure if the game is poorly optimized for x86 and/or NDK issues and/or lingering driver issues or what. After a while the phone overheats and throttles.
I have noticed a performance improvement with this procedure :
Go into Settings then Developer Options and check Disable HW Overlays,
i recently bought Asus zenfone 2 ze551ml 4gb variant but i was very disappointing with its performance. i got the phone and it showed me system update 2.19.40 so i updated it and then installed a few games like asphalt 8, nova, mc5, etc. which i though this device would be able to handle pretty well. but to my surprise the these games didn't performed smooth...there weren't any lags but stutters in almost all the games. now i had seen many videos of gaming performance before buying this phone and everywhere it performed up to the mark. now i heard some where that the latest update is causing this. is this true?
is there a solution to this problem?
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i recently bought Asus zenfone 2 ze552ml 2gb variant but i was very disappointing with its performance. i got the phone and it showed me system update 2.19.40 so i updated it and then installed a few games like asphalt 8, nova, mc5, etc. which i though this device would be able to handle pretty well. but to my surprise the these games didn't performed smooth...there weren't any lags but stutters in almost all the games. now i had seen many videos of gaming performance before buying this phone and everywhere it performed up to the mark. now i heard some where that the latest update is causing this. is this true?
is there a solution to this problem?
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The version you are referring to is not the latest update... Asus provided some graphic optimization in some update (i cant recall which update it was) So update your phone to the latest firmware (2.19.40.22) and then check... I am on latest firmware and i have mc4, mc5, nova and they all play fine...smooth no lags no stutters or glitches
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The version you are referring to is not the latest update... Asus provided some graphic optimization in some update (i cant recall which update it was) So update your phone to the latest firmware (2.19.40.22) and then check... I am on latest firmware and i have mc4, mc5, nova and they all play fine...smooth no lags no stutters or glitches
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thank you for the reply sir. yes, i checked, i am on the same firmware as you. the main issue is with asphalt 8. nova and mc5 are still ok, even riptide gp 2 has the same unsmooth game play...there is no lag but it looks like there are heavy frame drops. can you check it with asphalt 8. i am getting an fps of 28 (checked it with gamebench).
Yes, I played mc5 and asphalt 8 and also experienced micro stutter on the 551ml with the newest firmware. Gameplays looked alot smoother on youtube videos.
I tried moving the games to internal memory, but same problem.
Asphalt 8 running as smooth as it can here..
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Asphalt 8 running as smooth as it can here..
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Maybe I got accustomed to 60 fps
But really, can this be a hardware problem?
Exactly, even i am worried if its an hardware issue. Though i got a score of 47k on antutu so i doubt it is. Games like overkill 3 laG like hell. I am worried. Should i get my lhone replaced or what? Can anyone test on gamebench for fps of asphalt 8 who has it running smooth plz. Thank you.
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Exactly, even i am worried if its an hardware issue. Though i got a score of 47k on antutu so i doubt it is. Games like overkill 3 laG like hell. I am worried. Should i get my lhone replaced or what? Can anyone test on gamebench for fps of asphalt 8 who has it running smooth plz. Thank you.
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I just downloaded reptide gp 2 and it's running smooth for now. I'll test the fps using gamebench in a bit.
Can't get gamebench to work. Sorry. :/
No problem. Thanks a lot for the reply though. Do let me know if it works.
Mail me at [email protected].
You may have seen this forum already, but nevertheless..http://www.asus.com/zentalk/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=8531..
I got the zf2 about a week ago, so I'm unable to compare it to the performance before the latest updates.
Recommend using ASUS ZenUI app called ASUS Support. Please go to Apps/ASUS Support/Software/Slow app operation/Please follow 11 troubleshooting methods in this section.
Sincerely,
ASUS_USA
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Recommend using ASUS ZenUI app called ASUS Support. Please go to Apps/ASUS Support/Software/Slow app operation/Please follow 11 troubleshooting methods in this section.
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Thanks for the reply, but those are steps I took before playing each game, and i always clear my cache after each firmware update. So I do not believe any of those steps offered a viable solution.
Edit-- These are the results of Asphalt 8. Phone was off charger, and in performance mode. Cache was also cleared in recovery. Also, in the xda review of the zf2, he said he got 45 fps.
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I just downloaded reptide gp 2 and it's running smooth for now. I'll test the fps using gamebench in a bit.
Can't get gamebench to work. Sorry. :/
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Heya, could you shoot me an email so I can give you a hand? jake [@] gamebench.net
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Thanks manman but I got it to work, I had multiple devices connected to adb.
Reptide gp 2 has huge fps drops.(20-30 fps).
I tried overkill 3, it was unplayable.
Can someone please check the fps on their device ? It would really help.
I do not believe it is a hardware problem, because i'm getting a decent score on antutu.
trinimike100 said:
Reptide gp 2 has huge fps drops.(20-30 fps).
I tried overkill 3, it was unplayable.
Can someone please check the fps on their device ? It would really help.
I do not believe it is a hardware problem, because i'm getting a decent score on antutu.
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I couldn't check the fps on those games but rp2 had stutters whereas overkill 3 was unplayable. Dissapointed with this phone.
I've tried few games like Real Racing 3 and Shadow Legends which both ran on 120fps on ROG Phone 2, but they only show 60fps on S20 Ultra. so was wondering what games supports S20 Ultra 120hz display.
I believe Asphalt 9 does. How do you check at what refresh rate the game will play at?
Edit: found this list.
every game if you use this
Pokemon GO definitely
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I've tried few games like Real Racing 3 and Shadow Legends which both ran on 120fps on ROG Phone 2, but they only show 60fps on S20 Ultra. so was wondering what games supports S20 Ultra 120hz display.
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Have you tried dolphin?
Lol been asking everyone to test this.
Not sure if they have a 120 fps mode but would be nice to see if it actually runs games.
If it does then anything on the play store will be a breeze
dladz said:
Have you tried dolphin?
Lol been asking everyone to test this.
Not sure if they have a 120 fps mode but would be nice to see if it actually runs games.
If it does then anything on the play store will be a breeze
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Someone on reddit running it and very happy with it
Mohamad Gahed said:
Someone on reddit running it and very happy with it
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Really? Will check it out. There's a Mali optimized version.
The windwaker on GameCube ran perfect on the oneplus 5, perfect when I removed the page file on the P20 Pro and added performance mode via magisk (utterly unplayable without those tweaks)
Literally no settings would allow the pro to run those games..
If the 77 can run GameCube games and perhaps Wii then I'll be impressed.
I know the 865 is something special and this is Samsung's last chip is making, just hope they optimize it, for £1400 it should be able to run anything.
I think I'm going to find it's bottleneck, my money's on the GPU.
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Really? Will check it out. There's a Mali optimized version.
The windwaker on GameCube ran perfect on the oneplus 5, perfect when I removed the page file on the P20 Pro and added performance mode via magisk (utterly unplayable without those tweaks)
Literally no settings would allow the pro to run those games..
If the 77 can run GameCube games and perhaps Wii then I'll be impressed.
I know the 865 is something special and this is Samsung's last chip is making, just hope they optimize it, for £1400 it should be able to run anything.
I think I'm going to find it's bottleneck, my money's on the GPU.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS20U...dash/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
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https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS20U...dash/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
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Yea thats the SD mate I knew it would work perfectly on that, i'm just curious about the Exynos, it's been way behind in the past, hoping this year it'll be up to scratch, for the price it certainly should be.
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Pokemon GO definitely
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Mine seems to fade in and out. Game looks amazing then it fizzles out and looks worse than my S20+
World Of Tanks Blitz is one of my favorites.
Call of duty Mobile and I think PUBG and Fortune too.
Hey guys , I have a Galaxy S20+ exynos variant ,
And I noticed with using fps counter that all of the games are capped at 60 fps . I precise that those games support 120 Hz and work with other devices in 120 fps like the OP8 pro even in 84 fps in my old Mi 9 with an overclocked screen . I only managed to get subway surfers to work in 120 fps . Are you guys having the same issue or it's just me .
More info :
Screen resolution : FHD+
Screen refresh rate : 120 Hz
Battery setrings : max performance
Currently I as know there are very few games that support 120fps. And even if a game supports that, it is almost impossible for Exynos chip to reach that 120fps, unless it is a very lightweight game like Subway Surfers.
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Currently I as know there are very few games that support 120fps. And even if a game supports that, it is almost impossible for Exynos chip to reach that 120fps, unless it is a very lightweight game like Subway Surfers.
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Bro , there are many games supporting 120 fps .
I'm just talking about lightweight games like Alto .
With Mi 9 , I can play 84 fps at any games , even PUBG . Exynos 990 should be more powerful than SD 855
Simo4567 said:
Bro , there are many games supporting 120 fps .
I'm just talking about lightweight games like Alto .
With Mi 9 , I can play 84 fps at any games , even PUBG . Exynos 990 should be more powerful than SD 855
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no Exynos 990 is not more powerful when it comes to the GPU.
@Simo4567
try this.
My S20 Ultra exynos variant has been tamed, tweaked and abused, I'm now only 12k points behind the Snapdragon variant on the antutu benchmark, check the top 3, that's my device 3rd down
Thee exynos can and does perform just as well as the Snapdragon, it just needs a bit of fiddling with if you have root, in my eyes it was more fun applying tweaks and getting the device to run the way it does now
So in answer to your question, yes it is possible to obtain 120hz/120fps in all games and apps, root needed though, my FPS doesn't drop at all in heavy games and I also alleviated the overheating without losing the performance, in fact it runs faster than stock and still no overheat
It's taken weeks of testing and trying different things but I made it
Get your phone rooted and we can discuss some more mate, happy to give my understanding of this phone to anyone, might be easier in discord or telegram, give me a shout
Sort of off topic, but is there a good app to tell you the fps your games are running at? Just curious what I'm able to achieve.
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Sort of off topic, but is there a good app to tell you the fps your games are running at? Just curious what I'm able to achieve.
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samsung does have an fps counter included , just enable GPUwatch in developer options .
Alternatively , you can install perf z and games plugin from galaxy store
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My S20 Ultra exynos variant has been tamed, tweaked and abused, I'm now only 12k points behind the Snapdragon variant on the antutu benchmark, check the top 3, that's my device 3rd down
Thee exynos can and does perform just as well as the Snapdragon, it just needs a bit of fiddling with if you have root, in my eyes it was more fun applying tweaks and getting the device to run the way it does now
So in answer to your question, yes it is possible to obtain 120hz/120fps in all games and apps, root needed though, my FPS doesn't drop at all in heavy games and I also alleviated the overheating without losing the performance, in fact it runs faster than stock and still no overheat
It's taken weeks of testing and trying different things but I made it
Get your phone rooted and we can discuss some more mate, happy to give my understanding of this phone to anyone, might be easier in discord or telegram, give me a shout
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Okay Sir , I'm gonna root my device and I'll give you a shout . Thanks
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samsung does have an fps counter included , just enable GPUwatch in developer options .
Alternatively , you can install perf z and games plugin from galaxy store
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Everytime I enable gpuwatch the developer options menu crashes. I can't get back in until I restart the phone and when I try to enable it again, the same thing happens. Not sure why, but figure maybe a third party option wouldn't give me the same hassle.