Hiya, i've got to satisfy my curiosity. In any instructions in flashing roms, it is always said to make a recovery image. So my question is:
What is the difference between flashing a zip and restoring a recovery?
I know that a recovery will save setting and contacts etc, but in real terms of "i've got a bootloop and need to change my rom", what would the problem be in flashing from a zip and using my backup root to restore everything else?
Any replys greatly appreciated!
When you flash a new rom (zip) the settings, ... are stock (from the rom). After a restore everything is like you backed it up (normally ) - at least the settings, apps,... . I would recommend you to backup the apps also with TitaniumBackup or another equal app and the sms with Sms Backup & Restore. Just to be on the safe site
thans for the quick reply. just to clarify, is my backup (nandriod) was corrupted or by some freak chance i lot my sd with it on, there is not technical difference in just flashing a zip?
If you lose your backup (or it is corrupt,...) you loose your settings, apps and so on (->) After the installation of the rom there are only the stock apps, the stock "Desktop",... You could "repair" your phone with the rom, but a restore would be better in most cases
Hello to all,
I have Arc with ICS .587 installed and rooted, CWM is Also installed. Whenever i try to restore my Backup i end up in bootloop, sometines its restored but somethings are not working like no service, some widgets are Gone, cant get into Phone settings as the setting button is completly gone from phone.
Please can good Samaritan help me
Thanking All in Advance
Do you Wipe Data/Factory Reset/Cache etc before restore?
did you changed kernel?
if you chanege the name of the backup, things will not work.
gabimx said:
did you changed kernel?
if you chanege the name of the backup, things will not work.
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yes....not change the name of backup...
moreover if you have flashed a zip and it didn't go fine....there is a possibility that the istallation have spoiled the backup or file of kernel...(for all I know it happened to me in this way)
Yes Guys i do make a full wipe before restore, and after making a backup i transfer it to pc for Safe storage, so whenever i need it i transfer it back to cloclworkmod folder
centi50 said:
Yes Guys i do make a full wipe before restore, and after making a backup i transfer it to pc for Safe storage, so whenever i need it i transfer it back to cloclworkmod folder
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If u flash custom kernel, u need to also flash wifi modules before rebooting after restore...
I dont Flash custom Kernel, everything is stock, by the way My Arc is Bootlocked so customs kernels
While you make backup does cwm show any errors? have you checked the log ? Does the restore process complete without errors ? And do you fix permissions and mount system /data etc before restoring ?
nikufellow said:
While you make backup does cwm show any errors? have you checked the log ? Does the restore process complete without errors ? And do you fix permissions and mount system /data etc before restoring ?
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Backup Completes without Error, and no i do not Fix permission or Mount System/Data before restore.
centi50 said:
Backup Completes without Error, and no i do not Fix permission or Mount System/Data before restore.
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Then do it ! and try again .
This is what is happening to me. Lets say am Running on GB Rom e.g X-Gamer, now i want to try lets say Optimax Rom, i backup my Current ROM which is X-Gamer, then i try to restore it to see if its works, and i find that it works. so Flash ICS Original Sony ROM and root it. in the end i Have Sony Stock ROM.587 and CWM installed. So far am ok.
Now i Install ICS based ROM like Optimax or JellySandwhich. Everything goes Fine, so i Backup That ROM too and keep a copy on my Laptop. Now i decide to go to my old backup of X-Gamer, i Boot to recovery do a full wipe + i mount data/system and fix permission as i have CWM 5.5.0.4. which has permission option in it. i continue to restore my X-Gamer Backup. After Finnishing of course without error. i reboot the phone and Bam!!. Bootloop.
I reflash GB.42 with Flashtool, root it and install CWM. Boot to recovery and try to restore my X-Gamer backup, and WOLA!! it's restored.
same with ICS Backup. Reflash Stcok Rom root it and restore the ICS backup i made, and it works.
As i know i may be wrong (am a noob) The backup is a snapshot of the rom, so regardless of what rom someone is running when he restores the Backup, he should be back to that ROM in the backup and not to reflash first the corresponding Stock ROM in order for the Backup to work.
Please somebody help and shade some light
Have you used the same recovery all the time? Switching recoveries can "sometimes" not flash backups properly. Either that or it didn't back it up properly in the first place. TBH there's not much we can can do. The backup is corrupted and for that it is causing bootloops and braking things. All I can suggest to you is to reinstall a fresh install of the ROM and then try an advanced restore of your applications and data just not the Boot.img or the system.img
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Have you used the same recovery all the time? Switching recoveries can "sometimes" not flash backups properly. Either that or it didn't back it up properly in the first place. TBH there's not much we can can do. The backup is corrupted and for that it is causing bootloops and braking things. All I can suggest to you is to reinstall a fresh install of the ROM and then try an advanced restore of your applications and data just not the Boot.img or the system.img
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I have tried to use same recovery, but same result. restoring backup across different ROM does not work for me it seems. I have to have a working corresponding rom as the backup am trying to Resotre. for example if i want to restore my backup of GB ROM, i have to have a working GB Rom already on Phone. I Can't restore an ICS Rom while my Phone is On GB and vice verser.
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Please somebody help and shade some light
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Flashing an ftf also flashes the kernel, so restoring a GB backup when you originally installed ICS or vice versa will give you issues as CWM doesn't backup your kernel.
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Flashing an ftf also flashes the kernel, so restoring a GB backup when you originally installed ICS or vice versa will give you issues as CWM doesn't backup your kernel.
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Thanks XperienceD for Clarifying. now i undersatnd. Just wanted to ask is it possible to flash A GB Sock Kernel on an ICS ROM or vice versa, then using the backup to restore thru CWM, as this will save time than to reflash the ftf, root it and install CWM just only to restore your backup.
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as this will save time than to reflash the ftf, root it and install CWM just only to restore your backup.
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This is why it's better to unlock your BL, then it's just a flash of a kernel then restoring your backup.
Lets say I am on a fairly stock rom and have a good TWRP backup and try a radically different rom (like a CM 10.x) and decide to go back to what I had before do I have to flash the old rom file then restore the back up file or can I just restore the TWRP backup?
You can just restore the backup but do a reset first. Eg wipe to install new rom
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Lets say I am on a fairly stock rom and have a good TWRP backup and try a radically different rom (like a CM 10.x) and decide to go back to what I had before do I have to flash the old rom file then restore the back up file or can I just restore the TWRP backup?
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Hi - it depends on what you include in the backup on TWRP. If you select also Boot, System, Data and Recovery you will get back really everything you had. If you don't have a backup of EFS I would include that too. I did that quite often. When restoring backup you have also your old kernel/modem as it was working before. I never had bad experience with that. Whenever I'm now on CWM 6.0.3.5 as I'm using Android 4.3 (Probam 4.4).
Hi all,
I need to recover some information from my phone from before I flashed a new ROM, and wondering what's the easiest way about it based on the scenario given below;
I was running a rooted stock ROM (LB) with TWRP. I used titanium to batch backup my apps ( but seem to have overlooked my notepad app which had info in it that I now need.)
I installed resurrection remix which comes with CWM so can't just do a new nandroid, then restore the old one to get the info, then re-restore the newer backup.
Is there a way to extract the info direct from my twrp backup on my SD/ laptop or do I need to/is it possible to flash TWRP to replace CWM and keep the rest of the ROM as-is?
TIA
If you are just recovering a file, and not restoring the backup itself, try using nandroid manager. I can extract a file from my nandroid backup (created by cwm). I never tried it with twrp nandroid backup though.
Other option is to try to flash the Dual Recovery on your phone.
Then you have TWRP and CWM on your phone.
-> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2261606
Hey guys. It's been a while since the HTC 10 has been out and just throwing the question out there if anyone has figured out a way to make a backup of the stock Boot, Recovery, and System without flashing a custom recovery first ?
The reason:
I originally rooted my phone but couldn't get any of the OTA updates. Upgraded stock recoveries weren't available at the time and there were no RUU files for my carrier either. Eventually some of the upgraded stock recoveries became available but now we are on version 1.95.710.3 and again, no stock recovery is available for this version.
I want to be able to make a full backup (without flashing a custom recovery) so that I can flash TWRP to Boot, make a TWRP backup of Recovery and Rom, then do a restore from the original backup, flash TWRP to recovery and backup Boot as well. Then merge the 2 to make a full TWRP backup file to upload and post up on these forums for people with the same CID.
So, has anyone figured out a way to make a full backup without altering any of the boot, recovery or system partitions ?