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BT preventing deep sleep (6.0.1 PE5 build)

My phone's deep-sleep behavior isn't what I'd expect. If I disable Bluetooth, the phone properly spends almost all its idle time in deep sleep (according to the CPU Spy app). But when Bluetooth is enabled, even if no Bluetooth devices are connected, the phone does not enter deep sleep at all, no matter how long it's idle (and not charging).
On the other hand, having WiFi enabled does not interfere with deep-sleep mode.

Gary02468 said:
My phone's deep-sleep behavior isn't what I'd expect. If I disable Bluetooth, the phone properly spends almost all its idle time in deep sleep (according to the CPU Spy app). But when Bluetooth is enabled, even if no Bluetooth devices are connected, the phone does not enter deep sleep at all, no matter how long it's idle (and not charging).
On the other hand, having WiFi enabled does not interfere with deep-sleep mode.
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There is a search for nearby devices option in the settings menu which uses Bluetooth LE... not sure if that has something to do with it. That setting can be disabled.

DanMc85 said:
There is a search for nearby devices option in the settings menu which uses Bluetooth LE... not sure if that has something to do with it. That setting can be disabled.
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Thanks, but that setting only affects the phone's behavior when BT is turned off (and deep sleep already works when BT is off, regardless of the nearby-devices setting). The setting doesn't help when BT is turned on.

Can anyone running the PE5 build confirm either that deep sleep does or does not work for them when Bluetooth is enabled?

Gary02468 said:
Can anyone running the PE5 build confirm either that deep sleep does or does not work for them when Bluetooth is enabled?
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Downloaded app and testing now.
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Gary02468 said:
Can anyone running the PE5 build confirm either that deep sleep does or does not work for them when Bluetooth is enabled?
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Working fine on my end, 20min in deep sleep after downloading app clearing counters and putting phone screen to sleep.
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ToxicDev said:
Working fine on my end, 20min in deep sleep after downloading app clearing counters and putting phone screen to sleep.
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Hm, I wonder what's different about my Bluetooth. Anyway, thanks for checking.
Update: Turns out the CVS app has a perpetual Bluetooth wakelock. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/bluetooth-causing-wakelock-t3237226.

Sleep Tracker for Smartwatch 3

I am searching for a sleep Tracker app for our smartwatch. The apps i found use the phone or a fitness band.
Thanks
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mike-ac said:
I am searching for a sleep Tracker app for our smartwatch. The apps i found use the phone or a fitness band.
Thanks
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i found Sleep as an Android https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.urbandroid.sleep
It is an 14 days Trial Version. Costs 3,99€
and Sleep As Android GearCompanion https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.urbandroid.sleep.addon.generic.samsung

Sleep as Android is great.
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Wait for Sleep As Android to decrease the price and buy it.

I did buy it and it is great
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Sleep as Android is a great sleep tracker and they have burgeoning Wear support. I use it with my 360 and it usually works well. But it will drain battery a lot. you can turn off the watch screen to better battery consumption. It should use less the 20%
Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.urbandroid.sleep
apk: http://choilieng.com/apk-on-pc/com.urbandroid.sleep.apk
Sleep Better with Runtastic: another good app, you can try after Sleep as Android trial. It's kinda nice
Google Play: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.runtastic.android.sleepbetter.lite
apk: http://choilieng.com/apk-on-pc/com.runtastic.android.sleepbetter.lite.apk
Have fun!

I paid for the full version of the app when it was going cheap a few months back and now ive got myself a SW3 but im struggling to get it working or see the point of the app using the watch as the tracker.
From what i thought (i might be totally wrong) i would tap the app on my watch and go to bed. and then stop it when i got up. It would then resync with the app on my phone once they reconnected (my phone is on airplane mode at night and not in the same room as me). However i find the app on the phone just basically tells me when i started the tracking on the app on my watch and when i turned it off?
Am i missing something?

markgranto said:
I paid for the full version of the app when it was going cheap a few months back and now ive got myself a SW3 but im struggling to get it working or see the point of the app using the watch as the tracker.
From what i thought (i might be totally wrong) i would tap the app on my watch and go to bed. and then stop it when i got up. It would then resync with the app on my phone once they reconnected (my phone is on airplane mode at night and not in the same room as me). However i find the app on the phone just basically tells me when i started the tracking on the app on my watch and when i turned it off?
Am i missing something?
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The sw3 must be connect to you phone. Try it out. Its great
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mike-ac said:
The sw3 must be connect to you phone. Try it out. Its great
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I'll give it a bash tonight and see how it perfoms, quick test and looks good. See how the battery performs as the last time i ran the tracking on the watch the battery dropped about 50% overnight.
best put it on cinema mode over night to preserve the battery?

I pu cinema mode on because the display is to bright when it goes on. I loose under 15% over night.
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mike-ac said:
I pu cinema mode on because the display is to bright when it goes on. I loose under 15% over night.
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cheers will test tonight and post back with battery usage on phone and watch.
hopefully with wear v2 just round the corner we might be able to use the sleep tracking function independently on the watch, then sync once reconnected to phone. save the hassle.

Ok tested last night, put phone (S7 Edge) into airplane mode then turned on bluetooth manually, set the watch to sleep track and then pout the watch into cinema mode with alarm set on watch (not through sleep as android as not matter what settings i changed alarm would go off on the phone). Both devices lost about 10% of charge. Can live with that.
However will need to try and read up on interpreting the results as unsure what its telling me, graph is very confusing or maybe just an overload of info, and it seems to think i had 2 sleep periods with an hour in the middle of the night of none sleep/not tracking which wasnt the case.
Anyway further testing needed.

Why does Huawei watch display come on soooooooo slow when flicking wrist ?? Drives me

I have a Moto 360 first gen, Moto 360 2nd gen, LG G R watch and all of them the display pops right on full brightness when you flick your wrist to display the time. The Huawei watch when flicking my wrist to see what time it is takes a secons and then slooooowly fades in to the watch face. It takes a good second for it to start slowly brightening and then another second to fully display bright. It does it on every watch face ...is this normal ??? I move my wrist to check the time and its a good second or two that i have to stare at the watch to wait for it to slowly brighten from the dark screen. I have ALWAYS ON off and have wrist gestures off.... THANK YOU FOR ANY HELP CAUSE IT DRIVES ME CRAZY !!!

well every watch has it so i guess this is normal

pre10c said:
well every watch has it so i guess this is normal
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the OTHER watches the display comes right on when you flick your wrist to display the time. The HUAWEI watch, when I flick my wrist to display the time, its black for 2 seconds and then SLOWLY fades into the bright time display....should not take 1-3 seconds for the time to display after you flick your wrist should it ?? Does anyone else have this with their HUAWEI watch ???

multiplmyselfs said:
the OTHER watches the display comes right on when you flick your wrist to display the time. The HUAWEI watch, when I flick my wrist to display the time, its black for 2 seconds and then SLOWLY fades into the bright time display....should not take 1-3 seconds for the time to display after you flick your wrist should it ?? Does anyone else have this with their HUAWEI watch ???
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There are other threads here stating the same thing with many posts in agreement.. I use a custom ROM on my Huawei that is instant on. It is in the Huawei Development section.

multiplmyselfs said:
the OTHER watches the display comes right on when you flick your wrist to display the time. The HUAWEI watch, when I flick my wrist to display the time, its black for 2 seconds and then SLOWLY fades into the bright time display....should not take 1-3 seconds for the time to display after you flick your wrist should it ?? Does anyone else have this with their HUAWEI watch ???
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shouldve said every huawei watch, but as others say, theres been multiple posts about this.

Pkt_Lnt said:
There are other threads here stating the same thing with many posts in agreement.. I use a custom ROM on my Huawei that is instant on. It is in the Huawei Development section.
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Can you point me to which rom you are using?
Are the custom roms offering any other benefits compared to stock?

samjoandco said:
Can you point me to which rom you are using?
Are the custom roms offering any other benefits compared to stock?
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Negalite ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/hua...-negalite-huawei-rom-nx-root-bb-v1-6-t3406813
I use his kernel as well, link is in the OP of his ROM thread.
Deodexed, rooted. Extra apps, more control with his kernel for battery and / or performance. It looks and feels stock, but I use Tasker to make changes on the fly with my watch.
Example - when I go outside and loose wifi, my watch goes to #5 brightness, and when I connect wifi it goes back to #1 brightness. When I start my sleep tracker at night, it goes to do not disturb and theater mode, all automatic with Tasker.

Pkt_Lnt said:
There are other threads here stating the same thing with many posts in agreement.. I use a custom ROM on my Huawei that is instant on. It is in the Huawei Development section.
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Negalite ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/hua...-negalite-huawei-rom-nx-root-bb-v1-6-t3406813
brightness. When I start my sleep tracker at night, it goes to do not disturb and theater mode, all automatic with Tasker.
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cool thx, i will try it out. I like the idea of changing the brightness based on wifi conectivity. can you share your profile setting if its not too much?
I have another related question , related to tasker. Were you able to get tasker to switch to car bluetooth instead of watch using "BT Near" event? i can get tasker task to do it but it doesnt automatically switch on "BT Near" event

samjoandco said:
cool thx, i will try it out. I like the idea of changing the brightness based on wifi conectivity. can you share your profile setting if its not too much?
I have another related question , related to tasker. Were you able to get tasker to switch to car bluetooth instead of watch using "BT Near" event? i can get tasker task to do it but it doesnt automatically switch on "BT Near" event
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You need Wear Shell.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android-wear/development/app-wearshell-t2902242/page2
Here is the post with brightness settings.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66484214&postcount=21
I go as low as 20 with brightness setting, and that is very dark.
Here is the Tasker profile
Code:
Profile: Watch Brightness (73)
State: Wifi Connected [ SSID:XXXXX_5G/XXXXX MAC:* IP:* ]
Enter: Min Brite (55)
A1: Send Intent [ Action:de.fun2code.android.wear.shell.EXEC Cat:None Mime Type: Data: Extra:bsh: Runtime.getRuntime().exec("su -c settings put system screen_brightness 90"); Extra: Extra: Package: Class: Target:Broadcast Receiver ]
Exit: Max Brite (34)
A1: Send Intent [ Action:de.fun2code.android.wear.shell.EXEC Cat:None Mime Type: Data: Extra:bsh: Runtime.getRuntime().exec("su -c settings put system screen_brightness 254"); Extra: Extra: Package: Class: Target:Broadcast Receiver ]

Pkt_Lnt said:
You need Wear Shell.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android-wear/development/app-wearshell-t2902242/page2
Here is the post with brightness settings.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66484214&postcount=21
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Thanks , works like a charm!

Im using negalite Rom with his Kernel too, but i dont have the Instant on when i want to See the watch???

I am planning to buy this watch but i dont like this slow brightness increase.

Best choice atm. It is not as slow as it seems. Mike

sp5it said:
Best choice atm. It is not as slow as it seems. Mike
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Thanks. I have ordered the watch

Xendetor said:
Im using negalite Rom with his Kernel too, but i dont have the Instant on when i want to See the watch???
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Ditto. I suspect that is because the latest version uses the stock kernel and not his kernel. It isn't ready yet.

Can anyone of you recommend a good sleep-tracker wristband + Android app?

Hi everyone,
I recently heard about these fitness/health/sleep-tracking wristbands that are apparently able to grep your heart frequency, log it and also wake you up while you're not in deep sleep state to make you less tired in the morning.
Before accepting that being tired constantly and dependent on caffeine injections to the heart is my life now, I'd like to try that out and see where it leads.
Has anyone of you tried one of the billion devices for this purpose and can recommend something? My main issue is that it A) needs to work properly, but also B) needs an app that is halfway decent at least. I'm grateful for any hints.
Kind regards!

NovusDeus said:
Hi everyone,
I recently heard about these fitness/health/sleep-tracking wristbands that are apparently able to grep your heart frequency, log it and also wake you up while you're not in deep sleep state to make you less tired in the morning.
Before accepting that being tired constantly and dependent on caffeine injections to the heart is my life now, I'd like to try that out and see where it leads.
Has anyone of you tried one of the billion devices for this purpose and can recommend something? My main issue is that it A) needs to work properly, but also B) needs an app that is halfway decent at least. I'm grateful for any hints.
Kind regards!
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Sleep as Android is a great app I've been using for over a year now. It has great integration with Android Wear watches, Xiaomi Mi Bands (Requires external paid app but it's worth it.) and some more trackers (Full list here, https://sleep.urbandroid.org/documentation/integration/wearable/). I personally use the Xiaomi Mi Band 2.
The app detects if you're in a deep sleep or light sleep and wakes you up when it thinks you're light sleeping. It also has compatibility with Philips Hue Lights to simulate a sunrise. It gives you advice on how to improve your sleep, prevents jet lag and oversleeping and much more. I highly recommend this app.
Sleep As Android:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.urbandroid.sleep&hl=nl

MI band 2

I know Fit Bit watches can track your heart rate but I am not sure if it can wake you up..... But if you are interested in running or jogging or walking or basically just being active, you can get Fitbit to track your heart rate and daily steps.

Mi Band 4 - frequently asked questions

I've compiled a short list of frequently asked questions seen over various forums or points which were not clear to me (even as a user of MB2). If you find anything missing or incorrect, please let me know.
Q: How to track sleep?
A: Sleep is tracked automatically during night hours, Heart Rate sleep assistance can help in improvement of the detection of various phases. To view the sleep stats, open Mi Fit app and sync the band. Sleep/naps are not detected during day hours.
Q: Does Mi Band have automatic workout tracking?
A: No, workouts have to be started manually either from Mi Fit, or from the band directly.
Q: How to use 24/7 HR with less battery usage?
A: Configure "Automatic heart rate detection & Sleep assistant", detection frequency as desired. Do NOT enable activity detection - it will switch to continuous HR measurements whenever there is some activity detected (e.g. walking). When needed, use manual workout for continuous HR monitoring instead (which will also gather additional statistics).
Q: How to use a 3rd party watch face?
A: The most easy way is to use app like Notify & Fitness, Mi Band tools, etc to apply the watch face directly. Great selection of watch faces can be found here https://amazfitwatchfaces.com/mi-band-4/top. AmazFaces populates the "My band displays" in Mi Fit application.
Q: Is MB4 waterproof? Can I swim/shower with it?
A: Per standard GB/T 30106-2013 (or ISO 22810 : 2010(R2016)), 50m water resistance is rated as suitable for showering, surface swimming and shallow snorkeling. Diving is not recommended. After each submersion in sea water you have to clean the watch/band in fresh water.
Q: MB4 cycles through menu during water activities.
A: Enable lock screen on the band and try avoiding running water in the "down->up" direction. Shower can easily imitate slide up gesture and unlock the screen.
Q: MB4 detects HR when laying on the table or wrapped around inanimate objects.
A: "Signal-to-noise ratio of a real blood flow is sometimes very low so the algorithms are very sensitive in screening for any non-random components in the light variation, and when such are found they are interpreted as HR. So, the algorithms pretty much always find something which is not completely random and interpret that as a HR."
Source: https://www.wareable.com/fitness-trackers/why-heart-rate-monitor-work-on-toilet-rolls-6606
Q: What is behavior tagging in Mi Fit?
A: AFAIK behavior tagging is there only to help developers to make the band more accurate, once you stop the activity, data collected from sensors are uploaded to Xiaomi. It does not impact nor improve your statistics directly and it certainly drains the battery as sensors are being constantly pulled for data. When you start an activity, press the button in the upper right corner - it will switch to real time raw data of sensors.
Q: Is there a hardcoded minimum Heart Rate value (e.g. 47bpm)?
A: Band measures as low as 40bpm (if this value is actually 100% correct is hard to tell as it happens during sleep ).
Q: Are there 3rd party apps for Mi Band management? I do not like Mi Fit.
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Q: I don't see detailed stats (steps, sleep, heart rate) for previous days, only summary in history.
A: When on the detailed screen of the current day, swipe right to navigate to detailed stats of previous days.
Q: Mi Band keeps unfastening itself during sleep or when dressing/wearing backpack etc.
A: Try to wear the band reversed (strap loop away from you, fastening button towards you). Also you can buy a silicone strap keeper (generic 14mm or specifically for Mi Band on Ali/eBay/..) to keep band on hand even when accidentally unfastened.

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Hello, I just have a curiosity regarding the effective frequency used by Mi Band 4 to track the steps.
Sometimes it tracks steps very fluently, almost in real time; other times instead it stops counting on the display and after a while it adds a group of steps in a bunch (it always tracks steps but on the display it's not always reported in real time).
Why does it happen?
Does the heartbeat frequency detenction work in the same way or is it different?
Thanks

In my experience, steps are updated in real time when there is a long enough continual activity (walking outside, running etc.). For short activities with a lot of breaks (around the house) it tends to update in batches. It might have something to do with "clearing up the noise" - band waits for "chaotic" small numbers to accumulate and then applies some kind of statistical filter to provide accurate number of steps. Also all activities must have 10 steps at minimum.
Maybe someone else has better explanation though..
Heart beat rate is being recorded by Mi Band itself at set frequency and displayed on the phone only after sync (or during workout). For some reason watch faces with HR display show different value than Mi Fit after the sync. So far I haven't figured why

Hi,
Is it possible to make the band vibrate when it looses BT connection? I tried using "Anti-loss my phone feature" in "Notify & Fitness app" but it says "Instead this option use native connection lost notification for best results". Where can I find this native option?
Best regards

kslonka said:
Hi,
Is it possible to make the band vibrate when it looses BT connection? I tried using "Anti-loss my phone feature" in "Notify & Fitness app" but it says "Instead this option use native connection lost notification for best results". Where can I find this native option?
Best regards
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As far as I know, this feature was part of the official firmware on Mi Band 2, but has been removed on Mi Band 3 and 4. N&F offers a workaround with alarms which are constantly being rescheduled, but as it's written in the instructions, this "beta feature" will most probably drain your phone and band battery very quickly. If you really miss this feature, you could try submitting a feature request via Mi Fit app and hope that it'll get implemented some day officially.

_mysiak_ said:
As far as I know, this feature was part of the official firmware on Mi Band 2, but has been removed on Mi Band 3 and 4.
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Do you know if there is a custom firmware that has this feature?
Anyway, thanks for your reply. I've ordered Mi Band 2 and if it works better for me I'll return the 4.

How can I share my mifit band 4 activities from the official mifit app? The latest in Google play I mean

kslonka said:
Do you know if there is a custom firmware that has this feature?
Anyway, thanks for your reply. I've ordered Mi Band 2 and if it works better for me I'll return the 4.
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There is no custom firmware for MB4 as of now, only custom resources (languages, icons). Also I found an information that firmware must be signed, so unless someone finds a way how to crack this security mechanism, there won't be a custom firmware.
I find MB2 still very good, but nice big screen with custom watch faces and easy starting of workouts from MB4 is very addictive. Just curious - why do you find this "anti loss" feature so important?
felixcuceanu said:
How can I share my mifit band 4 activities from the official mifit app? The latest in Google play I mean
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What exactly do you want to share? Workouts can be synced to Google Fit for example, or exported as a screenshot from Mi Fit.

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why do you find this "anti loss" feature so important?
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I work at a large software company, we have on-call duty so I need to be available. When I want to go to the beach or to the swimming pool I would like to get notifications from my band. If I loose the connection to the phone and do not get a notification I might miss some critical alert.

kslonka said:
I work at a large software company, we have on-call duty so I need to be available. When I want to go to the beach or to the swimming pool I would like to get notifications from my band. If I loose the connection to the phone and do not get a notification I might miss some critical alert.
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I see. For your use case I would look for a smart watch with a SIM card. Using a smart band connected to a phone will be extremely limiting for you. Even if you'll receive the notification that you're out of range, this will happen more often than not - practically almost immediately once you're in the water or a couple of meters away from the phone, so I'd expect to be notified very often. Btw. MB4 shows on the watch face once it's disconnected from the phone, but it's only a small icon - there is no vibration or any special notification shown. It might help if you glance at your band every now and then..

_mysiak_ said:
There is no custom firmware for MB4 as of now, only custom resources (languages, icons). Also I found an information that firmware must be signed, so unless someone finds a way how to crack this security mechanism, there won't be a custom firmware.
I find MB2 still very good, but nice big screen with custom watch faces and easy starting of workouts from MB4 is very addictive. Just curious - why do you find this "anti loss" feature so important?
What exactly do you want to share? Workouts can be synced to Google Fit for example, or exported as a screenshot from Mi Fit.
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I managed to share directly from the app by pressing on the activity result. Thank you! I shared it as an image

_mysiak_ said:
I see. For your use case I would look for a smart watch with a SIM card.
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Do you have any recommendations? I prefer android and would love it to be completely standalone (I'm not sure about eSIM).
_mysiak_ said:
Using a smart band connected to a phone will be extremely limiting for you. Even if you'll receive the notification that you're out of range, this will happen more often than not - practically almost immediately once you're in the water or a couple of meters away from the phone, so I'd expect to be notified very often.
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I did not know that bluetooth range is reduced to a couple of inches when the device is under water :/. If MB2 would vibrate every time my hand goes under wanter then I do not want it. I guess I can use MB4 and "mi bandage" / "fitness & notify" phone loss feature when I go into the water with an interval ~5 min to remind me to get out of water and check to see if there are any notifications and I can disable it when I do not want it.

kslonka said:
Do you have any recommendations? I prefer android and would love it to be completely standalone (I'm not sure about eSIM).
I did not know that bluetooth range is reduced to a couple of inches when the device is under water :/. If MB2 would vibrate every time my hand goes under wanter then I do not want it. I guess I can use MB4 and "mi bandage" / "fitness & notify" phone loss feature when I go into the water with an interval ~5 min to remind me to get out of water and check to see if there are any notifications and I can disable it when I do not want it.
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Personally I don't have any experience with smart watches beyond Mi Band, but the usual choice seems to be Samsung Galaxy watch series.
Bluetooth in general doesn't have great penetration of solid obstacles, in my experience it reaches about max 5 meters with one or two walls in the way, and often it's even less. Situation is slightly better in open space. Quick Google search says, that watch will lose connectivity just about 3 cm under water (which may be the case with eSIM too, I couldn't find more info about it). With WiFi it's about 15cm (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3355409/). I guess that simple reminder to check your phone will be probably your best choice if you're planning to spend some time in water (or leave someone near your phone and he/she will let you know if any notification arrives ).

kslonka said:
I work at a large software company, we have on-call duty so I need to be available. When I want to go to the beach or to the swimming pool I would like to get notifications from my band. If I loose the connection to the phone and do not get a notification I might miss some critical alert.
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IMHO the app Mi Bandage can emulate this behaviour by continuously setting up an alarm on the Mi Band a few minutes in the future. So the alarm will trigger if it's time doesn't get updated by the app because the connection was lost. I wish I could emulate this behaviour with Tasker somehow without needing the app. (currently using Gagetbridge and additionally Mi Band Tools just because of the gesture support for Tasker. But I can't recommend because Mi Band Tools is very annoying regarding asking you to enable notification access for the Mi Fit app even if it's not installed)

sunsero said:
IMHO the app Mi Bandage can emulate this behaviour by continuously setting up an alarm on the Mi Band a few minutes in the future. So the alarm will trigger if it's time doesn't get updated by the app because the connection was lost. I wish I could emulate this behaviour with Tasker somehow without needing the app. (currently using Gagetbridge and additionally Mi Band Tools just because of the gesture support for Tasker. But I can't recommend because Mi Band Tools is very annoying regarding asking you to enable notification access for the Mi Fit app even if it's not installed)
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This is exactly what N&F does. Though prolonged use will have impact on the battery as it needs very often wake locks and data synchronizations.

How can I install 1.0.7.0.4 on miband four?

felixcuceanu said:
How can I install 1.0.7.0.4 on miband four?
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From N&F app. But you need to remove Mi Fit (or replace it with patched version), otherwise it will reflash the FW with the latest official stable version (1.0.6.16).

Is there any posibility to get sleep data (REM) in realtime from miband 4? Raw data don't interesting. For my project with arduino and etc. Or maybe sensor + sleep phase recognition.

IlluminatusII said:
Is there any posibility to get sleep data (REM) in realtime from miband 4? Raw data don't interesting. For my project with arduino and etc. Or maybe sensor + sleep phase recognition.
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I don't think that it's possible. Sleep is calculated afterwards, only after the sleep has ended, and from raw data gathered during the night. For example start of sleep is using historic data - e.g. no movement for 5 minutes, add canditate for sleep start, if no further major movement detected within 30 minutes, make it permanent, if steps detected, cancel sleep tracking. You can't have this kind of data in real time. Also band itself doesn't do any calculations, the sleep processing is done in the app.