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Hello, so in theory this should be a sort of straightforward question, but I'm not sure there is a good solution yet. I've found that the M9 is veeeeeery conservative with charge speeds and rating chargers it deems worthy to give it fast charge speeds. With that comes many reputable third-party chargers giving the phone little to no juice, and I would like to override this.
So what I'm looking for is a way to tweak the charge speed allowed manually. On my Google Play Edition S4, this was called fastcharge (not quickcharge, not interested in buying one of those, as every charger I have has more than one usb port and I'd like to keep it that way). It was something that I found on a custom kernel and allowed you to set a max charge speed for both AC and USB charging (with AC being able to be tweaked all the way to 1900mAh).
With all that being said, does anyone know how to allow something like this with the stock kernel? I've seen a couple kernels that advertise this as a feature, but they also all seem to be in beta, and have bugs that aren't squashed yet. I'm on Viper 1.6 if that helps at all, and any help with this would be appreciated!
LeeDroid Kernel v2
and the LeeDroid kernel will work on Viper rom? Have you experienced any problems with it so far (if you're using it)
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and the LeeDroid kernel will work on Viper rom? Have you experienced any problems with it so far (if you're using it)
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None here and have been using it for some time now. Very snappy, superb battery and very fast boot. Using with insert coin currently and controlling with "adiutor" kernel app. Working flawlessly here
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None here and have been using it for some time now. Very snappy, superb battery and very fast boot. Using with insert coin currently and controlling with "adiutor" kernel app. Working flawlessly here
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Okay then. I'll do a nandroid and give it a try, thanks!
ElementalX is great
It's a shame that you find the HTC One M9 charge rate to be too slow but don't wish to do the only thing that will give impressively fast charging with stock software: obtain a Qualcomm certified fast charge 2.0
The fast charge capability comes from using chargers that use higher voltage than the standard 5 volt.
Higher voltage leads to higher charge current which shortens charge time.
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guyverzero said:
Hello, so in theory this should be a sort of straightforward question, but I'm not sure there is a good solution yet. I've found that the M9 is veeeeeery conservative with charge speeds and rating chargers it deems worthy to give it fast charge speeds. With that comes many reputable third-party chargers giving the phone little to no juice, and I would like to override this.
So what I'm looking for is a way to tweak the charge speed allowed manually. On my Google Play Edition S4, this was called fastcharge (not quickcharge, not interested in buying one of those, as every charger I have has more than one usb port and I'd like to keep it that way). It was something that I found on a custom kernel and allowed you to set a max charge speed for both AC and USB charging (with AC being able to be tweaked all the way to 1900mAh).
With all that being said, does anyone know how to allow something like this with the stock kernel? I've seen a couple kernels that advertise this as a feature, but they also all seem to be in beta, and have bugs that aren't squashed yet. I'm on Viper 1.6 if that helps at all, and any help with this would be appreciated!
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I think you just need a 2A charger. I get very quick charge time with the Nexus 6 charger.
Why HTC didn't include this is beyond stupid. This thing is capable of charging to full in an hour or less
The thing kernels have is USB fastcharge, which increases the current when connected to a computer USB port.
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I think you just need a 2A charger. I get very quick charge time with the Nexus 6 charger.
Why HTC didn't include this is beyond stupid. This thing is capable of charging to full in an hour or less
The thing kernels have is USB fastcharge, which increases the current when connected to a computer USB port.
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Thing is, I have a ton of chargers that should be able to pull more than 2 amps, and have on other phones. I have an Anker one (with charge detection up to 2.4 a port I believe) and an Aukey one that's the same. Also have the stock HTC and Samsung S4 one, those do seem to pull about 1-1.5 out of it but the third party ones aren't doing anywhere near what they should be (normally getting betweeen 3-800 out of them, topping out at about 1 amp).
And yeah I've found that out about the kernels so far, USB only. I was thinking that based on the reading but I figured I would try. I wonder when/if an AC fast charge will be implemented, or if it even can (not sure how it works with quick charge 2.0 interfaces). My S4 did have the setting for both USB and AC so I was hoping to find the same for this. It's not a huge huge deal, but I would like it if possible. Or if a company could come out with a slightly affordable 4 or 5 port charger with at least one or two QC 2.0 slots that'd be lovely as well.
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Thing is, I have a ton of chargers that should be able to pull more than 2 amps, and have on other phones. I have an Anker one (with charge detection up to 2.4 a port I believe) and an Aukey one that's the same. Also have the stock HTC and Samsung S4 one, those do seem to pull about 1-1.5 out of it but the third party ones aren't doing anywhere near what they should be (normally getting betweeen 3-800 out of them, topping out at about 1 amp).
And yeah I've found that out about the kernels so far, USB only. I was thinking that based on the reading but I figured I would try. I wonder when/if an AC fast charge will be implemented, or if it even can (not sure how it works with quick charge 2.0 interfaces). My S4 did have the setting for both USB and AC so I was hoping to find the same for this. It's not a huge huge deal, but I would like it if possible. Or if a company could come out with a slightly affordable 4 or 5 port charger with at least one or two QC 2.0 slots that'd be lovely as well.
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There's one on Amazon
It's from a manufacturer called CHOE or CHLOE
It's a 5 port charger with 2 ports capable of quick charge 2.0 and rest of the 3 ports upto 1.5 or 2 amps
It remains for 30ish
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Yeah they were the first ones to get it and now a few others are too, but 35 is still just a liiiiiiiittle steep for me to pay. Thanks for looking out though, appreciate it.
What app are you guys using to check your charging speed? I used galaxy charging current on my S4, but it obviously doesn't work on this device. I've tried a few from the play store but nothing seems reliable.
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What app are you guys using to check your charging speed? I used galaxy charging current on my S4, but it obviously doesn't work on this device. I've tried a few from the play store but nothing seems reliable.
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Ampere is good. It had a hard time reading an octacore on a fast charger (one of those two was giving it issues) at first but recent updates seem to have sorted it out.
I need a buy a new car charger anyway so I want to get the most capable one for the HTC 10. I suspect that would include the quickcharge 3.0 spec and a USB-C port?
Will there be any benefit to QC3 over USB-C compared to QC2 and a USB-A to USB-C cable?
I've looked on Amazon but I don't see anything that appears to fit the bill. Are there any other phones out now that have both QC3 and USB-C that we can gain experience from? I know the Nexus 5x and 6p has USB-C, but they don't have QC3, right?
Look for Tronsmart chargers (QuickCharge3.0) over aliexpress, might take a few weeks to deliver but the product is nice and cheap.
Even better if available over ebay/amazon.
I've just ordered this one from Amazon in readiness.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Charger-Vin...&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01
Plus 3 of these USB cables.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Release-Ank...&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
Anker PowerDrive+ 1 looks quite good.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/AUKEY-Quick...723334&sr=1-2&keywords=aukey+quick+charge+3.0
Just be sure to get the USB-C cables that are really up to the spec, or you could burn up your new phone. See here for tested products:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A25GROL6KJV3QG/ref=cm_cr_rdp_pdp?tag=phandroid-20
Thanks guys, really nice choices here. I'm looking for a car charger myself.
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/AUKEY-Quick...723334&sr=1-2&keywords=aukey+quick+charge+3.0
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I looked at that one but it appears to only have USB-A connections. I'm under the impression that USB-C to USB-C will give better charging results?
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Look for Tronsmart chargers (QuickCharge3.0) over aliexpress, might take a few weeks to deliver but the product is nice and cheap.
Even better if available over ebay/amazon.
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This one on Amazon seems to fit your suggestion. $20 on Amazon Prime seems like a decent deal.
http://www.amazon.com/Charger-Tronsmart-Quick-Charge-Technology/dp/B018K7LHBU
EDIT: In fact, it's an even better deal at $11 with discount code "USBCCHAR". I just ordered one.
I don't think you'll notice much difference.
HTC deliveres also an USB A to C cable with the 10.
There is a maximum of charging speed and I think you can get that also with an USB A to C.
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This one on Amazon seems to fit your suggestion. $20 on Amazon Prime seems like a decent deal.
http://www.amazon.com/Charger-Tronsmart-Quick-Charge-Technology/dp/B018K7LHBU
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That would be the cheapest thing that you can get delivered quickly; Aukey is another economical option that you can check.
Aliexpress ones sell for cheaper usually (or even half the cost during sale) but those take alot of time to deliver (it being shipped from China via standard international shipping).
AUKEY Quick Charge 3.0 Car Charger 19.5W for Galaxy S7 / S7 Edge, Note 5 / 4, LG G5, Nexus 6, Samsung Fast Charge Qi Wireless Charging Pad and more
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01C5T61CY/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_Q4Oexb7C1272Z
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I found this useful https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...JsQaXK1dl8I91V4-eP_sfNVNzbA/htmlview?sle=true
I would choose Anker on Amazon if I want to buy a QC 3.0.
I love tronsmart products because it has lots of models:http://www.tronsmart.com/products/quick-charge-3-0-car-chargers From 1 port to 3 ports, USB A port to Type-C port.
Easiest way would be to take a look at the Qualcomm QC certified list. It's a great starting point.
Also the list has direct links to product pages which is certainly a nice touch.
https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/quick-charge-device-list
Because if it's certified "by Qualcomm" (UL really), I'd say it's up to snuff..
Of course the list isn't updated instantly but rather monthly, so when new devices and accessories (or power controllers) roll out, and they pass the certification process, they'll be added there eventually.
I follow
https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts
for his tested products and I think everyone will be fine.
Qualcomm has a list as well
https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/q...ge-device-list
I applied to review a free Choetech QC 3.0 car charger, hope they can contact me soon.
Here is the thread link to apply: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/accessories/preview-chloetech-quick-charge-3-0-t3369060
what about this one? the smallest I've seen:
dodocool quick charge 3
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what about this one? the smallest I've seen:
dodocool quick charge 3
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I'd be careful with these..
"Dodocool" doesn't have any accessories listed in Qualcomm's certified accessories list. (PDF)
No QC3.0 accessory OR QC2.0 accessory.
Their products do seem OK but I'm personally not gonna trust any manufacturer for example being my QC3.0 charger unless they have something on that list, at least some product that shows they have actually made something that complied with Qualcomm's standard, especially since that list isn't updated daily rather monthly.
P.S. That's a wall charger and this thread is about car chargers and besides, the 10 ships with a QC3.0 wall charger.
Edit: Now I actually looked at the Dodocool QC3.0 wall charger reviews, this one has pictures and NO UL LOGO hence it's not UL listed hence it's not certified.
I would avoid it. Might be perfectly fine and fully compliant OR it could kill your dog and burn your house down etcetera.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/review/R2U...detail-glance&nodeID=560798&store=electronics
Hi All,
Got a car charger and multi port charger coming from choetech, I've used their stuff in the past and they are up there with anker as 3rd part cable companies go.
heres an early preview of them, They are looking for beta testers so you can sign up here: http://www.choetech.com/Support-review.html
Be interesting to see what these are like with the htc 10, i will let everyone know more once i receive the items.
@Phil750123, Thanks for sharing this information, I'll be glad to test the car charger!
I actually have the qc3 wall charger. So far it's charging pretty fast on my s7. Agree with other posters that the quality seems really good. Will know how it compares to stock when I get the HTC 10.
Yeah their quality is great. They were the first to come out with a good USB type C wall charger for the Nexus 6p
They're just a little bit logo happy.
RoHS eh idk. Fake CE.. And don't even get me started on that FCC logo.. Someone needs to tell them who/what FCC is..
The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) regulates interstate and international communications by radio, television, wire, satellite and cable.
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Why on earth would a charger need that..
To me they just look like another chinese manufacturer.
Atleast have the brains to use appropriate logos so they'd be semi passable, like I don't know TÜV or UL and so forth..
And, of course, they're nowhere to be seen on Qualcomm's certified accessories list. Not even any QC2.0..
P.S. I did apply for testing, they sent me an email, I replied. Let's see if they send something lol. I'm not a liar so I'm gonna be honest if I do get their stuff for review
Yer they look decent I already have some of their usb c cables, I've just ordered the qc 3 portable charger from them aswell so il review them all and see how get on. But yer they make no mention of favourable reviews they just want a review, which means they are confident in their products which hopefully means they are good
Nice, I have some on the way, they look good.
I actually asked this question at qualcomm but they wouldn't answer, maybe someone knows the answer here, hopefully it is not too confusing.
I was wondering about the QC 3.0 technology chargers. My question is, say I buy a wall charger or a car charger that supports QC 3.0); will it charge my type C phone (say an LG G5 or an HTC 10) as fast with the QC 3.0 technology using a type A to type C cable? I know if I charge a type C device using only type c it will get me faster charges, but if I do type A to type C (with QC 3.0) with the right charger will I still get the best results?
Thanks.
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I actually asked this question at qualcomm but they wouldn't answer, maybe someone knows the answer here, hopefully it is not too confusing.
I was wondering about the QC 3.0 technology chargers. My question is, say I buy a wall charger or a car charger that supports QC 3.0); will it charge my type C phone (say an LG G5 or an HTC 10) as fast with the QC 3.0 technology using a type A to type C cable? I know if I charge a type C device using only type c it will get me faster charges, but if I do type A to type C (with QC 3.0) with the right charger will I still get the best results?
Thanks.
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type A to type c wil reduce charging times even with 3.0. I went with these cables and for a car charger I got this one both should give the rapid charging.
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type A to type c wil reduce charging times even with 3.0. I went with these cables and for a car charger I got this one both should give the rapid charging.
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Thanks for clarifying, I wasn't sure. I think the HTC 10 charger comes with 3.0 quick charge, but it is a type A to type C.
I actually just got my QC 3.0 Powerbank from Choetech and I love it. Charges everything fast just like the spec allows for, and has a great build quality. One small thing I like is that when fast charging, the first light to the left switches from blue to green to indicate that. I just appreciate the assurance that my device is gonna be juiced up quick. The only thing that's odd about it is that you need to press the power button for charging to begin. I'd prefer it to just start when a device is connected, but that's my personal preference.
Overall I still really like the thing, great to have a powerbank that charges just as fast as my wall charger, before I was stuck with one that didn't have and QC capability. I'll include some pics below.
If anyone has any questions about it, let me know. Should also be getting a 6 port QC 3 charger from them soon too, will post on here when I do.
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I actually just got my QC 3.0 Powerbank from Choetech and I love it. Charges everything fast just like the spec allows for, and has a great build quality. One small thing I like is that when fast charging, the first light to the left switches from blue to green to indicate that. I just appreciate the assurance that my device is gonna be juiced up quick. The only thing that's odd about it is that you need to press the power button for charging to begin. I'd prefer it to just start when a device is connected, but that's my personal preference.
Overall I still really like the thing, great to have a powerbank that charges just as fast as my wall charger, before I was stuck with one that didn't have and QC capability. I'll include some pics below.
If anyone has any questions about it, let me know. Should also be getting a 6 port QC 3 charger from them soon too, will post on here when I do.
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I was looking at this on Amazon last night, but they don't seem to be on Qualcomm's official partner list, which makes me a bit nervous for my battery (which I'm not super impressed with anyway so far - one of the reasons I was looking at the power bank). Do either the phone or the charger get hot while charging? The HTC QC3 charger seems to prevent overheating.
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I was looking at this on Amazon last night, but they don't seem to be on Qualcomm's official partner list, which makes me a bit nervous for my battery (which I'm not super impressed with anyway so far - one of the reasons I was looking at the power bank). Do either the phone or the charger get hot while charging? The HTC QC3 charger seems to prevent overheating.
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They aren't, but speeds have been up to par with what I'd expect from QC3 so far so I haven't had problems with it. The charger gets warm after a bit, as does the phone (warmer than with stock charger) but also nowhere near as much as the M9 would when charging. Don't know if you've used that before, but when charging regularly it would get so hot that it had to stop, and that's even with screen off. It was crazy bad at charging, which is a thing I never thought I'd say about a 2015 flagship....so I'm glad the 10 is better in that regard, at least. I'd imagine almost any third party charger is gonna make the phone hotter than the OEM one will, but I didn't have a problem with the heat it generated, overall.
Choetech Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 Powerbank
I actually have the Quick Charge 3.0 Powerbank from them too.
I did a written review here on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/review/R1ZWR923TFDD2J/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B01AAHT62A
and a video Review on YouTube:
For whatever reason, the YouTube vid isn't showing properly, so here's the link:
https://youtu.be/AwXLqECy0R0
Im still waiting for the main qc 3.0 to arrive from china, but i also got the choetech qc3 portable charger and it works great.
Im just waiting for my usb multireader to come and il check out the voltages etc.. just to double check its all safe, but i've had choetech stuff in the past and had
no issues, they have good warranty so they must trust their quality.
Hey,
As one of the first devices to support Qualcomm's QuickCharge 3.0 it seems like a great idea to use a QC 3.0 compatible Powerbank on the go.
Not only is it said to be more power efficient, it's definitely faster, the shorter your stuck on a Powerbank, the better right?
So has any of you used a QC3.0 Powerbank before?
A list of certified devices is shown here: https://www.qualcomm.com/news/onq/2...accelerating-hundreds-devices-and-accessories
Aside from the QC 3.0 aspect, I'm not sure what's better. Going for a small 4000-5000mAh device that's handy but charges your phone just once, or go for a huge 16'000mAh brick which will charge it 3-4 times?
I've never had a Powerbank before. Until now I've always reached a wall outlet before I ran empty.
Im actually waiting for anker power bank qc 3.0 to come out, talk with them and seem will be launched this month
I bought this RAV Power 20100mAh unit that is QC3 a couple weeks ago, I've used it with my M9 (As my 10 hasn't arrived yet...) and it seems to work great so far. It costs a couple bucks right now but so far worth it to me...
http://www.amazon.com/Qualcomm-Certified-RAVPower-20100mAh-Technology/dp/B019IFIJW8
I would avoid anything by Aukey, I've had a couple ones that were QC2 go bad and their customer service response is not good at all.
I'm waiting for choe tech one to arrive and I'll review it as soon as I get it
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I bought this RAV Power 20100mAh unit that is QC3 a couple weeks ago
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Nice.
As I doubt that you have a QC3.0 compatible USB Powermonitor may I ask you to use Software to Benchmark a Charging situation?
Using the App Battery Log ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kr.hwangti.batterylog) you can simply start the service when at 5% Battery and the Powerbank is connected.
5% because everything below is bad for battery health if you do it to often, and everything above isn't really a full charge.
When you receive your phone and have time to play around, that is
I hope the Powerbank is able to charge the phone as fast as a wall charger.
P.S did you know that RAVpower is not on the official list from Qualcomm for QC3.0 certified devices?
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P.S did you know that RAVpower is not on the official list from Qualcomm for QC3.0 certified devices?
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Their qc3 power bank is on the list, their charger is not.
I come from a Nexus 6P that also had a USB C port. Today I needed to charge my phone and the 6P charger was next to me. But, knowing all the issues there are/were with USB C, I decided to search before using the charger and I found this article:
http://www.androidcentral.com/my-htc-10-hates-pixel-c-charger
After reading this article, I found some threads speaking about this and decided that I would stick with the official charger only.
But, I got curious. When this information came out, the phone was pretty new. Were there any new findings regarding this in the meantime? Is it really mandatory that I only use the official charger unless I want my phone to turn into a Note 7?
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I come from a Nexus 6P that also had a USB C port. Today I needed to charge my phone and the 6P charger was next to me. But, knowing all the issues there are/were with USB C, I decided to search before using the charger and I found this article:
http://www.androidcentral.com/my-htc-10-hates-pixel-c-charger
After reading this article, I found some threads speaking about this and decided that I would stick with the official charger only.
But, I got curious. When this information came out, the phone was pretty new. Were there any new findings regarding this in the meantime? Is it really mandatory that I only use the official charger unless I want my phone to turn into a Note 7?
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Google does not support Quick Charge technology forced by Qualcomm. They go with proprietary USB Power Delivery. So no wonder Google charger does not work with QuickCharge enabled phones.
I think HTC is to blame here though. They should have gone with USB C standards, not Qualcomm's.
So, we should stick with only the official charger I guess?
You can basically use any charger but just to be on the safe side I would stay away from the USB-PD chargers. USB Power Delivery and Qualcomm Quick Charge differ quite a bit.
"Any charger" being anything that's a basic 5V USB charger whether it's a 1A or 1.5A or 1.8A or 2A or 2.4A... Or any Quick Charge 2.0 or Quick Charge 3.0 charger.
And if you want to be extra safe, only buy chargers from reputable brands and in the case of Quick Charge chargers, pick one from the certified list.
https://www.qualcomm.com/documents/quick-charge-device-list (PDF)
If you come across a QC charger that's not on the certified list, you can ask yourself: has the manufacturer certified any other products? If they have, you're pretty much good to go. If they haven't, well ask the manufacturer why they haven't certified any QC products they make. Another good question for a charger manufacturer would be to ask what power controller are they using in that product? If the power controller is certified then, well, that's that. I'd say you're good to go as the power controller is the brains of the whole operation.
I personally have a Tronsmart CC2TF charger in our car, it's not on the certified list but they have certified a dozen different accessories in the past so I'm not even slightly worried. They make good products.
P.S. @cavist Qualcomm doesn't force anything. If an OEM doesn't want to use Quick Charge on their device then they will not use it. Whoopdy doo, big deal.
Also USB-PD is non-proprietary, royalty-free spec in contrast to the proprietary, royalty-free Quick Charge spec.
P.S. @cavist Qualcomm doesn't force anything. If an OEM doesn't want to use Quick Charge on their device then they will not use it. Whoopdy doo, big deal.
Also USB-PD is non-proprietary, royalty-free spec in contrast to the proprietary, royalty-free Quick Charge spec.[/QUOTE]
I mismatched the words and meaning, thanks for correcting this. As for forcing issue, I meant that almost every device with Snapdragon with QC is using that feature and the company is advertising their power delivery standard which anybody would expect opposite to Google which is relying on approved USB PD specification. It is strange that so many big companies choose the QC and not proper USB PD in its place while having a free hand in choosing the charging standard.