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What's the difference between Z5 E6833 and E6883?

Hi,
Any one know the differences between Z5 Premium dual SIM model E6833 and model E6883 ? Same specification, except for TD-LTE.
E6833 have LTE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20
E6883 have LTE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, and TD-LTE 38, 39, 40, 41
So, what's the interest to pickup the E6833?
E6883 is more "international".
Thanks to explain and bring light to my confused brain

one is dualsim and one isnt
the dualsim version cant use the roms nor kernel due to the differences in hardware around the sim and radio.

I understand that if you want a real international version, you should go with E6853 version of this phone. It sports LTE bands 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/20/28. Hope this helps.

Envious_Data said:
one is dualsim and one isnt
the dualsim version cant use the roms nor kernel due to the differences in hardware around the sim and radio.
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both are dual sim; only difference is that 6883 offers TD/LTE bands too.
Both fully compatible with european FDD/LTE bands (B3/B7/B20)
E6833: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II), AWS-1(Band IV), 2100 (Band I) MHz GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20)
E6883: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II), AWS-1(Band IV), 2100 (Band I) MHz GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, 38, 39, 40, 41)
Sony official white paper: http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/...s/Xperia_Z5_Premium_dual_E6833_E6883_WP_2.pdf
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macbera said:
I understand that if you want a real international version, you should go with E6853 version of this phone. It sports LTE bands 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/20/28. Hope this helps.
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6853 is a single SIM variant
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z5_Premium_E6853_WP_2.pdf

The Duam SIM variant supports additional LTE bands 38,39,40,41 which are for Europe...anyone buying for U.S. usage can buy either one.

gparmar76 said:
The Duam SIM variant supports additional LTE bands 38,39,40,41 which are for Europe...anyone buying for U.S. usage can buy either one.
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European standard LTE bands are: FDD B3/B7/B20
Those bands (B38/B39/B40/B41) are TD LTE bands (no TD coverage at all in Europe)

Envious_Data said:
one is dualsim and one isnt
the dualsim version cant use the roms nor kernel due to the differences in hardware around the sim and radio.
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Sorry can you explain this more, are you saying that the E6883‏ (Dual Sim) is less likely to be modified? I'm confused, all Android's have ROM's and Kernel's

e6883 and e6833 cat.4 or cat. 6 lte ?
Dear sir,
i want to know if the device support in dual sim premium variante e 6883 lte cat. 4 or lte cat.6 (300mbps download) because there are different specifications on the web.
thanks

dude9946 said:
Sorry can you explain this more, are you saying that the E6883‏ (Dual Sim) is less likely to be modified? I'm confused, all Android's have ROM's and Kernel's
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I just think he meant you can't use a single sim rom on a dual sim phone and vice versa

do both sim slots on the E6883 connect through 4G or is sim 2 only 2G?

Differences between US and Euro Version

Hi
Can someone tell me if there is any difference between the US and the Euro version of the Pixel ?
Do they use the same LTE Bands ?
Thx
Lionel

Would like to know as well

There's a $200 difference somewhere!

Just bands and likely the absence in the US model of the certification label at the bottom of the back of the device (like Nexus 6P, that hasn't them in the US version and has them in the international version).

The bands are different. The USA model wouldn't be able to use 4G in Europe. You'd be stuck using 3G.

scandalousk said:
The bands are different. The USA model wouldn't be able to use 4G in Europe. You'd be stuck using 3G.
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are you sure ? In my country (Switzerland) we use mostly LTE Bands 3,7 and 20 and as you can see, the 3 bands are in both version.
I only see a difference in the LTE 2X CA and LTE 3X CA where the combinaison are not the same.
Can someone confirm ?
North America
GSM: Quad-band GSM
UMTS/WCDMA: B 1/2/4/5/8
CDMA: BC0/BC1/BC10
TDS-CDMA: N/A
FDD LTE: B 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/29/30
TDD LTE: B 41
LTE 2xCA: B2+B2, B2+B4, B2+B5, B2+B12, B2+B13, B2+B17, B2+B29, B2+B30, B4+B4, B4+B5, B4+B7, B4+B12, B4+B13, B4+B17, B4+B29, B4+B30, B5+B30, B7+B7, B12+B30, B25+B25, B29+B30, B41+B41
LTE 3xCA: B2+B2+B12, B2+B2+B13, B2+B4+B4, B2+B4+B5, B2+B4+B12, B2+B4+B13, B2+B4+B29, B2+B5+B30, B2+B12+B30, B2+B29+B30, B4+B4+B12, B4+B4+B13, B4+B5+B30, B4+ B7+ B12, B4+B12+B30, B4+B29+B30, B41+B41+B41
Rest of the world
GSM: Quad-band GSM
UMTS/WCDMA: B 1/2/4/5/6/8/9/19
CDMA: BC0
TDS-CDMA: B 34/39
FDD LTE: B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/13/17/18/19/20/21/26/28/32/
TDD LTE: B 38/39/40/41
LTE 2xCA: B1+B3, B1+B5, B1+B7, B1+B8, B1+B18, B1+B19, B1+B20, B1+B21, B1+B26, B1+B41, B3+B3, B3+B5, B3+B7, B3+B8, B3+B19, B3+B20, B3+B28, B5+B7, B7+B7, B7+B8, B7+B20, B7+B28, B19+B21, B20+B32, B38+B38, B39+B39, B39+B41, B40+B40, B41+B41
LTE 3xCA: B1+B3+B3, B1+B3+B5, B1+B3+B8, B1+B3+B20, B1+B5+B7, B1+B19+B21, B1+B41+B41, B3+B3+B5, B3+B3+B7, B3+B3+B8, B3+B7+B7, B3+B7+B8, B3+B7+B20, B3+B7+B28, B7+B7+B28

My advice is to wait and see. Google posted a similar spec sheet last year for the Nexus 6P. It was corrected after while. It would be wise to wait until the phone is actually out and see if the page gets corrected.
Should the page be correct, then the USA version will work in Europe. You just won't have lte-advanced. Carrier aggregation depends on band combinations. None of the European bands are combined on the USA version.

Why nobody knows the real name of the models? For the Nexus 5 there was the D820 and D821, what about Pixel?

Here are the answers you guys been waiting for:
View attachment 3990770View attachment 3990771
Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

matteventu said:
Just bands and likely the absence in the US model of the certification label at the bottom of the back of the device (like Nexus 6P, that hasn't them in the US version and has them in the international version).
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FCC changed the rules to allow for device certification notices to be part of the Firmware, Google took advantage of this with the NA model (Settings > About Phone > Regulatory Labels), I'm guessing that there are territories outside USA & Canada that still require the labels on the body of the device.

Yeah that's pretty much what I said lol

US-Model works in Switzerland
according to this site the us-model will work with all bands of all carriers within switzerland: frequencycheck.com/compatibility/kR11C21/google-pixel-xl-2-phone-td-lte-na-g011c-lg-taimen/switzerland

If you are a Project Fi user, another important difference is that you can not use Project Fi with the international version of the Pixel XL.

lionel7 said:
are you sure ? In my country (Switzerland) we use mostly LTE Bands 3,7 and 20 and as you can see, the 3 bands are in both version.
I only see a difference in the LTE 2X CA and LTE 3X CA where the combinaison are not the same.
Can someone confirm ?
North America
GSM: Quad-band GSM
UMTS/WCDMA: B 1/2/4/5/8
CDMA: BC0/BC1/BC10
TDS-CDMA: N/A
FDD LTE: B 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/13/17/20/25/26/28/29/30
TDD LTE: B 41
LTE 2xCA: B2+B2, B2+B4, B2+B5, B2+B12, B2+B13, B2+B17, B2+B29, B2+B30, B4+B4, B4+B5, B4+B7, B4+B12, B4+B13, B4+B17, B4+B29, B4+B30, B5+B30, B7+B7, B12+B30, B25+B25, B29+B30, B41+B41
LTE 3xCA: B2+B2+B12, B2+B2+B13, B2+B4+B4, B2+B4+B5, B2+B4+B12, B2+B4+B13, B2+B4+B29, B2+B5+B30, B2+B12+B30, B2+B29+B30, B4+B4+B12, B4+B4+B13, B4+B5+B30, B4+ B7+ B12, B4+B12+B30, B4+B29+B30, B41+B41+B41
Rest of the world
GSM: Quad-band GSM
UMTS/WCDMA: B 1/2/4/5/6/8/9/19
CDMA: BC0
TDS-CDMA: B 34/39
FDD LTE: B1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/13/17/18/19/20/21/26/28/32/
TDD LTE: B 38/39/40/41
LTE 2xCA: B1+B3, B1+B5, B1+B7, B1+B8, B1+B18, B1+B19, B1+B20, B1+B21, B1+B26, B1+B41, B3+B3, B3+B5, B3+B7, B3+B8, B3+B19, B3+B20, B3+B28, B5+B7, B7+B7, B7+B8, B7+B20, B7+B28, B19+B21, B20+B32, B38+B38, B39+B39, B39+B41, B40+B40, B41+B41
LTE 3xCA: B1+B3+B3, B1+B3+B5, B1+B3+B8, B1+B3+B20, B1+B5+B7, B1+B19+B21, B1+B41+B41, B3+B3+B5, B3+B3+B7, B3+B3+B8, B3+B7+B7, B3+B7+B8, B3+B7+B20, B3+B7+B28, B7+B7+B28
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From that list, it seems that while the international version supports almost all of the bands that the US version does and then some, the US version is still better in the US due to more applicable carrier aggregation support.

Confirm supported LTE bands on XT1671 Dual SIM?

Can anyone confirm the supported LTE bands on the XT1671 dual SIM? My searching has showed conflicting information. Some places say LTE bands supported are:
LTE bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 19, 20, 28, 38, 40
... yet others, including an Amazon listing, say:
(B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 17, 28)
I'd rather have the latter as it includes the primary LTE bands used in both Europe and the US. Obviously I don't want to buy a device only to find out it won't support LTE in one or the other.

Dual Sim on Unlocked USA Version?!

I'm having doubts but c'mon! Apple has had it for the last two generations! Still an esim, but so what?
Having two numbers on one phone rocks! I know the international versions do it but when one of the numbers is on Verizon, that idea goes out the window.

That's what I want to know as well.. rocking OnePlus 7 Pro just because of dual sim

I read the US version is single esim. The F will be dual sim but will miss key US bands (again). It remains to be seen if it will have the right 5G bands for the US. It’s very annoying when apple phones have all the bands.

There is something not clear for now. In Europe, the Ultra is dual nano sim AND eSim compatible. Does it means we have 3 phone numbers?

Powergeek2017 said:
There is something not clear for now. In Europe, the Ultra is dual nano sim AND eSim compatible. Does it means we have 3 phone numbers?
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I doubt that what you've mentioned is true. Actually what most of the dealers are saying is that most of the regions will receive a hybrid sim + e-sim version. Meaning an e-sim with a hybrid slot (either adding a nano sim or a micro sd card).
But the good news is that I've bumped into a dealer on ebay selling a dual physical sim version, so actually it will be available but for selected regions.
I really don't understand their policy, the e-sim support is still not supported globally.
My guess is that they just don't want to miss something the iPhone has in their phone.

Does anyone know if the international dial sim has the right 5G bands for AT&T in the US? All the F versions of Samsung phones miss band 30, and I’m wondering if the addition of 5G will make it not matter that band 30 isn’t included. Anyone know?

Spec sheet on Best Buy website shows Exynos. That is weird! That may be dual hybrid sim (where you put in the second sim where the microsd goes).

cpufrost said:
Spec sheet on Best Buy website shows Exynos. That is weird! That may be dual hybrid sim (where you put in the second sim where the microsd goes).
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can you post a link to that

ekerbuddyeker said:
can you post a link to that
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https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsun...unlocked-cosmic-black/6395759.p?skuId=6395759
Scroll down to features section.
I prefer the 865 over Exynos just based on past issues with performance and battery life. I'm over the rooting phase so not worried about it any more TBH.

ekerbuddyeker said:
Does anyone know if the international dial sim has the right 5G bands for AT&T in the US? All the F versions of Samsung phones miss band 30, and I’m wondering if the addition of 5G will make it not matter that band 30 isn’t included. Anyone know?
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Based on this comparison spec sheet from Techwalls, it doesn’t look like there will be an international dual sim model that will support the same 5G bands as the US models (sub 6ghz, mid band, mmwave). Maybe the SM-G9880 SM-G9888 Asian versions will have dual sim even though there’s no DS on the model # (hoping).
SM-G988F/DS (Dual-SIM Unlocked)
SM-G988BZADXSP (Cosmic Gray – 128GB Storage)
SM-G988BZKDXSP (Cosmic Black – 128GB Storage) Exynos 990 Asia (India, Singapore) 2G GSM: GSM850, GSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900
3G UMTS, HSPA+: 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz
4G LTE: Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 38, 39, 40, 41, 46, 48, 66, 71
5G: Bands n2, n5, n41, n66, n7
SM-G9880
SM-G9888 Snapdragon 865 – 12GB RAM China
Hong Kong
Japan
Brazil 2G GSM: GSM850, GSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900
2G CDMA: 800, 1900 MHz
3G UMTS, HSPA+: 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz
3G CDMA: CDMA2000, EV-DO: 800, 1900 MHz
4G LTE: Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 38, 39, 40, 41, 46, 48, 66, 71
5G: Bands n2, n5, n41, n66, n71, n260, n26
SM-G988U
SM-G988UZAAXAA (Cosmic Gray – 128GB Storage)
SM-G988UZKAXAA (Cosmic Black – 128GB Storage)
SM-G988UZKEXAA (Cosmic Black – 512GB Storage) Snapdragon 865 – 12GB RAM Factory Unlocked – US 2G GSM: GSM850, GSM900, DCS1800, PCS1900
2G CDMA: 800, 1900 MHz
3G UMTS, HSPA+: 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz
3G CDMA: CDMA2000, EV-DO: 800, 1900 MHz
4G LTE: Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 38, 39, 40, 41, 46, 48, 66, 71
5G: Bands n2, n5, n41, n66, n71, n260, n26
Search Techwalls.com Samsung Ultra 5G for more models (sorry, new user and can’t post a url yet).

I am pretty sure you will not see any US 5G bands on Exynos models So if you want 5G in US, you will need to get Snapdragon S20 . Also Samsung likely caved in to US carriers yet again and disabled eSIM support in US Snapdragon models. There is a CNET article that states eSIM support will be enabled in a future update but US carriers will likely disable it.

OnePlus 7T T-Mobile (HD1907) Unlocked usable in Europe?

Does anyone know if the OnePlus 7T T-Mobile (HD1907) is going to be usable in Europe if unlocked? I attach the relevant T-Mobile App screenshots to this post.
I tried to look it up on the internet when it comes to supported frequencies. But the www.frequencycheck.com does not list the T-Mobile (HD1907) version.
However here (http://band71.batcave.net/) HD1907 is listed together with HD1905, and that one is compatible with European bands: https://www.frequencycheck.com/mode...ual-sim-td-lte-na-128gb-hd1905-bbk-guacamoleg
All in all when it comes to supported frequencies, it looks like it will be fine.
My main concern is if unlocked T-Mobile variant will like my European SIM card and the double SIM tray.
Has anyone got some information regarding this?

Here are the frequencies on the T mobile variant oneplus 7T.
Frequency: UMTS: Band I (2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100), Band V (850), Band VIII (900); GSM: 850 MHz, 900 MHz, 1800 MHz, 1900 MHz; LTE: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 34, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 46, 48, 66, 71; CDMA: 0, 1, 10
source: https://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phone/oneplus-7t

yes, the hd1905 and hd1907 support the most bands out of any 7t variant. The tmobile firmware may potentially be lacking some ims support though (eg tmo firmware is missing visible wireless ims support, but that's domestic), but you're not likely to run into any issues.
I don't have my old dump handy to compare profiles, but if you wanted to be certain you'll have maximum support, consider flashing the global firmware.

Nice!
How did you unlock the T-Mobile version 7t?

ziddey said:
yes, the hd1905 and hd1907 support the most bands out of any 7t variant. The tmobile firmware may potentially be lacking some ims support though (eg tmo firmware is missing visible wireless ims support, but that's domestic), but you're not likely to run into any issues.
I don't have my old dump handy to compare profiles, but if you wanted to be certain you'll have maximum support, consider flashing the global firmware.
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Well, I have a 1907, unlocked from the factory, everything works, except for the volte, although my provider connects to band 28, it does not connect to volte and my provider uses that network to provide its services

Yep, everything works fine, I buy dual sim tray on aliexpress, and second sim card works too