What's the difference between Z5 E6833 and E6883? - Xperia Z5 Premium Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
Any one know the differences between Z5 Premium dual SIM model E6833 and model E6883 ? Same specification, except for TD-LTE.
E6833 have LTE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20
E6883 have LTE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, and TD-LTE 38, 39, 40, 41
So, what's the interest to pickup the E6833?
E6883 is more "international".
Thanks to explain and bring light to my confused brain

one is dualsim and one isnt
the dualsim version cant use the roms nor kernel due to the differences in hardware around the sim and radio.

I understand that if you want a real international version, you should go with E6853 version of this phone. It sports LTE bands 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/20/28. Hope this helps.

Envious_Data said:
one is dualsim and one isnt
the dualsim version cant use the roms nor kernel due to the differences in hardware around the sim and radio.
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both are dual sim; only difference is that 6883 offers TD/LTE bands too.
Both fully compatible with european FDD/LTE bands (B3/B7/B20)
E6833: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II), AWS-1(Band IV), 2100 (Band I) MHz GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20)
E6883: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II), AWS-1(Band IV), 2100 (Band I) MHz GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, 38, 39, 40, 41)
Sony official white paper: http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/...s/Xperia_Z5_Premium_dual_E6833_E6883_WP_2.pdf
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macbera said:
I understand that if you want a real international version, you should go with E6853 version of this phone. It sports LTE bands 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/20/28. Hope this helps.
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6853 is a single SIM variant
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z5_Premium_E6853_WP_2.pdf

The Duam SIM variant supports additional LTE bands 38,39,40,41 which are for Europe...anyone buying for U.S. usage can buy either one.

gparmar76 said:
The Duam SIM variant supports additional LTE bands 38,39,40,41 which are for Europe...anyone buying for U.S. usage can buy either one.
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European standard LTE bands are: FDD B3/B7/B20
Those bands (B38/B39/B40/B41) are TD LTE bands (no TD coverage at all in Europe)

Envious_Data said:
one is dualsim and one isnt
the dualsim version cant use the roms nor kernel due to the differences in hardware around the sim and radio.
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Sorry can you explain this more, are you saying that the E6883‏ (Dual Sim) is less likely to be modified? I'm confused, all Android's have ROM's and Kernel's

e6883 and e6833 cat.4 or cat. 6 lte ?
Dear sir,
i want to know if the device support in dual sim premium variante e 6883 lte cat. 4 or lte cat.6 (300mbps download) because there are different specifications on the web.
thanks

dude9946 said:
Sorry can you explain this more, are you saying that the E6883‏ (Dual Sim) is less likely to be modified? I'm confused, all Android's have ROM's and Kernel's
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I just think he meant you can't use a single sim rom on a dual sim phone and vice versa

do both sim slots on the E6883 connect through 4G or is sim 2 only 2G?

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6502,6503,6506 Differences?

Besides from Zone related releases, What are the differences on F/W?
I saw that roms and F/w are model depend on the model? And you cannot flash roms for 6503 for 6502 ?
My phone is a 6502 so just want to make sure!
The only thing that I know is c6503 and c6506 works on 4G networks LTE
But c6502 is not a 4G compatible...
I know also that c6506 is much more expensive and not available widely in every country... But why? We will see other's response
Sent from my C6502 using xda app-developers app
There's two differences between the C6502, C6503, and C6506. What network frequencies they support is the main difference, with the second difference being that the C6502 has a barometer and the C6503 and C6506 don't.
C6502: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),
1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
C6503: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
LTE Band I, Band III, Band V, Band VII, Band VIII and Band XX
C6506: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),
1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
LTE Band I, Band II, Band IV, Band V and Band XVII
In terms of price, the C6506 is about the same as the C6503 in america, whereas the C6502 is about $50 cheaper, the reason being that the other two have LTE, which presumably costs more to implement what with licensing fees and whatnot.
Now, the main reason you can't flash C650* specific firmware is because, as far as I know, each phone has a different chip for network radios, plus the C6502 has a barometer.
I am currently using the latest firmware 10.3.1.A.0.244 that I downloaded from cad yesterday which was c6503 specific and flashed it on my c6502. Everything works like a charm
Sent from my C6503 using xda premium
TheTofu said:
There's two differences between the C6502, C6503, and C6506. What network frequencies they support is the main difference, with the second difference being that the C6502 has a barometer and the C6503 and C6506 don't.
C6502: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),
1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
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I got the C6502 and it doesnt have barometer. I used service test--->Pressure Sensor: "this device does not support the function"
Enomine said:
I got the C6502 and it doesnt have barometer. I used service test--->Pressure Sensor: "this device does not support the function"
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I agree. C6502 Doesn't have a Barometer.
Query on Sonymobile Forum support says it was a mistake in printing:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z-ZL-ZR/Xperia-zl-No-pressure-sensor/td-p/313008
It was in white papers C6502, by pressure sensor i mean barometer. Its even listed in all major shoppin sites as well as sites like gsmarena.
Reply:
Ah, I understand. Unfortunately there was a mistake in the White Paper for Xperia ZL. It doesn't have a pressure sensor/barometer. The information should be updated in the WP soon.
droidvijayan said:
I agree. C6502 Doesn't have a Barometer.
Query on Sonymobile Forum support says it was a mistake in printing:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z-ZL-ZR/Xperia-zl-No-pressure-sensor/td-p/313008
It was in white papers C6502, by pressure sensor i mean barometer. Its even listed in all major shoppin sites as well as sites like gsmarena.
Reply:
Ah, I understand. Unfortunately there was a mistake in the White Paper for Xperia ZL. It doesn't have a pressure sensor/barometer. The information should be updated in the WP soon.
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on gsm arena it says on 6502 ha barometer
bhavstech said:
on gsm arena it says on 6502 ha barometer
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Infact, Sony Xperia ZL(C6502) sold in India, doesn't even have LTE Network capability, as Marketed by Sony in Sonymobile India website.
Something seriously wrong by SONY in providing the phone specifications. We are kind of cheated by this.
http://www.sonymobile.com/in/products/phones/xperia-zl/specifications/#tabs
I have also attached the snapshot of the Xperia ZL India Website. Here is the snip.
--------------------<snip>--------
Memory
RAM: 2GB
Flash memory: Up to 16 GB
Expansion slot: microSD™ card, up to 32 GB
Networks
UMTS HSPA+ (Bands 1, 5, 8 or bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 8) *
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20 or bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 17)* <=========================LTE
----------------<end>---------------------------------
Indian Variant of Sony Xperia ZL has only, GSM/WCDMA only. No LTE.
droidvijayan said:
Infact, Sony Xperia ZL(C6502) sold in India, doesn't even have LTE Network capability, as Marketed by Sony in Sonymobile India website.
Something seriously wrong by SONY in providing the phone specifications. We are kind of cheated by this.
http://www.sonymobile.com/in/products/phones/xperia-zl/specifications/#tabs
I have also attached the snapshot of the Xperia ZL India Website. Here is the snip.
--------------------<snip>--------
Memory
RAM: 2GB
Flash memory: Up to 16 GB
Expansion slot: microSD™ card, up to 32 GB
Networks
UMTS HSPA+ (Bands 1, 5, 8 or bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 8) *
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20 or bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 17)* <=========================LTE
----------------<end>---------------------------------
Indian Variant of Sony Xperia ZL has only, GSM/WCDMA only. No LTE.
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You need to learn to read the fine print my friend, or else life will bite you in the ass over and over and over...
Here's the networks listed on the site:
Networks
UMTS HSPA+ (Bands 1, 5, 8 or bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 8) * < --- Notice the asterisk
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20 or bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 17)* < --- Notice the asterisk
Here is the fine print located DIRECTLY under the network info:
* This service is not available in all markets.
It's not very obvious, but thats the whole point of fine print.
6506 to 6503
I have a 6506 model that I bought in Canada, but I live in Brazil now.
What I want to know is:
- It's possible to use the 6503 firmware to have the 2600Mhz frequency?
Or this is something in the hardware?
droidvijayan said:
I agree. C6502 Doesn't have a Barometer.
Query on Sonymobile Forum support says it was a mistake in printing:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z-ZL-ZR/Xperia-zl-No-pressure-sensor/td-p/313008
It was in white papers C6502, by pressure sensor i mean barometer. Its even listed in all major shoppin sites as well as sites like gsmarena.
Reply:
Ah, I understand. Unfortunately there was a mistake in the White Paper for Xperia ZL. It doesn't have a pressure sensor/barometer. The information should be updated in the WP soon.
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I can agree with this too, it doesn't have a barometer
TheTofu said:
There's two differences between the C6502, C6503, and C6506. What network frequencies they support is the main difference, with the second difference being that the C6502 has a barometer and the C6503 and C6506 don't.
Now, the main reason you can't flash C650* specific firmware is because, as far as I know, each phone has a different chip for network radios, plus the C6502 has a barometer.
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Old, old post. I was looking for the bands for every ZL and found this post. Caught my eye that you say C6502 has a barometer. I have a C6502, and it does not have one. I have checked several sites that list C6502 with a barometer, but in fact, it does not have it. Or maybe all this time I had it and I don't where it is!!!!
Found out, I already posted saying the same thing! please delete this post?

Sony Xperia T2 Ultra D5303 2g?

I got the Sony Xperia T2 Ultra D5303 from amazon and I am in the US using tmobile. I only get edge or 2g? Is there anyway around this? Thanks for any help
jadbox said:
I got the Sony Xperia T2 Ultra D5303 from amazon and I am in the US using tmobile. I only get edge or 2g? Is there anyway around this? Thanks for any help
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Sorry, but no. The radio in the D5303 does not support the bands used by T-Mobile for 3G. You need the D5306 to get full 3G and 4G coverage in the USA for both carriers. However, you should be able to get 3G from AT&T (or an AT&T-based MVNO) on the D5303.
- Bands used by the carriers -
3G on AT&T: 850 up/down, 1900 up/down
3G on T-Mo: 1700 up, 2100 down
4G on AT&T: Bands 2, 4, 5, 17,
4G on T-Mo: Band 4
- Bands supported by the Sony T2 Ultra -
D5303: 3G - 850, 900, 2100; 4G - Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20
D5306: 3G - 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100; 4G - Bands 2, 4, 7, 17
For AT&T, as long as your phone has one of the bands, you should be good, as each band is upload/download. For T-Mobile, however, your phone needs both bands (one for upload and one for download).
Thanks so much for your help. would this work on tmobile?
2G: GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900, 3G: HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 1700, 4G: HSPA+ HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 1700
Hi...I'm a complete novice to all this, so this may be a silly question.
Can I simply buy a spare radio (either from a D5306 or another compatible device) and swap them out?
Thanks!
Possibly. TMobile is 'refarming' their network to support 3G/4G (HSPA+) over 1900. IF you live in an area that has not been 'refarmed' then you will need radios for AWS which are 1700/2100.
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jadbox said:
Thanks so much for your help. would this work on tmobile?
2G: GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900, 3G: HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 1700, 4G: HSPA+ HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 1700
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Possibly. TMobile is 'refarming' their network to support 3G/4G (HSPA+) over 1900. IF you live in an area that has not been 'refarmed' then you will need radios for AWS which are 1700/2100.

lte europe bands enable?

can i use use other than verizon htc m8/9 LTE: 700/1700/1800/2600 MHz (Band 3, 4, 7, 13) bands? like band 5/8/20?
because verizon only works 3/4/7/13 bands, i am not able to use LTE europe band in eu =(
is there any way to overcome this problem?
thnx
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Verizon on T-Mobile...

I currently have a Verizon HTC 10 but am wanting to make the switch to T-Mobile. Anyone know if I would be able to use my phone on T-Mobile's network? I tried Google but mostly everything was about using an Unlocked HTC 10 on Verizon.
If the Verizon HTC 10 is unlocked, then in "most" places it will work including cellular data. Continue reading...
Below is the network info for HTC 10 from Verizon and specs do show that 3g/4g(UMTS) should work find as long as you are in 1900 band area. It is because the phone is missing 1700 that T-Mobile is using. As for LTE signal, you are covered I have made bands in "bold" and they represent T-Mobile compatible bands that Verizon model has.
CDMA: 800, 1900 MHz, GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz , UMTS: 850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz, LTE: Band 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 13, 20, 28
https://www.verizonwireless.com/smartphones/htc-10/

Difference models?

Can someone tell us the difference between all Nokia 6 2018 models please?
TA-1068
TA-1045
etc...
Is there a specific model for 'Worldwide' like Nexus/Pixel?
Is there a Europe version?
...
...
THANKS!
Very interested in the subject.. Also, if information is available, What models are being sold in what markets...
1045 is the US model.
I'm using one now, I got from eBay. Works great on Cricket, ya know other than it being Cricket. Lol
I know but what's the differences?
I got the TA-1043 model. Ordered it from Bol in the Netherlands and live in Belgium.
What, are, the differences?
nobody knows... it's like the cloud )
Normally it has to do with the modem, bundled apps and charger wall socket type...
Does the US TA-1045 model really have 4GB of ram? Or is it a typo and it has 3GB?
A different wall charger has never changed the model name lol!
The goal of this topic is if some people KNOW the differences between models, not telling what model you have lol
All I know is that I have a TA-1050 model here in the UK and it is perilously close to being 3 months behind with security updates and is still on 8.0 - SIM free and not tied to any carrier.
So much for Android One.
I bought the Chinese version which comes with 4GB Ram and 64GB Memory (TA-1054) .
Sadly i figured out, that the Chinse Version isn't part of the Android One Program.
It seems like a Nokia specialized playstore Custom Rom.
Further im missing the "ZEISS" Brand, which could mean, the Lense was produced by someone else.
But that's just a guess.
Edit: I just realized, that the Display comes with just 320ppi instead of 403ppi
I just got my TA-1045 from walmart. Despite the website saying 4GB, the box itself says 3/32. In settings, it says total memory is 2.9GB.
I just chatted with a support guy from NOKIA, asking for the codes of the non-Chinese (international?) versions. He provided me with the following codes:
Single SIM models:
TA-1016, TA-1050
Dual SIM models:
TA-1043, TA-1045, TA-1068,TA-1089
bsivanov said:
I just chatted with a support guy from NOKIA, asking for the codes of the non-Chinese (international?) versions. He provided me with the following codes:
Single SIM models:
TA-1016, TA-1050
Dual SIM models:
TA-1043, TA-1045, TA-1068,TA-1089
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Thanks!
so the question is, what are the differences between TA-1043, TA-1045, TA-1068,TA-1089...
I saw in ebay and amazon the Nokia 6.1 TA-1068 4GB/64 who sold from US, But with headline :Inertational Stock No Warranty" so maybe the 4GB RAM Dual SIM Inernational / Europ Model is TA-1068.
The bands, by amazon, are:
3G WCDMA B1 / B2 / B5 / B8 ; 4G LTE B1 / B3 / B4 / B5 / B7 / B8 / B20 / B28 / B34 / B38 / B39 / B40 / B41
Is possible now to pre-order the 3GB from B&H but without model name, with this specs:
GSM 2G GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
GSM 3G/3.5G UMTS: 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz
4G LTE LTE: 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 17, 20, 28, 38 Bands
OK thanks.
OMG why so many models Nokia lol
Puppetmaster81 said:
I bought the Chinese version which comes with 4GB Ram and 64GB Memory (TA-1054) .
Sadly i figured out, that the Chinse Version isn't part of the Android One Program.
It seems like a Nokia specialized playstore Custom Rom.
Further im missing the "ZEISS" Brand, which could mean, the Lense was produced by someone else.
But that's just a guess.
Edit: I just realized, that the Display comes with just 320ppi instead of 403ppi
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It' not true, it has the same ppi (401). the only things that change between ta-1054 and others are the android 7.1.1 and frequency bands.
edit: ta-1054 hasn't zeiss lens
Check on Kimovil, i can't post links now
badbob001 said:
I just got my TA-1045 from walmart. Despite the website saying 4GB, the box itself says 3/32. In settings, it says total memory is 2.9GB.
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Can you please take a picture of the bands? Maybe it's same as B&H model so 1045 is 3GB dual SIM US model.
nachum37 said:
Is possible now to pre-order the 3GB from B&H but without model name, with this specs:
GSM 2G GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
GSM 3G/3.5G UMTS: 850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz
4G LTE LTE: 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 17, 20, 28, 38 Bands
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I'm found this answers:
https://www.amazon.com/ask/questions/TxULKW3SZ6SOA9/?source=allQuestionsPage
https://www.amazon.com/ask/questions/Tx1BBIFU68UTRL4/?source=allQuestionsPage
So yes, the 1045 is 3GB Dual sim US Model.
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1016 is the 3GB single sim US Model:
https://nokiapoweruser.com/ta-1016-ta-1045-us-bound-nokia-7-6-2018-variants-appear-fcc/
https://nokiapoweruser.com/nokia-6-...045-confirm-geekbench-canadian-certification/
The bands are need to be like 1045.
1050 it's EU / Global 3GB Dual SIM(?) model.
http://phonedb.net/index.php?m=devi...l_sim_td-lte_32gb__new_nokia_6__hmd_nokia_6.1
https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-nokia-6-2018-eu#device-profile
https://www.mobosdata.com/nokia-6-2018-ta-1050
The bands are:
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900
WCDMA: 850, 900, 1900, 2100
LTE: 700, 800, 850, 900, 1700, 1800, 1900, 2100, 2600
TD-LTE: 2300, 2500, 2600
TA-1043 is 3GB Dual SIM model for Russia, Middle East & Asia.
https://m.gsmarena.com/new_nokia_devices__ta1043_and_ta1046_get_certified_in_russia-news-29507.php
https://www.lowyat.net/2018/158422/...oming-to-malaysia-including-the-nokia-7-plus/
https://4pda.ru/devdb/nokia_6_2018
Bands:
GSM (850, 900, 1800, 1900), LTE (700, 800, 850, 900, 1800, 2100, 2600), UMTS (850, 900, 1900, 2100)
1089 is the India 3GB Dual SIM.
https://nokiapoweruser.com/nokia-6-...o-with-april-security-update-list-of-markets/
https://www.onlymobiles.com/mobile/new-nokia-6-2018/2456/black-copper
Bands:
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz
3G/WCDMA 900 / 1900 / 2100 MHz
4G/LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600 / 2300 MHz (B40)

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