Besides from Zone related releases, What are the differences on F/W?
I saw that roms and F/w are model depend on the model? And you cannot flash roms for 6503 for 6502 ?
My phone is a 6502 so just want to make sure!
The only thing that I know is c6503 and c6506 works on 4G networks LTE
But c6502 is not a 4G compatible...
I know also that c6506 is much more expensive and not available widely in every country... But why? We will see other's response
Sent from my C6502 using xda app-developers app
There's two differences between the C6502, C6503, and C6506. What network frequencies they support is the main difference, with the second difference being that the C6502 has a barometer and the C6503 and C6506 don't.
C6502: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),
1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
C6503: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
LTE Band I, Band III, Band V, Band VII, Band VIII and Band XX
C6506: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),
1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
LTE Band I, Band II, Band IV, Band V and Band XVII
In terms of price, the C6506 is about the same as the C6503 in america, whereas the C6502 is about $50 cheaper, the reason being that the other two have LTE, which presumably costs more to implement what with licensing fees and whatnot.
Now, the main reason you can't flash C650* specific firmware is because, as far as I know, each phone has a different chip for network radios, plus the C6502 has a barometer.
I am currently using the latest firmware 10.3.1.A.0.244 that I downloaded from cad yesterday which was c6503 specific and flashed it on my c6502. Everything works like a charm
Sent from my C6503 using xda premium
TheTofu said:
There's two differences between the C6502, C6503, and C6506. What network frequencies they support is the main difference, with the second difference being that the C6502 has a barometer and the C6503 and C6506 don't.
C6502: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),
1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900
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I got the C6502 and it doesnt have barometer. I used service test--->Pressure Sensor: "this device does not support the function"
Enomine said:
I got the C6502 and it doesnt have barometer. I used service test--->Pressure Sensor: "this device does not support the function"
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I agree. C6502 Doesn't have a Barometer.
Query on Sonymobile Forum support says it was a mistake in printing:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z-ZL-ZR/Xperia-zl-No-pressure-sensor/td-p/313008
It was in white papers C6502, by pressure sensor i mean barometer. Its even listed in all major shoppin sites as well as sites like gsmarena.
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Ah, I understand. Unfortunately there was a mistake in the White Paper for Xperia ZL. It doesn't have a pressure sensor/barometer. The information should be updated in the WP soon.
droidvijayan said:
I agree. C6502 Doesn't have a Barometer.
Query on Sonymobile Forum support says it was a mistake in printing:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z-ZL-ZR/Xperia-zl-No-pressure-sensor/td-p/313008
It was in white papers C6502, by pressure sensor i mean barometer. Its even listed in all major shoppin sites as well as sites like gsmarena.
Reply:
Ah, I understand. Unfortunately there was a mistake in the White Paper for Xperia ZL. It doesn't have a pressure sensor/barometer. The information should be updated in the WP soon.
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on gsm arena it says on 6502 ha barometer
bhavstech said:
on gsm arena it says on 6502 ha barometer
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Infact, Sony Xperia ZL(C6502) sold in India, doesn't even have LTE Network capability, as Marketed by Sony in Sonymobile India website.
Something seriously wrong by SONY in providing the phone specifications. We are kind of cheated by this.
http://www.sonymobile.com/in/products/phones/xperia-zl/specifications/#tabs
I have also attached the snapshot of the Xperia ZL India Website. Here is the snip.
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Memory
RAM: 2GB
Flash memory: Up to 16 GB
Expansion slot: microSD™ card, up to 32 GB
Networks
UMTS HSPA+ (Bands 1, 5, 8 or bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 8) *
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20 or bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 17)* <=========================LTE
----------------<end>---------------------------------
Indian Variant of Sony Xperia ZL has only, GSM/WCDMA only. No LTE.
droidvijayan said:
Infact, Sony Xperia ZL(C6502) sold in India, doesn't even have LTE Network capability, as Marketed by Sony in Sonymobile India website.
Something seriously wrong by SONY in providing the phone specifications. We are kind of cheated by this.
http://www.sonymobile.com/in/products/phones/xperia-zl/specifications/#tabs
I have also attached the snapshot of the Xperia ZL India Website. Here is the snip.
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Memory
RAM: 2GB
Flash memory: Up to 16 GB
Expansion slot: microSD™ card, up to 32 GB
Networks
UMTS HSPA+ (Bands 1, 5, 8 or bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 8) *
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20 or bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 17)* <=========================LTE
----------------<end>---------------------------------
Indian Variant of Sony Xperia ZL has only, GSM/WCDMA only. No LTE.
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You need to learn to read the fine print my friend, or else life will bite you in the ass over and over and over...
Here's the networks listed on the site:
Networks
UMTS HSPA+ (Bands 1, 5, 8 or bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 8) * < --- Notice the asterisk
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20 or bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 17)* < --- Notice the asterisk
Here is the fine print located DIRECTLY under the network info:
* This service is not available in all markets.
It's not very obvious, but thats the whole point of fine print.
6506 to 6503
I have a 6506 model that I bought in Canada, but I live in Brazil now.
What I want to know is:
- It's possible to use the 6503 firmware to have the 2600Mhz frequency?
Or this is something in the hardware?
droidvijayan said:
I agree. C6502 Doesn't have a Barometer.
Query on Sonymobile Forum support says it was a mistake in printing:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z-ZL-ZR/Xperia-zl-No-pressure-sensor/td-p/313008
It was in white papers C6502, by pressure sensor i mean barometer. Its even listed in all major shoppin sites as well as sites like gsmarena.
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Ah, I understand. Unfortunately there was a mistake in the White Paper for Xperia ZL. It doesn't have a pressure sensor/barometer. The information should be updated in the WP soon.
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I can agree with this too, it doesn't have a barometer
TheTofu said:
There's two differences between the C6502, C6503, and C6506. What network frequencies they support is the main difference, with the second difference being that the C6502 has a barometer and the C6503 and C6506 don't.
Now, the main reason you can't flash C650* specific firmware is because, as far as I know, each phone has a different chip for network radios, plus the C6502 has a barometer.
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Old, old post. I was looking for the bands for every ZL and found this post. Caught my eye that you say C6502 has a barometer. I have a C6502, and it does not have one. I have checked several sites that list C6502 with a barometer, but in fact, it does not have it. Or maybe all this time I had it and I don't where it is!!!!
Found out, I already posted saying the same thing! please delete this post?
Related
In the development thread DooMLoRD mentioned that the phone comes in two versions. There seems to be confilicting info about this. I have seen sites say it is quad band HSDPA and there is not 2 different models and only the lt26i. I would like to import to the USA and use on ATT 3g. It looks like the lt26i will work on att 3g. Below is the info listed in the development section of the site.
Model number:
The Xperia S has model number as LT26 and has two models LT26i and LT26a. They differ in the spectrum of frequencies supported for 3G/WCDMA http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_s-4369.php
LT26i - HSDPA 900 / 2100
LT26a - HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
The items passing the fcc was the LT26i and it was listed at quad band UMTS/HSDPA
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...alledFromFrame=N&application_id=917709&fcc_id
It is also mentioned in this engadget article
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/27/sony-xperia-s-jogs-past-the-fcc-carrying-plenty-of-atandt-t-mobi/
I've pre-ordered the Xperia S LT26i from here. If you scroll down a bit and switch to the specification tab you'll see this:
GSM/GPRS Yes
Frequencies 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
Speed GPRS up to 86kbps, EDGE up to 237 kbps
3G/HSPA Yes
Frequencies 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
Speed HSDPA Up to 14.4Mbps, HSUPA Up to 5.8Mbps
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It seems like it supports both frequencies... It'll surly work in Europe right? I live in Israel using Cellcom, I hope it'll work fine.
I am wondering the same thing too!
I live in Canada and I want to get this phone but I know Canada will be the last to get it.
Is the ' i ' version going to work for me in Canada?
Please help!
Thank you.
check the Xperia S whitepaper
http://dl-www.sonymobile.com/cws/download/1/105/035/2/1327908899/Xperia_S_WP_2.pdf
"LT26i UMTS HSPA 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II),
2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900"
so it's safe to say there is going to be only one version?
if so, I will order my Xperia S and start using it in Canada!!
From what I have seen for the last three months, only one version which is quad band. Today I ordered one from ebay shipping from Hong Kong and I should be receiving it next week sometimes around Thursday. I will report back once I have it.
EDIT:
for people interested, this is the place I ordered it from http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sony-Ericsson-Xperia-S-LT26i-Unlocked-12mp-32GB-Android-Phone-White?item=150770279921&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m185&_trkparms=algo%3DRPSI%252BSIC.NPJS%26itu%3DUCP%252BUA%252BMAGEXP%252BI%26otn%3D12%26pmod%3D190644185862%26po%3DLPV%252BLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D6745036511139896139#ht_3032wt_1396
wing_zero8556 said:
check the Xperia S whitepaper
http://dl-www.sonymobile.com/cws/download/1/105/035/2/1327908899/Xperia_S_WP_2.pdf
"LT26i UMTS HSPA 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II),
2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900"
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This.
White paper clearly states HSPA 850/1900 is included. And FWIW GSMArena corrected the specifications page to reflect this http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_s-4369.php
LaughinGoh said:
so it's safe to say there is going to be only one version?
if so, I will order my Xperia S and start using it in Canada!!
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I have ordered one from Clove in the UK. It should be shipped Mon or Tue.
I will report back once I either trim down my SIM card or buy a micro SIM.
I am on Telus now running an unlocked generic Xperia Arc.
Cheers
I can confirm it is a quad band. It supports UMTS/HSPA Bands 1/2/5/8. See screenshot from my service menu.
PS: the phone is unbelievably awesome.
I know this thread is old.. but my xperia s only gets edge internet conection..! D: No 3g at all! I'm in Bolivia btw. With "a" versions of other xperia phones I was able to get 3g internet connection.. why is this happening?
The 'a' and the'i' signify different versions of Baseband. The baseband determines which 3g network you connect to ! Make sure you pick up the right instrument otherwise you wont be able to connect to 3G. Google "3G baseband" + your Country and then see which model, the a or the i supports that baseband Wrong baseband => No 3g
Hey guys!
Does anyone have a link for me where produkt numbers and variants are explained?
I'm a bit confused about the different numbers like 6603 and so on...
Thank you!
660x means xperia Z, 6603 is version which has 3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 2100 - C6603
sturmtruppler said:
Hey guys!
Does anyone have a link for me where produkt numbers and variants are explained?
I'm a bit confused about the different numbers like 6603 and so on...
Thank you!
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Look in this thread. Should answer your question.
Sent from my Sony Xperia™ Z
sturmtruppler said:
Hey guys!
Does anyone have a link for me where produkt numbers and variants are explained?
I'm a bit confused about the different numbers like 6603 and so on...
Thank you!
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Here is what you want
Sony Xperia ZL (C650X) Network Support
C6502/L35H
UMTS HSPA+: 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE: 850, 900, 1800, 1900
C6503
UMTS HSPA+: 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE: 850, 900, 1800, 1900
LTE: Band I, Band III, Band V, Band VII, Band VIII and Band XX
C6506
UMTS HSPA+: 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I)
GSM GPRS/EDGE: 850, 900, 1800, 1900
LTE: Band I, Band II, Band IV, Band V and Band XVII
darcyhebe said:
Details information, thank you.
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Sorry for some reason the link I tried to post didn't come through in my reply
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I see that the T-Mobile LTE version is available in the US on the play store. It is significantly cheaper than in the UK.
I bought the v1 WiFi nexus 7 in the US and had no issues. If I buy the LTE version from the US can I assume that I can use it on a UK mobile network without issue? I presume both are gsm and there is no issue?
Thanks
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4
aidanbree said:
If I buy the LTE version from the US can I assume that I can use it on a UK mobile network without issue? I presume both are gsm and there is no issue?
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Even GSM networks operate on different frequencies on different continents. LTE networks may have other frequencies than GSM networks.
I found a (german) comparisation list for LTE frequencies. For US, there are 700, 1700, 1900 and 2100 MHz listed; for UK there are 800, 1800 and 2600 MHz noted.
So, if you buy an US version, it will be useless in UK. Besides the useability, you may have to pay taxes on import, additional to p&p. Will it still be cheaper then?
HSishi said:
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For US, there are 700, 1700, 1900 and 2100 MHz listed; for UK there are 800, 1800 and 2600 MHz noted.
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For France, same frequencies than UK.
We will use someday 700 MHz also.
Some of us are waitin 4 an Euro LTE Nexus 7.
I found something about the Nexus 7 ... on http://www.google.com/nexus/7/ .
Scroll down until you see a link "Tech Specs". Open it and scroll a bit down; all GSM, UMTS and LTE frequencies are listed for different world areas.
The US and the EU version share most LTE frequency cpabilities, but the US version can operate on 700 and 750 MHz (which the EU device can't use) while the EU one can operate on 800 and 2600 MHz (which the US device can't use).
So it depends on your carrier's frequencies if you can operate an US device in UK or not.
HSishi said:
I found something about the Nexus 7 ... on http://www.google.com/nexus/7/ .
Scroll down until you see a link "Tech Specs". Open it and scroll a bit down; all GSM, UMTS and LTE frequencies are listed for different world areas.
The US and the EU version share most LTE frequency cpabilities, but the US version can operate on 700 and 750 MHz (which the EU device can't use) while the EU one can operate on 800 and 2600 MHz (which the US device can't use).
So it depends on your carrier's frequencies if you can operate an US device in UK or not.
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My brother is over in the US next week and could therefore bring it back without P&P and most likely other charges.
In the UK the price is 320 GBP so the saving is around 100GBP with the currency conversion.
Currently I have my mobile with T-Mobile and a sim that I use in a mifi on Three. I am looking to move the Three mifi sim into the Nexus but I don't think that looks like it would work as it states they will use 800 and 1800. I presume that both frequencies are used?
The US device can't use the 800 MHz band, but the 1800. Maybe your carrier operates LTE at 1800, maybe not. Can't say that from here (Germany).
Going to take a chance. The US price for the LTE is cheaper than the WiFi only in the UK. Will advise how I get on
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 4
Same here Czech rep, 32 gb lte is the same price than 16 gb wifi here. But i need the 3G/4G internet can't risk it i must know
Aidenbree: this is exactly what i was thinking of doing too, so thanks for asking the question! I'm also on Three and would be really interested to hear how you get on. £100 saving is worth thinking about!
are they have different hardware ?
North America:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA+: 850/900/1900/1700/2100 (AWS) MHz (Bands: 1/2/4/5/8)
LTE: 700/750/850/1700/1800/1900/2100 MHZ (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/13/17)
Europe:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA+: 850/900/1900/1700/2100 (AWS) MHz (Bands: 1/2/4/5/8)
LTE: 800/850/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 MHz (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/20)
or only radio software different?
if they just use different radio, it may work by change radio
ygvuhb said:
are they have different hardware ?
North America:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA+: 850/900/1900/1700/2100 (AWS) MHz (Bands: 1/2/4/5/8)
LTE: 700/750/850/1700/1800/1900/2100 MHZ (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/13/17)
Europe:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA+: 850/900/1900/1700/2100 (AWS) MHz (Bands: 1/2/4/5/8)
LTE: 800/850/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 MHz (Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/20)
or only radio software different?
if they just use different radio, it may work by change radio
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Surprisingly, the radio software is the same, in fact everything software wise is identical between both devices, there is but a single firmware for both devices. I am not even sure if the US version can't technically use band 7 and vice/versa, has anyone tried to connect to a LTE network in the EU using a US LTE Nexus 7 ? Maybe those specs are just "limited" to comply with FCC/EU regulations/certifications (Paying for the CE certification for a specific frequency can be expensive)
If there is a difference then some flag must be set hardware wise to tell the radio what frequencies it can tune to.
mathieulh said:
Surprisingly, the radio software is the same, in fact everything software wise is identical between both devices, there is but a single firmware for both devices. I am not even sure if the US version can't technically use band 7 and vice/versa, has anyone tried to connect to a LTE network in the EU using a US LTE Nexus 7 ? Maybe those specs are just "limited" to comply with FCC/EU regulations/certifications (Paying for the CE certification for a specific frequency can be expensive)
If there is a difference then some flag must be set hardware wise to tell the radio what frequencies it can tune to.
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omg
the radio is the same
seem they fix the band though hardware
any chance the software detect the mobile services provider to decide using which band
Newbie question.
Just ordered the c6506 ZL unlocked. I'm using still my HSPA+ xperia play on ATT. will HSPA work on my new phone? Or do I need to upgrade to LTE4g?
thanks
According to gsmarena:
ZL C6506 HSDPA bands are 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
ZL C6506 LTE bands are 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
Since AT&T uses bands 850 / 1900 for UMTS/HSPA+, it sounds like you'll be fine.
If you want to take advantage of LTE, you may have to buy a new LTE-capable SIM card from AT&T (in case your current SIM is old or something)
And when you get the phone, make sure there is an appropriate APN entry for your carrier in the settings.
Thanks, i ended upgrading to lte.
Hi,
Any one know the differences between Z5 Premium dual SIM model E6833 and model E6883 ? Same specification, except for TD-LTE.
E6833 have LTE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20
E6883 have LTE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, and TD-LTE 38, 39, 40, 41
So, what's the interest to pickup the E6833?
E6883 is more "international".
Thanks to explain and bring light to my confused brain
one is dualsim and one isnt
the dualsim version cant use the roms nor kernel due to the differences in hardware around the sim and radio.
I understand that if you want a real international version, you should go with E6853 version of this phone. It sports LTE bands 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/20/28. Hope this helps.
Envious_Data said:
one is dualsim and one isnt
the dualsim version cant use the roms nor kernel due to the differences in hardware around the sim and radio.
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both are dual sim; only difference is that 6883 offers TD/LTE bands too.
Both fully compatible with european FDD/LTE bands (B3/B7/B20)
E6833: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II), AWS-1(Band IV), 2100 (Band I) MHz GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20)
E6883: UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II), AWS-1(Band IV), 2100 (Band I) MHz GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, 38, 39, 40, 41)
Sony official white paper: http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/...s/Xperia_Z5_Premium_dual_E6833_E6883_WP_2.pdf
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macbera said:
I understand that if you want a real international version, you should go with E6853 version of this phone. It sports LTE bands 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/20/28. Hope this helps.
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6853 is a single SIM variant
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z5_Premium_E6853_WP_2.pdf
The Duam SIM variant supports additional LTE bands 38,39,40,41 which are for Europe...anyone buying for U.S. usage can buy either one.
gparmar76 said:
The Duam SIM variant supports additional LTE bands 38,39,40,41 which are for Europe...anyone buying for U.S. usage can buy either one.
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European standard LTE bands are: FDD B3/B7/B20
Those bands (B38/B39/B40/B41) are TD LTE bands (no TD coverage at all in Europe)
Envious_Data said:
one is dualsim and one isnt
the dualsim version cant use the roms nor kernel due to the differences in hardware around the sim and radio.
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Sorry can you explain this more, are you saying that the E6883 (Dual Sim) is less likely to be modified? I'm confused, all Android's have ROM's and Kernel's
e6883 and e6833 cat.4 or cat. 6 lte ?
Dear sir,
i want to know if the device support in dual sim premium variante e 6883 lte cat. 4 or lte cat.6 (300mbps download) because there are different specifications on the web.
thanks
dude9946 said:
Sorry can you explain this more, are you saying that the E6883 (Dual Sim) is less likely to be modified? I'm confused, all Android's have ROM's and Kernel's
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I just think he meant you can't use a single sim rom on a dual sim phone and vice versa
do both sim slots on the E6883 connect through 4G or is sim 2 only 2G?