band 7 2600 Supported by i337 and m919 band 7 used in Europe and Canada
The i337 (AT&T model) does the same LTE bands as the T-Mobile model. It only lacks AWS HSPA+ (3G), which the mod in this thread enables. I would have gotten the M919, but T-Mobile doesn't sell the 32GB model, plus AT&T variants are generally cheaper.
No model sold in the US (including the i9505G Google Edition) will do 800 or 2600 MHz. The i337M does though (Rogers Canada). Europe uses completely different LTE frequencies than the US.[/QUOTE] END QUOTE
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Worldwide LTE distribution chart via "en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks"
Freq #
Vodafone Germany Germany 800 20 FDD September 2010 [296][290]
Vodafone Germany Germany 2600 7 FDD August 2013 [297][298][290] Network covers centres of major cities.
M919 Specs ".samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SGH-M919ZWATMB-specs"
Frequencies and Data Type LTE: Bands 1/2/4/5/7/17; HSPA+/UMTS: 850/AWS/1900/2100MHz; GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
I337 Specs "samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SGH-I337ZWAATT-specs"
Frequencies and Data Type LTE: Bands 1/4/7/17; HSPA+/UMTS: 850/1900/2100MHz; GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz
The m919 according to this supports 2 and 5 bands that the i337 does not, i am new to this but as i said i picked this phone for international use aswell and would like to know the truth. But according to my information, Vodaphone in Germany uses to main bands 7 and 20. 7 Being the one that the US variant could receive.
since the I337 is basically the same in Canada, i looked up Bell
Bell :
Bell Canada 1700 4 FDD September 2011 [75][76]
Bell Canada 2600 7 FDD March 2012 [77] available in Kitchener, Waterloo, Cambridge and Toronto for additional bandwidth.
Both 4 and 7 are support by both devices, since 7 is on freq 2600mhz in Canada and is the same I337 as AtnT would it not be right to assume that the phone could get band 7 in europe? It is true that AtnT does not use those bands in the US but that does not mean the phone cannot support them. Furthermore i picked the M919 because of its native AWS support and the 30$ 5GB 4GLTE Tmobile Plan BOYA talk about savings..... I am curious to know if im correct, my research lends me to think I am. Europe uses mostly band 3 and 7! 7 Being the one you want!
Specs for Bells S4
bell.ca/Mobility/Products/Samsung-Galaxy-S4/Specifications.tab
LTE compatibility
700/AWS/850/1900/2100/2600 MHz
HSPA/UMTS compatibility
850/1900/2100 MHz
GPRS/EDGE compatibility
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
They list there LTE in MHz but i believe 2600 IS band 7 which the US variants support. My confusion is that AWS is listed in there LTE part and in the US its under the HSPA part. A little clarification and first hand experience with internation use of US variant S4s would be great for poeple who have trouble getting good information from the other side of the world!!
Worst case tho im sure you can always get texting and calling and stick to Wi-Fi while travelling, but to us super-users, thats like going back to dial up.
Lol why are you copying and pasting my posts? As for your question, AWS is used for LTE on T-Mobile (and in very few areas by AT&T, which is why their devices also do AWS LTE). However, AT&T requests that AWS HSPA+ be disabled on their devices because they only use 850/1900 MHz for HSPA+ and it would only benefit those looking to switch to T-Mobile if they left that 1700 MHz band activated.
Will it work with the LTE bands?
The seller on eBay say's it fully works with AT&T and T-Mobile?
HTC 10h (International version) WILL NOT work on US LTE bands
If you go to this page: htc. com / uk / smartphones / htc-10
scroll to the bottom where the specs are and look under "Network" you will see the differences between the radio bands supported by the International/Asia and the America versions of the phone. The International version DOES NOT support all of the 4G LTE bands used by ATT in the US.
This page shows the LTE bands used in the US by major carriers. phonearena. com / news / Cheat-sheet-which-4G-LTE-bands-do-AT-T-Verizon-T-Mobile-and-Sprint-use-in-the-USA_id77933
LTE band 5 is on both models of the phone, and band 5 is used in some very limited areas of the US, (but not enough to make it worth having a regional only phone at this cost, and the newest LTE uses dual-bands so that technology wouldn't work for you either).
If you live in the US, you absolutely want the US model of this phone if you expect 4G LTE and newer technologies to work for you over a wide area.
Hope this helps someone... I got suckering into ordering an International version off Amazon and it would not work on AT&T 4G LTE in my area (band 2).
Better to order the US version directly from HTC.
Does the opposite work? I mean, does the US version work in Europe or not?
I'm asking because the color I want is only available in the US and I live in Europe.
Eparbal said:
Does the opposite work? I mean, does the US version work in Europe or not?
I'm asking because the color I want is only available in the US and I live in Europe.
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You should check which LTE bands your European carrier is using. Just google it "What LTE band does [your carrier] use in [your country/city]."
The US version supports all LTE bands except 8 (Saudi Arabia) and 32 (no idea where that's used..). en. wikipedia. org / wiki / List_of_LTE_networks
Same Problem
Eparbal said:
Does the opposite work? I mean, does the US version work in Europe or not?
I'm asking because the color I want is only available in the US and I live in Europe.
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Hello, I have the same problem...How you solved it?
If you load the US unlocked on the international phone, you will pickup some LTE bands. I seem to be able to pickup 4/12, but not 2 with Tmobile
meats said:
If you load the US unlocked on the international phone, you will pickup some LTE bands. I seem to be able to pickup 4/12, but not 2 with Tmobile
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Hi I'd like to know if the US unlocked version of the HTC 10 (that you can order by the official HTC USA site) works on the Italian networks: band 3(1800MHz), 7(2600MHz), 20(800MHz);
so if I buy this phone and I do it to ship from America I can use it in Italy with any networks problem or restriction.
I'm very interested to know this, thank you.
Filippo95 said:
Hi I'd like to know if the US unlocked version of the HTC 10 (that you can order by the official HTC USA site) works on the Italian networks: band 3(1800MHz), 7(2600MHz), 20(800MHz);
so if I buy this phone and I do it to ship from America I can use it in Italy with any networks problem or restriction.
I'm very interested to know this, thank you.
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i have htc 10 USA unlocked in italy whit h3g network no problem all works
caxio said:
i have htc 10 USA unlocked in italy whit h3g network no problem all works
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Thank you very much :fingers-crossed:
I'm very happy to know this, I think there are also no problems with the 4g/LTE networks in Italy; I have a few questions if you want to answer me:
Why did you buy the HTC 10 USA version? (and not the Italian too)
Where did you buy it?
Which color is it?
Thanks for the reply
Filippo95 said:
Thank you very much :fingers-crossed:
I'm very happy to know this, I think there are also no problems with the 4g/LTE networks in Italy; I have a few questions if you want to answer me:
Why did you buy the HTC 10 USA version? (and not the Italian too)
Where did you buy it?
Which color is it?
Thanks for the reply
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1 for the price
2 second hand on ebay usa
3 silver black dont sell this color outside USA
caxio said:
1 for the price
2 second hand on ebay usa
3 silver black dont sell this color outside USA
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Thank you very much! You helped me a lot :laugh:
caxio said:
1 for the price
2 second hand on ebay usa
3 silver black dont sell this color outside USA
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Thank you very much! You helped me a lot
greenlifeHTC said:
If you go to this page: htc. com / uk / smartphones / htc-10
scroll to the bottom where the specs are and look under "Network" you will see the differences between the radio bands supported by the International/Asia and the America versions of the phone. The International version DOES NOT support all of the 4G LTE bands used by ATT in the US.
This page shows the LTE bands used in the US by major carriers. phonearena. com / news / Cheat-sheet-which-4G-LTE-bands-do-AT-T-Verizon-T-Mobile-and-Sprint-use-in-the-USA_id77933
LTE band 5 is on both models of the phone, and band 5 is used in some very limited areas of the US, (but not enough to make it worth having a regional only phone at this cost, and the newest LTE uses dual-bands so that technology wouldn't work for you either).
If you live in the US, you absolutely want the US model of this phone if you expect 4G LTE and newer technologies to work for you over a wide area.
Hope this helps someone... I got suckering into ordering an International version off Amazon and it would not work on AT&T 4G LTE in my area (band 2).
Better to order the US version directly from HTC.
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Are you saying the M10H won't work with T-Mobile LTE? Im prepared to S-OFF and install whatever. The vendor listing has the US LTE freqs listed. Is that innacurate?
Listing is here....I'll be so LIVID if its another copy/paste bs item description!
http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eB...ory=9355&pm=1&ds=0&t=1484796620470#ad-image-0
It lists the T-Mobile LTE bands, I did checkUSA
GENERAL
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2 (dual-SIM model only) CDMA 800 / 1900 - USA
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - EMEA HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700(AWS) / 1900 / 2100 - USA
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 28(700), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500) - EMEA
LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 12(700), 13(700), 17(700), 20(800), 28(700), 29(700), 30(2300) - USA
It lists 2,4,12 between LTE band and - USA
mrbox23 said:
Are you saying the M10H won't work with T-Mobile LTE? Im prepared to S-OFF and install whatever. The vendor listing has the US LTE freqs listed. Is that innacurate?
Listing is here....I'll be so LIVID if its another copy/paste bs item description!
http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eB...ory=9355&pm=1&ds=0&t=1484796620470#ad-image-0
It lists the T-Mobile LTE bands, I did checkUSA
GENERAL
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2 (dual-SIM model only) CDMA 800 / 1900 - USA
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - EMEA HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700(AWS) / 1900 / 2100 - USA
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800), 28(700), 38(2600), 40(2300), 41(2500) - EMEA
LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 12(700), 13(700), 17(700), 20(800), 28(700), 29(700), 30(2300) - USA
It lists 2,4,12 between LTE band and - USA
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m10h will not support 2/4/12 unless you convert to US unlocked. I have m10h and am on US unlocked. I seem to pickup 4/12 in some parts of the country, but have yet to see band 2. I'm also skeptical that I get all of band 4, I'm thinking I only get certain frequencies of Band 4.
So which version should I buy to use on AT&T in California?
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m10h will not support 2/4/12 unless you convert to US unlocked. I have m10h and am on US unlocked. I seem to pickup 4/12 in some parts of the country, but have yet to see band 2. I'm also skeptical that I get all of band 4, I'm thinking I only get certain frequencies of Band 4.
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Are you on T-Mobile? Have you used device in Colorado? I have my M10h coming today, I might just keep it with limited LTE and spring for the US Unlocked version from HTC, keeping the M10h as test dummy for my arm64 Debian experiments...
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Are you on T-Mobile? Have you used device in Colorado? I have my M10h coming today, I might just keep it with limited LTE and spring for the US Unlocked version from HTC, keeping the M10h as test dummy for my arm64 Debian experiments...
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Yes, tmob. I have used the device in NC, VA, MD, DC, NJ, and NYC. Only in NC and parts of VA can I not get LTE where I should be.
meats said:
Yes, tmob. I have used the device in NC, VA, MD, DC, NJ, and NYC. Only in NC and parts of VA can I not get LTE where I should be.
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Thanks for the info
Hello. Does the LG K8 prepaid phone come unlocked? domestically or internationally or both or none? Thanks.
The that device is unlocked but it isn't a world phone and it can only be used in the United States. ^Andria
Hi thanks for that reply. But in saying that if it is unlocked and it is used overseas on a 2g or 3g or 4g band that the phone supports it should work?
It's unlocked for use with another U.S. service provider but it can't be used abroad because it doesn't have world phone capability. ^Andria
What I can't figure out is does she mean its domestically unlocked but internationally locked? ( that wouldn't make sense would it?)
Or is she clueless or trying to bs me in how I said about the frequencies?
Lol.
She means it doesnt have the bands that support overseas countries.
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She means it doesnt have the bands that support overseas countries.
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From gsmarena lg k8 bands:
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 2100
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 3(1800), 7(2600), 8(900), 20(800)
In my country we have:
2g: 900/1800
3g: 850/2100
4g: band 3 & 7
So it should work right?
It should
I'm thinking of buying G7+ Dual Sim, however I'm not sure how you check frequencies etc.
I would like to use it on TMobile in USA and also some network in Poland. Will this model work (LTE): LMG710EAW
From LG Site (specs)
2G Network
850(B5)/ 900(B8)/ 1800(B3)/ 1900(B2) MHz
3G Network
WCDMA 850(B5) / 900(B8) / 1900(B2) / 2100(B1) MHz
TD-SCDMA 1900MHz (B39) / 2000MHz (B34)
4G Network - FDD
2100(B1) / 1800(B3) / 850(B5) / 2600(B7) / 900(B8) / 700(B28) MHz
4G Network - TDD
2600(B38) / 1900(B39) / 2300(B40) / 2600(B41) MHz
TMobile USA
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
Can someone please help me figure this out? Will it work in USA?
thanks
shanekm said:
I'm thinking of buying G7+ Dual Sim, however I'm not sure how you check frequencies etc.
I would like to use it on TMobile in USA and also some network in Poland. Will this model work (LTE): LMG710EAW
From LG Site (specs)
2G Network
850(B5)/ 900(B8)/ 1800(B3)/ 1900(B2) MHz
3G Network
WCDMA 850(B5) / 900(B8) / 1900(B2) / 2100(B1) MHz
TD-SCDMA 1900MHz (B39) / 2000MHz (B34)
4G Network - FDD
2100(B1) / 1800(B3) / 850(B5) / 2600(B7) / 900(B8) / 700(B28) MHz
4G Network - TDD
2600(B38) / 1900(B39) / 2300(B40) / 2600(B41) MHz
TMobile USA
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
Can someone please help me figure this out? Will it work in USA?
thanks
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Ignore the LG site.
It only lists bands which are supported DIRECTLY in that region, not the bands the phone supports via hardware.
Where are you buying the phone from? The seller should list the bands on the phone, but all the bands are printed on the box itself.
The phones also say "GSM only no CDMA" but WCDMA bands even work. I don't know if CDMA or WCDMA are the same thing or not.
Keep in mind ONLY the european version (not the EAW) can be rooted right now.
Here are the bands the EAW version supports:
. GSM: 850.900/1800/1900. WCDMA: 850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100. TD-SDMA: 1900/2000. LTE: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B13/B17/B20/B28/B38/B39/B40/B41
Working perfect for me here in Europe.
Falkentyne said:
Ignore the LG site.
It only lists bands which are supported DIRECTLY in that region, not the bands the phone supports via hardware.
Where are you buying the phone from? The seller should list the bands on the phone, but all the bands are printed on the box itself.
The phones also say "GSM only no CDMA" but WCDMA bands even work. I don't know if CDMA or WCDMA are the same thing or not.
Keep in mind ONLY the european version (not the EAW) can be rooted right now.
Here are the bands the EAW version supports:
. GSM: 850.900/1800/1900. WCDMA: 850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100. TD-SDMA: 1900/2000. LTE: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B13/B17/B20/B28/B38/B39/B40/B41
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Does this mean it will or will not work in USA TMobile? https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
I see that table lists:
1900 MHz (Band 2) 4G LTE
1700/2100 MHz (Band 4 and 66) 4G LTE
850 MHz (Band 5) 4G LTE
700 MHz (Band 12) 4G LTE
600 MHz (Band 71) 4G LTE
How do I match this up with those bands you've listed? It looks like Bands 66 and 71 are not supported by phone. Does that mean it will not work?
thanks
shanekm said:
Does this mean it will or will not work in USA TMobile? https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4988
I see that table lists:
1900 MHz (Band 2) 4G LTE
1700/2100 MHz (Band 4 and 66) 4G LTE
850 MHz (Band 5) 4G LTE
700 MHz (Band 12) 4G LTE
600 MHz (Band 71) 4G LTE
How do I match this up with those bands you've listed? It looks like Bands 66 and 71 are not supported by phone. Does that mean it will not work?
thanks
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I answered this question earlier in your other post. Remember I own this phone on tmobile.
No one uses band 66 or 71 from what i've seen anywhere.
Tmobile uses band 4, 2 in some areas, or 12. At least from what I've seen.
You're overanalyzing things now.
I've tested the bands in the service menu.
Why don't you call t-mobile and ask them if they use a strange band like 66 in your area? I've never heard of that before.
Falkentyne said:
Ignore the LG site.
It only lists bands which are supported DIRECTLY in that region, not the bands the phone supports via hardware.
Where are you buying the phone from? The seller should list the bands on the phone, but all the bands are printed on the box itself.
The phones also say "GSM only no CDMA" but WCDMA bands even work. I don't know if CDMA or WCDMA are the same thing or not.
Keep in mind ONLY the european version (not the EAW) can be rooted right now.
Here are the bands the EAW version supports:
. GSM: 850.900/1800/1900. WCDMA: 850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100. TD-SDMA: 1900/2000. LTE: B1/B2/B3/B4/B5/B7/B8/B12/B13/B17/B20/B28/B38/B39/B40/B41
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Does the LMG710EAW really support both bands 7 and 20? My research turned up that it supported band 7 (2600mhz) but not band 20 (800 mhz) or is this just due to them only listings bands from that region?
I ordered one without maybe doing my due diligence and Vodafone UK for 4G is bands 7 and 20
I have both LMG710EAW and LMG710ULM in hands, LMG710EAW doesn't seem to support B20, as in the parking area I get 4G on ULM but not with EAW.
But it's strange as today I had a look on the original packing of ULM, it's written with B20 support???
Also from LG site, FDD 4G Networks, without B20: 2100(B1) / 1800(B3) / 850(B5) / 2600(B7) / 900(B8) / 700(B28) MHz
https://www.lg.com/hk_en/mobile-phone/lg-LMG710EAW-128GB