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I got this phone mostly because the hardware specs were top notch and my old Zenfone 2 (Z00A) had amazing CM support and even an official bootloader unlock. The ZS570KL still has yet to get so much as a root. Going from CM to the bloated, ugly stock ROM hasn't been fun and I can't wait to get something better. I've prodded ASUS for info on a bootloader unlock and they have basically just said that they can't comment on a release date, or if it's even coming at all.
Is there any active development for this phone or is it just dead?
it's active, but what you see here, is all answered questions that we ask already, so there isn't much we can do , until we get from asus. And then alert every develop out there to start making custom roms for this phone.
I think many people like myself are waiting on the bootloader unlock before buying. If they are going to release it, it better be soon. Else they risk newer phones coming out that trump the specs of this phone that ARE developer friendly. This ship had almost sailed to be honest. What are they waiting for?
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This ship had almost sailed to be honest.
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Yeah, I'm almost regretting buying it to be honest. I really expected it to be popular in the dev community especially given ASUS' history and that bootloader unlocks are already available for the non deluxe ZF3 and even the ZS550KL. The LG V20, the other phone I was heavily considering waiting for, came out almost a month after this phone already has some ROMs coming out.
This phone has amazing specs and design but is just let down so much by terrible firmware and a completely dead dev community. It's a shame.
Your absolutely correct. Such a shame that a beast of a phone goes quietly in the night. It would've been such an upgrade from my Nexus 6P.
My wild guess is that Asus will release our unlock around April-June when phones are starting to come out with the next snapdragon chipset and 6gig ram is all over the market. At that time, the qualities that make this special will be gone. I don't understand this logic at all.
I really like this phone but all the ways Asus tried to kill its success boggles my mind. The lack of an official bootloader when all their other models have one is just another nail in the coffin of an otherwise really good phone. I thought Asus had learned their lesson... guess not.
The 3 biggest reasons for failure in the dev community:
1. No Bootloader (yet)
2. Price
3. Availability
Its dumbfounding. Such a beautiful phone with amazing specs and Asus care absolutely zero about marketing this phone outside Asia. I had to buy it online because they decided not sell it in Canada. And even online the availability is limited to Taiwan only with every reseller getting it from there in short supply. I don't even think there is a north american model. Why not have faith in your brand? Asus said they didn't think the deluxe would do well in north america with all the competition so they abandoned it. They also thought the phone would not sell because its too expensive but then realized demand for it exceeded the supply and decided to increase production.
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Its dumbfounding. Such a beautiful phone with amazing specs and Asus care absolutely zero about marketing this phone outside Asia. I had to buy it online because they decided not sell it in Canada. And even online the availability is limited to Taiwan only with every reseller getting it from there in short supply. I don't even think there is a north american model. Why not have faith in your brand? Asus said they didn't think the deluxe would do well in north america with all the competition so they abandoned it. They also thought the phone would not sell because its too expensive but then realized demand for it exceeded the supply and decided to increase production.
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Seems like a surefire recipe for failure to me....
I have the SD821 versian, I had to pay through the teeth to get it then when it gets shown to others thet all want to know where to get it and how much it cost. Word of mouth is a great way to do business but the product MUST be available.
I had the subforum tab open to check up on this later, but I'm updating some software right now and noticed this post title... I still have the phone unopened in the box Amazon shipped it in. I guess this is Asus' loss releasing a phone during the only extended return period of the year. I've read a few negatives on the ZF3 Deluxe like low headphone volume and intermittent Bluetooth, but unlocking is what I want.
Since I have until the end of next month to return it to Amazon I figured I would pick up the OnePlus 3T and give it a try - free 15 day return period. I thought, what the heck - I paid more for the ZF3 so why not get the 128GB 3T? Added it to my cart and on the checkout page it gave an estimated date (was within 9 days). I wanted to see what I said the ETA would be on the 64GB model that was listed as shipping within 3 weeks and removed the 128GB model. Went to add the 128GB model back in less than a minute after checking the 64GB model...sold out and it's been like for the last 2 weeks. Talk about frustrating! I ended up ordering the 64GB model and figure I can just send it back to OnePlus when the 128GB's are back in but I'm afraid they still won't be available to order at the end of January. So here is this ZF3 D I don't think I really want. :/
jsheradin, you said the bootloader is unlocked for the other ZF3 models - any idea why not this version of the Deluxe?
If it made any sense, there would be no doubt Asus wanted the ZF3 to fail.
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jsheradin, you said the bootloader is unlocked for the other ZF3 models - any idea why not this version of the Deluxe?
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Yep, the unlock is available for everything but the 820 and 821 variants. I assume it's simply that these processors require a little more work to make an unlock utility for, but I'm just guessing at that point.
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Yep, the unlock is available for everything but the 820 and 821 variants. I assume it's simply that these processors require a little more work to make an unlock utility for, but I'm just guessing at that point.
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Actually, the Deluxe 5.5" (ZS550kl) screen has an SD820 and it has the bootloader unlock app. It's just the 5.7" ones that don't.
If I had the SD820 in the 5.7" variant I might try to unlock but I have the SD821...
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Actually, the Deluxe 5.5" (ZS550kl) screen has an SD820 and it has the bootloader unlock app. It's just the 5.7" ones that don't.
If I had the SD820 in the 5.7" variant I might try to unlock but I have the SD821...
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On Asus site it is said that the zs550kl as a Qualcomm s625 so be careful with what you write...
Sent from my ASUS_Z016D using XDA-Developers mobile app
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Yep, the unlock is available for everything but the 820 and 821 variants. I assume it's simply that these processors require a little more work to make an unlock utility for, but I'm just guessing at that point.
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I love the phone only had it a week but so far i have had only 1 issue with the BT disconnecting from my gear S3. only reason i want to unlock is so i can use titanium backup, if there is a good back up without root please let me know.
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Actually, the Deluxe 5.5" (ZS550kl) screen has an SD820
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It does not. The ZS550KL has a single version and it is a snapdragon 625. It has the same processor as the non deluxe ZF3 (Z3520KL) which came out before the deluxes. They probably already made the unlock for the non deluxe and it required very little work to make it work for the 5.5 deluxe. The 820/821 versions did not have that luck and they likely have to make the unlock from scratch.
Hey, I agree with all on this thread. I have the Zen 2 deluxe SE with Cyangenmod and its a great phone. Purchased the Zen 3 but have yet to use it because I cannot root. I also read that Cyangenmod is no longer offering custom ROM or am I not understanding their changes? Does this mean the chances of a custom rom for Zen 3 is out? I also upgraded my wife's phone (S5) to the same Zen 3 deluxe (ZS570KL / 256gb hd / 6gb ram / 821 chip) and she hates it... calls keep dropping signal is low and it does not even say LTE. I did a speedtest comparison betwen her Zen 3 and my Zen 2 and it was faster. Hers is also disconnecting from cellular (AT&T) data and does not show 4G anymore along with no push notifications of emails.
Anyone else having these issues?
Joining in on the bandwagon to vent (really)... This was my # 1 phone to get in 2016, despite the lack of Quad HD screen (especially for the price), but Asus botched it BIG TIME! The price on the SD821 model, even more frustrating, the lack of availability, even during the holiday season, and of course, now announcing their new 2017 models, with no unlocked BLs or Root... what an opportunity missed! Would have been such a strong jab against the 3T, but they ruined it!
I bugged Asus again via email and received this response, again:
"Temporary we haven't got the accurate time the unlock tool would be released for this ZS570KL.
But we will transfer customers' wishes to the related department for further development.
Also please note that ASUS does not actually asssit with unlocking of the Android Bootloader. I must advise that you do so at your own risk, as once the boot loader is unloked it will void your warranty."
I'm just hoping there is an unofficial unlock at this point. The stock ROM seems to somehow get more buggy and slow day by day. Is anyone else having issues with the screen taking forever to turn on after using fingerprint/pressing the side button?
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I bugged Asus again via email and received this response, again:
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Hey do you mind posting your email so I can send a similar one (I'm not sure what to say ) The squeaky wheel gets the oil after all
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Hey do you mind posting your email so I can send a similar one (I'm not sure what to say ) The squeaky wheel gets the oil after all
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I used this form to submit it: https://vip.asus.com/VIP2/Services/QuestionForm/TechQuery?lang=en-us
I just said, "When can the bootloader unlock utility be expected to be released?"
They responded promptly yet disappointingly. Hopefully if enough of people ask they will finally get around to making/releasing it.
Does anybody know if there is unofficial unlock work being done?
If an unlock is ever made we just need to get someone who knows TWRP to build a recovery and ideally somebody from Lineage OS to start ROM support. I've built TWRP before for a different device and may be able to do the same for this phone but I wouldn't know where to begin to get a ROM working. I feel like no devs even know this device exists. :crying:
I just said, "When can the bootloader unlock utility be expected to be released?"
They responded promptly yet disappointingly. Hopefully if enough of people ask they will finally get around to making/releasing it.
Does anybody know if there is unofficial unlock work being done?
If an unlock is ever made we just need to get someone who knows TWRP to build a recovery and ideally somebody from Lineage OS to start ROM support. I've built TWRP before for a different device and may be able to do the same for this phone but I wouldn't know where to begin to get a ROM working. I feel like no devs even know this device exists. :crying:
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The biggest question we should all ask ourselves... "Why did ASUS build this phone in the first place if they didn't have a bootloader unlocker for it?"
I'm in the US so I'll have to import it. I've seen the places to buy and gearbest says 1 year of repairs. Reviews say they weasel their way out of most things though. Also saw it works on AT&T pretty well. Been comparing a bunch of phones and this one stands out the most, but I couldn't find everything I wanted to know, hoping you guys can help.
1) Is it worth considering gearbest as a warranty or consider it a no warranty purchase?
2) What about safetynet? Will things like netflix work without sideloading if I don't unlock the bootloader? Hulu, Android pay, whatever future bs starts checking it? I use my phone for Netflix plenty.
3) Is there a difference in the eu rom I've seen mentioned and global rom?
4) Assuming I'd want the global phone, do I need to flash it after that for any reason?
5) how clunky is video chat with the front camera location? Does it work well in landscape mode (preferred)?
6) did I miss anything worth knowing? ?
Thanks to whoever answers! Trying to scratch the new phone itch. Might wait to see what drops at mwc.
1) Expect no warranty at all
2) On Global Stable ROM, yes.
3) Yes. Xiaomi.EU is a community ROM based on china dev. Global ROM is an official Xiaomi ROM
4) If you buy a "global" version you don't have to flash it, it comes with global stable preinstalled. It doesn't matter what version you get though, all the same HW wise.
5) You have to turn the phone around, doesn't work in some apps (Snapchat I believe?). In landscape mode it works just as well(or bad?) as a normal front facing camera, what's the actual difference if you hold the device in landscape mode?
6) Buy this beautiful phone..
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I'm in the US so I'll have to import it. I've seen the places to buy and gearbest says 1 year of repairs. Reviews say they weasel their way out of most things though. Also saw it works on AT&T pretty well. Been comparing a bunch of phones and this one stands out the most, but I couldn't find everything I wanted to know, hoping you guys can help.
1) Is it worth considering gearbest as a warranty or consider it a no warranty purchase?
2) What about safetynet? Will things like netflix work without sideloading if I don't unlock the bootloader? Hulu, Android pay, whatever future bs starts checking it? I use my phone for Netflix plenty.
3) Is there a difference in the eu rom I've seen mentioned and global rom?
4) Assuming I'd want the global phone, do I need to flash it after that for any reason?
5) how clunky is video chat with the front camera location? Does it work well in landscape mode (preferred)?
6) did I miss anything worth knowing? ?
Thanks to whoever answers! Trying to scratch the new phone itch. Might wait to see what drops at mwc.
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1 - As good as no warranty.
2 - flash global rom and ur good to go as it has all google services installed.
3 - Yup, global rom is the best
4 - flashing is not a big issue, u just download a file and put it in your phone and use updater app to flash it. No unlocks or tough stuff.
5 - video chat is pretty bad. Not the phone if u do lot of video chats. Front camera on whole is pretty bad to be truthful.
6- Camera should not be ur priority and stay away from this phone if u like stock interface. Other than that this phone is a beauty.
Thank you guys so much you've been really helpful!
Do not buy Xiaomi Mi Mix 2.... Buy the Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S...to be released very very very soon.... all the shortcomings of the Mix 2 fixed plus more! I was on the verge of buying the Mix 2 but then heard of the imminent release of Mix 2S...so hang fire and order the new beauty
Rajinn said:
1) Is it worth considering gearbest as a warranty or consider it a no warranty purchase?
2) What about safetynet? Will things like netflix work without sideloading if I don't unlock the bootloader? Hulu, Android pay, whatever future bs starts checking it? I use my phone for Netflix plenty.
3) Is there a difference in the eu rom I've seen mentioned and global rom?
4) Assuming I'd want the global phone, do I need to flash it after that for any reason?
5) how clunky is video chat with the front camera location? Does it work well in landscape mode (preferred)?
6) did I miss anything worth knowing? ?
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1. No warranty at all, better use aliexpress.
2. In last global development version AP does not work without magisk safetynet fix.
3. Not much
4. Sellers flash global rom as usual.
5. Nice
6. Notification LED is only white
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Do not buy Xiaomi Mi Mix 2.... Buy the Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S...to be released very very very soon.... all the shortcomings of the Mix 2 fixed plus more! I was on the verge of buying the Mix 2 but then heard of the imminent release of Mix 2S...so hang fire and order the new beauty
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I was thinking about waiting until after mwc to pick a phone so that's not a bad idea. Have to see how much the new one costs too, I'm on a budget and have to buy two =/
Does it do screen mirroring?
I tried to unlock bootloader on my Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 pro. I know that, when you try for the first time, you have to wait 360hr, but for some reason I have to wait 1440hr. Does anyone know why? Could it be that I am on MIUI 10 Beta?
It sounds ridiculous...
http://en.miui.com/thread-3696038-2-1.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/9bnwip/xiaomi_in_a_nutshell/
WHAT? Are they out of their minds? I think that 15 days was already unacceptable but 2 months?? This is more than ridiculous. What are their intentions? To make android a bad replica of iOS? They progressively take back the freedoms that we have been enjoying in it. They are bricking our devices for downgrading, they don't authorize accounts for unbricking and they constantly increase the requested time to unlock bootloader. I'm afraid that at some point, which seems to be not that far, Xiaomi will stop being my brand of choice when it comes to smartphones. And that's bad because I'm not interested in buying a device from any other brand.
No wonder, people unlocking their phones and installing custom roms destroys Xiaomi's business model. TechAltar did a nice episode about it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esUOQpKNLsE
I checked this morning and the waiting time went down to 704 hours. I'll keep you updated
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I checked this morning and the waiting time went down to 704 hours. I'll keep you updated
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So one day is equal to 720 hours ???? I think you did some mesh up with your mi account thats why you are seeing 1440 hours to unlock.. keep single mi account in your mobile and bind same account in developer setting
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No wonder, people unlocking their phones and installing custom roms destroys Xiaomi's business model. TechAltar did a nice episode about it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esUOQpKNLsE
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they should attack vendor rom installers then. they are the one replacing ads with crazy intrusive ones not from xiaomi.
as people that know how to use custom ROM, should be savvy enough to disable the default apps, or do ads blocking even witohut root
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So one day is equal to 720 hours ???? I think you did some mesh up with your mi account thats why you are seeing 1440 hours to unlock.. keep single mi account in your mobile and bind same account in developer setting
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I only have one account, I didn't do anything strange. With the same account, since it is the only one I have, I checked again this morning, I have no idea why it went down to 704 hours, but I read that it didn't happen only to me
It's all over the forums, you are not the only one...
http://en.miui.com/thread-3701225-1-1.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/9bmb60/1440_hours_to_unlock_redmi_note_5_bootloader/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/9bnwip/xiaomi_in_a_nutshell/
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It's all over the forums, you are not the only one...
http://en.miui.com/thread-3701225-1-1.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/9bmb60/1440_hours_to_unlock_redmi_note_5_bootloader/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/comments/9bnwip/xiaomi_in_a_nutshell/
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Yes I read, I was talking about the fact that it went down to 700 hours, but also that has happened to others. Honestly I find this ridiculous..
I received my phone today too and after trying to unlock, I got the 720hrs..
I thought the 15 day wait was bad. Xiaomi can stop using the excuse its to stop sellers putting malicious roms on their devices. This is anti consumer and will put devs off the brand which is terrible for everyone even those whos device is already unlocked
It's to keep people using MIUI, while giving the impression that they're open to custom ROM support.
It is definitely 720 hours now.
My first 3/32 model that I gave to my Fiancee was only 360 when I unlocked it (August 10th requested - August 25th unlocked). Now it looks like I'll be waiting until September 30th to unlock this 4/64gb model. *Sigh* Looks like im installing blockada again to fight Xaiomis damn ads, while using MIUI for the next month. I thought using it for 15 days was bad enough. I miss Lineage already... but at least my Fiancee will be happy.
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I miss Lineage already... but at least my Fiancee will be happy.
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what a person doesn't for love?
This will be my last xiaomi. I will buy oneplus or a Pixel.
Inviato dal mio Redmi Note 5 utilizzando Tapatalk
Stupid tutorials like this and youtube tutorials who tell people to unlock your phone send a message to xiaomi that you got fake ROM and want to unlock it to flash original MIUI.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...ne-xiaomi-redmi-note-5-whyred-unlock-t3778049
Yes stupid tutorials like this probably made them to increase time because people send them the message that they got fake rom but they dont have fake rom.
wow this is something new , glad tht i have already unlocked mine. bad move from xiaomi .
This is ridiculous, 360 hours is the enough but I'm also getting 720 hours...
I got 720 hours too. Until then, i have to remove the bloatwares with adb and use nova launcher.
FYI, OnePlus 10 information:...
Earlier than expected: OnePlus says OnePlus 10 Pro is coming in January
OnePlus has revealed that the OnePlus 10 Pro is coming in January, making for a much earlier reveal than previous generations.
www.androidauthority.com
This is the OnePlus 10 Pro, as officially revealed by OnePlus
After months of leaks and speculation, we finally have our first official look at the OnePlus 10 Pro, courtesy of the company itself.
www.androidauthority.com
Confirmed OnePlus 10 Pro specs are here: Check out that charging boost
We now have a list of confirmed OnePlus 10 Pro specs. The list isn't complete, but there's some really interesting stuff in here so far.
www.androidauthority.com
I'm not going to purchase another OnePlus phone. If I wanted ColorOS I'd buy an OPPO. OxygenOS is dead and any claims that the OS lives with the merge of company resources and engineers is just a marketing exercise as it's just Color with an Oxygen theme. Never mind, going to sell my 9 Pro and look at a Pixel I think.
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I'm not going to purchase another OnePlus phone. If I wanted ColorOS I'd buy an OPPO. OxygenOS is dead and any claims that the OS lives with the merge of company resources and engineers is just a marketing exercise as it's just Color with an Oxygen theme. Never mind, going to sell my 9 Pro and look at a Pixel I think.
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yeah I've been a oneplus user for so many years, I swear one of the best devices I've ever had was my 6T, however, this coloros bs and the clear digression from the principle's that brought so many users to oneplus seemed to have taken a backseat to marketing, greed, and nonsense. for so long I was waiting for oneplus to get their camera hardware right so they could compete with the big names, but while that finally happened, they also simply said, 'f*ck the fanbase and long time users, let's merge with oppo and trash oos'. in short, yeah this 9 pro is my last oneplus, in fact, I won't even be updating to oos (coloros) 12, going to stay on 11.2.10.10 until I eventually get a pixel 6/7pro (I still have a bunch of payments to go on this 9pro), in truth, it's sad, really, that things turned out this way.
Agree man, bye oneplus, it was good knowing u for 3,3t, 5, 6,6t, 7pro and 9 pro.
I don't even have the urge to upgrade my 9 pro to stable 12
bye bye oneplus, and good morning g pixel.
Whats all i can say about all upcoming oneplus releases
It's a shame because we all loved the original ethos of OnePlus; the best unlocked hardware at a cheap price and with a near zero bloat OS. Now that we have multiple mid-tier phones, TV and wearable devices, I'm struggling to understand what OnePlus stands for or even why the brand even exists.
Shame, but same as people there, I will not buy another OnePlus phone.
They were good, because 1) had good stock ROM, close to clean Android without tons of bloatware 2) were cheap also
Nowadays they lost both of this qualities.
This is all very sad. I waited so much 10..pro. And now, reading yours messages, I understand that there is no hope. I started using model 6 and now they are taking away what has been with us for so long. Tell me, is it really supposed to be a Google pixel?I understand that I can buy which one I want, but if I look for an alternative to the departed one plus?
Oneplus really disappointed me this time: 5g has never worked, VoLTE doesn't work, the camera and its software are not up to par with other smartphones of similar price, the latest updates have been a disaster.
After buying my 9 PRO (LE2123) I was so disappointed that I thought countless times "why didn't I buy a Find X3 Pro?"
I'm even thinking about going back to Samsung.
I'm sorry to say this, but oneplus has deeply and perhaps hopelessly disappointed me this time.
Oh, guys. If you only knew what's going on with other devices...
I have had Xiaomi devices for years, last one was Poco F3. The software was disaster. Miui is a disaster.
Now I'm really happy owner of OP9Pro. Everything works. Fast.
People, who want GPixel - please think twice and do homework, there is a lot bugs there too.
I don't like Oxygen Os, now, because is f*cked up by Google...
I like Pixel 6 pro design, but with google Os, it's a NO go !
I like Motorola Edge 20. But horror news (the software will be made with google) ! NO !!!
I might buy OnePlus 10 Pro at the end of spring/start of summer from from sales forums., when the price is going down.
I agree with the general sentiment. Lots of devices coming out in 2020/21 had software/hardware problems. I purchased this phone thinking i'm getting a flagship phone with top notch hardware and dedicated software updates but ended up with just another regular phone like the old galaxy i had. So i'm not hoping anything from any future device that may be coming in the next couple of years.
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So we should accept a reduction of quality because other manufacturers are just as bad?
I've seen other OEM's devices and I've done my due diligence. I've owned Google devices in the past and I have no qualms about buying one of their phones again.
OnePlus are currently releasing an updated Android 12 update for Indian and Global devices. Once again, because of GDPR, the EU market is having to wait for this software. OnePlus/OPPO engineers have dropped the ball too many times now and ColorOS is garbage.
I've ran LOS and other ROM's on this device but I've always gone back to using stock with root. OPPO are killing Oxygen and I don't like Color so it's goodbye.
It seems that management are having their say and not accepting what their workers and teams have to say. Whilst the current situation is not ideal we're all living in uncertain times, one thing that history teaches us, is that things can change. I'm not saying that we'll see immediate changes, more that progress is slow and gradual.
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So we should accept a reduction of quality because other manufacturers are just as bad?
I've seen other OEM's devices and I've done my due diligence. I've owned Google devices in the past and I have no qualms about buying one of their phones again.
OnePlus are currently releasing an updated Android 12 update for Indian and Global devices. Once again, because of GDPR, the EU market is having to wait for this software. OnePlus/OPPO engineers have dropped the ball too many times now and ColorOS is garbage.
I've ran LOS and other ROM's on this device but I've always gone back to using stock with root. OPPO are killing Oxygen and I don't like Color so it's goodbye.
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No, you should not accept reduction of quality.
My point is that it is so easy to say " F... OP, I'm switching to ....." .
There are problems with others too. So wait is mandatory.
Wait with switching.
Wait with upgrading.
What about Hasselblad? Will they still be using Hasselblad Cameras?
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....wait is mandatory.
Wait with switching.
Wait with upgrading.
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I've resigned myself to selling it as I've had enough. The phone will go on a auction site in a few days and I'll order a Pixel 6.
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I've resigned myself to selling it as I've had enough. The phone will go on a auction site in a few days and I'll order a Pixel 6.
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The lack of dual sim is what's holding me back from going to the pixel
Had the OP1, OP2, OP7 Pro and currently using the 9 Pro. I tried the latest OOS for a few days and it is bad.
Unless they do some major changes, there is no way Im getting another Oneplus phone.
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So we should accept a reduction of quality because other manufacturers are just as bad?
I've seen other OEM's devices and I've done my due diligence. I've owned Google devices in the past and I have no qualms about buying one of their phones again.
OnePlus are currently releasing an updated Android 12 update for Indian and Global devices. Once again, because of GDPR, the EU market is having to wait for this software. OnePlus/OPPO engineers have dropped the ball too many times now and ColorOS is garbage.
I've ran LOS and other ROM's on this device but I've always gone back to using stock with root. OPPO are killing Oxygen and I don't like Color so it's goodbye.
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yep, remember when OnePlus cost half as much as other flagships with excellent software? I reluctantly gave up my 7 pro for my 9 pro, and I really think the 7 Pro was peak OnePlus
When can we have a perfect Oxygen for the Chinese version Oneplus 11?
I've heard about those bugs caused by transferring to Oxygen 2447/2449/2541. Looking forward to a perfect Oxygen Rom to flash SOOOOOOOOOOOO BADLY!!
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When can we have a perfect Oxygen for the Chinese version Oneplus 11?
I've heard about those bugs caused by transferring to Oxygen 2447/2449/2541. Looking forward to a perfect Oxygen Rom to flash SOOOOOOOOOOOO BADLY!!
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I think oneplus / oppo doesn't want to be operated on the china op 11 oos and will therefore not ensure that it runs clean on the op11
I'm currently on OOS A08 2449 -
1. Brightness bug
2. Battery performance noticeably worse than COS A10
3. Phone randomly shuts off
4. Refresh rate appears to be stuck and adaptive refresh rate not working
5. Fingerprint reader malfunctions occasionally
And more that I can't think of at the moment.
If this continues I'll likely go back to stock COS...
leming0628 said:
I'm currently on OOS A08 2449 -
1. Brightness bug
2. Battery performance noticeably worse than COS A10
3. Phone randomly shuts off
4. Refresh rate appears to be stuck and adaptive refresh rate not working
5. Fingerprint reader malfunctions occasionally
And more that I can't think of at the moment.
If this continues I'll likely go back to stock COS...
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On china op 11is it better to stay on cos
leming0628 said:
I'm currently on OOS A08 2449 -
1. Brightness bug
2. Battery performance noticeably worse than COS A10
3. Phone randomly shuts off
4. Refresh rate appears to be stuck and adaptive refresh rate not working
5. Fingerprint reader malfunctions occasionally
And more that I can't think of at the moment.
If this continues I'll likely go back to stock COS...
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I also ran into the same problem on Oxygen.A08 - 2449.
1. Auto Brightness bug
2. Fingerprint reader malfunctions occasionally
How to fix it?
these issues appeared to be "by design".
i think it's probably better to stick with cos, and find ways to get app's to run in cos similar to in oos.
leming0628 said:
I'm currently on OOS A08 2449 -
1. Brightness bug
2. Battery performance noticeably worse than COS A10
3. Phone randomly shuts off
4. Refresh rate appears to be stuck and adaptive refresh rate not working
5. Fingerprint reader malfunctions occasionally
And more that I can't think of at the moment.
If this continues I'll likely go back to stock COS...
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EU phone 2449 OOS A08:
1. no
2. no
3. no
4. no
5. no
Hildanew said:
EU phone 2449 OOS A08:
1. no
2. no
3. no
4. no
5. no
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Maybe your phone was not Chinese version
jarodlau said:
Maybe your phone was not Chinese version
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EU phone 2449 OOS A08. Chinese version phone is designed for COS, no OOS. they are diffence phones. isnt recommeded flash OOS over COS. if i live in Chine, i buy Chine phone. if i live out of Chine, i buy original OOS. idk what this people doing..
Hildanew said:
EU phone 2449 OOS A08. Chinese version phone is designed for COS, no OOS. they are diffence phones. isnt recommeded flash OOS over COS. if i live in Chine, i buy Chine phone. if i live out of Chine, i buy original OOS. idk what this people doing..
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You must be missing the point of coming to XDA.
1. A lot of people bought the Chinese version because it was launched much earlier in China.
2. It's generally much cheaper to buy a China version
3. There's no local market where I'm from in Australia
lol this is a good one, "missing the point of coming to XDA"
I think Oneplus 11 is just more troublesome with ROM this time due to the fact this is the first phone after OPPO official took over,
Previously with Oneplus, there would not not have much issue flashing to OxygenOS from the china HydrogenOS then ColorOS and is a easier process
It is also quite a norm practice for people to purchase Oneplus from China and just flash OxygenOS to use or those that purchase from aliexpress is also flashed by the seller using China set.
Now after OPPO took over, some backend stuff may have change and we dont know yet what is OPPO takes on flashing domestic Oneplus meant for China to be use in other country.
Dont think anyone should come in here and just say "if i live in china, i buy china phone, if i live out of china, i buy original OOS", to be honest this kind of comment is not helping at all when a lot of people is stuck with their phone not being able to call or they bought the phone with the intention of flashing over to OOS but is held with issue now over OTA update.
Cheers
ChrisFeiveel84 said:
On china op 11is it better to stay on cos
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Does cos have an international version with Google apps preinstalled?
Roongx said:
Dont think anyone should come in here and just say "if i live in china, i buy china phone, if i live out of china, i buy original OOS", to be honest this kind of comment is not helping at all when a lot of people is stuck with their phone not being able to call or they bought the phone with the intention of flashing over to OOS but is held with issue now over OTA update.
Cheers
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It is users fault that they blindly buy a phone not meant for the market, especially when it is theirs only daily device and start doing some random stuff expecting everything will work as intended.
Half of the messages here on XDA OP11 is "omg I bricked my device or did something bad, plz help I have no clue what to do, I was just pressing randomly on the keyboard to make rainbows happen".
Rather than wait and see what can be done with the device by the developers, everybody want to jump on a strange COS/OOS train expecting I really don't know what? Then it turns out some of the stuff doesn't work as it should anyway.
I have a feeling many average people just have this strange and weird urge to do sth with their new phone, even if it does not make any practical sense.
cavist said:
It is users fault that they blindly buy a phone not meant for the market, especially when it is theirs only daily device and start doing some random stuff expecting everything will work as intended.
Half of the messages here on XDA OP11 is "omg I bricked my device or did something bad, plz help I have no clue what to do, I was just pressing randomly on the keyboard to make rainbows happen".
Rather than wait and see what can be done with the device by the developers, everybody want to jump on a strange COS/OOS train expecting I really don't know what? Then it turns out some of the stuff doesn't work as it should anyway.
I have a feeling many average people just have this strange and weird urge to do sth with their new phone, even if it does not make any practical sense.
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Lets say for example your friend who is not verse with xda or phone custom rom, he went ahead and purchased a china imported oneplus 11 because he previously heard oneplus 10 was one of the better device and is cheaper to import from china.
Hearing that the previous gen oneplus can be flashed to oxygenos, do you think it is his fault that he blindly buy a phone?
To be honest, even if you imported the phone from china and use it as it is, it does work as everything it is supposed to be as intended.
i think the big red flag is the region call locked people is facing, without the region call locked, the phone is working exactly as how a android phone should work. no?
If one year ago you imported oneplus 10 from china when it launch, there was no problem with calling except maybe the phone come with coloros.
No one knew that oneplus 11 will get region call locked when it is brought in from china to other country use.
cavist said:
It is users fault that they blindly buy a phone not meant for the market, especially when it is theirs only daily device and start doing some random stuff expecting everything will work as intended.
Half of the messages here on XDA OP11 is "omg I bricked my device or did something bad, plz help I have no clue what to do, I was just pressing randomly on the keyboard to make rainbows happen".
Rather than wait and see what can be done with the device by the developers, everybody want to jump on a strange COS/OOS train expecting I really don't know what? Then it turns out some of the stuff doesn't work as it should anyway.
I have a feeling many average people just have this strange and weird urge to do sth with their new phone, even if it does not make any practical sense.
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The whole point to buy an op is because of its "flashability".
People have problems and then they ask on XDA. That's why XDA was created.
Oneplus 11 is my first Oneplus phone, and by doing all that stuff with locking and software updates, it is my last Oneplus, I will never buy Oneplus again.
Before I bought Oneplus 10pro, Ace Pro, the Chinese version. was able convert rom to Oxygen os without any problem, no SIM lock, Then who would have thought that Oneplus 11 would have this problem?
Roongx said:
Lets say for example your friend who is not verse with xda or phone custom rom, he went ahead and purchased a china imported oneplus 11 because he previously heard oneplus 10 was one of the better device and is cheaper to import from china.
Hearing that the previous gen oneplus can be flashed to oxygenos, do you think it is his fault that he blindly buy a phone?
To be honest, even if you imported the phone from china and use it as it is, it does work as everything it is supposed to be as intended.
i think the big red flag is the region call locked people is facing, without the region call locked, the phone is working exactly as how a android phone should work. no?
If one year ago you imported oneplus 10 from china when it launch, there was no problem with calling except maybe the phone come with coloros.
No one knew that oneplus 11 will get region call locked when it is brought in from china to other country use.
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jinglei207 said:
The whole point to buy an op is because of its "flashability".
People have problems and then they ask on XDA. That's why XDA was created.
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I stand by what I wrote earlier and still think it is a user's fault to buy something in the blind. Nobody promised OP11 will be the same experience so I personally would and will wait for stable tools/guides/ways and software to optionaly change my phone's system in any way. So yes, buying sth and expecting it will be the same, especially having in mind how OP10 development support was and by taking only into consideration what is going on with Oneplus brand under Oppo, then I will repeat that is somebodys fault, inexperience, blind faith etc.
Also not a fan of importing devices from various regions just because they can be speced differently which it turned out its true with the chinese version and call blocking without local activation in cn market.
In my own opinion people are often creating problems themselves and they ask about sth that could have been avoided but of course it's a tik-tok era and everybody are impatient and they would rather start "dont-know-what-Iam-doing" with their phones rather than wait patiently for more feedback from the smart people who can thinker with their phones and release a guide what could or not be done with it.
Hildanew said:
EU phone 2449 OOS A08. Chinese version phone is designed for COS, no OOS. they are diffence phones. isnt recommeded flash OOS over COS. if i live in Chine, i buy Chine phone. if i live out of Chine, i buy original OOS. idk what this people doing..
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Would you able to buy oneplus 11 512GB/12GB in North America? Nobody want to get headaches, there’s always some reason.
jinglei207 said:
The whole point to buy an op is because of its "flashability".
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It was so up until the OP 8T/9. Then the flashability of OnePlus devices instantly dropped to -1.000.