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Shall we get custom roms??????

till now no developer is active and not taking interest on zf2,
my q is shall we get cm or miui type roms for our new girl friend zenfone 2????

slowy77 said:
till now no developer is active and not taking interest on zf2,
my q is shall we get cm or miui type roms for our new girl friend zenfone 2????
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There will be little activity by developers until Asus allows to unlock the bootloader.

rotorto said:
There will be little activity by developers until Asus allows to unlock the bootloader.
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I think Asus is generous.. Maybe we can request it to them by sending email requests on their pages/sites?

With such specs, it would be a shame if ASUS didn't release a way to unlock bootloader!
Did ASUS release unlocked bootloader for any of it's devices?

slowy77 said:
till now no developer is active and not taking interest on zf2,
my q is shall we get cm or miui type roms for our new girl friend zenfone 2????
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I don't know what u call interest but getting rooted system images, and all thats being talked about like DeesTroy waiting for Asus to get his, and Shakalaka and Sorg developing what we have by now. It's pretty difficult to get custom roms without an unlock bootloader or safe strap or boot strap. I guess it's just me but users are getting pretty impatient these days with things that they know nothing about.
slowy77 said:
till now no developer is active and not taking interest on zf2,
my q is shall we get cm or miui type roms for our new girl friend zenfone 2????
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lordpipa said:
I don't know what u call interest but getting rooted system images, and all thats being talked about like DeesTroy waiting for Asus to get his, and Shakalaka and Sorg developing what we have by now. It's pretty difficult to get custom roms without an unlock bootloader or safe strap or boot strap. I guess it's just me but users are getting pretty impatient these days with things that they know nothing about.
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I agree, people need to be a bit more patient and appreciate the time it takes for persons to assist an entire phone community.. In time things will be put in place once the right steps have been allowed...
Be thankful we were able to atleast get root and that's a big thing IMO..

MrKoji said:
I think Asus is generous.. Maybe we can request it to them by sending email requests on their pages/sites?
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so lets star this mission :good:

http://www.xda-developers.com/asus-invites-developers-at-xda-to-special-event/
^^^^ this proves they are hoping some help from xda. Hope they unlock bootloader

when this phone was announced... I WANT IT !!
but now I have OnePlus One, and always have phones where we can make what we want, like Nexus, OPO, etc.... because even this asus phone is ultra powerful, he is locked, and can't install aosp roms .....
Because ASUS not comnunicating about bootloader unlock, i preordered an Elephone P7000 ! i love it too, but prefer the asus specs (but hate the power button on the top, WHY , JUST WHY here on a 5.5" phone)
I hope asus will release the bootloader before 20may, the official selling day of the elephone...
Before that, I already buyed a Motorola RazR, because nice and Motorola promised an unlocked bootloader after a month.... at place of this... they sell a new RazR DEV version with unlocked bootloader not usable on the normal version !!! Since this day, I never buy a phone with a locked one, even the compagny promise this ....
BUT the most important question for me : WHY blocking a Bootloader on an Android Open Source phone ??? it's just a potential BIG money loosing by loosing a rom flasher community ... i know insurance bla bla bla ... but i have android phones since my HTC Desire.... at least 9 Adnroid phones, flashing them more than once every month, and never bricked one .... peaople realy can brick a phone like this and cry with insurance ?.0...

xTremePower said:
when this phone was announced... I WANT IT !!
but now I have OnePlus One, and always have phones where we can make what we want, like Nexus, OPO, etc.... because even this asus phone is ultra powerful, he is locked, and can't install aosp roms .....
Because ASUS not comnunicating about bootloader unlock, i preordered an Elephone P7000 ! i love it too, but prefer the asus specs (but hate the power button on the top, WHY , JUST WHY here on a 5.5" phone)
I hope asus will release the bootloader before 20may, the official selling day of the elephone...
Before that, I already buyed a Motorola RazR, because nice and Motorola promised an unlocked bootloader after a month.... at place of this... they sell a new RazR DEV version with unlocked bootloader not usable on the normal version !!! Since this day, I never buy a phone with a locked one, even the compagny promise this ....
BUT the most important question for me : WHY blocking a Bootloader on an Android Open Source phone ??? it's just a potential BIG money loosing by loosing a rom flasher community ... i know insurance bla bla bla ... but i have android phones since my HTC Desire.... at least 9 Adnroid phones, flashing them more than once every month, and never bricked one .... peaople realy can brick a phone like this and cry with insurance ?.0...
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I don't think the power button on top is a big issue. I never use it. Tap 2 wake and tap 2 sleep solve that issue and also prevents us from a future power button failure.

I use the power button. It's okay.
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slowy77 said:
till now no developer is active and not taking interest on zf2,
my q is shall we get cm or miui type roms for our new girl friend zenfone 2????
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If it is like the Asus me302c tablet which had Intel inside then I wouldn't hold your breath. There was some chatter on some German boards but nothing much was going on.

Expecting a paid BL unlock from taobao.com

today morning I saw a listing in taobao.com , regarding bl unlock for droid turbo 2 , for 75$ , but soon they removed listing ,if its true then we all will be the happiest people in this world , if any one gets the update related to BL unlock for turbo2 then post here

I remember a time where unlocking the bootloader and gaining root was a fun thing to do for those of us who like to tinker. I remember when devs made awesome ROMs for fun (and donations), back before Cyanogen became mainstream. Now to think we have to pay, especially something like $75 to gain full access to our own device... It is sad. But hey, for $20 I'll do it, but no way am I spending $75 unless I get a whole lot of ROM choices.
Sent from my Turbo 2 using Tapatalk.

aneeshmbabu said:
today morning I saw a listing in taobao.com , regarding bl unlock for droid turbo 2 , for 75$ , but soon they removed listing ,if its true then we all will be the happiest people in this world , if any one gets the update related to BL unlock for turbo2 then post here
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Did you made an order before they removed it? If so let us know if it worked.

No unfortunately I missed it waiting to re list .. always searching Unlocked turbo2 .. in taobao..

Once you unlock it, which recovery are you going to use?

don't know

dinkoh said:
Once you unlock it, which recovery are you going to use?
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You would use the moto x force recovery

Exleh said:
I remember a time where unlocking the bootloader and gaining root was a fun thing to do for those of us who like to tinker. I remember when devs made awesome ROMs for fun (and donations), back before Cyanogen became mainstream. Now to think we have to pay, especially something like $75 to gain full access to our own device... It is sad. But hey, for $20 I'll do it, but no way am I spending $75 unless I get a whole lot of ROM choices.
Sent from my Turbo 2 using Tapatalk.
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I completely agree $20 or 25 i would pay but not $75!

$75 is steep, but for the control I just may do it. Of course I'd much rather spend $20-25.

Exleh said:
I remember a time where unlocking the bootloader and gaining root was a fun thing to do for those of us who like to tinker. I remember when devs made awesome ROMs for fun (and donations), back before Cyanogen became mainstream. Now to think we have to pay, especially something like $75 to gain full access to our own device... It is sad. But hey, for $20 I'll do it, but no way am I spending $75 unless I get a whole lot of ROM choices.
Sent from my Turbo 2 using Tapatalk.
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Gaining root or unlocking bootloader was much easier before, less number of devices to make rom for, etc. Now is completely opposite. Unlocking bootlader requires a lot of knowledge now and it's understandable that someone wish to monetize it. Cannot find
I would blame vendors or in this case carriers for locking our own devices. But I also understand why. IMO, solution is what Moto and some others do, offer official unlock with losing warranty. Would be nice to keep warranty but nothing is perfect.

something like this happened 2 years ago, it was a chinese motorola worker who unlocked the phones.

Jaocagomez said:
something like this happened 2 years ago, it was a chinese motorola worker who unlocked the phones.
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Yup this is how I got my xt1080m moto maxx unlocked

Jimmy8881 said:
Yup this is how I got my xt1080m moto maxx unlocked
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ME too but it cost 40 bucks 75 is steep and no roms available yet or ever.

Zeljko1234 said:
Gaining root or unlocking bootloader was much easier before, less number of devices to make rom for, etc. Now is completely opposite. Unlocking bootlader requires a lot of knowledge now and it's understandable that someone wish to monetize it. Cannot find
I would blame vendors or in this case carriers for locking our own devices. But I also understand why. IMO, solution is what Moto and some others do, offer official unlock with losing warranty. Would be nice to keep warranty but nothing is perfect.
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That is very true. But I doubt Moto will be up for fighting with Verizon about that.

Jaocagomez said:
something like this happened 2 years ago, it was a chinese motorola worker who unlocked the phones.
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he didn't unlock the phones, he was distributing the unlock codes from a stolen/pirated data base.

I plan to wait until Sunshine has turbo2 support. Might take a while but its only 25...

during a live chat & twitter @jcase told they will not working on it anytime soon .. no support ,

Exleh said:
That is very true. But I doubt Moto will be up for fighting with Verizon about that.
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Never say never
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_be...unlocks_on_verizon_moto_x_2014-news-16006.php

aneeshmbabu said:
during a live chat & twitter @jcase told they will not working on it anytime soon .. no support ,
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Again, please keep our names out of your "mouth". You do not represent us. We don't discuss future support (as we told you over and over when you were asking about droid turbo 1,you kept submitting the same question FOUR times in our support system).
I have all records of your support tickets, and I have records of your chat (Which you ended up getting banned from).
We wont comment on future device support, and we certainly wont give you insight to our private operations.

jcase said:
Again, please keep our names out of your "mouth". You do not represent us. We don't discuss future support (as we told you over and over when you were asking about droid turbo 1,you kept submitting the same question FOUR times in our support system).
I have all records of your support tickets, and I have records of your chat (Which you ended up getting banned from).
We wont comment on future device support, and we certainly wont give you insight to our private operations.
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Amen. Lol

Stuttering

Hey.
I've been lurking in this section for about a week now, and from what I can see, people mostly have positive things to say about this phone.
I purchased, from eBay, a Hydrogen model and have constant stutters and lag in the UI/animations.
I have continued to experience this after flashing the "unofficial" Cyanogenmod 13 ROM.
Is it just me? Am I doing something wrong? Really love the massive screen on this thing and don't want to have to return it...
Thanks.

naveedxo said:
Hey.
I've been lurking in this section for about a week now, and from what I can see, people mostly have positive things to say about this phone.
I purchased, from eBay, a Hydrogen model and have constant stutters and lag in the UI/animations.
I have continued to experience this after flashing the "unofficial" Cyanogenmod 13 ROM.
Is it just me? Am I doing something wrong? Really love the massive screen on this thing and don't want to have to return it...
Thanks.
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Can't speak for MIUI but the only CM13 versions I don't have that problem are the two earliest ones v2(6-14-16) and v3(7-5-16) from the guy who left us. All later ones have it on my hydrogen... So yeah you are not alone.

Maybe it's that slow Snapdragon 650. You should've bought a Helium.

I bought one of the first Mi Maxes that showed up on ebay right after china oficial release... Couldn't wait for helium...
PM me one of your cores and we'll have seven each... lol

Will Xiaomi block unlocking bootloader forever?

What do you think? Recently, they increased waiting time to 720h...

I think this is bad practice and unfair. I can understand the waiting time as a mean of stopping ressellers from shady stuff. But it's unfair for people already waiting to be changing the damned clock all the time. I just want to get my awesome rn5 rid of MIUI. I got 360h waiting time. No problem, I was ready to wait. Now all of a sudden they double the time? Bad practice for them. How can I be sure that if I wait a month, the day I finally try to unlock I get a year? Not fair. I was a Xiaomi fan but now I will think twice before buying another one...

Oh really sure, so what phone should I buy to 250$?

Well, i think Xiaomi is not only trying to prevent resellers from flashing global roms on chinese market products but also would like the users to get used to their ecosistem, maybe after one month of usage you will not want to change rom anymore, maybe you'll decide that MIUI is not that bad as you imagined before. The MI A2/ MI A2 Lite have unlockable bootloaders via fastboot, you could get one of these if you don't want to wait. Personally i tried the Mi A2 for one month, it's not a bad phone, but suffers of several problems such as battery drain and pretty small community around it. I decided to send it back and get a Note 5 Global (Pro) for around the same price (10 euro less), since the waiting process is not a deal breaker for me.

PreCal24 said:
Well, i think Xiaomi is not only trying to prevent resellers from flashing global roms on chinese market products but also would like the users to get used to their ecosistem, maybe after one month of usage you will not want to change rom anymore, maybe you'll decide that MIUI is not that bad as you imagined before. The MI A2/ MI A2 Lite have unlockable bootloaders via fastboot, you could get one of these if you don't want to wait. Personally i tried the Mi A2 for one month, it's not a bad phone, but suffers of several problems such as battery drain and pretty small community around it. I decided to send it back and get a Note 5 Global (Pro) for around the same price (10 euro less), since the waiting process is not a deal breaker for me.
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If you tell me before I buy a Xiaomi phone - to unlock the bootloader you need to wait 1 month, 2 months ... Whatever" - I can live with that. I will wait the time and unlock, no problem.
What is unacceptable for me is having the waiting timer jump up and down randomly. Unlocking becomes a matter of luck and chance. This is not reasonable.

ALYSKY said:
Oh really sure, so what phone should I buy to 250$?
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Maybe you could buy Asus Zenfone Max Pro series, Nokia 6.1 serises (no free bootloader unlock yet), Oppo K1, Honor 8C (non-rootable), Moto G5s...

1080 hours to wait to unlock the bootloader ?!!

Hi,
I just go this phone for Christmas and I'm trying to root in order to get my apps and everything back, and I know Xiaomi has been annoying with security and put a lock between 72h and 360 (wtf...) but here I got 1080 hours to wait ! I Googled it and couldn't find anyone else with this much time to wait so please reassure me and tell me I'm no the only one ?
I've been looking for a fix for the past two days with no luck, I don't have any access to the play store and I'm stuck with a half chinese, half english semi brick I can't use...
Any help will be appreciated

don’t the hosts of phones obstruct xiaomi make the money
Every account can unlock one device within 30 days.
Maybe you unlocked an device and 30 days didn’t pass.
If this is not your case write to service email about the reason of such delay and share their answer with us.
I can add the feature of being unmanageable and it try to make public all staff you doing on phone.
I guess no one have a way to stop that.
"Дорогие Xiaomi, не мешают ли вам хозяева телефонов, майнить деньги?"

When I first requested unlock of my Mi Max 3, it said I had to wait 720 hours.
After around 360 hours, I was able to unlock.
So I'm not sure what the reason for the reduction in wait time was, perhaps due to me being a Xiaomi user for a couple of years.
I guess you could write to them or try again after a couple of weeks, to see if they've adjusted it for you.

GEoMaNTiK said:
When I first requested unlock of my Mi Max 3, it said I had to wait 720 hours.
After around 360 hours, I was able to unlock.
So I'm not sure what the reason for the reduction in wait time was, perhaps due to me being a Xiaomi user for a couple of years.
I guess you could write to them or try again after a couple of weeks, to see if they've adjusted it for you.
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when I first request unlock it said wait 360hours.
The Xiaomi can change that value with just finger snap in either direction with no announce. (Google:the+thanos+finger+snap)
Hard to predict in what half of universe you will be ) after that.

We should all be thankful we still got to unlock the bootloader...

nijel8 said:
We should all be thankful we still got to unlock the bootloader...
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Not really, Android is Open Source and so if manufacturers want the free software (especially ones like Xiaomi who don't even include Google Play Services in their Chinese ROM's so don't have to pay a cent to Google), they should give back to the community too by making bootloader unlocking fairly easy. It should be a simple option hidden in the dev settings menu at worst.

nijel8 said:
We should all be thankful we still got to unlock the bootloader...
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oh...
I'm thankful to Xiaomi for:
for the best ratio of the hardware/price
for the good battery and the bigger screen.
And please don't tell me I should be happy with locked boot-loader and mess with arb, i already have multiple reason to be not happy with it.

Theseusperse said:
Not really, Android is Open Source and so if manufacturers want the free software (especially ones like Xiaomi who don't even include Google Play Services in their Chinese ROM's so don't have to pay a cent to Google), they should give back to the community too by making bootloader unlocking fairly easy. It should be a simple option hidden in the dev settings menu at worst.
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They should but they don't... Like disable ARB with unlocked bootloader... Next step is disable bootloader unlock...
23+b9mx+xh8m said:
oh...
I'm thankful to Xiaomi for:
for the best ratio of the hardware/price
for the good battery and the bigger screen.
And please don't tell me I should be happy with locked boot-loader and mess with arb, i already have multiple reason to be not happy with it.
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Of course not...
But as long as hardware is cheap and bootloader is unlockable I'll be happy. That's all I need from a phone.