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I updated with global stable 9.5.17 ROM. BL not unlocked. Applied for unlocking done . My doubt is after unlocking, if I flash custom ROMs , will my phone brick ? If I don't flash previous version of miui , any chance to brick. ?
I found more threads here , but I require answer for this only.
just flash latest custom rom thats it dont flash any firmware or stable/beta miui roms
I am on Pixel Experience rom, and want to try another rom. I was on MIUI 10.02 and I unlocked bootloader and installed PE rom. Now I want to try another rom, but am afraid of bricking phone. Is it safe to flash another custom rom? or what?
Egyptiandroid said:
I am on Pixel Experience rom, and want to try another rom. I was on MIUI 10.02 and I unlocked bootloader and installed PE rom. Now I want to try another rom, but am afraid of bricking phone. Is it safe to flash another custom rom? or what?
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Flashing Custom ROMs is safe leaving aside MIUI based custom ROMs.
Go from Oreo to Pie or Pie to Oreo without a doubt in any AOSP or Lineage OS based ROM, but if you ever want to go back to MIUI or any MIUI based ROM just ensure that you install the latest version or the version higher than the one you had previously.
Only the firmware found in MIUI ROM is responsible for bricking. So you can also try firmware-less MIUI ROMs. There are many relevant threads regarding it.
Just do a search.
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RKStyles said:
Flashing Custom ROMs is safe leaving aside MIUI based custom ROMs.
Go from Oreo to Pie or Pie to Oreo without a doubt in any AOSP or Lineage OS based ROM, but if you ever want to go back to MIUI or any MIUI based ROM just ensure that you install the latest version or the version higher than the one you had previously.
Only the firmware found in MIUI ROM is responsible for bricking. So you can also try firmware-less MIUI ROMs. There are many relevant threads regarding it.
Just do a search.
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Ok what are roms that based on miui to avoid them?
It's easy to find by the nomenclature.
Their names include MIUI or a variation of it.
Some are: Revolution OS, MIUI Pro, MIUI Eu, Masik ROM.
Egyptiandroid said:
Ok what are roms that based on miui to avoid them?
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You could try SyberiaOS, Havoc MOD, Bootleggers, Pixel Experience Extended.
Letrix said:
You could try SyberiaOS, Havoc MOD, Bootleggers, Pixel Experience Extended.
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In your opinion which one is the best for the battery drain?
Oero :
U can go for MSM-Extended... Stable , Good battery life too !
Pie :
Liquid Remix
Superior OS
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RKStyles said:
Flashing Custom ROMs is safe leaving aside MIUI based custom ROMs.
Go from Oreo to Pie or Pie to Oreo without a doubt in any AOSP or Lineage OS based ROM, but if you ever want to go back to MIUI or any MIUI based ROM just ensure that you install the latest version or the version higher than the one you had previously.
Only the firmware found in MIUI ROM is responsible for bricking. So you can also try firmware-less MIUI ROMs. There are many relevant threads regarding it.
Just do a search.
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Did u mean that miui based rom can brick my phone ?
Did u sure for that ?
I think the only way to brick it to go from arb4 to arb3 in miui official rom only but the miui based roms i dont think so .... But if u sure about that tell me again ?
Kireto00 said:
Did u mean that miui based rom can brick my phone ?
Did u sure for that ?
I think the only way to brick it to go from arb4 to arb3 in miui official rom only but the miui based roms i dont think so .... But if u sure about that tell me again ?
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I mentioned that you should always install a MIUI build that is of higher version than you previously had to be on the safer side.
After MIUI 9.5.17, ARB protection bumped to ARB4 from ARB3.
So, once you update to any ARB4 version and then make a mistake of installing any MIUI build of ARB3, your device will be bricked.
That's why I mentioned that always ensure that you install the latest build or the build with version higher than the one you had previously installed.
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Egyptiandroid said:
I am on Pixel Experience rom, and want to try another rom. I was on MIUI 10.02 and I unlocked bootloader and installed PE rom. Now I want to try another rom, but am afraid of bricking phone. Is it safe to flash another custom rom? or what?
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for safe flash use pitchblack recovery
you can upgrade and downgrade without brick your device
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I mentioned that you should always install a MIUI build that is of higher version than you previously had to be on the safer side.
After MIUI 9.5.17, ARB protection bumped to ARB4 from ARB3.
So, once you update to any ARB4 version and then make a mistake of installing any MIUI build of ARB3, your device will be bricked.
That's why I mentioned that always ensure that you install the latest build or the build with version higher than the one you had previously installed.
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I believe his question was about custom MIUI roms which have firmware update removed so that risk of bricking is non existent. I believe reading that Masik does not contain firmware, but I'm not sure.
Other than your good explanation about ARB4 vs ARB3, one thing to add: anyone on ARB4 can flash any ARB4 rom since the bootloader checks for anti rollback protection index but not the MIUI version specifically. So any rom starting from Stable v9.5.19 if I remember and Beta 8.7.6 are safe, until ARB5 comes (if it comes, and if it requires ARB5).
RKStyles said:
I mentioned that you should always install a MIUI build that is of higher version than you previously had to be on the safer side.
After MIUI 9.5.17, ARB protection bumped to ARB4 from ARB3.
So, once you update to any ARB4 version and then make a mistake of installing any MIUI build of ARB3, your device will be bricked.
That's why I mentioned that always ensure that you install the latest build or the build with version higher than the one you had previously installed.
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Yes i was missed understanding ..... But i want to say that u can back to any version that had arb4 so you can go back to anyfrimware that has arb4
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abdullah alotaibi said:
for safe flash use pitchblack recovery
you can upgrade and downgrade without brick your device
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Why ? It will be bricked if u go from arb4 to arb3 as normal
abdullah alotaibi said:
for safe flash use pitchblack recovery
you can upgrade and downgrade without brick your device
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I am gonna try this recovery. But do you mean that i can even flash miui official rom without bricking phone?
Kireto00 said:
Did u mean that miui based rom can brick my phone ?
Did u sure for that ?
I think the only way to brick it to go from arb4 to arb3 in miui official rom only but the miui based roms i dont think so .... But if u sure about that tell me again ?
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as long as they tell you in the rom features or installation that doesnt affect ARB or doesnt touch firmware its ok.. but not sure if not all miui based roms have firmeareless. so you need to read rom intructions.
shea83 said:
In your opinion which one is the best for the battery drain?
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PE Extended. Also depends on the Kernel. But nothing like MIUI gives you better battery life.
try mcaosp rom... you won't switch to any other rom ever... best custom pie rom in my opinion. or if wanna go for miui based go for masik x1.7
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In your opinion which one is the best for the battery drain?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...rom-whyred-t3864111/post78150797#post78150797
Kireto00 said:
Yes i was missed understanding ..... But i want to say that u can back to any version that had arb4 so you can go back to anyfrimware that has arb4
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Why ? It will be bricked if u go from arb4 to arb3 as normal
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no not brick ,i am on pitchblack recovery and downgrade full miui rom 9 and work fine , i test it downgrade then upgrade miui10 and switch between dev china stable no problem:laugh:
abdullah alotaibi said:
no not brick ,i am on pitchblack recovery and downgrade full miui rom 9 and work fine , i test it downgrade then upgrade miui10 and switch between dev china stable no problem:laugh:
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You can downgrade to miui 9 arb4 frimwares but if u go to arb3 frinware it will be bricked i am sure of that
Kireto00 said:
You can downgrade to miui 9 arb4 frimwares but if u go to arb3 frinware it will be bricked i am sure of that
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i bricked mi device twice and solve it
i am on arb 4 thats not change.by pitchblack recovery i downgrade to arb3 roms wothout brick am sure and test .in youtobe search pitchblack recovery from arb4 to arb3
arb 4 not change but device not brick its work fine
hi,
I'm on arb3 since whyred switched to arb4. since then I always updated with non arb firmware. right know I'm on non arb pie firmware while having an oreo based rom. I noticed all the talk about new pie based roms and how need pie firmware, while oreo based roms doesn't work with pie. so I got confused because my roms work with orea based. then I read this post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79630538&postcount=1586
now I'm wondering what to do. keep arb3 the way I always had or should I update to a arb4 oreo firmware for a oreo based rom, maybe it will fix my long lasting wifi dc problems.
switch to arb4, i mean we have may 2019. Theres also oreo arb4 firmware out there. Trust me, you will never switch back to Nougat. Go with the progress.
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switch to arb4, i mean we have may 2019. Theres also oreo arb4 firmware out there. Trust me, you will never switch back to Nougat. Go with the progress.
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I switched the moment arb4 came out and never had single issue.. Always laughed at paranoia ridden individuals here avoiding arb4 at all costs lmao.
gohan456 said:
hi,
I'm on arb3 since whyred switched to arb4. since then I always updated with non arb firmware. right know I'm on non arb pie firmware while having an oreo based rom. I noticed all the talk about new pie based roms and how need pie firmware, while oreo based roms doesn't work with pie. so I got confused because my roms work with orea based. then I read this post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79630538&postcount=1586
now I'm wondering what to do. keep arb3 the way I always had or should I update to a arb4 oreo firmware for a oreo based rom, maybe it will fix my long lasting wifi dc problems.
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No use sticking with arb3, it's so outdated now, i litterally have no problems with arb4 fw, for pie based fw, battery backup is probably a bit worse than oreo fw based.
Yeah, you won't have any problem with arb4 unless u want to use few month old roms (which is stupid anyways). Arb4 appeared in 8.7.6 global beta/9.5.19 global stable, so u have high range of roms to choose between.
Alright I switched to arb4 latest stable oreo, now I will check wifi for 1 week and report if it changed something. Phone seems more smooth but could be just a placebo.
With this wifi issue are u sure it's not at ur end? I never had something like this, tho i only use wifi at home.
gohan456 said:
Alright I switched to arb4 latest stable oreo, now I will check wifi for 1 week and report if it changed something. Phone seems more smooth but could be just a placebo.
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Xiaomi has just released a stable pie build for closed test yesterday, you can try it.
So, im tired of Google contacts and calendar...and my Poco F3 came with that pre-installed instead of Xiaomi/MIUI ones.
My question is: can i install via Mi Flashtools the ROM of Mi11i or Mi11x to archieve that?
I have try installing the apk for Miui contacts and dialer but they wont work, wont Open after installing. But the Miui calendar works fine.
Course i love the Miui stock launcher better than POCO launcher too.
Can i do what i say above?! Thanks
sun_is_shinning said:
So, im tired of Google contacts and calendar...and my Poco F3 came with that pre-installed instead of Xiaomi/MIUI ones.
My question is: can i install via Mi Flashtools the ROM of Mi11i or Mi11x to archieve that?
I have try installing the apk for Miui contacts and dialer but they wont work, wont Open after installing. But the Miui calendar works fine.
Course i love the Miui stock launcher better than POCO launcher too.
Can i do what i say above?! Thanks
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I suggest you unlock your bootloader and Flash a xiaomi.eu Rom(Lots of videos on YouTube FYI) via TWRP . It has MI Dialer and Contacts. Don't flash Stock ROM of other regions or sub brands.
Animesh Singh said:
I suggest you unlock your bootloader and Flash a xiaomi.eu Rom(Lots of videos on YouTube FYI) via TWRP . It has MI Dialer and Contacts. Don't flash Stock ROM of other regions or sub brands.
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I suggest flashing China ROM directly instead... Miui.eu is unstable garbage , feels like a bad custom ROM with all of it's FPS drops and random lag spikes.
I tried China developer build while I was on my downgrade spree and I can say performance was immensely better . Everything else tho not so much ...
Better than EU for sure but I prefer global over it. Google services and everything else...
sun_is_shinning said:
So, im tired of Google contacts and calendar...and my Poco F3 came with that pre-installed instead of Xiaomi/MIUI ones.
My question is: can i install via Mi Flashtools the ROM of Mi11i or Mi11x to archieve that?
I have try installing the apk for Miui contacts and dialer but they wont work, wont Open after installing. But the Miui calendar works fine.
Course i love the Miui stock launcher better than POCO launcher too.
Can i do what i say above?! Thanks
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Unlock your bootloader & flash Xiaomi.eu Custom ROM. It's the best version of MIUI and includes Mi Phone (with Call Rec) & Mi Contacts.
The China ROM doesn't contain Google Services and is generally not optimised for Use outside of that region.
dreamytom said:
Sounds like user error.
Unlock your bootloader & flash Xiaomi.eu Custom ROM. It's the best version of MIUI and includes Mi Phone (with Call Rec) & Mi Contacts. Don't flash Mi 11X ROM onto the Poco F3.
And don't flash the China ROM. It doesn't contain Google Services and is generally not optimised for Use outside of that region.
The user above me is full of ****.
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Lmao man you shouldn't be qualified to talk about performance at all. Based on your post from before your use case scenario is so light that you can't even notice lack of performance from 870 chips.
I've talked to users having same issue I've described literally few days ago , on top of that I've tried myself both EU and VN versions and both felt like custom ROMs in terms of severe performance instability. So much so that I'm not using either of those but waiting for features in those ROMs to come to global users.
Have you flashed China ROM ???
Tried it for yourself before calling someone out ? I really doubt that's the case. It feels and performs leagues above miui VN or EU
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Lmao man you shouldn't be qualified to talk about performance at all. Based on your post from before your use case scenario is so light that you can't even notice lack of performance from 870 chips.
I've talked to users having same issue I've described literally few days ago , on top of that I've tried myself both EU and VN versions and both felt like custom ROMs in terms of severe performance instability. So much so that I'm not using either of those but waiting for features in those ROMs to come to global users.
Have you flashed China ROM ???
Tried it for yourself before calling someone out ? I really doubt that's the case. It feels and performs leagues above miui VN or EU
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I've never used China ROM, but Xiaomi.eu Custom ROM is based on China ROM...how can performance be much different ? Android Vanilla is much more smooth for sure, but.. the China ROM ?
You also say Global is better than EU/EEA, but there isn't much difference. The EU ROM just tries to be GDPR comform.
Edit: I've also run Geekbench Benchmark on my Xiaomi.eu ROM and its about what I expect. Other phones with SD 870 have similar results. The clunky feeling comes from MIUI in general...
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I've never used China ROM, but Xiaomi.eu Custom ROM is based on China ROM...how can performance be much different ? Android Vanilla is much more smooth for sure, but.. the China ROM ?
Sorry for saying you're full of sh*t, but you also say Global is better than EU/EEA, but there isn't much difference. The EU ROM just tries to be GDPR comform.
Edit: I've also run Geekbench Benchmark on my Xiaomi.eu ROM and its about what I expect. Other phones with SD 870 have similar results. The clunky feeling comes from MIUI in general...
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dreamytom said:
I've never used China ROM, but Xiaomi.eu Custom ROM is based on China ROM...how can performance be much different ? Android Vanilla is much more smooth for sure, but.. the China ROM ?
Sorry for saying you're full of sh*t, but you also say Global is better than EU/EEA, but there isn't much difference. The EU ROM just tries to be GDPR comform.
Edit: I've also run Geekbench Benchmark on my Xiaomi.eu ROM and its about what I expect. Other phones with SD 870 have similar results. The clunky feeling comes from MIUI in general...
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Nah the geekbank benchmark makes 0 sense when we are talking about random frame drops and stuttering lmao... But anyways it still is worse for you so yeah.....
Those random lags and stutters that you blame miui for are nonexistent on proper miui ROMs - China or global , I moved to get away from the stuttering and **** performance and am happy to report I've seen next to none ever since.
Idk what miui EU Devs are doing but it's essentially custom ROM regardless , they broke something 100% , be it by removing functionality from some crucial miui service or whatever the performance is not there.
EU version is supposed to offer higher performance in all use case scenarios over global by allowing for higher thermal limits when performance mode is activated , yet the experience is much worse with or without performance mode....
China or global only , miui EU is a joke. Based on China but trying to imitate global and ends up being worse than both lmao
Rstment ^m^ said:
Nah the geekbank benchmark makes 0 sense when we are talking about random frame drops and stuttering lmao... But anyways it still is worse for you so yeah.....
Those random lags and stutters that you blame miui for are nonexistent on proper miui ROMs - China or global , I moved to get away from the stuttering and **** performance and am happy to report I've seen next to none ever since.
Idk what miui EU Devs are doing but it's essentially custom ROM regardless , they broke something 100% , be it by removing functionality from some crucial miui service or whatever the performance is not there.
EU version is supposed to offer higher performance in all use case scenarios over global by allowing for higher thermal limits when performance mode is activated , yet the experience is much worse with or without performance mode....
China or global only , miui EU is a joke. Based on China but trying to imitate global and ends up being worse than both lmao
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I'm talking about Xiaomi.eu Custom ROM, not Stock MIUI for EU region, those are 2 different things.
If you have problems, run 3DMark Firestrike and compare against other SD 870 phones.
dreamytom said:
I'm talking about Xiaomi.eu Custom ROM, not Stock MIUI for EU region, those are 2 different things.
If you have problems, run 3DMark Firestrike and compare against other SD 870 phones.
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I know what you're talking about lmao read better before you jump to reply.
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I know what you're talking about lmao read better before you jump to reply.
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I have read it, but it's hard to tell from your messages if were talking about the Custom ROM. Some people mistake Xiaomi.eu for official Xiaomi ROMs for Europe.
Regardless there isn't much difference between Global & EEA. EEA has a toggle for ads directly in the Android Setup while the other doesn't, and some other changes so its GDPR compliant. There are no differences regarding performance.
I agree that China ROMs are the best if you want pure performance on MIUI. People only use xiaomi.eu because it's convenient, but it can never be the same as the official stuffs, after all it's just a frankenstein ROM that was modified directly then released without any actual optimization.
Saphira209 said:
I agree that China ROMs are the best if you want pure performance on MIUI. People only use xiaomi.eu because it's convenient, but it can never be the same as the official stuffs, after all it's just a frankenstein ROM that was modified directly then released without any actual optimization.
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im about to unlock my bootloader today cause the thing of "wait 168 hours" sh*t" and today i have free time...
One last question, xiaomi.eu ROM have the dolby atmos built in as the stock ROM?! Thanks in advance.
sun_is_shinning said:
im about to unlock my bootloader today cause the thing of "wait 168 hours" sh*t" and today i have free time...
One last question, xiaomi.eu ROM have the dolby atmos built in as the stock ROM?! Thanks in advance.
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Yeah
Hello people.
If I want to flash stock firmware with "MiFlash" do I have to unlock the device and the bootloader?
I mean, it is stock firmware.
Also, wondering if this applies if I want to flash the Mi 11x firmware?
Currently running Global firmware for Poco F3, MIUI 12.5.4.
I used to have Samsung before and flash all the time, but since they started with the Knox tripping thing I stopped and now I'm a little rusted.
I changed to Xiami and couldn't be happier.
Thanks for your support
jpdediego said:
Hello people.
If I want to flash stock firmware with "MiFlash" do I have to unlock the device and the bootloader?
I mean, it is stock firmware.
Also, wondering if this applies if I want to flash the Mi 11x firmware?
Currently running Global firmware for Poco F3, MIUI 12.5.4.
I used to have Samsung before and flash all the time, but since they started with the Knox tripping thing I stopped and now I'm a little rusted.
I changed to Xiami and couldn't be happier.
Thanks for your support
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For Official ROMs, unlocking bootloader is not necessary. Why do you want to flash the ROM of a different phone? Not recommended doing that...
dreamytom said:
For Official ROMs, unlocking bootloader is not necessary. Why do you want to flash the ROM of a different phone? I don't recommend doing that.
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Well, the bottom line will be just to test and see the difference between MIUI and Poco MIUI.
And it will be only with Mi 11x firmware which is the same phone but "different" brand, no intention of flashing the shark firmware for instance.
I've noticed some difference with my wife's Mi11 and I liked the dialer and she can sort regents in horizontal way.
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I think you won't be able to flash a different phones' ROM. Aren't you afraid it would brick your device? The ROM is for a different phone!
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Well, that's why I'm asking here.
At the end it is the same rebranded phone.
Must important will know how to unbrick it just in case
Not sure if I'll try at all
Haha
The difference is the model. Poco F3 and Redmi K40 are the alioth model, while Mi 11X is aliothin. Most custom roms makes the distinction between models at flashing, who isn't the case for stock. There's the slight chance to brick the phone while flashing the China version, plus the baseband aren't the same.
If you like to test pure MIUI instead of Poco MIUI, why not instead extract the desired APKs in Mi 11X ROM and replace them in your Poco F3?
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I am running a EU (i think) note 8 pro with a global 12.5.7 official rom, it has way too many glitches i don't want to deal with and i wanted to change rom, i once tried and bricked it, i recovered it a bit after and that-s how i got 12.5.7, what's the safest way to mod it and what rom is the safest? I was looking at either CrDroid or CorvusOS, which one would you recommend?
To be fair, I have the stock rom, version 12.5.7 and is the most stable version I ve encountered. I have not considered any custom ROM yet because they all seem to lack behind the stock rom. Sure, you get better looks and the vibe of stock debloated rom. Then again you lose a lot of features, Bluetooth range is abysmal and performance is worse compared to stock. And don't get me started on hard bricking risks. My advice would be to make a full reset and stick to the stock rom.
Peepeepoo said:
I am running a EU (i think) note 8 pro with a global 12.5.7 official rom, it has way too many glitches i don't want to deal with and i wanted to change rom, i once tried and bricked it, i recovered it a bit after and that-s how i got 12.5.7, what's the safest way to mod it and what rom is the safest? I was looking at either CrDroid or CorvusOS, which one would you recommend?
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1/You can find many free unbrick hardbrick videos for Redmi note 8 pro. And it's simple to unbrick (in my opinion).
2/You got brick because you didn't follow flash guide.
Example:
- You flash 12.5.x firmware based rom when you are using Miui 12.0.x
- You didn't format data or format data error
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3/Each custom rom has it own support group in each thread. If you want recommend, join there to ask or try it yourself.
Pixel experience imo is good I used to use ppui but rip