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I am new to Mi 6 and I am thinking to root. But how frequent are the updates? I want to know so that I can decide whether to root now or not. And can you get updates after root?
One extra question is that you use odin for samsung phones to flash stock firmware, what you use for mi 6?
Thanks
Depends on ROM you are using. If it's DEV rom - updates are every week (thursday/friday). If it's global - updates are irregular, made in long intervals of time.
I, personally, am using xiaomi.eu dev rom (MIUI 9.1 v. 7.11.16), and I have rooted Mi6. After update you are losing root and you'll need to root again. So, answering your question - you can update safely even if you have root, but you will need to root again.
When I was switching from stock global to xiaomi.eu rom, I simply unlocked bootloader (if you have agreement from Xiaomi), flashed twrp, then flashed rom from zip. After that you have OTA updates so it's simple and easy.
If you want stock rom - I suggest using MiFlash tool.
MaX2oo said:
Depends on ROM you are using. If it's DEV rom - updates are every week (thursday/friday). If it's global - updates are irregular, made in long intervals of time.
I, personally, am using xiaomi.eu dev rom (MIUI 9.1 v. 7.11.16), and I have rooted Mi6. After update you are losing root and you'll need to root again. So, answering your question - you can update safely even if you have root, but you will need to root again.
When I was switching from stock global to xiaomi.eu rom, I simply unlocked bootloader (if you have agreement from Xiaomi), flashed twrp, then flashed rom from zip. After that you have OTA updates so it's simple and easy.
If you want stock rom - I suggest using MiFlash tool.
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Hey thanks man. So even with root and twrp I will get OTA updates? I am on global rom
Sure, you have to unlock the bootloader of your phone before you can install TWRP and root.
Then you can install whatever you want... MIUI Weekly ROMs, Stable ROMs, custom ROMs .. etc.
zapperbyte said:
Sure, you have to unlock the bootloader of your phone before you can install TWRP and root.
Then you can install whatever you want... MIUI Weekly ROMs, Stable ROMs, custom ROMs .. etc.
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where to find stable roms?
UnNaMeD__ said:
where to find stable roms?
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http://en.miui.com/download-326.html those are official xiaomi's stable global ROMs
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=36337 xiaomi.eu's (unofficial, fan-made) stable ROMs.
allweknowisa said:
http://en.miui.com/download-326.html those are official xiaomi's stable global ROMs
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=36337 xiaomi.eu's (unofficial, fan-made) stable ROMs.
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Thanks a lot man.
I am on Pixel Experience rom, and want to try another rom. I was on MIUI 10.02 and I unlocked bootloader and installed PE rom. Now I want to try another rom, but am afraid of bricking phone. Is it safe to flash another custom rom? or what?
Egyptiandroid said:
I am on Pixel Experience rom, and want to try another rom. I was on MIUI 10.02 and I unlocked bootloader and installed PE rom. Now I want to try another rom, but am afraid of bricking phone. Is it safe to flash another custom rom? or what?
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Flashing Custom ROMs is safe leaving aside MIUI based custom ROMs.
Go from Oreo to Pie or Pie to Oreo without a doubt in any AOSP or Lineage OS based ROM, but if you ever want to go back to MIUI or any MIUI based ROM just ensure that you install the latest version or the version higher than the one you had previously.
Only the firmware found in MIUI ROM is responsible for bricking. So you can also try firmware-less MIUI ROMs. There are many relevant threads regarding it.
Just do a search.
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RKStyles said:
Flashing Custom ROMs is safe leaving aside MIUI based custom ROMs.
Go from Oreo to Pie or Pie to Oreo without a doubt in any AOSP or Lineage OS based ROM, but if you ever want to go back to MIUI or any MIUI based ROM just ensure that you install the latest version or the version higher than the one you had previously.
Only the firmware found in MIUI ROM is responsible for bricking. So you can also try firmware-less MIUI ROMs. There are many relevant threads regarding it.
Just do a search.
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Ok what are roms that based on miui to avoid them?
It's easy to find by the nomenclature.
Their names include MIUI or a variation of it.
Some are: Revolution OS, MIUI Pro, MIUI Eu, Masik ROM.
Egyptiandroid said:
Ok what are roms that based on miui to avoid them?
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You could try SyberiaOS, Havoc MOD, Bootleggers, Pixel Experience Extended.
Letrix said:
You could try SyberiaOS, Havoc MOD, Bootleggers, Pixel Experience Extended.
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In your opinion which one is the best for the battery drain?
Oero :
U can go for MSM-Extended... Stable , Good battery life too !
Pie :
Liquid Remix
Superior OS
:good:
RKStyles said:
Flashing Custom ROMs is safe leaving aside MIUI based custom ROMs.
Go from Oreo to Pie or Pie to Oreo without a doubt in any AOSP or Lineage OS based ROM, but if you ever want to go back to MIUI or any MIUI based ROM just ensure that you install the latest version or the version higher than the one you had previously.
Only the firmware found in MIUI ROM is responsible for bricking. So you can also try firmware-less MIUI ROMs. There are many relevant threads regarding it.
Just do a search.
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Did u mean that miui based rom can brick my phone ?
Did u sure for that ?
I think the only way to brick it to go from arb4 to arb3 in miui official rom only but the miui based roms i dont think so .... But if u sure about that tell me again ?
Kireto00 said:
Did u mean that miui based rom can brick my phone ?
Did u sure for that ?
I think the only way to brick it to go from arb4 to arb3 in miui official rom only but the miui based roms i dont think so .... But if u sure about that tell me again ?
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I mentioned that you should always install a MIUI build that is of higher version than you previously had to be on the safer side.
After MIUI 9.5.17, ARB protection bumped to ARB4 from ARB3.
So, once you update to any ARB4 version and then make a mistake of installing any MIUI build of ARB3, your device will be bricked.
That's why I mentioned that always ensure that you install the latest build or the build with version higher than the one you had previously installed.
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Egyptiandroid said:
I am on Pixel Experience rom, and want to try another rom. I was on MIUI 10.02 and I unlocked bootloader and installed PE rom. Now I want to try another rom, but am afraid of bricking phone. Is it safe to flash another custom rom? or what?
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for safe flash use pitchblack recovery
you can upgrade and downgrade without brick your device
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I mentioned that you should always install a MIUI build that is of higher version than you previously had to be on the safer side.
After MIUI 9.5.17, ARB protection bumped to ARB4 from ARB3.
So, once you update to any ARB4 version and then make a mistake of installing any MIUI build of ARB3, your device will be bricked.
That's why I mentioned that always ensure that you install the latest build or the build with version higher than the one you had previously installed.
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I believe his question was about custom MIUI roms which have firmware update removed so that risk of bricking is non existent. I believe reading that Masik does not contain firmware, but I'm not sure.
Other than your good explanation about ARB4 vs ARB3, one thing to add: anyone on ARB4 can flash any ARB4 rom since the bootloader checks for anti rollback protection index but not the MIUI version specifically. So any rom starting from Stable v9.5.19 if I remember and Beta 8.7.6 are safe, until ARB5 comes (if it comes, and if it requires ARB5).
RKStyles said:
I mentioned that you should always install a MIUI build that is of higher version than you previously had to be on the safer side.
After MIUI 9.5.17, ARB protection bumped to ARB4 from ARB3.
So, once you update to any ARB4 version and then make a mistake of installing any MIUI build of ARB3, your device will be bricked.
That's why I mentioned that always ensure that you install the latest build or the build with version higher than the one you had previously installed.
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Yes i was missed understanding ..... But i want to say that u can back to any version that had arb4 so you can go back to anyfrimware that has arb4
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abdullah alotaibi said:
for safe flash use pitchblack recovery
you can upgrade and downgrade without brick your device
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Why ? It will be bricked if u go from arb4 to arb3 as normal
abdullah alotaibi said:
for safe flash use pitchblack recovery
you can upgrade and downgrade without brick your device
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I am gonna try this recovery. But do you mean that i can even flash miui official rom without bricking phone?
Kireto00 said:
Did u mean that miui based rom can brick my phone ?
Did u sure for that ?
I think the only way to brick it to go from arb4 to arb3 in miui official rom only but the miui based roms i dont think so .... But if u sure about that tell me again ?
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as long as they tell you in the rom features or installation that doesnt affect ARB or doesnt touch firmware its ok.. but not sure if not all miui based roms have firmeareless. so you need to read rom intructions.
shea83 said:
In your opinion which one is the best for the battery drain?
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PE Extended. Also depends on the Kernel. But nothing like MIUI gives you better battery life.
try mcaosp rom... you won't switch to any other rom ever... best custom pie rom in my opinion. or if wanna go for miui based go for masik x1.7
shea83 said:
In your opinion which one is the best for the battery drain?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...rom-whyred-t3864111/post78150797#post78150797
Kireto00 said:
Yes i was missed understanding ..... But i want to say that u can back to any version that had arb4 so you can go back to anyfrimware that has arb4
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Why ? It will be bricked if u go from arb4 to arb3 as normal
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no not brick ,i am on pitchblack recovery and downgrade full miui rom 9 and work fine , i test it downgrade then upgrade miui10 and switch between dev china stable no problem:laugh:
abdullah alotaibi said:
no not brick ,i am on pitchblack recovery and downgrade full miui rom 9 and work fine , i test it downgrade then upgrade miui10 and switch between dev china stable no problem:laugh:
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You can downgrade to miui 9 arb4 frimwares but if u go to arb3 frinware it will be bricked i am sure of that
Kireto00 said:
You can downgrade to miui 9 arb4 frimwares but if u go to arb3 frinware it will be bricked i am sure of that
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i bricked mi device twice and solve it
i am on arb 4 thats not change.by pitchblack recovery i downgrade to arb3 roms wothout brick am sure and test .in youtobe search pitchblack recovery from arb4 to arb3
arb 4 not change but device not brick its work fine
Hello.
I want to flash latest firmware, running Syberia ROM, but I want to know what are the differences between: FW, FW-less and FW-non-arb?
Thanks.
If you are still anti rollback (arb) 3, installing the latest firmware (FW) will update your bootloader, thus you will have arb 4.
Fw less roms come without the firmware. since there is no firmware, no way to trigger ARB.
Fw-non-arb are firmware files without the bootloader part, again no bootloader so arb will not be triggered.
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If you are still anti rollback (arb) 3, installing the latest firmware (FW) will update your bootloader, thus you will have arb 4.
Fw less roms come without the firmware. since there is no firmware, no way to trigger ARB.
Fw-non-arb are firmware files without the bootloader part, again no bootloader so arb will not be triggered.
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Thanks!
t.hasan1 said:
If you are still anti rollback (arb) 3, installing the latest firmware (FW) will update your bootloader, thus you will have arb 4.
Fw less roms come without the firmware. since there is no firmware, no way to trigger ARB.
Fw-non-arb are firmware files without the bootloader part, again no bootloader so arb will not be triggered.
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I have a Redmi Note 5 China with MIUI 9.6.4.0 stable, I want to install some custom rom, liquid remix or havoc, I will download the latest firmware ''MIUI 10 8.12.27 Global / China Beta ROM Firmware'' but I do not know which one do I do? ! FW, FW-less or FW-non-arb?
Dead Pool Brasil said:
I have a Redmi Note 5 China with MIUI 9.6.4.0 stable, I want to install some custom rom, liquid remix or havoc, I will download the latest firmware ''MIUI 10 8.12.27 Global / China Beta ROM Firmware'' but I do not know which one do I do? ! FW, FW-less or FW-non-arb?
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Since 8.12.27 is the newest rom available you can install only FW as this would not trigger ARB (Both 9.6.4.0 and 8.12.27 are ARB4)
Hey i want to update my firmware (not ROM!!) to the latest ARB build, so if i do that can flash any Custom ROM ( Oreo-Pie ) without having hard brick??
I'm so sorry this is my first XIAOMI Device. Hehe
Hello,
My lisa came with 12.5.5 out of the box. OTA offers direct to 13.0.2. Is there anyway I can upgrade to 12.5.9 ? I don't want to upgrade to A12 atm, or anytime soon really.
Indian firware if that matters.
I see xiaomi.eu has a version of 12.5.9 which is no longer updated, but lisa isn't listed on the compatible device list.
Thanks
BB
BisonBro said:
Hello,
My lisa came with 12.5.5 out of the box. OTA offers direct to 13.0.2. Is there anyway I can upgrade to 12.5.9 ? I don't want to upgrade to A12 atm, or anytime soon really.
Indian firware if that matters.
I see xiaomi.eu has a version of 12.5.9 which is no longer updated, but lisa isn't listed on the compatible device list.
Thanks
BB
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First of all, some basics (not sure are you aware of):
1) If your phone came with Indian, you can update but only to Indian firmware without unlocking your Bootloader:
Install MIUI Recovery ROM using Stock Recovery and Updater App
Has your Xiaomi phone received a new MIUI update? Then follow this guide to easily install MIUI Recovery ROM using stock recovery and Updater app on Xiaomi devices. Any smartphone user prefers getting…
www.thecustomdroid.com
In that case you will need to download the so-called Recovery or ZIP stock firmware and use the installation as above
2) For anything else, like switching from Indian to Global or EEA (or to Russian or Chinese) - they are all stock ROMs, or switching to Xiaomi.eu - that is not stock ROM, or any other custom (ie, not stock) ROM, you would first have to unlock Bootloader
AFAIK, Xiaomi.eu has no 12.5 for Lisa, only 13.0 - hence not applicable if you insist on 12.5
To switch from Indian to Global or EEA (still stock ROMs), you will need the unlocked Bootloader, the so-called Fastboot or TGZ firmware (and MiFlash tool):
How to Flash Fastboot ROMs on Xiaomi? - xiaomiui
If you are a Xiaomi user and have installed custom ROMs on your device, then you might be wondering how to flash fastboot ROMs on Xiaomi devices. This article
xiaomiui.net
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I don't know where do you see 12.5.9 for Lisa - I had 12.5.8 EEA) , but there should be not much difference
Anyway, install the following app and you can check which versions are available for Lisa (for stock Global, EEA, Indian, etc) or custom Xiaomi.eu:
MIUI Downloader - Apps on Google Play
MIUI upgrade app for Mi users.
play.google.com
It shows the Latest but click on Older and you will see all the previously released (stable) versions.
Btw, under Indian, I don't find 12.5.9, neither under Global or EEA (under Global there are eg 12.5.11 and 12.5.14)
From the app, you can also choose and download Recovery (zip) or Fastboot (tgz) stock ROM for the wanted version - depending on your flashing method as above
thank you very much. I did request to unlock the bootloader in the mi unlock app, but all the custom A11 roms stopped development or moved onto A12, so I didn't see much point in unlocking bootloader.
as i understand, if i am on the indian firmware, i can flash the indian rom without BL unlock. but if BL is unlocked, do i need to switch firmware as well to install say the Global ROM ?
about 12.5.9, i mistook it as the last version before they moved to 13. sorry about that.
BisonBro said:
thank you very much. I did request to unlock the bootloader in the mi unlock app, but all the custom A11 roms stopped development or moved onto A12, so I didn't see much point in unlocking bootloader.
as i understand, if i am on the indian firmware, i can flash the indian rom without BL unlock. but if BL is unlocked, do i need to switch firmware as well to install say the Global ROM ?
about 12.5.9, i mistook it as the last version before they moved to 13. sorry about that.
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When you unlock Bootloader it does not prevent you to update India ROM by stock Recovery method
It just gives you the additional option to switch eg to Global by flashing Fastboot/tgz ROM
Its like, you can always go by foot, but if you have a car, you have the additional option to go by car
Please take your time, Google, read to acquire further knowledge and know-how.
There are tons of guides here on XDA, on the Net, Google videos, etc