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Hello everyone,
I live in Indy where we don't currently have 4G and don't anticipate on getting it anytime soon.
However, I keep seeing threads pop up where people have flashed a rom or done something that breaks the 4G capability.
Does anyone know how this is happening? I'd like to keep my 4G intact just in case I ever get the chance to use it. Have played with several roms already. Phone came with Froyo and did the downgrade root method.
Thanks!
mgalyan said:
Hello everyone,
I live in Indy where we don't currently have 4G and don't anticipate on getting it anytime soon.
However, I keep seeing threads pop up where people have flashed a rom or done something that breaks the 4G capability.
Does anyone know how this is happening? I'd like to keep my 4G intact just in case I ever get the chance to use it. Have played with several roms already. Phone came with Froyo and did the downgrade root method.
Thanks!
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there is no 4g support on aosp roms because the htc code for wimax is not open source. cyanogen only uses open source code in his roms and it is being reverse engineered at this moment. all the other sense roms should have working 4g w/ no problems.
mgalyan said:
Hello everyone,
I live in Indy where we don't currently have 4G and don't anticipate on getting it anytime soon.
However, I keep seeing threads pop up where people have flashed a rom or done something that breaks the 4G capability.
Does anyone know how this is happening? I'd like to keep my 4G intact just in case I ever get the chance to use it. Have played with several roms already. Phone came with Froyo and did the downgrade root method.
Thanks!
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Well, I'm definitely not "in the know" regarding the 4G, but I would assume ROMs do not have the correct drivers or settings for the 4G.
However, if you do not think you will be getting soon, why not simply "lose" 4G ? Should you get 4G in your area, wouldn't flashing to an official ROM "fix" the 4G again ? That would of course require you to reinstall all your stuff, and make all the settings the way you want them again, but that's only a few hours of work usually.
For example I saw a thread about someone who went from CM6 to Fresh and 4g won't obtain a MAC address. I did the same thing. CM6 to Fresh.
Someone responded and said he'd have to return the phone for replacing.
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mgalyan said:
Hello everyone,
I live in Indy where we don't currently have 4G and don't anticipate on getting it anytime soon.
However, I keep seeing threads pop up where people have flashed a rom or done something that breaks the 4G capability.
Does anyone know how this is happening? I'd like to keep my 4G intact just in case I ever get the chance to use it. Have played with several roms already. Phone came with Froyo and did the downgrade root method.
Thanks!
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Hey fellow Sprint Evo user from Indy. Lets not worry about 4G in Indy, that won't come anytime soon considering Sprint can't get 3G implemented across Indy.
Here's how it happened to me....
I had my first EVO and I played with 4g before I rooted and rom'd it. After flashing a rom (Stock 2.2 rooted) it worked fine.
Then I had to replace my evo... so the replacement came, I opened it, and immediately rooted it. It wasn't even activated yet, and I did not play with 4g. After flashing Fresh 3.1.0.2 I noticed 4g wasnt working. I checked my MAC address and it was the same as under the battery, but for some reason my phone would not get past the "scanning" stage.
So... here's what I did:
I flashed RA Recovery and wiped everything and flashed to the latest OTA (HTC 3.26.651.6) which can be found here. After that I started playing around with my 4g, and got it to work. Then I flashed Fresh 3.2 and my 4g still works.
Someone had recommended I delete my tree.xml file which I never tried... a complete wipe did that anyways.
Anyways... sorry to make this long. Just chipping in what I have found. I hope it helps.
Yeah I'm not entirely worried about 4G. I just don't want to do anything unknowingly permanent. I tend to sell my phones on eBay when I'm ready to upgrade and a 3G only evo wouldn't be worth much.
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the only permanent 4g damage you can do is to wipe the RSA keys. nobody seems to really know how this happens. it happened to my evo and i had never even rooted before.
Yeah my RSA certs got wiped; had an issue one night flashing a ROM and latest WiMax, things didn't wipe right and all hell broke loose, ended up flashing the WiMax radio twice and that seemed to do it. Someone else mentioned this here and that seemed to do it for me.
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conqu1stador said:
Yeah my RSA certs got wiped; had an issue one night flashing a ROM and latest WiMax, things didn't wipe right and all hell broke loose, ended up flashing the WiMax radio twice and that seemed to do it. Someone else mentioned this here and that seemed to do it for me.
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wait you got your rsa certs back? how????
Ahh sorry, no. I guess I see how that might have sounded like that. Meant someone else seemed to have the same issue, far as I know one cannot fix this themselves.
Sorry. New Evo coming from Sprint due to other issues, but that's how I ended up losing my WiMax.
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wait you got your rsa certs back? how????
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yeah, i read his post at first like that too. when he said "that seemed to do it", i think he meant that is what wiped the rsa keys. but can we get clarification?
sprint basically needs to create a tool that restores rsa keys for the evo. i understand they have this for their 4g data cards already. i'm hoping they do this so i don't have to return my phone (which is otherwise perfect) for some effed up refurb.
EDIT: oops, didn't realize a pg 2 had appeared. so no rsa key fix here...move on...
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Ahh sorry, no. I guess I see how that might have sounded like that. Meant someone else seemed to have the same issue, far as I know one cannot fix this themselves.
Sorry. New Evo coming from Sprint due to other issues, but that's how I ended up losing my WiMax.
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are you within 30 days of purchase? if not, how did you get sprint to send you a new one? the CSR i spoke with told me they don't have the option to order new and when a replacement is ordered you will get refurb if they have them and new if they have no refurb. also, do you pay the sprint insurance? i think that factors into this as well. i pay the $7 insurance.
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are you within 30 days of purchase? if not, how did you get sprint to send you a new one? the CSR i spoke with told me they don't have the option to order new and when a replacement is ordered you will get refurb if they have them and new if they have no refurb. also, do you pay the sprint insurance? i think that factors into this as well. i pay the $7 insurance.
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Yeah, I pay the $7 but going through Sprint, not Asurion. 30 days has come and gone but they've been quite helpful about it.
Having issues with the phone that falls under the 1 Year Manufacturers warranty.
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Yeah, I pay the $7 but going through Sprint, not Asurion. 30 days has come and gone but they've been quite helpful about it.
Having issues with the phone that falls under the 1 Year Manufacturers warranty.
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right, i agree that it falls under the manufacturers warranty and i am also dealing directly with sprint but they will not guarantee me a new phone as replacement. it's the hit or miss thing i described above. i called a corp store and they said the same thing. in fact, they said they had refubs in stock so i would walk out of the store with a refurb. i asked you about the $7 thing because i'm wondering if their systems treat the replacement differently depending on whether you pay it or not. i was literally told there is no way they could order me a new phone as replacement and as far as sprint reps go, this one sounded more "with it" than others. have you received the phone yet? is it really new?
Well, dude said it'd be new ... am waiting 2-4 business days as they didn't have any in stock at the store. He made it sound like if they had one in the back he'd hook it up, but they didn't. Am assuming it's going to be new. If not, I just hope I don't come up with some other issue if it is a refurb. Have had bad experiences with refurbished - uh - things in the past.
I didn't want to press my luck and ask if another Sprint store in the area might have any in stock, thus I could head elsewhere ... figured I'd just let it all play out. Time will tell though if it's new or not. As said, as long as I have a phone that works I wouldn't really mind a refurb. But I'd prefer a new one ...
right. i share the same opinion. prefer new over refurb. and i'm hard pressed to go the refurb route now with my only issue being non-functional 4g.
let us know what you end up with...
Yessir, will do.
Got the new phone, everything went swimmingly (do people really say that?) and it appears to be new, guy said it was new, not refurbished. Will have to check when I find the post that detailed the quick way of checking.
People were extremely helpful, 4G is back baybaaaay but also soon to be gone. But, I noticed I didn't have an SD card, not sure if he was supposed to have taken mine out and put it in, alas I just walked out without checking. Sat down with a beer and noticed and had to go back up there. All is well in the world, all is well.
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I've been reading this forum for the past two days trying to see if there is a similar thread with this issue. Please point me in the right direction if there is a similar thread resolving this issue (this forum is colossal!).
I recently bought a UK version GSM Galaxy Nexus running Modaco 4.0.2 Ir8. I'm using it on T-Mobile's network (The GN is replacing my HTC Sensation).
The gentleman that sold it to me had already unlocked, rooted, and flashed it with Modaco. It works blazing fast. The only thing is that when ever I make a phone call it literally drops in less than 5 minutes. The signal seems to be switching like crazy from 3G to HSPA+ as well.
I've called TMO and they have no clue what the issue is (4 different reps told me 4 different things from needing to factory reset to the towers being down etc.).
Again the phone works great besides the fact that I can't make a phone call for more than a couple of minutes before it drops.
Has anyone seen this with their GN? Is it the phone? The Mod? Are T-Mobile's towers not able to pick up this phone's radios because it's from the UK?
How can I go about fixing this (Factory reset? etc.)? I'm literally about to factory reset this thing this morning when I get home from work.
I don't really have too much experience as far as rooting goes but willing to learn and get this issue resolved.
What radio version are you using?
I'm on T-Mobile and xxkk6 works well for me.
If you don't know what you have, I suggest u go to the dev section and start reading for a while
xxkk6 at the least should be on there. i think there is xxkl7 possibly. the xxkk6 is the stock radio, but if there is a kk7 or kl7 might want to try that as it would be a later version.
How can I tell which radio version I'm on and does it give me the option to switch it?
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What radio version are you using?
I'm on T-Mobile and xxkk6 works well for me.
If you don't know what you have, I suggest u go to the dev section and start reading for a while
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Jjonlife said:
How can I tell which radio version I'm on and does it give me the option to switch it?
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Settings, about phone.
I had similar problems until I switched to KK6.
This thread has all the different basebands:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1405345
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I've been reading the forum for a minute and haven't noticed any threads regarding this issue. Bear in mind this forum has like 1 thousand threads to go over.
Jjonlife said:
I've been reading the forum for a minute and haven't noticed any threads regarding this issue. Bear in mind this forum has like 1 thousand threads to go over.
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I was using KK1 before and it was absolutely fine until about a week ago, then I started to get dropped calls etc.
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Jjonlife said:
How can I tell which radio version I'm on and does it give me the option to switch it?
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I'm on xxk1. How do I switch to kk6?
Thanks for sending me that link. Which baseband set up would be good for the US (NYC specifically). They all look like they are designed for European areas.
And once I put in my Sim card, why didn't the phone just figure out with Radioband to attach itself to?
pnnorth said:
Settings, about phone.
I had similar problems until I switched to KK6.
This thread has all the different basebands:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1405345
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Jjonlife said:
Thanks for sending me that link. Which baseband set up would be good for the US (NYC specifically). They all look like they are designed for European areas.
And once I put in my Sim card, why didn't the phone just figure out with Radioband to attach itself to?
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Basebands beginning with UG are for north America. I think there are a couple of threads in the dev section about UG basebands, it might be worth have a look at those.
KK7 Thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1382699
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Thanks for the link. After reading through a couple of pages I'm starting to realize that I have no idea what the hell is going on with switching radio bands. Even worse, I have not read about any instances where one or the other will work very well in NYC (my area).
Is there a grid which shows which radio band is for which area? Anyone know of anywhere that shows the step by way to do this?
pnnorth said:
Basebands beginning with UG are for north America. I think there are a couple of threads in the dev section about UG basebands, it might be worth have a look at those.
KK7 Thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1382699
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Jjonlife said:
Thanks for the link. After reading through a couple of pages I'm starting to realize that I have no idea what the hell is going on with switching radio bands. Even worse, I have not read about any instances where one or the other will work very well in NYC (my area).
Is there a grid which shows which radio band is for which area? Anyone know of anywhere that shows the step by way to do this?
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See section 3 in the first post of this thread for a step by step guide:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392310
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I appreciate that. Will be looking into it later this morning when I get off work.
For anyone who had to do this process: Is this a normal thing when rooting and flashing, to have to find a better baseband etc.? Is it because my phone is a UK version that TMO is having an issue dropping my calls?
And lastly, anyone know what the best baseband/radio is suitable for NYC? And why doesn't the phone just figure out which is the best baseband?
pnnorth said:
See section 3 in the first post of this thread for a step by step guide:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392310
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Jjonlife said:
I appreciate that. Will be looking into it later this morning when I get off work.
For anyone who had to do this process: Is this a normal thing when rooting and flashing, to have to find a better baseband etc.? Is it because my phone is a UK version that TMO is having an issue dropping my calls?
And lastly, anyone know what the best baseband/radio is suitable for NYC? And why doesn't the phone just figure out which is the best baseband?
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the baseband should work. it's gsm, the world standard. but i'm guessing since i don't know exactly what is tweaked, but that the specific baseband for your region will bias your phone for the known networks. ugkk7 works great for me. atnt. i think there is a ugkl6 or 7. sometimes you have to test them. some will work better for others. some will work great and not eat battery. if it eats battery, try another one. i think samsung is decent about releasing different radios for different regions. it can be confusing. now when it's comes to updating their roms, that is a different story.
Ok,
The baseband def has to be affecting my battery. I'm getting not even 10 hours on a full charge from moderate use.
I don't really know exactly what the first owner did to it, only what he told me.
My plan is to bring it back to factory settings (found an article about how to restore the GSM version, but have yet to find any youtube videos abou it....I only see LTE videos on rooting and unrooting, and I'm not sure if it's the same process so I'm not touching those).
If that doesn't help it then I'll go about flashing and changing the baseband.
Again this whole baseband business is really new to me. The input you guys have been giving so far is much appreciated.
pukemon said:
the baseband should work. it's gsm, the world standard. but i'm guessing since i don't know exactly what is tweaked, but that the specific baseband for your region will bias your phone for the known networks. ugkk7 works great for me. atnt. i think there is a ugkl6 or 7. sometimes you have to test them. some will work better for others. some will work great and not eat battery. if it eats battery, try another one. i think samsung is decent about releasing different radios for different regions. it can be confusing. now when it's comes to updating their roms, that is a different story.
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Update:
Ended up coming home early from work and staying up all morning trying to figure this out. I decided on using this link first: (http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/restore-galaxy-nexus-to-stock-how-to/)
to re-lock. That took about 4 hours of troubleshooting and getting to know the lingo and terminology. Then from a combination of other youtube videos I spent another 4 hours trying to figure out how to lock the bootloader. Believe it or not the Xda link about this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392310) saved me from losing my mind. I literally didn't go to sleep until I made sure I brought the phone back to factory settings.
After I finally got the phone back to factory settings (believe me, it wasn't fun figuring this out especially when I've never rooted before) I noticed the wifi wasn't working, or had a very weak signal. Content with the phone at least being back on factory settings and locked, I go to sleep and wake up today seeing the same issue with the wifi (mean while, I now have good signal/service...didn't even have to mess with the baseband radio config).
I restart the router in our house and power down the phone and restart. Problem fixed.
Not really sure why or how, but bringing the phone back to factory settings seems to make it work just as fast as it worked when Modaco Ir8 4.0.2 was on it. Except now I have amazing Service signal.
I can honestly state that rooting really isn't for me especially with the notion that with every new mod that comes out you have to be flashing on a constant basis. Even though I almost lost my mind trying to figure this out, I would still rather have this approach vs Apple's walled garden approach though. Any day.
One of the reasons I like the Nexus line of phones is that it's pretty much the only Android phone that gets all the updates first and on a constant basis. Which makes it such an awesome phone in that it's also the phone that Google allows any and all capabilities to be customized. I have true respect for all the devs out there who attack this stuff daily.
Just be sure to get enough exercise in and healthy meals along with rest lol.
Jjonlife said:
Update:
Ended up coming home early from work and staying up all morning trying to figure this out. I decided on using this link first: (http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/restore-galaxy-nexus-to-stock-how-to/)
to re-lock. That took about 4 hours of troubleshooting and getting to know the lingo and terminology. Then from a combination of other youtube videos I spent another 4 hours trying to figure out how to lock the bootloader. Believe it or not the Xda link about this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392310) saved me from losing my mind. I literally didn't go to sleep until I made sure I brought the phone back to factory settings.
After I finally got the phone back to factory settings (believe me, it wasn't fun figuring this out especially when I've never rooted before) I noticed the wifi wasn't working, or had a very weak signal. Content with the phone at least being back on factory settings and locked, I go to sleep and wake up today seeing the same issue with the wifi (mean while, I now have good signal/service...didn't even have to mess with the baseband radio config).
I restart the router in our house and power down the phone and restart. Problem fixed.
Not really sure why or how, but bringing the phone back to factory settings seems to make it work just as fast as it worked when Modaco Ir8 4.0.2 was on it. Except now I have amazing Service signal.
I can honestly state that rooting really isn't for me especially with the notion that with every new mod that comes out you have to be flashing on a constant basis. Even though I almost lost my mind trying to figure this out, I would still rather have this approach vs Apple's walled garden approach though. Any day.
One of the reasons I like the Nexus line of phones is that it's pretty much the only Android phone that gets all the updates first and on a constant basis. Which makes it such an awesome phone in that it's also the phone that Google allows any and all capabilities to be customized. I have true respect for all the devs out there who attack this stuff daily.
Just be sure to get enough exercise in and healthy meals along with rest lol.
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some people actually recommend factory resetting your device from the get go. i would, but i always just run with the hardware just to make sure the hardware and stress i throw at it will handle all the roms and stuff. and to exchange my phone if finding there is a problem.
Good to hear that you got it sorted out in the end
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Rooting/Flashing is great IMO for people who will never have the luxury of getting updates like Nexus phones get. Take control in your own hands on when you decide you want to update(s) etc.
I'm sure any Devs out there (like on this forum) also love tinkering. To each his own.
pukemon said:
some people actually recommend factory resetting your device from the get go. i would, but i always just run with the hardware just to make sure the hardware and stress i throw at it will handle all the roms and stuff. and to exchange my phone if finding there is a problem.
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Indeed. I def learned a lesson: Never let anyone ever root your phone for you. The guy who rooted it for me was nice enough to say I could email him for questions but the more I kept emailing him the more I could tell he was probably getting frustrated at all my worrisome questions ("I'm dropping calls", "Is it because of the rooting?", "My wifi isn't working", "is it because of the rooting?..." etc.).
Just glad to know there are tons of available options for one to seek out help when issues like this arise.
pnnorth said:
Good to hear that you got it sorted out in the end
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(Mods not sure if this should be in Q&A or in general but the title is in form of a question so i thought here. Move it if you like...)
Theres a sticky for a reason but many for some reason dont like to use it also there is a search bar but it seems invisible to some...
Two question that keep coming up alot are a GOOD GB rom and battery life i know im just adding to it but just had to :
If your looking for a Good custom GB EL29 rom that has good Gps, battery life etc..
the two that everyone recommend are
Calks EL 29 GB rom which has many features which include hacked 3g, 4g hotspot hacked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332837
The other one is
Phantoms Blazer 4.1 GB Rom
(currently looking for active download location will post as soon as i find it . if anyone has it or knows a good download link please post it.)
battery life issues?
My battery life is starting to last less and less?
My phone says 90% battery life and then suddenly it shuts down without showing the animation?
My phone says battery life 80% and then shuts off and after i restart it , it will say 20%
Many of these problems are cause by a bad battery. many of us have had this phone for a lil bit over a year and the battery starts to go out.
especially with all the flashing we do..
Solution?: take your battery out of the phone and place it on top of a desk or counter and see if it lies flat. If it doesnt and it looks kind of bulgy its because its done. You need a new battery .
FYI: First... anything... I've heard from Sprint on this:
http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/509234#509234
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Initial findings from the Reverse Logistics team (i.e. where stores send things back to when issues arise) are inconclusive. Samsung and Sprint are currently investigating batteries and devices that stores have sent back for the cause of the issues. I don't have any sort of ETA.
Many of the phones with swollen batteris that I have personally seen also have had other signs of abuse however, this includes things like humidity and heat/cold exposure, drops, cracks, etc. that could cause issues and result in potentially variable voltage from the battery or through the circuitry on the phone.
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FYI: First... anything... I've heard from Sprint on this:
http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/509234#509234
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I didnt state that that is the only reason for a bad battery. It is one of the main reasons though. Thats the problem im having right now i already ordered a new battery. I flash a new rom on a constant basis even if the one im currently using is a DD. Ive walked in to many sprint corporate repair centers and when you tell them the issue you are having the first thing they do is pull out the battery. Samsung has 18month warranty on the battery but sprint wont replace it. They want you to contact samsung directly.
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Many of these problems are cause by a bad battery. many of us have had this phone for a lil bit over a year and the battery starts to go out.
especially with all the flashing we do..
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P.S.
I don't think you can tell us anything about the highly rumored 2-step OTA that's going to get us to JB, huh?
Word is an announcement is expected this week and something to be pushed as early as Monday.
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Keep us updated on the response ..
Ma$etas said:
I didnt state that that is the only reason for a bad battery. It is one of the main reasons though. Thats the problem im having right now i already ordered a new battery. I flash a new rom on a constant basis even if the one im currently using is a DD. Ive walked in to many sprint corporate repair centers and when you tell them the issue you are having the first thing they do is pull out the battery. Samsung has 18month warranty on the battery but sprint wont replace it. They want you to contact samsung directly.
Keep us updated on the response ..
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Sorry if you thought my post on Sprint was bringing up you specifically... it was actually a more generic observation based on the many threads that have popped up over the past few months. Instead of making a new thread just for that response I figured yours may be the best to drop that info on. No need to clog up the forums more
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Sorry if you thought my post on Sprint was bringing up you specifically... it was actually a more generic observation based on the many threads that have popped up over the past few months. Instead of making a new thread just for that response I figured yours may be the best to drop that info on. No need to clog up the forums more
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OK got it . we :good:
Although I wouldn't term myself a pro at all, I am not a noob when it comes to rooting and installing other ROMs. I have rooted many of my Android phones over the years and have diligently read and re-read posts when it comes to rooting and installing ClockworkMod recovery and other ROMs.
Last week, I made a big boo-boo!
I searched for "Sprint SGS3 alternate ROMs" and found a CNet article (http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/mobile-phones/top-5-samsung-galaxy-s3-custom-roms-50009440/) listing the different ROMs. I downloaded a couple (Hawkish and Energy) and promptly tried to install them. I got some error message in CWM. I then rebooted after cleaning caches, dalvik etc.
My phone wouldn't start at all!!!
I tried all the keypresses to get things working but absolutely nothing. The unit wouldn't turn on even with a separately fully charged battery. I tried to borrow a USB Jig from a user in this post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1869203) but no-one was able to help. As the phone was my only phone (no landline) I was readying myself to pay the $60 that one of the other sites charged to JTag the unit.
Before I did that, I decided to take it in to Sprint, and told the technician I made a mess up. They didn't ask anything about what I did and took it to the back for about half an hour. They weren't able to do anything as the unit didn't switch on, but said that I could get a replacement for $50.
I did that and a few days later they swapped out the non-working unit for a working one. I was expecting to pay a whole lot more.
I learned the lesson the hard way: even if I search for "Sprint" the results aren't necessarily going to be for my unit. I should have read (and re-read!) the posts a whole lot more clearly about the other ROMs - they were not for the Sprint unit.
I hope my hard lesson will help others be a wee bit more cautious - even if you have been customizing a long time!
This is about the 100th post this month of people flashing roms for other carriers on a Sprint S3. A simple search in the Q&A would have probably alerted you to the facts.
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I *do* realize that I flashed the wrong ROM. The point of my post was to illuminate that it's not only noobies who get things wrong.
Even though I read what I thought was for Sprint, my presumption got in the way and I didn't realize until it was too late that it was not the ROM in the Sprint section of Http://www.xda-developers.com/ that I thought I was reading about.
I took responsibility for my mistake and paid the money to rectify my error.
I am hoping that my misfortune with be a cautionary tale for others to double (and triple) check.
Just because we've done things successfully many times before doesn't mean we're avert to the same errors as noobies.
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I *do* realize that I flashed the wrong ROM. The point of my post was to illuminate that it's not only noobies who get things wrong.
Even though I read what I thought was for Sprint, my presumption got in the way and I didn't realize until it was too late that it was not the ROM in the Sprint section of Http://www.xda-developers.com/ that I thought I was reading about.
I took responsibility for my mistake and paid the money to rectify my error.
I am hoping that my misfortune with be a cautionary tale for others to double (and triple) check.
Just because we've done things successfully many times before doesn't mean we're avert to the same errors as noobies.
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If you would've read more carefully you wouldn't have made that mistake... noob! Jk
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Feel bad but at the same time I dont. You should know a bit better to be sure that you can use that ROM/kernel/zip etc. If you doubt yourself ask in the thread or forum. We all don't know everything there is to rooting and flashing
http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb374/TexasEpic/ThePeoplesROM-KennyGlass123/daniel4653.png
Odexed Blue by Strong Steve + Ktoonz w/ Team Kernelizers tweaks
In the cnet article it had this in the "getting started section"
Just bear in mind that if your S3 handset is not version number I9300 -- and it almost certainly is if you bought it in the UK -- then bad things can happen. So it's worth quickly checking your phone's settings before proceeding.
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I have to give you credit Iconboy for taking responsibility and paying for a new phone. Even though you messed up you admitted it. A lot of people that have done the same thing have posted things like "can I throw my phone in a river" or "can I just tell sprint that the OTA broke my phone". Thanks for doing it right.
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I have to give you credit Iconboy for taking responsibility and paying for a new phone. Even though you messed up you admitted it. A lot of people that have done the same thing have posted things like "can I throw my phone in a river" or "can I just tell sprint that the OTA broke my phone". Thanks for doing it right.
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Yeah I agree. I don't know why people are bashing him. He maned up and payed for a replacement phone and now he is just letting other people know what can happen.
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I did the same thing with my S3 about a month ago, Was on a flashing frenzy and didn't read enough about the rom i was flashing. After the flash my phone wouldn't do anything at all, just a paperweight. Took it into sprint and paid for a new one. Mistake learned, its part of being human.
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Yeah I agree. I don't know why people are bashing him. He maned up and payed for a replacement phone and now he is just letting other people know what can happen.
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No one is bashing him, just having some fun at his expense, but you're right, thanks for doing the right thing op!
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Like others have said, props for owning your mistake. However, the "noob" label applies to you, whether you think so or not. There were so many signs you were walking down the wrong path (including an explicit warning on the very page) the very first being that you were on a .uk website. I'm not posting this about that though, I just don't seem to understand why so many people feel the need to venture away from xda to acquire ROMs, this site if full of great ROMs made by great devs, not sure what more people need to end up flashing things they find on international news sites. Yes, there are other established sites, but usually they overlap with this site. That is to say, if there's something awesome happening somewhere else, you'll hear about it here (with a few exceptions).
Whether I am classified as a "noob" or not ... I have flashed custom ROMs on four or five different Android phones over the years.
The Motorola Photon was one where I thought I had a paperweight (nope...not an int'l ROM that time - Ha! Ha!) but because of XDA, I was able to get it working again after many errors. Decent little phone that one.
My error, my expense, my fault on the SGS3. Thankfully I have a working unit and can put the old EVO in the drawer as a backup - it is sloooow!
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Whether I am classified as a "noob" or not ... I have flashed custom ROMs on four or five different Android phones over the years.
The Motorola Photon was one where I thought I had a paperweight (nope...not an int'l ROM that time - Ha! Ha!) but because of XDA, I was able to get it working again after many errors. Decent little phone that one.
My error, my expense, my fault on the SGS3. Thankfully I have a working unit and can put the old EVO in the drawer as a backup - it is sloooow!
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Glad you got it worked out. Its not easy admitting (and on the internet to say the least) that you had made a mistake even as a seasoned flasher. Its never easy to admit an error, at all
I agree with metalfan above and I applaud you, you made a mistake and you paid for it, lesson learned
Well... Don't re-read is for noobs. Sorry if that hurts you.
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IconBoy said:
Whether I am classified as a "noob" or not ... I have flashed custom ROMs on four or five different Android phones over the years.
The Motorola Photon was one where I thought I had a paperweight (nope...not an int'l ROM that time - Ha! Ha!) but because of XDA, I was able to get it working again after many errors. Decent little phone that one.
My error, my expense, my fault on the SGS3. Thankfully I have a working unit and can put the old EVO in the drawer as a backup - it is sloooow!
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You may not be a "noob" in the technical sense of that term, but as you already know, the mistake you made was an amateurish one. For one, you were on a .uk website, and second, the very article mentions that you have to be mindful of your model number and specifically mentions buying in the UK. There were at least 3 checkpoints in that article that should have prompted further scrutiny on your part. I do commend you for taking responsibility for your actions and for you PSA to be careful about what you flash, and I do understand how you got tripped up. This is probably the first Android phone that was released to multiple carriers worldwide. Also, what I would like to see from devs is a conspicuous message in the OP of their ROM about specifically which carrier/version their ROM is for. Often that is not mentioned.
So let me prose this question to everyone calling him a noob (including our devs) - why don't devs write their install scripts to read the current build.prop to check for the correct model before the wipe & install begins? If this is happening hundreds of times per month, a pretty small amount of scripting could probably stop this from happening 99% of the time.
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rocket321 said:
So let me prose this question to everyone calling him a noob (including our devs) - why don't devs write their install scripts to read the current build.prop to check for the correct model before the wipe & install begins? If this is happening hundreds of times per month, a pretty small amount of scripting could probably stop this from happening 99% of the time.
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Good point. Bad code leads to bad problems. And its actually a very simple line of code in the updater-script that would abort, but increasingly people are dropping that habit and changing to a no-check install
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assert(getprop("ro.product.device")=="DEVICE_NAME" && getprop("ro.product.board")=="DEVICE_NAME")
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Although I wouldn't term myself a pro at all, I am not a noob when it comes to rooting and installing other ROMs. I have rooted many of my Android phones over the years and have diligently read and re-read posts when it comes to rooting and installing ClockworkMod recovery and other ROMs.
Last week, I made a big boo-boo!
I searched for "Sprint SGS3 alternate ROMs" and found a CNet article (http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/mobile-phones/top-5-samsung-galaxy-s3-custom-roms-50009440/) listing the different ROMs. I downloaded a couple (Hawkish and Energy) and promptly tried to install them. I got some error message in CWM. I then rebooted after cleaning caches, dalvik etc.
My phone wouldn't start at all!!!
I tried all the keypresses to get things working but absolutely nothing. The unit wouldn't turn on even with a separately fully charged battery. I tried to borrow a USB Jig from a user in this post (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1869203) but no-one was able to help. As the phone was my only phone (no landline) I was readying myself to pay the $60 that one of the other sites charged to JTag the unit.
Before I did that, I decided to take it in to Sprint, and told the technician I made a mess up. They didn't ask anything about what I did and took it to the back for about half an hour. They weren't able to do anything as the unit didn't switch on, but said that I could get a replacement for $50.
I did that and a few days later they swapped out the non-working unit for a working one. I was expecting to pay a whole lot more.
I learned the lesson the hard way: even if I search for "Sprint" the results aren't necessarily going to be for my unit. I should have read (and re-read!) the posts a whole lot more clearly about the other ROMs - they were not for the Sprint unit.
I hope my hard lesson will help others be a wee bit more cautious - even if you have been customizing a long time!
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I'd say your a noob. Title is wrong. Lol.
.co.uk <----- not even us website.
Did you see "sprint" or d2spr any where? No.
Derp.
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So let me prose this question to everyone calling him a noob (including our devs) - why don't devs write their install scripts to read the current build.prop to check for the correct model before the wipe & install begins? If this is happening hundreds of times per month, a pretty small amount of scripting could probably stop this from happening 99% of the time.
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How about a counter point, if the noobs would read before flashing, it would stop this from happening 100% of the time! If you don't have time to read before trying to mod your device, you shouldn't be doing it in the first place...
Will always wonder why people find the right place just a second after they turn theirs phones into a fully functional brick.
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Food for thought. As a part of the "T-Mobile My Account" app is a device health (beta) page that will scan the phone for various settings. If you tap on either the "Battery state" or "Device performance" and look for a box that says "Show all test" being rooted is among the list. When I read over the various warranties and agreements, I was looking specifically for anything about root, rooting, rooted, "" access. The best I found only mentions that issues caused by 3rd party software are not covered.
Seeing this makes me wonder if T-Mobile as part of its "un-carrier" move may be opening up to the idea.
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I work for tmo, so far, no change in our stance on processing warranties for rooted devices
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I work for tmo, so far, no change in our stance on processing warranties for rooted devices
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This is why I don't understand people's hate towards Samsung's Knox when they trip it due to rooting and custom TOM's.
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Cause on an HTC or nexus device you can completely go back to stock and have no evidence of rooting. With Knox, you're screwed. There's no resetting it. I don't know how LG works, this is my first LG device
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I work for tmo, so far, no change in our stance on processing warranties for rooted devices
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Just out of curiosity, what is T-Mobile's stance? I'm very new to TMo. So new, I switched/ordered my phone on Tuesday and due to a "Systems Issue" I don't even believe my phone has been shipped yet.
CrucialBT said:
Just out of curiosity, what is T-Mobile's stance? I'm very new to TMo. So new, I switched/ordered my phone on Tuesday and due to a "Systems Issue" I don't even believe my phone has been shipped yet.
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Honestly, if you return to stock (completely) and then go in for warranty, you should be okay. The official stance is no, but I know that 99 times out of 100 you're not gonna have an issue. Unless it's blatantly obvious that you caused your issue by messing with your phone. If you ever need anything when dealing with Tmobile feel free to pm me on here. That goes for anyone who reads this.
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Returned my g2 yesterday, wiped it but left it stock rooted with twrp recovery. She didn't say anything about it.
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Returned my g2 yesterday, wiped it but left it stock rooted with twrp recovery. She didn't say anything about it.
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Yup, and things like this happen where reps are completely oblivious. It's not uncommon.
I only said what I did because I know quite a few managers from the bay area to Sacramento, and a good portion of them are into rooting phones and train their staff (not cause they want to screw you over, just to make sure that they retain their job) to look for it.
So yeah, you'll probably be fine if you don't unroot your phone, but an extra 10 minutes of work won't hurt you.
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I usually get my best results by going into the store and being a real jerk, swear at the counter people, call them names then tell them you rooted the phone and now there are some issues....
JK,,, dont do that.
If you are nice and act dumb they will help you.
Hmm, I don't even HAVE a store around here, I'd be dealing with whoever is at the other end of the shipping tag.
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Honestly, if you return to stock (completely) and then go in for warranty, you should be okay. The official stance is no, but I know that 99 times out of 100 you're not gonna have an issue. Unless it's blatantly obvious that you caused your issue by messing with your phone. If you ever need anything when dealing with Tmobile feel free to pm me on here. That goes for anyone who reads this.
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thats very nice of you to offer that:good:
I agree with your comments; I have rooted every phone I have had over the years with ATT/Sprint/TMO, and NEVER "restored to stock" ANY of the phones I turned in for upgrade/repair/etc, and never once had an issue with ANY carrier.
If you act like a jerk, and hassle the store personnel, you will always have a problem; if you are polite, professional, and dont try to blame someone else for your problem, 99% of the time, you wont have a problem turning in a rooted phone.
Treat people like YOU want to be treated, and you will always be taken care of; at least that's always been my experience..
I have always just unrooted before I went in. Some times I have watched them check the phone and worried if they would try to update it. That was the case with both my HTC Evo 4g and Samsung Galaxy S3 with Sprint. I was trying to avoid the hboot 1.5 and KNOX updates. Only issue I had was when my mms stopped working. Even unrooted the stock messenger wouldn't send them. I was asked if it was rooted and was hoping the unroot file worked. Ever time the phones have finished as I was parking in the lot so I never really had a chance to make sure it was all back to stock.
When I picked up the G3 and changed to T-Mobile I asked and was told unroot it. If no one knows it was rooted then you're good.
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yeah, its so easy to unroot a phone, and if they do a quick check to see if its rooted, and they dont see that it is, they never go any further..
wase4711 said:
yeah, its so easy to unroot a phone, and if they do a quick check to see if its rooted, and they dont see that it is, they never go any further..
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I have had to over the years exchange a few phones with t-mobile, been with them going on 8 years with 5 lines. I always unroot and set back to stock with that said tho, I had to exchange a note 3 for non working GPS and although I did set it back to stock I obviously couldn't reset the knox counter. So far, haven't heard anything about it and that was almost a month ago. While I have no official comment, I do believe t-mobile doesn't care so long as the issue is not related to anything you have done.
I want the g3, but am waiting for root. Just don't care for phones I can't restore to, uninstall unneeded apps etc.
i went on store at LG G3 launch and i showed my note 3 to swap with G3. via JUMP
my phone is rooted, i even teased the girl representative that i have the coolest ROM on it lol. she just smiled and check the note 3 physically. i even let her do a factory reset on the note 3. few mins later i have the black G3 on my possession
I'm not sure what the big deal is. If we can flash a stock ROM onto a phone I'm sure they can, probably easier than we can. It's the hardware condition that really matters.
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Treat people like YOU want to be treated, and you will always be taken care of; at least that's always been my experience..
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This is called The Golden Rule and XDA and the world in general would be a better place if it was practiced at every opportunity. ?