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[Q] Gingerbread for DHD?

hi,
Been looking all over the development forum looking for a custom rom gingerbread for DHD. No idea which one is good, any suggestions? thanks in advance.

Hi,
"Good" is subjective. Some prefer slim ROMs with minimal installed apps, performance tweaks, and stripped down services. Some prefer proven and tested builds for utmost stability, sacrificing some neat new features others have access to. Some prefer full-fat ROMs with nifty apps, enhanced UI appearance, and a fully enabled device with maximum usability, sacrificing responsiveness.
Which ROM you think is "good" is for you alone to decide. Try one, if you don't like it, try another. If you can flash one, you can flash them all. Give them a go.
HTH.

tadasu said:
hi,
Been looking all over the development forum looking for a custom rom gingerbread for DHD. No idea which one is good, any suggestions? thanks in advance.
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As of now theres only 2 viable versions to consider, either CM7 Nightlys from Cyanogen Team: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=917271
or the CM7 Nightlys Modified with minor tweaks: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=918639
Both are still in development so no support yet, flash at own risk

tadasu said:
hi,
Been looking all over the development forum looking for a custom rom gingerbread for DHD. No idea which one is good, any suggestions? thanks in advance.
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You could do worse than try the cm7 nightlies

DeathJester said:
Hi,
"Good" is subjective. Some prefer slim ROMs with minimal installed apps, performance tweaks, and stripped down services. Some prefer proven and tested builds for utmost stability, sacrificing some neat new features others have access to. Some prefer full-fat ROMs with nifty apps, enhanced UI appearance, and a fully enabled device with maximum usability, sacrificing responsiveness.
Which ROM you think is "good" is for you alone to decide. Try one, if you don't like it, try another. If you can flash one, you can flash them all. Give them a go.
HTH.
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a good rom for me is the one the will not crash and don't damage the phone by overclocking in summer time

[Q] Custom ROM vs Stock ROM - is it really that much faster?

I bought my GSII used, already rooted, with a custom ROM already loaded on it.
I have to ask - since I never used one with a 100% pure stock ROM - is it really THAT MUCH faster with a custom?
I am currently running Juggs 5.0 - but if I went back to 100% stock would I feel that much difference?

JWhipple said:
I bought my GSII used, already rooted, with a custom ROM already loaded on it.
I have to ask - since I never used one with a 100% pure stock ROM - is it really THAT MUCH faster with a custom?
I am currently running Juggs 5.0 - but if I went back to 100% stock would I feel that much difference?
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It's not really about speed. But with a custom ROM you definitely have more customizations possible. You can change the look of the interface, the notification toggles, colors etc. I have the i9100, which is another variant of the SGS2 and I've had ICS for a couple of months now, but it's not getting officially released until this month some time. So, it's not really about speed but rather about the freedom to do other things with it. Some people might cite benchmark tests, and scream that I'm wrong, but the hardware is what makes your phone fast...the software's not at all going to choke that out (whether stock or custom). As far as speed goes, you're probably not going to notice the difference.
Also, though you've got root access which enables you to install apps and do things you just can't do otherwise.
All that said, there are certain advantages to stock. It's often times more stable than something custom. There are ups and downs. If you feel the need to experiment, you can always flash back. Just read a lot before you get your feet wet (it is very possible to brick your device if you muck it up) and you'll be fine.

I don't think so. I'm going to get flamed plenty I'm sure but I don't see much improvement over how my phone performed out of the box. I think the battery life may even have been better before I started flashing stuff.

I should have stated in my original post - I am definitely not a n00b to Android or to flashing/rooting. I can understand the customization aspect, but honestly other than flashing, I have never had a real use for Root access.
I can flash something with a new custom interface or colors and always end up coming back to something that has the stock look about it... In this case, I've tried almost every available custom ROM and keep coming back to Juggs .
I ask about speed though because all the ROM cooks seem to try to use that as a selling point... "FAST!" "Butter smooth!" blah blah blah ...

JWhipple said:
I should have stated in my original post - I am definitely not a n00b to Android or to flashing/rooting. I can understand the customization aspect, but honestly other than flashing, I have never had a real use for Root access.
I can flash something with a new custom interface or colors and always end up coming back to something that has the stock look about it... In this case, I've tried almost every available custom ROM and keep coming back to Juggs .
I ask about speed though because all the ROM cooks seem to try to use that as a selling point... "FAST!" "Butter smooth!" blah blah blah ...
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After I posted, I looked at your tag, and assumed as much with 700+ posts, you've been around the XDA block.
Really? No need for root?! I'm a flashing junkie (well, okay, that's exaggerated. it comes and goes in spurts) TitaniumBackup is my friend. Also CWM is a gift.
Agreed, stock ICS is love. But I do also like certain tweaks, i.e. the %-battery indicator (and while we're on the subject, I've got a little Android logo with a % indicator for my battery...I wonder why Android devs don't include little things like that).
Yeah, your best bet is to try some out. But IMHO devs talk too much in that regard. I'll probably get flamed if any read this, but devs are kinda like used car salesmen in that regard. They've got a product that they want you to use, so they try to sell it. Can't say I blame 'em, really. But again IMO, most of it's hype.

I didn't think you were new to Android since your account is almost 4 years old so I'd assumed you were familiar with all the "benefits" of rooting. The phone is so nice out of the box I don't think any of the roms are any smoother or better on battery. I think Warfare is probably the best on battery and for me CM7 was easliy the worst. I didn't notice a change in data speed, 2d smoothness, 3d smoothness, battery cover smoothness... Nothing. The device is so nice out of the box and I don't use it for anything other than a phone, text messaging, web browsing, e-mail, Skype, the occasional slicing of fruit or a word or two with friends so I can't comment on all the added functionality all the "super-duper heavy users" of this device probably use on custom roms. The only reason mine is rooted is for an ad host file and the occasional tether.
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sean is here. said:
After I posted, I looked at your tag, and assumed as much with 700+ posts, you've been around the XDA block.
Really? No need for root?! I'm a flashing junkie (well, okay, that's exaggerated. it comes and goes in spurts) TitaniumBackup is my friend. Also CWM is a gift.
Agreed, stock ICS is love. But I do also like certain tweaks, i.e. the %-battery indicator (and while we're on the subject, I've got a little Android logo with a % indicator for my battery...I wonder why Android devs don't include little things like that).
Yeah, your best bet is to try some out. But IMHO devs talk too much in that regard. I'll probably get flamed if any read this, but devs are kinda like used car salesmen in that regard. They've got a product that they want you to use, so they try to sell it. Can't say I blame 'em, really. But again IMO, most of it's hype.
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When I had a Fascinate... I was a huge fan of overclocking and undervolting. The same when I had a Thunderbolt. It made everything smoother and the Thunderbolt especially needed help in the battery area. This device just works. No need for anything other than what it came with for me. Obviously that didn't stop me from flashing the development section... But hey, I have a problem.

Warfare is very good.but,no advantage so far.
For me,im back on stock.just works better for me (doesnt mean I wont have a flash attack).
Sent from my SGH-T989 using XDA App

JWhipple said:
I bought my GSII used, already rooted, with a custom ROM already loaded on it.
I have to ask - since I never used one with a 100% pure stock ROM - is it really THAT MUCH faster with a custom?
I am currently running Juggs 5.0 - but if I went back to 100% stock would I feel that much difference?
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the thing with our device is that it came sooo sick straight out of the box that you don't really need to improve it that much. However, custom ROMs/kernels generally make the ROMs smoother, but not many people notice the difference.
I actually notice that because of the kernels implemented with certain ROMs, our phone is able to RUN just as smooth at a lower clockspeed which saves us battery. Other than that, I don't think Custom ROMs are actually "SMOOTHER" or faster than the stock ROM because Samsung really did well on this phone.

sunlaw2 said:
Warfare is very good.but,no advantage so far.
For me,im back on stock.just works better for me (doesnt mean I wont have a flash attack).
Sent from my SGH-T989 using XDA App
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I'm going to look for a ROM that is close to stock as possible but rooted... try it for a week and if I can.live with the speed I'm going back to stock via Odin.
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JWhipple said:
I'm going to look for a ROM that is close to stock as possible but rooted... try it for a week and if I can.live with the speed I'm going back to stock via Odin.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using Tapatalk
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The main difference is the bloatware which really does make an impact on speed, memory consumption and overall smoothness.

Some rom cook faster, you should choose the rom cook by team have many vote on forum.
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Don't want to root. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DTgvLPOYLg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I was just going to start a similar thread actually. I have watched videos of the different ROM's that we can install on the T989 variant to get an idea of what's available and what I like. Currently SlickMOD ROM looks the smoothest with the best battery life.
Having said that, in the video that I saw, when quadrant was run on SlickMOD, while it was overclocked, the score was approx 2690. When I ran Quadrant on my Stock ROM (rooted Stock ROM without being overclocked either) I got a score of 3199. Also, after 16 hours of use I still usually have more than 50% battery life.
Other than the options for different themes and customizations and ROM control, are custom ROMs going to provide better performance and battery life than what I am already receiving with my Stock? I mean I really want to give the other ROM's a try, but the reason would be for speed and battery life and right now both are pretty good for me on Stock. Thoughts/Suggestions?

Karakoram2 said:
Don't want to root. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DTgvLPOYLg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Sent from my SGH-T989 using xda premium
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What the hell does this have to do with the discussion?

Chochiwpg said:
I was just going to start a similar thread actually. I have watched videos of the different ROM's that we can install on the T989 variant to get an idea of what's available and what I like. Currently SlickMOD ROM looks the smoothest with the best battery life.
Having said that, in the video that I saw, when quadrant was run on SlickMOD, while it was overclocked, the score was approx 2690. When I ran Quadrant on my Stock ROM (rooted Stock ROM without being overclocked either) I got a score of 3199. Also, after 16 hours of use I still usually have more than 50% battery life.
Other than the options for different themes and customizations and ROM control, are custom ROMs going to provide better performance and battery life than what I am already receiving with my Stock? I mean I really want to give the other ROM's a try, but the reason would be for speed and battery life and right now both are pretty good for me on Stock. Thoughts/Suggestions?
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Generally speaking (I don't own this device) stock ROMs will normally get better battery life. Custom ROMs can approach stock, in this regard, but I'd be way beyond surprised if a cook made a ROM that had better battery life than Google's team of Android developers.

Problem with SlickMOD is that the dev's T989 broke and he isn't getting another one - so - development has HALTED.

sean is here. said:
Generally speaking (I don't own this device) stock ROMs will normally get better battery life. Custom ROMs can approach stock, in this regard, but I'd be way beyond surprised if a cook made a ROM that had better battery life than Google's team of Android developers.
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Makes sense, just for fun I ran Quadrant again on my Stock Rooted ROM and got a 3358. Maybe I should reconsider switching to a different ROM for now. Stock is very stable with no real issues/concerns. thanks for the response.

Chochiwpg said:
Makes sense, just for fun I ran Quadrant again on my Stock Rooted ROM and got a 3358. Maybe I should reconsider switching to a different ROM for now. Stock is very stable with no real issues/concerns. thanks for the response.
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Which stock-rooted ROM are you running? Mr. X's ?

JWhipple said:
Which stock-rooted ROM are you running? Mr. X's ?
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It's the Stock ROM that came with my phone. I rooted the phone but haven't flashed any custom kernel's or custom ROMs on my phone. I also use Zeam Launcher as opposed to the TW Launcher by default. I have turned off animations, limited my homescreens to 3. I don't use too many widgets and I use an all black background. Also running Juice Defender to help with battery but I don't think that affects performance/speed.
Model Number = SGH-T898D
Android Version = 2.3.5
Baseband Version = T989DTLKJ3
Kernel Version = 2.6.35.11
Build Number = GINGERBREAD.TLKJ3
I don't know if that helps or answers your question. Hope that helps.

I'm willing to bet that the performance gains that are being seen on the Stock ROMs is due to the fact that they are ODEXed. By DeODEXing the ROMs can be customized to the cook's heart's content, but there is a mild performance hit taken.
Thoughts?

Setting a friend up, would like some opinions.

I am going to root and set up a friends phone most likely with aokp (I have used it on my note and it seems solid). Is this a strong choice? I am looking to give him back something with all the bells and whistles along with better performance/battery life. I guess that is somewhat redundant of me to say.
Also what kernels have you found to work well with your rom?
I also want it to be something that he does not need to maintain after I give it to him as it will likely be me updating for him until he gets comfortable with having more control of his device.

Smoothface said:
I also want it to be something that he does not need to maintain after I give it to him as it will likely be me updating for him until he gets comfortable with having more control of his device.
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Leave the device stock and give him a few hints for apps that will help him do what he wants to do.

martonikaj said:
Leave the device stock and give him a few hints for apps that will help him do what he wants to do.
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+1 for this. Stock is the best way to go (without root) if he doesn't actually know how to maintain a custom rom or know the security issues associated with rooting hour phone. If he decides in the future that he then wants more from his device, he can learn about custom roms and try flashing himself. Trust me this is the best option, I made this mistake a while ago with a friend of mine who wasn't a tech geek and all he did was complain about the issues associated with the custom rom (cm9) as he had no clue how to fix them and most of the time it was an issue with how the user operated.
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AOKP is the way to go for a custom ROM in my opinion. It has so many options over stock that just help ease the use and make so much more of the device.
There is no reason why he would need to keep updating custon Roms if you put something solid on there. It is not like when he runs stock he would update it all the time. He would be running the same stock Rom for a while so what would be the difference if he runs a custom Rom for while. Why would he need to go through every build as others are saying...
Build 33 was just released for AOKP. I would wait to see the bug list before loading something on his device that will be on there for a while. Your best bet would wait till the next milestone build comes out so all the bugs will be squashed and he won't have to worry update updating...
I have also found the stock 4.0.4 kernel to be the best so far. I have tried other kernels and unless you are into playing with voltages and overclocking stock is your best bet.

As a new gnex user I found that stock kernel and rom ate battery quickly.
Coming from a nexus s 4g aokp was my top choice. So I went with that and lean kernel.
I put min/Max @ 7something/920
Using interactive
Battery life increased significantly
Also speed and my phone is fully customized to my liking... just my personal experience and opinion
sent from my so icey GalaXxy Nexus

Aokp is the way to go. Also he doesn't need to constantly update the rom. Just flash the latest milestone and he can use it for the next 2 years really.

Custom Kernel for Stock

How many of you are running stock? Would you like a custom kernel with optimizations, governors, schedulers and overclocking/undervolting? Would anyone use it if I released one? If so, what governors and schedulers would you like to see?
Thanks!

Personally, I love running stock. I would definitely like to see a kernel that focuses on battery saving.

Please release the kernel. This phone needs some overclock

I'm going to wait until Nougat source is released to build a stock kernel since I was accepted into the Beta.

A custom kernel for Nougat would push me even closer to the already close edge that is my wallet.
This phone seriously looks attractive for the ~$160 asking price on Newegg/Amazon. Coming from a Nexus 5/Spare GS4, I'm used to really poor battery life and average performance.
I'm currently eyeing the Moto G4 and the Robin. The Robin is much more powerful, but doesn't have a replaceable battery and has a much smaller battery (technically the G4's battery isn't replaceable but it can be done fairly easily). There's also this business with Razer, which isn't too big of an issue as I normally stick with custom ROMs (and stock is getting quite a few updates in the future).
Both are in the high ~$160-200 range. Any input? If the Robin's battery is somehow replaceable that would be amazing, and I'd like an OEM supplier.

negusp said:
A custom kernel for Nougat would push me even closer to the already close edge that is my wallet.
This phone seriously looks attractive for the ~$160 asking price on Newegg/Amazon. Coming from a Nexus 5/Spare GS4, I'm used to really poor battery life and average performance.
I'm currently eyeing the Moto G4 and the Robin. The Robin is much more powerful, but doesn't have a replaceable battery and has a much smaller battery (technically the G4's battery isn't replaceable but it can be done fairly easily). There's also this business with Razer, which isn't too big of an issue as I normally stick with custom ROMs (and stock is getting quite a few updates in the future).
Both are in the high ~$160-200 range. Any input? If the Robin's battery is somehow replaceable that would be amazing, and I'd like an OEM supplier.
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It would also be amazing to see some voltage control to control the beast of an 808.

There will be a custom kernel available in the near future for AOSP/Omni on the Robin. It is currently being tested ? and so far it's showing quite a bit of promise.
Some features it'll include are efficient hotplugging, optimized CPU governors, a new I/O scheduler and much more.. Based on Electron Kernel for the Nexus 6p by @frap129

nexbit robin has volte support any one test ??????

variravitejareddy said:
nexbit robin has volte support any one test ??????
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I know for T-Mobile US yes but idk for where you are at.

Saythis said:
There will be a custom kernel available in the near future for AOSP/Omni on the Robin. It is currently being tested and so far it's showing quite a bit of promise.
Some features it'll include are efficient hotplugging, optimized CPU governors, a new I/O scheduler and much more.. Based on Electron Kernel for the Nexus 6p by @frap129
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If you need a tester, I would love to help.

Saythis said:
There will be a custom kernel available in the near future for AOSP/Omni on the Robin. It is currently being tested ? and so far it's showing quite a bit of promise.
Some features it'll include are efficient hotplugging, optimized CPU governors, a new I/O scheduler and much more.. Based on Electron Kernel for the Nexus 6p by @frap129
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Any news on the electron kernel?

Saythis said:
There will be a custom kernel available in the near future for AOSP/Omni on the Robin. It is currently being tested ? and so far it's showing quite a bit of promise.
Some features it'll include are efficient hotplugging, optimized CPU governors, a new I/O scheduler and much more.. Based on Electron Kernel for the Nexus 6p by @frap129
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Updates?

xBane_ said:
Updates?
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Seems to be dead

Nope not dead. You can get weekly builds from here https://github.com/frap129/ether-weeklies

sykomaniac said:
Nope not dead. You can get weekly builds from here https://github.com/frap129/ether-weeklies
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Is the kernel only compatible with Omni?

crian said:
Is the kernel only compatible with Omni?
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The latest weekly build doesn't boot with Omni 7.1.2, so I'm not sure.

I believe the kernel is meant for Nextbit OS 7.0, not for custom roms. Not sure though.
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bmccoy11 said:
The latest weekly build doesn't boot with Omni 7.1.2, so I'm not sure.
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So dirty flashing back to the latest Omni 7.1.1 build and then flashing the kernel should allow get the phone to boot?

Working on trying to get it to boot don't worry guys

sykomaniac said:
Working on trying to get it to boot don't worry guys
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I tried going back to the latest 7.1.1 build and couldn't get it to boot, so I gave up. Can you give updates in the future?

Good, stable ROM

I'm looking for a nice stable ROM compatible with jolla-kernel or having blue_active as a CPU governor. I'm currently using Paranoid Android, I used to use Lineage OS but the bugs that occurred were very big deals

Pure Nexus. That's the one I use. Oreo is still under development, but the 7.1.2 PN worked great with Jolla.

Hey, I used many roms for the N5X and the only one that is still smooth and with good battery life is Pure Nexus as my colleague mentions above ^.
Anyways, tomorrow is @argraur releasing new version of his PixelROM which I hope will be great
Regards

davidhasnexus said:
Hey, I used many roms for the N5X and the only one that is still smooth and with good battery life is Pure Nexus as my colleague mentions above ^.
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I've also tested many ROMs before I settled on PN. I used RR, DU, PR, and more than a few kernels. PN + ElementalX is my favorite (I know I need to update my sig, oh well).

crazyates said:
I've also tested many ROMs before I settled on PN. I used RR, DU, PR, and more than a few kernels. PN + ElementalX is my favorite (I know I need to update my sig, oh well).
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I got really in love with RR, it has so many features and its smooth also, althought DU is/are quite similar with poor performance. PN + ElementalX worked for me the best, however i'll try out the new GooglePixel ROM based on Pixel 2 features :victory: :victory:

davidhasnexus said:
I got really in love with RR, it has so many features and its smooth also, althought DU is/are quite similar with poor performance. PN + ElementalX worked for me the best, however i'll try out the new GooglePixel ROM based on Pixel 2 features :victory: :victory:
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As of right now PN uses the July images, but my bootloader is on the August update. Are there any other stable ROMs?

davidhasnexus said:
Hey, I used many roms for the N5X and the only one that is still smooth and with good battery life is Pure Nexus as my colleague mentions above ^.
Anyways, tomorrow is @argraur releasing new version of his PixelROM which I hope will be great
Regards
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Pure Nexus does look promising, but my problem is I have the bootloader for the August update. I guess I could have specified, but I would also like the ROM to be on the small side too so I have a lot of storage left. I'm a big tech person, so I'd also like to be able to root, and I'm worried about a lot of features. Stock Nougat had enough features for me

BearOfXDA said:
Pure Nexus does look promising, but my problem is I have the bootloader for the August update. I guess I could have specified, but I would also like the ROM to be on the small side too so I have a lot of storage left. I'm a big tech person, so I'd also like to be able to root, and I'm worried about a lot of features. Stock Nougat had enough features for me
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You can flash new bootloader but it's not necessary, it will work well even with older one . The PN rom is about 4gb as usual after installation and you can also root it afterwards... I don't understand your concerns probably

crazyates said:
I've also tested many ROMs before I settled on PN. I used RR, DU, PR, and more than a few kernels. PN + ElementalX is my favorite (I know I need to update my sig, oh well).
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After flashing EX kernel, what app should I use to control it? I don't want to pay for a kernel manager. Is Kernel Adiutor good enough?

BearOfXDA said:
After flashing EX kernel, what app should I use to control it? I don't want to pay for a kernel manager. Is Kernel Adiutor good enough?
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Kernel Auditor is one of the more popular ones, although I haven't used it in a long time since I switched to EXKM. Especially if you're using the Elementalx kernel, it's fantastic. Even if you're not, it still does a great job.
It's only one of the 3 apps I've ever bought, and I use it on all my phones/devices. I figured a $400 phone can justify a $4 app, amiright?