Guys i was wondering about android p update for oneplus 5t, since 2 major android updates are usual norm for the companies and from oreo its an option to support project treble if the phone is being updated to oreo and mandatory if the phone ships with oreo, now, according to this post https://www.phonearena.com/news/Goo...s-In-Android-9.0-Make-It-More-Closed_id101816 its being said that android p will mandate the support of project treble that means the phone should support project treble regardless of being updated to android p or shipping with the same.
Now the problem arise when oneplus couldn't support project treble with oreo update for oneplus 5t due to partitioning issues. If this is the scenario then theoretically oneplus 5t won't be able to taste android p officially (since project treble is mandatory) and will it end up being the case of oneplus 2 wherein it couldn't taste android nougat ?
Correct me if i'm wrong since i am on oneplus one and now, looking to upgrade and this time seems fit as oreo's project treble would revolutionize the custom rom's department also i simply couldn't deviate from oneplus phones, hence thinking about waiting for the successor of oneplus 5t as it would definitely ship with oreo hence project treble goodness or oneplus 5t could be updated to android p hence having support for project treble.
Oneplus one still holds good for me till date and no need to upgrade if it wasn't for project treble (and 64 bit architecture also).
So what are your thoughts on this ?
I think you're getting way ahead of yourself. Yes it's true that 1+ is not supporting project treble for the foreseeable future but there are two important things to understand.
First, having an OEM support project Treble does not imply that device will get faster updates. manufacturers will still control the compiling and rollout of updates and they will always add their own tweaks and skins which will take time. All PT will do is taking care of the Hardware Abstraction Layer.
Secondly, even though OnePlus phone updates track record isn't impeccable, they're upgrading the 3/3t and 5/5t to Oreo in a fairly timely matter so it's very unlikely that they will abandon two phones that would be around one year old without the newest update.
In any case, all upcoming phones from OnePlus will have to support Treble so the issue will be short lived.
I think that if they want to ALL phones can be re-partitioned for treble, it would however involve a complete loss of all information on the phone and effort on the part of the companies.
For most users this would be unacceptable as it would involve backing up ALL data , settings and contacts on the phone. It would be time intensive and require effort on the OEM's so these companies just go the easy route and say it can't be done...
Nice way of making a butt-load of cash off the next version of phone released too...
Just one company to get the ball rolling would definitely hurt all others if they did this though...
Oos does not even have oreo... And the open beta they call oreo its nougat..
don't expect it lol
Seriously, we don't even have Oreo yet and you are worried about P?
An official release of Android P for a Oneplus device, is over a year away, minimum... Most of us won't even have this phone by then, having upgraded to a newer one.
oreo itself is a dream.
I was just ensuring that the device i go for will be future proof. I don't feel the need to upgrade a phone until major advancement in the field, i still don't fell the urge to upgrade until it was for project treble which seems promising, alongside backed by 64 bit architecture, display ratio etc etc.
So maybe a safe side would be to wait for the oneplus 5t successor.
arjun said:
I was just ensuring that the device i go for will be future proof. I don't feel the need to upgrade a phone until major advancement in the field, i still don't fell the urge to upgrade until it was for project treble which seems promising, alongside backed by 64 bit architecture, display ratio etc etc.
So maybe a safe side would be to wait for the oneplus 5t successor.
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I'm in your boat. Despite what OnePlus 5t owners say, treble is a big deal. Manufacturers have already come out and said that it's going to make it much easier. That's why all phones starting with 8.0 will have dual partitions. If you can wait, then you should wait for 8.0+ released devices, or phones that currently implement dual partitions. Essential phones are already prepared for Treble, but they've got some QC issues to solve with their overall hardware, so I'd stay away from them.
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I'm in your boat. Despite what OnePlus 5t owners say, treble is a big deal. Manufacturers have already come out and said that it's going to make it much easier. That's why all phones starting with 8.0 will have dual partitions. If you can wait, then you should wait for 8.0+ released devices, or phones that currently implement dual partitions. Essential phones are already prepared for Treble, but they've got some QC issues to solve with their overall hardware, so I'd stay away from them.
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yeah yeah yeah man, you perfectly get me, even i'm skeptical about essential phone despite project treble support, even asus zenfone 4's oreo update brings project treble but not in the way treble's to be implemented.
But the thing bugs me that will 1+5/5T be updated to android p or not since android p will surely bring treble support, because treble + 6 years for LTS for kernels = long live device and probably no need to upgrade phones that frequently.
I guess i'll wait for 1+6 then.
thanks for sharing same mindset bro ! :good:
OnePlus 6 will surely be out b4 Android P, shoot probably even the 6T, and the OP6 and beyond will surely support project treble. Patience is the key.
Who cares about project treble and OxygenOS.. we will always have LineageOS. Chill...
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alexiuss said:
Who cares about project treble and OxygenOS.. we will always have LineageOS. Chill...
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project treble means better lineage os support with minimal to no hacks (shimming) to get things working.
Tell me that doesn't sound good.
Airwolf79 said:
OnePlus 6 will surely be out b4 Android P, shoot probably even the 6T, and the OP6 and beyond will surely support project treble. Patience is the key.
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OP6 is supposed to be released end of March approximately. I would bet dollars to donuts, if they got their act together, it will have Oreo/Treble. Otherwise, they are falling behind the premier makers that will support treble, like the Pixel 2 does now. See what Samsung does with the S9 in the very near future, not sure if it will have treble. If so, it kind of forces OPs hand to have Treble on it's next flagship. Just a thought anyway.
AS far as 5T....well, Oreo is probably good enough for the life of the phone IMO if they get it legit working.
fuarkgl3 said:
Oos does not even have oreo... And the open beta they call oreo its nougat..
don't expect it lol
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techlogik said:
OP6 is supposed to be released end of March approximately. I would bet dollars to donuts, if they got their act together, it will have Oreo/Treble. Otherwise, they are falling behind the premier makers that will support treble, like the Pixel 2 does now. See what Samsung does with the S9 in the very near future, not sure if it will have treble. If so, it kind of forces OPs hand to have Treble on it's next flagship. Just a thought anyway.
AS far as 5T....well, Oreo is probably good enough for the life of the phone IMO if they get it legit working.
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OP6 got to have treble if they launch it with oreo, else google won't certify their software.
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Seriously, we don't even have Oreo yet and you are worried about P?
An official release of Android P for a Oneplus device, is over a year away, minimum... Most of us won't even have this phone by then, having upgraded to a newer one.
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Turns out for me, I don't even have the OP5T anymore because it can't do VoLTE on AT&T.
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Turns out for me, I don't even have the OP5T anymore because it can't do VoLTE on AT&T.
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there are rumors about the fact that oneplus will partner with major US carriers for their next flagship, either way OP6 is gonna be a bomb.
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there are rumors about the fact that oneplus will partner with major US carriers for their next flagship, either way OP6 is gonna be a bomb.
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Yeah, that would be awesome. I loved my OP3 and enjoyed the OP5T, but I have to have VoLTE. That is a deal breaker, as I routinely have to tether my work laptop to the phone, so if I am on a conf call with the phone, I lose LTE and it drops down to H+ which is like 3G and slow. Also no HD calling, no WiFi calling.
My Essential doesn't have Wifi Calling either, but it does support VoLTE in AT&T, so I had to return the OP5T and go back to that.
I have a 5 years old mid-range smartphone Samsung Galaxy s4 mini(19192) few days back i flashed lineage os 15.1 on it, and lineage os 15.1 is based on Android 8.1 with January 5,2k18 security patch and on the other hand i have this Xperia z5 premium which is 2.5 years old but still no oreo roms are available for this...so if a mid-range old device can get oreo update and have tons of custom roms then why the developers aren't making rom for Xperia z5 premium?
sandipdhar said:
I have a 5 years old mid-range smartphone Samsung Galaxy s4 mini(19192) few days back i flashed lineage os 15.1 on it, and lineage os 15.1 is based on Android 8.1 with January 5,2k18 security patch and on the other hand i have this Xperia z5 premium which is 2.5 years old but still no oreo roms are available for this...so if a mid-range old device can get oreo update and have tons of custom roms then why the developers aren't making rom for Xperia z5 premium?
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Finally a question that I can help answer!!
There are several reasons why development for the Sony Z5 Premium is very very slow.
Samsung devices are FAR more popular on the market then Sony https://www.statista.com/statistics/271496/global-market-share-held-by-smartphone-vendors-since-4th-quarter-2009/. So it would make sense that since Samsung is more popular then there would be more development for that brand in general.
Limited development for Sony devices is partly because Sony isn't very helpful in releasing information needed to help our volunteer developers. Custom ROMs need the access to the device's kernel. A kernel is a piece of proprietary software developed by the phones manufacture that allows the operating system to talk to the hardware. Sony is not very helpful in releasing details about their device's kernels. This means our volunteer developers have to work 1000x harder to get limited functionality from the device. Samsung on the other hand is a little more generous with releasing their kernels for public development.
As an aspiring programmer, I respect that it takes a lot of SKILL and TIME to develop ROMs, root mechanisms, and any other work that is needed to bring a new feature to a cell phone. This is done by passionate volunteers who have lives besides making contributions to this community. If you're that interested and passionate in helping these developers then I recommend that you get actively involved in the development community.
I hope this helps. It's frustrating but this is the reality. Even more frustrating is that I just learned that my Z5P has a permanently locked bootloader. I won't be able to play with any of these custom ROMs
Hi,
Does honor 7x has project treble support?
Heard 9 lite supports project treble since it came with oreo.
Isn't it ironic 9 lite is less expensive and got oreo by default with project treble support?
Little disappointed with software here after shelling 16k inr.
Thanks.
https://www.xda-developers.com/honor-7x-android-oreo-beta-emui-8-0-project-treble/
Thanks. I went through the article. Hope we get it. Coming from one plus 3t, one plus killed updates for it. Hence switched over to honor.
Everyone seemed to be pretty excited about the 7x/Mate SE to have treble support. We have oreo and confirmed treble support. But what now? It seems like it doesn't really matter. Not that many roms being ported over. So whats up? Is treble support overhyped?
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Everyone seemed to be pretty excited about the 7x/Mate SE to have treble support. We have oreo and confirmed treble support. But what now? It seems like it doesn't really matter. Not that many roms being ported over. So whats up? Is treble support overhyped?
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I think Huawei has updated a grand total of 31 phones across all the variants.
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Everyone seemed to be pretty excited about the 7x/Mate SE to have treble support. We have oreo and confirmed treble support. But what now? It seems like it doesn't really matter. Not that many roms being ported over. So whats up? Is treble support overhyped?
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IMO.. Treble is more "Vendor-Friendly" than "User-Friendly" .
There is so much to dissect when it comes to the 7x.. why has Honor not released Nougat Firmware? this device was announced October of 17' and released December of 17'.. yet nothing.
Why did they *really* pull the bootloader-unlock page..
I'm sure, you'll see the Carbon, Linage, RR ROM's officially ported over eventually.. But you will not see the good old fashion "Developer Support" with the 7x. I mean not just ports but Kernel development.. and to be honest,
That's where you speed increases, better battery life, user-adjustable governors and features come from.. more so than any port is going to afford you.
That's where the 7x and it's Kirin Engine fall short.
Take a look at Moto G5 Plus thread ( I had one of those but @ 5.2 inches I did not like the screen size ) and just look at the development the Snapdragon 625 has gotten.. Even the Snapdragon 636 is already seeing a lot of love.. and seems like the perfect Price / Performance Engine for 2018.
The 7x is a good device.. just not a popular one.
Hi friends,
Six years ago, we created OxygenOS based on the idea that fast and smooth software is fundamental for a good smartphone experience. Since then, OxygenOS has proven to be one of the best Android operating systems available on the global market.
We started as a small brand, but since last year when our product portfolio started expanding much more quickly, we’ve come to realize that we need significantly more resources and a larger technology platform to make sure each product can receive stable and timely software updates, while delivering a world-class user experience.
After a lot of evaluation and discussion, we’ve come up with a solid plan to best leverage our shared resources with OPPO. In order to improve efficiency and standardize the software experience across our portfolio, we’re working on integrating the codebase of OxygenOS and ColorOS.
This is a change that you will likely not even notice since it’s happening behind the scenes. We now have a larger and even more capable team of developers, more advanced R&D resources, and a more streamlined development process all coming together to improve the OxygenOS experience.
OxygenOS remains the OS for global OnePlus users as always, but now built on a more stable and stronger platform. This will apply to new devices in the future, while for existing devices that are still within the maintenance schedule, it will occur via an OTA update along with Android 12.
Most importantly, with this change, we are happy to announce an improved software maintenance schedule for the lifecycle of our open market smartphones:
Flagship product line (including T / R): The OnePlus 8 series and newer devices will receive 3 major Android updates and 4 years of security updates.
Nord / Nord CE: The first OnePlus Nord and newer Nord / Nord CE devices will receive 2 major Android updates and 3 years of security updates.
Nord N series: Starting from N10 and N100, all N series devices will receive 1 major Android update and 3 years of security updates.
(Note: Flagship devices released prior to the OnePlus 8 series will follow the previous schedule of 2 major Android updates and 3 years of security updates. Software update plans for carrier versions will follow the requirements of our carrier partners.)
We believe that OxygenOS will continue to offer the best Android experience possible for you. Thanks for your continued feedback and support.
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Let's hope Oxygen forms the larger part since Color OS is NOT popular at all.
Also means that we will get 3 yrs of OS updates and 4 yrs of security updates.
Merging the 2 might just be good for custom development since there will be more devs working on a standard codebase.
how to go to lastest color os from 11.2.8.8 ? must wipe data ?
brmbjn said:
how to go to lastest color os from 11.2.8.8 ? must wipe data ?
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Why ask that here?
djsubterrain said:
Why ask that here?
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because
Oxygen OS and Color OS merging !
brmbjn said:
because
Oxygen OS and Color OS merging !
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Wow you only read title
djsubterrain said:
Let's hope Oxygen forms the larger part since Color OS is NOT popular at all.
Also means that we will get 3 yrs of OS updates and 4 yrs of security updates.
Merging the 2 might just be good for custom development since there will be more devs working on a standard codebase.
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Well the language seems to imply that oxygen will be the base and color os will just be merging in backend stuff, which as long as it doesnt start adding proprietary chinese bloat doesnt seem too bad to me. The bigger news in my mind is their commitment to 3 years of OS and 4 years of security updates. When they announced the merge with oppo everyone thought "oh so they are just going to stop caring and not support their phones as well" but it seems they are keeping their word on it enabling a better update schedule with more resources.
Wait ! What ??? You got Oxygen os 11.2.8.8 ?
null0seven said:
Wait ! What ??? You got Oxygen os 11.2.8.8 ?
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Not yet.
I think next update is coloros
I used Oxygen os for few weeks but returned to coloros, i can feel battery is better
I can't wait maybe we get better AnTuTu scores then like colorOS who scores 800k and oxygenOS 750k
It's official! The next version of Oxygen OS will be replaced with color os! All oneplus phones will now run color OS from August 2021! RIP Oxygen OS!
I keep hearing that color os is more battery friendly. I am curious how it is going to work out.
Color OS = China
Oxygen = world wide
You can NOT replace google store for the rest of the world ! Not that easy ! They Loose a Big peace of the market !
null0seven said:
Color OS = China
Oxygen = world wide
You can NOT replace google store for the rest of the world ! Not that easy ! They Loose a Big peace of the market !
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*Piece.
PKkeys said:
It's official! The next version of Oxygen OS will be replaced with color os! All oneplus phones will now run color OS from August 2021! RIP Oxygen OS!
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Eh, no.
Huigie said:
Eh, no.
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I don't know where he found that info but it's not true easy. They will continue oxygen and with the Android 12 new look will be introduced and for sure Oxygen Os will be different than Color Os to recognize both brands.
Some good perspective on this topic:
The OxygenOS-ColorOS merger was inevitable, and I'm looking forward to it
OxygenOS is merging with ColorOS, and that has me excited. There's a lot of potential for great things to happen, if it all goes well!
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