I have a 5 years old mid-range smartphone Samsung Galaxy s4 mini(19192) few days back i flashed lineage os 15.1 on it, and lineage os 15.1 is based on Android 8.1 with January 5,2k18 security patch and on the other hand i have this Xperia z5 premium which is 2.5 years old but still no oreo roms are available for this...so if a mid-range old device can get oreo update and have tons of custom roms then why the developers aren't making rom for Xperia z5 premium?
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I have a 5 years old mid-range smartphone Samsung Galaxy s4 mini(19192) few days back i flashed lineage os 15.1 on it, and lineage os 15.1 is based on Android 8.1 with January 5,2k18 security patch and on the other hand i have this Xperia z5 premium which is 2.5 years old but still no oreo roms are available for this...so if a mid-range old device can get oreo update and have tons of custom roms then why the developers aren't making rom for Xperia z5 premium?
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Finally a question that I can help answer!!
There are several reasons why development for the Sony Z5 Premium is very very slow.
Samsung devices are FAR more popular on the market then Sony https://www.statista.com/statistics/271496/global-market-share-held-by-smartphone-vendors-since-4th-quarter-2009/. So it would make sense that since Samsung is more popular then there would be more development for that brand in general.
Limited development for Sony devices is partly because Sony isn't very helpful in releasing information needed to help our volunteer developers. Custom ROMs need the access to the device's kernel. A kernel is a piece of proprietary software developed by the phones manufacture that allows the operating system to talk to the hardware. Sony is not very helpful in releasing details about their device's kernels. This means our volunteer developers have to work 1000x harder to get limited functionality from the device. Samsung on the other hand is a little more generous with releasing their kernels for public development.
As an aspiring programmer, I respect that it takes a lot of SKILL and TIME to develop ROMs, root mechanisms, and any other work that is needed to bring a new feature to a cell phone. This is done by passionate volunteers who have lives besides making contributions to this community. If you're that interested and passionate in helping these developers then I recommend that you get actively involved in the development community.
I hope this helps. It's frustrating but this is the reality. Even more frustrating is that I just learned that my Z5P has a permanently locked bootloader. I won't be able to play with any of these custom ROMs
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The Lineage OS is just getting out, and since A (2016) series phones really need a stock android based ROM, it would be very nice to see some developers working for this beautiful device as well. Given how popular this phone is, i think it's a shame there's no stock android ROM for it. We beg you developers, TouchWiz is really annoying!
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SM-A510F/M
I've been using pixel experience for a couple of months but i think lineage os is a little snappier so i decided to switch back but I can't find the official build for it anymore, the device is nowhere to be found in the supported device list. Is this the end?!!
Yes. Maybe they will move to redmi note 7/7 pro.
They sure dropped this phone fast, its not even a year old. And besides the RN4 is still supported but not the 5? WTF
And theres still no global RN7 version either so why the rush.
One reason could be that many developers of this phone got an upgrade to flagship level phones like Pocophone F1. I'm assuming the official Lineage OS developer was one of them, which may have affected the update intervals and features with time. Maybe that's why the Lineage OS team chose not to keep this phone on their list. (Unless if a developer invests their skills and time on this).
Also, Lineage OS also didn't stand out that much in this device's forum because of Custom ROMs like Pixel Experience, HAVOC, AOSIP, and OEM ROMs like Oxygen OS and Samsung Experience. These developers have contributed so much that Lineage OS was not really needed that much. (Please Thank these developers on the forums and donate, if you can. They really have worked hard on this)
I could be wrong but it must be related to either of these things.
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Does anyone has the last official build? is not on the official page anymore
Is there any expert programmer who can make ported stock rom pie from samsung a720s official firmware,for a520f and a720f?
The hardware of the a720s is the same as the a720f, it's just a matter of who has the time, knowledge and willto make. Because we all want 9 on our phones. .
Alchajmer said:
Is there any expert programmer who can make ported stock rom pie from samsung a720s official firmware,for a520f and a720f?
The hardware of the a720s is the same as the a720f, it's just a matter of who has the time, knowledge and willto make. Because we all want 9 on our phones. .
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Hadesrom is made from an a8 base with a720s fixes in it and is basically identical.
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Hadesrom is made from an a8 base with a720s fixes in it and is basically identical.
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A8 and a720s are not the same.A8 has Exynos 7885 and a720s Exynos 7880.A8 has 4gb ram, while a720s has 3gb ram.A8 has Mali-G71 GPU while a720s carries Mali-T830MP3.Hardware a720s is identical to a720f.A8 is not nearly as similar in hardware, which is one of the reasons why the Hades rom doesn't work completely without bugs, as much as the programmer tried. After a few days, it slows down. That's why the programmer gave up further updates and closed the thread. I ask, do any of the programmers know how to port rom from a720s for a520f and a720f?
Relax, eventually we will get something
Guys really, you are just so dumb. Having developers around like Corsi or Option58 is a dream for a big part of the XDA community. Imagine that no one is developing for Ax 2017, with what you eventually end? Stock oreo ROM and only it. No Lineage, no Pie, nothing.
Just wanted to remind you that everything related to AOSP is possible thanks to RaymanFX, and you pissed him off a long time ago. I'm ashamed about that part of the community, OP, think a while, just think. Are you sure that you have more knowledge than people making such things? I bet that you ever can't compile LineageOS from sources with a tutorial.
I sorry so much for Corsicanu, he spent an enormous amount of time to deliver you butter smooth stock roms, make the stable pie even possible, release professional kernel and the only thing he received for that is complaining and calling him stupid.
I'm less and less frequent here, thank you to all active or inactive developers for keeping this phone alive, I wish the best for you and remember, you are doing such a great job and there are still people who appreciate it.
Regards.
@Alchajmer
1. we have an android 9 port already
2. if you don't like them (I guess you do else you wouldn't open this thread) then feel free to port your own android 9 rom. if you don't know how then search on xda. there a plenty of guides about porting roms.
3 finally read this post please. I hope this will change your opinion about porting A720S to our devices.
And no the progammer did not close his thread because of the A8 port is "slowing down" the performance, he closed it because a lot of people requested (and even keep requesting) an A720s pie based port in his thread (check last posts) like you did here.
Did corsicanu confirmed that a720s rom cant be ported to a520/a720f or you guys are just guessing?
Let the man work when he has time thats it...
Hades rom works fantastic on my a520f. For all his honor. But after a few days everything slows down. Why? I don't know. It's like he's running out of memory. For example, the calculator needs a second or two. So I asked if there was a minimum chance of porting rom to the a520 / 720f from the A720s. I'm not a programmer, but I've been using custom roms for a long time to know if the phones match the hardware, there's a chance for porting. I'm not saying that it has to be tomorrow, but when the developer has time
Theres Any ported roms for j7 pro. pie OS like aosp,lineage,Rr etc? Because i think this less bug,more space, and more stable, more fast.
No, no have any Custom Rom support Exynos 7870, so you can't find any Custom Rom like AEX, RR
Build Custom Rom again with OneUI kernel very hard, almost no have anyone can do it
Only Project Treble can be using RR, AEX or any custom rom with J7 Pro
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No, no have any Custom Rom support Exynos 7870, so you can't find any Custom Rom like AEX, RR
Build Custom Rom again with OneUI kernel very hard, almost no have anyone can do it
Only Project Treble can be using RR, AEX or any custom rom with J7 Pro
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About u says almost no have anyone can do it
Nothing is impossible and the future is changing ,When they invented Android, did you know that someone would invent it? The field of technology is an open world
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Because every update to phones and other computers increases spying and increases spyware protection ,With my work experience in Cyber-Security
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Without restrictions and without spying
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Hello. Can I hope for some custom roms for this device later? I really enjoy custom roms but I don't like buy xiaomi phones again and found this phone in really good price! example redmi note 12 pro has same proccesor but it's more expensive and miui has some limitations among features.
Can I hope for custom rom or AT LEAST is samsung sharing kernel source of it's phones and is it possible to make one myself later after learning? I have some plans to learn android developement
smohroot said:
Hello. Can I hope for some custom roms for this device later? I really enjoy custom roms but I don't like buy xiaomi phones again and found this phone in really good price! example redmi note 12 pro has same proccesor but it's more expensive and miui has some limitations among features.
Can I hope for custom rom or AT LEAST is samsung sharing kernel source of it's phones and is it possible to make one myself later after learning? I have some plans to learn android developement
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You can learn to develop your own ROM.
Everything shared here on XDA is essentially a hobby. Developers work for free, and often focus most of their time and effort on devices they already have. The best way to get something ported to your particular device is to learn to do it yourself.